Warframe: Archguns Need Help
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watched this video while waiting for my arch gun to recharge
watch it again and it'll almost be ready
@@AziSlays mine hasn't recharged yet
@@AziSlays still waiting
Archguns need three changes:
One: Infinite punch through
Two: Make them pierce through all defenses, including armor, shields, and Eximus overguard
Three: Ignore most or all damage attenuation
Because when you are shooting at mooks with guns designed to take down bloody spaceships, that's the bare minimum
You're goddamn right
certain guns don't fit that tho, considering larkspur and all 3 of the necramech arch guns
Mmm, I like it, but the explosives shouldn't punch through.
Give them minibomblets like zarr and/or massive aoes.
Infinite punch through is actually a cool idea.
That would be nasty, and probably feel like heavy weapons. DE check this comment out.
Futa JumpScare
A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one
spooky transwoman boooo
I agree, get rid of the jumpscare.
@@Benzinilinguine what are you agreeing with?
@maxinea.sakaki4151 the auto translate for "futa" turns it "into get rid of"
How I would buff the archguns:
- Buff the crit mods, they're shit
- Galvanized Dual Rounds and Galvanized Modified Munitions need to exist and do what the equivalents for the primaries and secondaries do
- Let us put primary weapon arcanes on them
- Either reduce the timer of them being able to be resummoned or make the archgun ammo pickups more common so it recharges the timer more frequently
- Remove the stagger on some of them, it's stupid
Basic dual rounds could use a buff, too. 60% multi-shot is a joke.
Reduce/remove the cool down, or give us the option to use heavy weapons in the primary slot
Or make them use normal mods instead of archgun mods
@@alongfortheride1016it’s about to get primed sadly doubt it :(
@@RossKyle95oh boy I cant wait to waste endo on a mod for overall shitty weapons 😊
@@bnashtay2278 tbf it’s quite the upgrade but we really should have galv mods for them at this point / arcane use
DE’s “Always move forward, never look back” game design philosophy really messes up a LOT more than they realize and it takes a vast majority of the community crying out for them to actually look back and change things
And even then “changing things” is a monkey’s paw deal since DE has had a history of making everything else worse to compensate for a handful of things being bad
That philosophy can work... But the issue is they really don't look back.
I dunno if they need a dedicated balancing department or what, but the cracks have become trenches. And the trenches will become chasms if they don't have some major rebalancing soon.
DE be like "Archguns shouldn't be OP." My sibling of Tau, it has a 5 minute cool down.
And gated behind rank 5 fortuna, before they make it easier to earn.
And you gotta grind that bounty to get the gravimag
Rebecca adds new Arcanes for everything but Archguns in every fucking update, but hey at least my Imperator has innate punch-through now
I'm hoping that arch guns will soon get more much needed love. I absolutely LOVE some of their sound design and enjoy firing them dakkas but the damage just doesn't justify it
The last few seconds🤨
"Oh look horsecock" (-_-)
*vine boom*
Let him cook
Warframe and porn addiction seem to be synonymous. No idea why.
@@marny3559...have you looked at most of the Warframes?
the Lato is allowed to have 2 bajillion damage while a literal quad barreled AA gun can barely do orange crits.
They gotta continue the railjack update if they wanna make use of archguns again.
And i mean, The Flying Battle part.
They need to have a rework on railjack in general. Its still fun overall and rewarding but it needs more time in the oven
@throwdown1776 especially with the ui glitches...... >.>
It's funny how Railjack missions against corpus get all these cool transmissions from the enemy captain ordering their crew around and taunting you through the battle as their capital ship actually fights you with volleys of weaponry, while missions against grineer just have their ship... there. Silent, even when captained by your lich. Not shooting anything, other than an occasional ramsled. Shows how half-assed the entire Railjack mission mode still is.
I was here when you would hear ''Fires!'' all the time, but it's been so long I don't know anymore what ''The Flying Battle'' is referring to. Could you remind me?
@@Maverick2736 tbh the corpus commanders are super problematic gameplay wise, see warframe can only do one 'video message' like that at a time, so depending on what is happening, its very likely the messages will lag behind in game events, so you will get torpedo/ramsled warnings, *after* they happen.
I summon big ass gun, I want big ass damage. Make the ammo scarce for all I care, I want these guns to FUCK.
Yea, rn only arquebec gave this feeling.
I like the idea of them being this big, restricted, no extra ammo thing that you pull out for a burst of big DPS... The only issue is that they don't OFFER big DPS, so it all falls apart.
@@ababil2408 Honestly, regular Archguns should fuck about half as hard as the Arquebex before they warrant having that damned cooldown.
just make them primary weapons if you install anti grav modules at this point, them being only summonable with gear items is really bad.
that or let us deploy necramechs more.
Honestly it'd be cool if they were stupidly powerful but replaced both primary and secondary weapons.
@@sneedfeedandseed2410 yuk no. We only have 1 good necramach so zero variety.
@@johngaynor4363 that would be a cool idea in general. If a warframe only has 2 weapons, both of them get 2X damage, meanwhile if they only have a primary or a secondary or just a melee weapon, they get 3x damage. Sure, melee is gonna be meta but how long has it not been meta
@@rickykuijpers3179I would be perfectly fine with a narmer rachnoid with a vidar carcinox as an available necramech
I'd like a giant MIGHTY SEER as an archgun. Dude at the end needs the MIGHTY SEER in his life
i've said it before and ill say it again , just add two zeros on the base damage of every archgun and you're good
Lato jumpscare holy damn
I went into the Jordas Golem boss fight with an unmodded Imperator. Wasted 20 mins before abandoning mission
Heh? You can just kill him with odonata's 3
And the fact you have to max out standing at fortuna to even unlock archguns on foot..
just build a necromech and you can use the archwing gun and have a shitty slow moving tank thats also useless
allegedly that is being looked at in the next mainline update coming in March, but we'll see if there's actual improvement or not
Yup like PLEASE REBECCA SCOTT IS GONE, CAN WE HAVE SOME MORE FUN PLEASE
FOR WE'RE ALLL ONNE
AND THE WORKS BEGUN
FOR PABLOOOOO
Thank you for allowing me to meet my daily chuckle requirement. Now i will not be taken in my sleep
As a person who was just leveling a Howie Mandonel versus level 30 grinner, I was like “wait, why can’t this barely kill an eximus? I have it fully built and everything what the fuck is going on???” I now can remember when I was MR8, struggling with sortie missions. These weapons just aren’t caught up with the times. It also sucks in disruption; please do not make the same mistake I did.
Also, I never really understood futa. May someone please enlighten me to why it’s so good? I’m a huge yuri fan, so maybe it might take a lot more to educate me or not, I don’t know. I’m going to frap to some Yareli x Valkyr mating press porn that I made up in my head because I can’t draw while I wait.
Girls with big Shlongers, not Femboys, girls with Shlongers.
Somebody did the math for it and it's less gay than straight stuff because now you have 2 girls but one of them is still a guy in the lower bits so you still get the regular action be possible.
@@Jayare175 I-I never said it was gay 😅
Idk it's lesbians with extra steps. An evolution, of it if you will
It’s gay there’s a dick present, like it if you want to but it’s gay. Can’t convince me it’s not gay…
in my honest opinion, the only buff archguns need is having their damage scale with enemy level by a small percentage something, no other weapon can do and allows them to become the heavy weapons they're meant to be, and that way they also become more useful un archwing missions
is it an artificial buff? yes, but it'll be a huge boost without making them too overpowered
It's a gun designed to combat space ships do not be afraid of power my tenno , claim what is ours
Only time I ever feel incentivized to use archguns was when I slap the damn things on a Necramech and rampage through Railjack missions with them, and even then I only ever pull them out because the Voidrig's 4 can't blow up Nullifier bubbles. Those things BADLY need arcanes and mods before they are even considered an option.
I regret not clicking off the video when the outro rolled in. I was dealt 2d6 psychic damage.
Also, Mausolon on Zephyr is actually really fun if you also have a Wisp in the team.
futa is goated
ok BUT HE SPEAKING TRUTH at the end there
Even back in the day archguns were never great, they were okay. But these days they are a button press to make yourself temporarily debuffed in damage. Even Arcane Tanker has a baffling timer and it's not much better defense wise than Arcane Guardian which is on 99% of the time. Thematically Hildryn and Qorvex are supposed to use their arcguns but why would anyone do that in their current miserable state.
I occasionally think about that. How Tanker exists but realistically the actual activation and usage of the arcane is super janky from a gameplay/mechanical sense. It would be cool if there was some mechanic that would make it where you're easily going in and out of archgun usage to trigger it, or just something, but alas.
@@PERSONAfan01 It's also made clunkier by the mentioned cooldown timer archguns have. You activate the archgun, the tanker lasts for a minute, but then at worst scenario you have a 4-5 minute downtime before you can have it online again. And it's only 300 armor more than guardian, which is nothing for armor (few % difference). So the overall effectiveness of tanker is just bad value. It's not good.
Arcane Tanker should be always on when you have the archgun in your hands.
And when you unequip tje archgun THEN it has the timer.
@@vacuiaeruleum4252 Or no timer at all. After all you are already committing to an archgun with downtime and certain restrictions, and compared to guardian it's only 300 armor difference to beginwith.
@@Jenkkimie new arcane tanker: just look at the cool deployment animation and you get permanent armor increase for the rest of the mission
I'd rather archwing missions get good before archguns do. Give us archwing survival and arenas or something
I was happy to make the Larkspur eat people alive. But that was only happening because i delete everyone's defenses with Hildryn and coat them in Viral and Heat. Avenger helps too. Damage otherwise is like a reshuffled Nukor with worse mods.
I recognize this is an exception however.
VALKYR MENTIONED
Someday DE will remember she exists, i just need to wait a few more years...
we really need the 12 slot loadout ( like the necromech ) everything , lets see that build variety when we run out of mod power
i like the idea but that would be some serious power creep and all the new builds would just be requiring like 7 forma and it would just become tedious to feel like you finished a weapon build. sure you could just not go that far but i could say the same about building as is, like an incarnon weapon dosent need a full build to shed everything the game has to offer but you want a full build on all your weapons anyways.
can u honestly tell he that u don't over forma your favorite weapons? u sound like a fellow vet and vets are guilt of doing that . look at your main weapon , i bet it has like 5-8 points to spare on it at most , so 1-2 mod power creep , but possibilities ok running different builds . i really like the idea of using lower ranked mods on my best loved stuff. @@spaz_taz4910
archmelee's need some emotional support. Hespar is larger than Kaszas.
it'd be interesting if we could have arch melee's for nechramechs, as meme-able the fists would be.
necramechs using fists could THEORETICALLY look badass if they made them do something like just charging slow, heavy-hitting, and shockwave-causing punches instead of straight up boxing with em. we need one punch necramechs
Yeah we really need these things buffed. Btw sorry to hear about what you went through last year man, hope you’re doing better now ❤
Archguns need to have regular mod access on top of a considerable damage buff to make them viable
Or, remove the timer and make them play how they do when a necramech uses them/how they play in space with infinite ammo.
Futa x Futa is the best kind tho.
Is that XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X music?!?!??!? NO WAY I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUU ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
the only functional archguns beyond lvl 100 without a riven are the mausolon and the morgha, explicity because of their alt fires.
Oh? Whats so good about their alt fire?
@@zeeb2190 I can only speak for the mausolon here, it's supposed to be BIG nuclear damage for the mausolons alt fire, but it needs to charge off of kills. I have one shot a lvl 300 acalyte(I don't think I spelled that right) with the mausolon before, but I was also using a mirage with 525% strength, If remember right, my eclipse was over 1000% & each clone had a higher base damage & crit chance then me.
but then you could also use a weapon with way less setup, the mausolon can do somethings, but it needs alot of help to do most.
Would be cool to see them improve those weapons. I think it would be cool if they made all arch weapons damage like status and critical hits fall under a damage category such as heavy damage. All large robotic enemies like the grineer domas, the large corpus robots including profit taker and large ships take reduced damage from all sources of damage except heavy damage from archguns. This would give more relevance to archgun heavy weapons and justify archguns having a cool down.
i need to hear the rest, let the man cook
no no you just have to learn to like the horse
loved the ending segment
hate i was at work😂
Remenber when they said you would need to play without a second gun to use as a main weapon
Love the Xenoblade x sound in the background. one of my all time favorite games!
I think on foot arch melee should be tied to that devil mode they talked about.
All archguns need voidrig Jesus damage
I even asked Pablo about this in person at Tennocon 2023, addressing how there are galvanized mods and arcanes as well for other weapons! This buff was indeed something but it wasn't enough :(, Pablo even said there really isn't any big plans to fix archguns either .......
I want the archwing scythe to become a twohanded scythe for the frames. Or at least let me use different melees on my beloved bonewidow
We need a new two handed scythe stance so bad I hate the current one
I'm cool with the newest one, but it's more gun than badass scythe. So it doesn't scratch that itch
really called me out at the end there
Oh boy I can't wait to use my 0.5 dispo mausolon riven!
Hey Sabuttcheeks, have you noticed that the Citrine Antitoxin is piss yellow? Does this mean that it's a bottled form of Citrine's piss?
Another issue is that in order to use them outside of archwing and necramech you have to go through the fortuna syndicate grind to unlock another syndicate grind to use them
I need context for that last clip. He just straight up went into that conversation like it was nothing😅
been using prisma dual decurion on protea with her armor shred augment and it feels ok but its an awful lot of setup and ammo upkeep for, on paper, supposed to be a big and bulky power weapon
its fine on infested missions, even SP infested but thats about it. i want to enjoy my massive dual machine guns like its a real beast of a weapon tho
Anpassungsfähigkeit is key
People say archguns need galvanized mods and arcanes and ammo pick-ups, but i disagree. DE whants archguns to be weapons you deploy into battle to wipe out a massive crowd of enemies in seconds (funny how even secondaries do a better job at that) so id say intergrate galvanized aptitude into archguns without having to kill enemies and have thir damage increase the longer gun stays up. The gun runs on ammo and on a timer. Collecting ammo boxes give back ammo but do not extend the timer
1:52 is so real ❤
the most usefull thing about archguns is the tanker arcane
Question DE's game design again as usual
A potential bandaid for archguns: MORE MODS. We dont have that many, and there isnt much variety in builds for archguns. Arcanes would be nice too, to give people a reason to use certain archguns. Sure, rivens are nice, but that's really about all we DO have.
Do you have a vod channel for the streams?
Sabuuchi is the penguinz0 of Warframe dont ask me to explain that
Thought of a concept a while back where archguns are buffed by your melee counter; when equipped, your melee counter is frozen and your archgun damaged is multipled by your melee count (×2-12). Keep the archgun utility timer, but it is up to the player to keep the melee counter active after the gun is stowed.
You could have some fun mods/arcanes like 'Each archgun kill adds to the melee counter' allowing the archgun to self-buff while making archwing melee more powerful too
Arcanes! For archguns and archwings!
Ya know you got the jocat guide to monster hunter vibe
Archguns should be op as fk. Arent they limited by ammo and timer? They should feel like Devil trigger in DMC. Limited time op weapon.
Archgun were supposed to be that moment of power and yet normal ground weapon are still more powerfull than those space battle weapon. It would need a drastic damage buff to actually feel the moment of power.
#MakeArchgunsGoodAgainWaitNoThatsNotRightTheyWereNeverGoodToBeginWith
To add to the list, The lack of quick melee to slam back down to the ground, youll be daintly falling and wasting time with every bullet jump
I totally forgot we got melee when in our archwing
Lmfao I remember that stream at the end 😭😭
Zakti has been buffed
I hope whenever the syndicate rework comes they will do something about archweapons parts
outro song?
I still have yet to get the Archgun Multishot mod. Because for some reason, there are 2 sources and both are a PAIN to loot. At this point I've given up getting it.
bro what is the futa jumpscare at the end?? hello??
Here me out. Back then during the golden age of the Orokin, they were a spacefaring civilization. One of the reasons for their success in space travel/exploration, they had an advanced space fleet. Let's say DE somehow adds that or something similar to the lore of warframe, we can get 2 potential warframes.
1. An archgun qarframe with exalted archgun.
2. A sentinal warframe with an exalted sentinal.
Maybe the archgun warframe was someone important to the lore and apparently was the turret gunner or known for his/her skills with a turret and the sentinal warframe maybe could be based on the captain or a high ranking person of the fleet . The sentinal maybe helped the high ranking person in his daily routines and conquest of space and make the theme and skills around strategy and tactics and demanding respect. The sentinal warframe could be like a utility/crowd control/support frame. A mix between vauban and kora perhaps?
The archgun warframe could have an op exalted archgun but with the downsides of using an archgun, which is already the default archgun experience. This warframe could be some kinda damage/crowd control frame. Maybe a mix between Mesa and Yarelli?
Post post notes:
Maybe the archguns passive could be the ability to use archguns anywhere at anytime.
exalted necramech
hulkbuster
0:17 I agree entirely.
Archguns imo need like 2 augment mods each + 2x their current damge at the least, more mods woukd be cool but id also love some spice with them
Thanks Sab, the comments on these videos make me regret learning to read 👍
Archguns need an arcane to get extra damage or something similar to the galvanized shot and condition overload. Wheter it is an arcane o making new versions of existing mods exactly like thay did with the galvanized mods
Im just waiting till i have a reason to go after the knux again
Laughs in kuva grattler.
Big gun go brrrr
Maybe. Fun AF to just BRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTT with the minigun you apparently ripped out of an ancient A-10.
That ending clip needs some context.
Before even watching: We need to invest more into Archguns, we need to stop and summon them in mission, and they've got limited ammo with few to no ways to replenish it while it's out. If it isn't AT LEAST as good as my Secondary, there's an issue... And no Archgun meets that bar. If it wasn't for all the extra we need to do to even get to use them, this'd be... Fine, if not GOOD, but it's just ridiculous as is.
After watching: Yup. I want to like them, the idea of summoning a gun from FUCKING SPACE and just holding a goddamn scifi equivalent of a chain gun like some super steroided Rambo is AWESOME, but the reality is about as good as goddam Sol Gate. Visually, audibly, they feel great to use, punchy and impactful and... Then you see the damage and wonder why you bothered in the first place.
If they really don't want to give us the mods and arcanes that make Primaries and Secondaries like they are, then we honestly need a MUCH larger damage buff than just 2x. Even then, that'd still leave a good chunk of Archguns in the dust, but it'd be better than it is now.
Also kinda funny that we both focused on them not even matching Secondaries, much less Primaries. XD
I really love the arch guns. They are so cool and the whole let me summon my arch gun after the hard grind before it. But then. Zero damage. And yeah yeah you can make some with it but let us be honest they suck badly. They should be by far the most op weapons. With the draw backs given. But ist is more like this. I sacrifice Mobility, ammo, and damage output for well nothing really.
not to mention almost all of the archguns at the moment are all bugged with volt shield have a weird hitbox around enemies kinda hard to show it without a video😅
Incarnon Archguns 👌
I use Sevagoth and Dagath with Mausolon all the time. It deal enough damage after debuffs.
Just wish we could get one or two mod slot/ galvanized mod/ Arcane.
Any tihng that reward those who put so much of effort to build for a BFG power moment.
i want to see what DE constitutes as a archgun because come on, THE DUAL DECURIONS AIN'T A ARCHGUN, we have foot weapons that are bigger than those two slices of toast shaped guns
Best Part is that all the pre Gravimag ArchGuns(except for ImpyV, my beloved) are so comically ass, they are effectively unusable beyond level 50.
you're the only good warframe creator other than WarframeGuy
Trib?
He's boring and unfunny
Yeah, I dont even use an Archgun unless I have a Riven for it. ArchGuns need Arcanes, more Primed Mods and Galvanized Mods. When my secondary does more then ths heavy flakk cannon I call ftom the sky, there is a problem.
The Cortege is fine
Simple archgun fix: Recategorize them to primary weapons.
If you are a player that doesnt have the gun arcanes yet, they are a strong tool while getting to the endgame stuff
I dont want my fav warframes to be reworked. Every time they touched my at the time main I dropped the frame almost entirely.
Like Limbo, Vauban or Wukong. Only one they got right as far as Im concerned is Hydroid
This is something everyone can agree on.
Pretty much, I wanna summon my big fuck off weapon that does tons of damage. Instead we have giant nerf guns that barely scratch the enemies balls.
How’s the forma situation having you?