Over 20yrs ago, I was elk hunting in SW Colo, chasing a bull elk, I ended up 10miles from my truck in a place called groundhog in bad snow storm. I stumbled upon a camp with a group of hunters from nw Arkansas. They were kind enough to give me a ride (5mph) back to my truck. They were out of brandy because they gave me the last slug. Next day I returned with two quarts of chirstian brandy. Seems like yesterday, fine folks.
I think what Clay is getting at is, the older you get the more you appreciate the spiritual aspects of being in the outdoors. I think that is the case for many aspects of life. The older we get, the more we look for deeper meaning in the things we do.
Haven’t listened/read to the book yet. However without saying I think Clay means that Boone is the star of long hunting because the little literature you can find is mostly about him. The long hunters I’m sure were a large group of men doing it but nobody was focused on except Boone.
I’m sure it’s much like today, a lot of much quieter much more badass dudes than those that write books and go on podcasts to talk about their own exploits
If you think about what they were selling the hides for and that was buckskin pants that’ll tell you where they preferred to place a lead ball and that’s definitely head shots. Those holes in the hide would’ve been devaluing the hide.
Great podcast, guys! We are all making our judgment of yesterday's resource harvesters with the selfish self-righteousness of hindsight. What will our great grandchildren say 100 years from now when they talk about how we today squandered all the natural gas and petroleum? My Great Grandad and his three oldest boys, one of which was my Grandad, worked in the pineries of northern Michigan and helped cut off the last large tract of White pine known as the Deward Tract. It was 80,000+ acres of property owned by one man, David E. Ward. I have classic old family photos of raw boned stout men with huge sleighs laden with huge diameter pine logs pulled on iced roads by teams of strong horses. I am proud of those men and my families part in what became an historic era........and yet I have shown these photos to people that looked at them and cussed those shown as greedy S.O.B.'s that stripped the land without thinking of the future generations. I guarantee you 99% of these men were glad to be there, mainly because the work would make a few more mortgage payments happen! Had we lived in that era, we'd likely do as they did and think nothing of it. Thanks for this video, it was very interesting to this old Roscommon County retired woodsman.
In reference to the topic about giving incentives on killing deer in high populated areas. Has there been a discussion about attempting to relocate some?
It’s a good question. The first thought that comes to mind, is to ask; where is there an area that has had a historic population of Whitetail deer, that now no longer has it, and needs animals relocated there to reestablish a population?
Quick fact factcheck on the ranking of the un-damed stretch of the Mississippi River, while 1000 miles is impressive, the Congo travels nearly 2900 miles un-damed.
49:25 I have been moving towards more "adventure hunting" for whitetails. Most western big game hunting opportunities are expensive and either take forever to draw or are mediocre. You can add the same sorts of adventure to whitetail hunts pretty easily and have more fun than our normal day hunting. 1:12:00 land managed for one aminal is generally being mismanaged. The focus on whitetails is just as bad for the resource as timber mgmt. or cattle production when viewed across the country. If we are only looking at loblolly in Clays part of the world he has a point. Very few hunters are doing a good job of managing the overall ecology of their properties.
I think. If you are talking about eilthical hunting. As a gun hunter. Back in the day of Boone. And in our time. If you're not taking a head shot. You are either. Not confident in your marksmanship. Or you are a horn hunter. Do not waste the ribs or the hide. Unless you are shooting for the larger part of a kill zone. Because you just want to play the odds. Seriously. The world now days. If you can't bragg about the horns. Somehow you don't qualify. It's about using as much as you can. Not bragging about what you done. Just my two cents. Bow hunting is a total different world.
Over 20yrs ago, I was elk hunting in SW Colo, chasing a bull elk, I ended up 10miles from my truck in a place called groundhog in bad snow storm. I stumbled upon a camp with a group of hunters from nw Arkansas. They were kind enough to give me a ride (5mph) back to my truck. They were out of brandy because they gave me the last slug. Next day I returned with two quarts of chirstian brandy. Seems like yesterday, fine folks.
Do recall their names? Sounds like my family who used to go Elk hunting around Gunnison.
I think what Clay is getting at is, the older you get the more you appreciate the spiritual aspects of being in the outdoors. I think that is the case for many aspects of life. The older we get, the more we look for deeper meaning in the things we do.
They main reason that the wild life was wiped out was by the government trying to starve the native Americans
Clays dog in the background of the door like “yo man it’s cold as hell I peed 20 minutes ago lemme in”.
Haven’t listened/read to the book yet. However without saying I think Clay means that Boone is the star of long hunting because the little literature you can find is mostly about him. The long hunters I’m sure were a large group of men doing it but nobody was focused on except Boone.
I’m sure it’s much like today, a lot of much quieter much more badass dudes than those that write books and go on podcasts to talk about their own exploits
If you think about what they were selling the hides for and that was buckskin pants that’ll tell you where they preferred to place a lead ball and that’s definitely head shots. Those holes in the hide would’ve been devaluing the hide.
They were doing body shots
Great podcast, guys! We are all making our judgment of yesterday's resource harvesters with the selfish self-righteousness of hindsight. What will our great grandchildren say 100 years from now when they talk about how we today squandered all the natural gas and petroleum? My Great Grandad and his three oldest boys, one of which was my Grandad, worked in the pineries of northern Michigan and helped cut off the last large tract of White pine known as the Deward Tract. It was 80,000+ acres of property owned by one man, David E. Ward. I have classic old family photos of raw boned stout men with huge sleighs laden with huge diameter pine logs pulled on iced roads by teams of strong horses. I am proud of those men and my families part in what became an historic era........and yet I have shown these photos to people that looked at them and cussed those shown as greedy S.O.B.'s that stripped the land without thinking of the future generations. I guarantee you 99% of these men were glad to be there, mainly because the work would make a few more mortgage payments happen! Had we lived in that era, we'd likely do as they did and think nothing of it. Thanks for this video, it was very interesting to this old Roscommon County retired woodsman.
In reference to the topic about giving incentives on killing deer in high populated areas. Has there been a discussion about attempting to relocate some?
It’s a good question. The first thought that comes to mind, is to ask; where is there an area that has had a historic population of Whitetail deer, that now no longer has it, and needs animals relocated there to reestablish a population?
Quick fact factcheck on the ranking of the un-damed stretch of the Mississippi River, while 1000 miles is impressive, the Congo travels nearly 2900 miles un-damed.
Great podcast, am ready to make some longer trips this year
As a deer hunter and descendant of William Patrick Vaughn ( longhunter and friend of Daniel Boone) i can say this is very interesting.
I did not know this show was live! How cool!!!
49:25 I have been moving towards more "adventure hunting" for whitetails. Most western big game hunting opportunities are expensive and either take forever to draw or are mediocre. You can add the same sorts of adventure to whitetail hunts pretty easily and have more fun than our normal day hunting.
1:12:00 land managed for one aminal is generally being mismanaged. The focus on whitetails is just as bad for the resource as timber mgmt. or cattle production when viewed across the country. If we are only looking at loblolly in Clays part of the world he has a point. Very few hunters are doing a good job of managing the overall ecology of their properties.
1:00:00 what if we tied sales to tags? An example you can sell 2 tagged deer through a licensed processor.
I don't see why not...
Great book. Get it!
Squire Boone Jr. founded a settlement in Shelbyville Ky where I live!
Also known as “Painted Stone Station”
I was trying to capture the reading recommendations... it would be cool to have a reading list
I get a lot of good reading recommendations while listening to bear grease, and meat eater podcast.
Daniel Boone to modern bow hunters, we invented guns for a reason lol
I think. If you are talking about eilthical hunting. As a gun hunter. Back in the day of Boone. And in our time. If you're not taking a head shot. You are either. Not confident in your marksmanship. Or you are a horn hunter. Do not waste the ribs or the hide. Unless you are shooting for the larger part of a kill zone. Because you just want to play the odds. Seriously. The world now days. If you can't bragg about the horns. Somehow you don't qualify. It's about using as much as you can. Not bragging about what you done. Just my two cents. Bow hunting is a total different world.
Those men were cut from different cloth. 🇺🇸
i hope clays mules are in the barn