After two years of bloody war and grand strategies from our top of notch experts, they've come to realize that Russia is a huge place with lots of resources. Well, I be damned.
Those with an understanding of history knew full well how this was going to play out. Russia if fighting this war World War 2 style, and they will win regardless of how many casualties it costs them.
@@randyraudi7725 Go out more and talk to people. I live in Europe and nothing about what you are stating is true. Unless you analyze the reality through youtube. Seriously, go out and talk to your fellow human beings.
They are not even tactically schooled. They see the world in context of previous news articles. If the EU once announced 1 million artillery shells and the actual number produced is lower, then everything is doom and gloom and Ukraine can’t possibly win. Same with this useless Taurus debate. Scholz said "nein" many months ago, but they can’t stop talking about it as if it decided about victory or defeat. Everybody knew Leopard 2 can’t be a "game changer" in an artillery war, but one picture of a destroyed Western tank and Russia is unstoppable!
So you still think Russia is losing? Sorry to bust your bubble but without West support, Ukraine will lose and collapse. It's a shame Ukraine is beautiful country but Russia has to spoil it.
These experrts are all full of shlt. Russia is a superpower. They haven't even use their top notch super weapons. If russia wants to turn kyev to rubble that will be a easy task for them. Stop lying to world.
DW 2022: Russia has exhausted their entire supply of artillery and soldiers DW 2024: Russia is cutting through the UA, and going to make it all the way to Poland !
Nope, sorry but Russia can't. Here's why. The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done: Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel. Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
@@ninemoonplanet You don't understand, Ukraine's real problem is the soldiers who are running out, not just the ammunition. A nation that is winning certainly does not need to desperately recruit 500,000 new soldiers after having already sent women, old people and semi-invalids to the front.
@@eddastrohmayer251why? They will never have z better chance to escape Russia's influence and join the west. They know this, so they won't give up. If they give up, they will have no future. Who wants to be a poor slave in a mafia state when they could be like poland or Finland in 25 years.
2022: Ukraine is Winning the War, they repelled Russia Attack in Kiev! 2023: Ukraine needs all the support, Russia's Stock reverse is severely depleted, They are out of Tanks, Guns, missiles 2024: Ukraine winning the war by loosing more territory that are not of strategic importance!
Nobody is panicking because it's done already. Germany is trying to move from an almost pacifistic country after WWII to a military powerhouse.... I am sure that in 5 to 10 years every body is complaining again that Germany is too dominant as a military power in Europe.
You lost me , when the "expert " stated 60 thousand dead russian soldiers in Avdeevka . I thought Avdeevka was a rout , the ukrainian forces run away , leaving behind wounded and rear guard soldiers , being shelled on the way out . How can during such a situation Russians have lost 60 thousand soldiers ? You people say anything to get your contractor's fees from DW and goodness knows who else .
@@klausschumacher7126what was the name of that blogger? What was his source? Why do Russian casulty numbers in western media differ so much from BBC funded media zona?
Russia knows what they are doing? They are basically using a tactic that is soon 100 years old. The offensive they had at the start of the war showed them trying to fight a modern war, we all know how that went. If Russia had met someone that know how to use the sky and can establish air superiority, they would be crushed. The way they are fighting is so outdated its almost embarrassing.
> Russia knows what she is doing ah really? I remember Russia started a war trying occupy Kiev with police only. This war is not about Russia, its about (missing) west support for Ukraine
Everything Ukraine has needed to repell the Russian aggression has been supplied either way late or in smaller than adequate amounts. This strategy is not effective.
The ATCM's I thought were settled last fall but none have been sent. Same story with the German Taurus missiles. The F-16 discussion has gone on for so long I can't remember when it began.
When local Ukraine- Russia war began 2 yrs. ago. Chinese said: USA started war because: 1.destroy Russia from war. 2.destroy Europe economys from high energys price. 3.destroy EURO to unrival USdollar. USA has to prolong war as long as possible by send weapons +money to Ukraine using as battle field (Viet.2). Chinese said it up to Europe politicians know USA's tricks +how smart to solve problems.
Could anyone explain the horrendous strategy's? I'm an average joe but the stuff I hear drives me mad! surely incompetence can't be the leading cause, I'd rather a dodgy plot at least there's something to it however bad that sounds I'd rather that over what seems to be straight up stupidity
Ever heard of the relationship between Artillery and casualties? If so, there is no way more Russians would have died in Avdivvka than Ukrainians. Any neutral military expert will confirm that Artillery is responsible for 80% of casualties. Ukraine lacks shells, Russia has abundant. There is of course the defensive advantage of 3 to 1 casualties that Ukraine has. But in Avdivvka the surplus of Russian soldiers undoes this. Russia also has air supremacy. DW, try to get neutral experts, for some realistic assessments.
The side that does the attacking almost always has more casualties. If you defend, you just have to dug in and few soldiers can take down a large number. But for sure both sides suffered heavy casualties.
The challenge is if you take the total number of RU soldiers and the claimed casualties it means that RU by now should have run out of personnel. I think giving the world the truth helps
Why, the strategy of the West worked perfectly? The West already knew in 2008, when the idea of bringing Ukraine and Georgia into the western alliance was being pushed the first time, that Russia would most likely go to war over it. Georgia jumped the gun and got pounded to bits, but Ukraine managed to drag Russia into an 8-year long frozen conflict culminating in a 2 year-long hot war that cost Russia an incredible amount of people and military matarial, took a huge toll on its economy and allowed the West to demonize and isolate Russia from those nations in the West that at least tried to get along with them. Now Russia is so exhausted they won't be a problem when the US focuses on China. That Ukraine gets thrown to the wolves in that process was part of the plan from the beginning. Or have you forgotten how the US treated the Afghans, and the Kurds, and the Iraqis, and dozens of "allies" before that?
The refocus on destroyed Crimean ships to divert discussion on avdivka feels like coping. I mean even Russia knows that their airforce and Navy are incomparably subpar to NATO. The best they can do is maybe slow them down in an actual fight. Russian ships hit with NATO weapons with NATO provided intelligence and targeting information are pale in comparison with what is happening in the front and honestly feels more like a PR attempt than anything else. Russia is a land power. That is the reason for the enormous amount of artillery and armor. That is why Ukraine will never win without direct NATO intervention.
Russian air force subpar with NATO, 🤣🤣🤣 You can't be serious right. Russian pilots have been fighting combat missions every single day for the last 2 years in contested air space covered with layers of air defense. NATO pilots have absolutely no experience in fighting against integrated air defenses the likes Russia has. Russian pilots have found and mastered the barriers and limitations of their aircraft and themselves. They are battle hardened fighters with hours sod combat hours under their belt. Their ground maintenance crews are well oiled machines. Most of NATO pilots have never shot a bullet in anger. Their bases and maintenance crews don't know what is to experience being bombed and fighting without air superiority and no communications. Their tactics and planes are untested. They have never been to war. Who do you think is the superior fighting force, again The ones with 2 years combat experience or the ones with no combat experience and untested aircraft
If NATO was superior in aviation, it would establish a no fly zone over Ukraine on the first day of Special Military Operation as Russians say or Russian aggression on Ukraine as the West claims.
Oh my god, it’s not literal rocket science. Tax corporations as much as teachers and close loopholes. Fund schools with these taxes and create citizens who can think for themselves to abstain from war or develop the tools to fight and win it if need be.
You don’t need to “think for yourself” to abstain from war. It’s called pacifism. The factors and complexities that lead to and ignite war, are not grounded on whether or not people “think for themselves”. What a naive and juvenile understanding of the world 😂
@@a.nelprober-rl5cf AI has taken all the jobs in my area that pay enough for rent. My options are: become homeless, move or join the military. It’s impossible to be pacifist In an economy that has become militarized against citizens.
@@stchaltin sound like not only is homelessness impossible, but so is moving… interesting! And all that in one of the richest nations in the world probably, correct? I guess when Somali pirates will kidnap your family you will offer your full understanding bcs their situation was probably even a little bit worse than yours? Well you are not a hypocrite so ofc you would understand. 👍
Last year, the EU approved 12 sanction packages against Russia and the Russian economy grew 3%. Meanwhile, the German economy is in "tatters". The EU sanctioned itself.
If you think that it grew I have some beach front property in Oklahoma to sell you. Russia reports their own numbers. That is how China grew by 5% while 30% of their gdp in real estate collapsed. Stock market is down 60% and imports and exports down double digits. Yup still growing lol. Russia only supplies raw unfinished commodities. No high value finished products. No car exports to mention. China took over that. Military exports went to 0 basically. What do people buy from Russia? Not tech, that is for sure. Now they have cut funding to all critical areas like education. On top of that all people that were well educated left. Their tech sector was gutted. Many scientists left. Their pipes are all freezing and bursting. They don’t have enough workers. Seems like they are killing it lmao 😂😂
When has had the USA a strategy? It remembers me on general Custer in Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian. When he is asked, if he has got a plan, he answers, we Americans have never a plan, we just act.
I would believe this aspect of America. They went to Vietnam without a plan, Afghanistan- same, Libya also same; hence the chaotic way they pull out and the utter chaos they leave behind. Never seriously thought about this. Now, they have Ukraine in their hands with no clear strategy in sight. Would it be that they would pull out again in chaos? I hope not!!!
Zelensky is like the Ukrainian Nikita Kruschev in Enemy At the Gate, when the general told him he had already lost 1/2 his men, replied "I don't care. Lose the other 1/2".
How it will end? Ukraine: We want all our territory back and become NATO / Russia: We are not going anywhere. Ukraine must remain neutral or we keep fighting / US: Ukraine cannot become NATO while the conflict is ongoing / Russia: We will keep fighting till enough Ukraine becomes Russia, so that we don't need Ukrainian neutrality anymore. Conclusion: Russia holds the cards.
Look at their faces. You can clearly see the fear in their faces. For two years they were enjoying a reality show. Now they have realized the fun time is over and the Russian bear is charging towards them.
I wander if this people that are discussing the situation do understand the Russians and why they feel threatened by the West. Don't think so...the West lacks empathy if it concerns other cultures. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Indeed. What’s would the U.S do if Canada or Mexico wanted to join a anti American alliance?. They would do exactly what Russia is doing right now. It’s nit hard to understand.
@@braxxian And do Canada or Mexico want to join such an alliance? No because all three are democracies. One easy to spot difference with the situation between Russia and its neighbours.
When Bakmut reverted back to Ukraine, no one celebrated... Its the ebb and flow of war... Ukraine will win in the long run... Its too early to be negative
There was never a stalemate. Ukraine was on the counter and the lines did not move, meaning they lost. Now Russia are on the move and Ukraine is retreating. No need to use fancy words
As a German I grew up in a free and independent West Germany and Germany became a democracy after WWII. Being a member of the EU you can't be 100% independent because you must accept all other members according to the EU rules. Fully independence is only North Korea because they don't care about anything..... Maybe that's what the British Brexiteers are looking for...
They will never shake off occupation. Germany is totally owned and powerless. Now they must smile as their teeth are pulled and Industry / Technology base is dismantled. Shame...
I'm an EU citizen first and foremost. And I cannot believe the level of absurdity and madness the EU leaders are producing. Everything is about war mongering, and about Ukraine, while in the EU: Cost of living crisis obliterated more than 100 million households moderate living standards, 25 million children are living in food insecurity meaning starving every day. 40 million EU citizens are living in severe poverty. None of these poor people got any cent of support from the EU. European Values: The poor can die, no one cares about them. Unaffordable housing and rental prices reached the limit, where people in the EU cannot afford to have children and start a family. EU leaders doesn't care, about it. They let AirBnb rampage, and basically most of the people doesn't even think about having a family, without the possibility to secure the very basic needs for it. Do the EU provided support of any kind to EU citizens? Nope. While if you happen to be a ukrainian you got shelter, food, money granted by the EU. Good right? How is it more important to spend 100 billion for instruments of killing and destruction, while ignoring the starving children and citizens of the EU? How is it more important to save the investment of the top 1% in real estate, than the collapsing society, and demography crisis, caused by the insufficient supply in housing, letting corporations to buy all the supply, and ignoring the skyrocketing prices? How is it more important to spend tens of billions for Ukraine's war, than securing the food production, than providing the very basics for the farmers. How is it more important to serve the USA's interest over our own?????
Russia is currently spending about 8% of its GDP or 40% of its government revenue on trying to overrun its neighbour. Don't forget Russia is much poorer than any EU country, it is Russian citizens who will suffer the most from an ongoing deterioration of their public services. Perhaps you should direct your question at the Kremlin. As for the war serving US interests, Russia has zero chance of occupying any US territory regardless of the outcome in Ukraine. Russia barely has a navy. Russia is obviously much closer to the EU and has designs on the territory of EU countries.
From these interview, it shows the west is still hunger for more war but the Ukrainian guy on the screen seem to be sober and honest about the reality on ground. Ukraine should find an off-ramp, the west should confront russia directly, Ukraine has done their best.
@@Owen2308 Unfortunately it's the truth. Ukraine will have to prepare and hope Putin won't venture deeper into Ukraine after securing the eastern regions. There were original plans for Russia to push towards the Dnipro, Odessa and to create a link with Transistria.
@@JH24821Putin's plan was always to take the whole of Ukraine and go on from there. It still is the plan. Now that the Russian economy is fully devoted to the war and nothing else, he won't stop and he can't stop.
The West hasn't quit support, it's working around the slow production of ammunition. The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done: Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel. Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
Кто то из вас может сказать для достижения какой цели Запад тратит столько сил и ресурсов? Для того что бы победить Россию? А для чего это нужно, что даст победа Запада над Россией? Не лицемерьте, на Украину и её народ всем на Западе наплевать. Украина лишь инструмент достижения цели, расходный материал.
Here in Canada we have homeless people, living costs are rising, our infrastructure and housing need big investments so the last thing we should do is throw more money at Ukraine, a good portion of which will go to Zelensky and his henchmen! Most likely Russia would agree to a peace settlement that would include transfer of Donbas and Ukrainian neutrality, similar to terms almost agreed in 2022 until Boris Johnson's interference ended the negotiations. Europe is not in a position either to support Ukraine given that its population is declining and aging and the German economy, the main engine of growth, is faltering.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once nato began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining nato was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO NATO is not a defensive alliance. Nato illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. (13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.) Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas. (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) RIP. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
According to Chat GPT, after asking a question as to what Russia gains with the control of the Donbas and Crimea: The Donbas region in Ukraine is rich in coal, particularly anthracite and bituminous coal. Crimea has valuable resources such as titanium, salt, limestone, and some natural gas deposits. If Russia were to control these regions, it would gain access to these minerals and resources, contributing to its economic and industrial capabilities.
Where has men gone in Ukraine since we hear only of tens of thousands of Russians soldiers being killed. What will happen to any Ukrainian reporters who releases the figures of killed Ukrainian soldiers is still unknown . But from the start of the war British, American and Ukrainian intelligence only trumpet Russian casualties.
Has anyone noticed that the Europeans who most want to be involved in this war are the same talking heads that won’t see there sons and daughters dying in that war
Unfortunately in my opinion Europe can not give Putin the Ukraine! As sad as it is he must not be allowed to keep it! This is the plain truth! And this means what it means!
What are they going to do against willpower of other europeans as the russians and their atomic hypersonic missiles? Put a puny missile with a german flag on it? Berlin would be vaporized in a confrontation with NATO on D Day.
Ukraine could guarantee Russia security by taking neutrality. Instead they chose to move NATO closer to Russia. Now they pay for the mistake. Russia is no danger for Europe. Europe is its own enemy. Our politicians are our enemies.
Ukraine will always be Ukraine , Russia need to win and end this war , war that's started 2014 Donbass , Russia never started this war , they are ending it , to bad most people have no ide what happened 10 years ago
Over 70% of americans (majority among republican voters) support Ukraine, support giving aid to Ukraine. The aid bill actually provides over two-thirds of the money for US workers and corporations, ie, it's a jobs bill for americans.
exactly it cost the US nothing it actually SAVES the US money the cost of production goes down when the US ramps up all its factories and on top of that they get so many new export orders coming in..... spending an extra 100 billion when 70 billion goes to US companies and an extra 500 billion of military equipment gets ordered from the US from other countries is a new gain of 470 billiion !!!!! thats pretty much what happens and on top of that after you beat Russia or make them far weaker you can cut back the military budget later in Europe if you wanted too and save hundreds of billions there ...... its a win win .... if you sit there and do nothing your cost of produciton is still high you still need to spend a lot on the military but now everything costs more and you need to spend more forever as now Russia plus Ukraine plus Moldova and Estonia and Latvia and etc is all being controlled by Russia and now your in an even worse postion in 2030 with China far stronger on top of that.... you need to think ahead not just today
no they don't support for ukraine has fallen with both party voters ,thats cnn poll .the bill only caters to MIC and will give jobs to people associated with them nothing for the general public and the homeless and border issue ,so speak the whole truth not just what suits you
The course of the war is entirely dependent on whether the US continues giving a small amount of aid. If sufficiently supplied then Ukrainian ground forces can contain any further Russian advances. The information war for US public opinion is the most important front and the only front on which Russia can achieve victory in Ukraine. Which is why Putin got himself on a particular podcast the other day that has a direct line to rubes in the US.
The US could give 100BN more in aid and Ukraine would still lose. You can print money, but you can't print artillery shells, missiles, tanks, men, and experience.
Rubbish. Russia can out produce the entire west with weapon production. Secondly, the lack of men to fight compared to Russia is a bigger problem. So what will the west do to fix that? Send their own troops to die and cause WW3? Wake up to reality.
I will adk Zelinski, was this worth it? Was wanting to be a enemy of Russia by joining NATO? Ukraine could have been a bridge between the East and West, but it chose to alienate Russia. Zelinski wantwd to eat at the same table as Biden and the EU, and he let his personal ambitions take over what was best for the people. The end result is loss of territory and 100s of thousands of Ukrainians dead.
On the eve of the second Anniversary of the SMO "So much Russia winning Alone while the EU and Nato Lose Together" Only 10% of European Union citizens polled across 12 countries believe Ukraine will triumph over Russia on the battlefield 60% of Politicians are taking steps for War. Democracy is funny We get to choose between 2 Prepicked for us candidates to vote for. Im losing faith in Germany with talk of not allowing one party in elections as it is becoming too popular? Democracy is funny.
I wish to see Zelinsky and Putin face to face talking about peaceful negotiations without western infiltration. Russia and Ukraine are from the same bloodstream
When Ukraine was supplied with lots of arms and ammunition in 2023, it has failed miserably in the counter-offensive. And is losing territory. So what has changed now for the West to conclude that this time around additional arms and ammunition will lead to better results for Ukraine?? Especially when Ukraine is facing a dire situation regarding manpower. The average age of the Ukraine military is 43 !! And the troops have been fighting for 2 years without a break. They badly need a rest. And forget additional troops, there are no men to relieve the troops on the frontline. One feels that the desperate Western obsessions to deliver arms to Ukraine is quite illogical.
If the show was honest: Experts: "Yes Avdiivka was a blow, but there are many successes elswhere." Host: "If all is fine, what are we talking about here?"
No strategy at all. Besides giving amrs and poruing money, NATO has no clue on how to deal with Russia. On the other hand...Russia seemnto know very well how to act with NATO.
This is the result of Western democracies loving their prosperity and peace so much they forgot that those things haventonbe fought for and can be costly unless decisive actions are taken to stop Russia. Have the actions of US, NATO and EU countries shown decisiveness? Now Ukraine suffers from running out of ammos, shells and worse troops
Most people don’t seem to understand that for NATO countries, the war in Ukraine is not a life or death situation. But to Russia, it is. If Ukraine wins the war, Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and in the next war, Russia will have to fight 33 countries, which outgun and outman Russia, a war that will end up becoming a nuclear war. To Russia, the war in Ukraine is the same as WW2, when Russia fought for its survival. So this is a war that Russia cannot lose, because if it does, Russia will be no more. Another aspect that people seem to forget, Russia cannot stop fighting, currently, NATO cannot accept Ukraine into its ranks because Ukraine is at war. So as soon as there is a ceasefire or some kind of peace agreement, NATO can begin the process to accept Ukraine. That’s why Russia will not stop fighting until it wins the war or Ukraine will have to pledge to not join NATO. The slow down of western aid, is just a tactical issue, the strategic part is the fact that aid is not going to help much if there are no soldiers left to fight. At the beginning of the war, the most motivated people signed up to fight, but they are now either dead or seriously wounded that they are no longer able to be on the front lines. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is in the 40’s. Germany is just now planning to spend at least 2% of its GDP on the military. It’s too late. The German army in the last 20 years has not been equipped or having enough working equipment. The war in Afghanistan clearly showed that the German army was not a capable fighting force. It’s the same with England, when the armed forces only has a measly 70,000 troops. In many aspects, this is a war between NATO and Russia fought by non- NATO troops. The war will only end if NATO negotiates with Russia and come to an agreement that Ukraine will serve as a DMZ between them.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to defend Avdiivka for 10 years, they were actually trying to take Donetsk from 2014 to 2022 because they were on the offensive against a tiny Russian backed rebels known as DPR militia which they failed.
Ukraine lost it economy, a generation of young men, 9 millions fled aboard. How much more can Ukraine take another two years of 300,000 KIA and 1,500,000 wounded
More than a strategy, the West simply needs more WILL and RESOLVE to support Ukraine. If you want to equate more will & resolve with "a strategy", then OK. Whatever. With a roughly ~ 9-15x (or greater) advantage over Russia and its supporters (Iran & North Korea) in the fundamental GDP numbers underlying this war of attrition, the collective democratic world can help Ukraine deliver a slam-dunk win over Russia. It WOULD be a no-contest situation if they had the requisite willpower.
@@marijanstankovic8036 Call it by another name then. Call it those who voted in the UN for Russia to respect the UN Charter by withdrawing from Ukraine minus those countries who are unwilling to give Ukraine military assistance (e.g. Brazil). Relabelling that group is a very small thing. What is important is everything else I said in my post. You chose, on the contrary, to focus on something quite inconsequential.
It is confusing because Turkey 🇹🇷 is a NATO member and has been manufacturing military equipment in all types. There is no mention about its military contribution to NATO for shipping these to Ukraine..
After two years of bloody war and grand strategies from our top of notch experts, they've come to realize that Russia is a huge place with lots of resources. Well, I be damned.
Man, 15 years of literal SCREAMING to Westernoids about Nord Stream.
What do you expect?
You really have to question qualifications and intelligence of the people they bring on at times 😂
Those with an understanding of history knew full well how this was going to play out. Russia if fighting this war World War 2 style, and they will win regardless of how many casualties it costs them.
@@mourka01 it reflects how dumb societies are. In 2021 70% of Germans did not see Nord Stream as a danger.
Some nations just never learn.
@@krzywygeneralno more cheap energy, no more industrial nation.
European are still living in their bubble while people around have been sharpening their sword for quite sometime.
@@randyraudi7725shocking response :/
@@jason9766 Shocking is that there are people who expect me to die for this lying and degenerated society.
Absolutely correct
@@randyraudi7725 Go out more and talk to people. I live in Europe and nothing about what you are stating is true. Unless you analyze the reality through youtube. Seriously, go out and talk to your fellow human beings.
Sorry, your statement is vague and false, but we can all misperceive without enough knowledge of history !
I love these experts, they are the reflection of the Western leadership mindset.
They only see things at the tactical level.
And have the gift of being wrong about everything
There's no experts! Just spinners.
I agree. they cant see anything except their own blinkered perspective and dont care about anything or anybody else
They are not even tactically schooled. They see the world in context of previous news articles. If the EU once announced 1 million artillery shells and the actual number produced is lower, then everything is doom and gloom and Ukraine can’t possibly win. Same with this useless Taurus debate. Scholz said "nein" many months ago, but they can’t stop talking about it as if it decided about victory or defeat. Everybody knew Leopard 2 can’t be a "game changer" in an artillery war, but one picture of a destroyed Western tank and Russia is unstoppable!
None of these analysts live in reality
But you are, of course. Please, Go live and enlighten us with your professionality 😂
So you still think Russia is losing? Sorry to bust your bubble but without West support, Ukraine will lose and collapse. It's a shame Ukraine is beautiful country but Russia has to spoil it.
Correct. They are even afraid. Still.
@@NotUnymous You are Ratio'd a small squeak in the big internet
These experrts are all full of shlt. Russia is a superpower. They haven't even use their top notch super weapons. If russia wants to turn kyev to rubble that will be a easy task for them. Stop lying to world.
A year ago DW was talking about Leopards, now talking about F16s . . . :)
They are all talking about f16 for more than a year now
@@lukazupie7220 they sayd last summer that in the end of 23 f16 will arrive.. Now they say 24 summer..
Was the animal Leopard
By the end of this year they’ll have nothing to talk about. Bunch of clowns.😂
DW 2022: Russia has exhausted their entire supply of artillery and soldiers
DW 2024: Russia is cutting through the UA, and going to make it all the way to Poland !
Nope, sorry but Russia can't.
Here's why. The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done:
Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel.
Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
Plus 800 high tech drones coming by spring.
I cant believe people let them convince them that a nuclear power was gonna lose to Ukraine.
@@ninemoonplanet You don't understand, Ukraine's real problem is the soldiers who are running out, not just the ammunition. A nation that is winning certainly does not need to desperately recruit 500,000 new soldiers after having already sent women, old people and semi-invalids to the front.
@ninemoonplanet we shall wait and see, these promises were also made a year ago.
German Parliament has voted today against sending Taurus to Ukraine.
Germany is terrified of Putin and only sends average weapons to Ukraine, not what's actually needed to make a difference.
@@Purple_flower09 What really makes a difference is that Ukraine has no soldiers any more!
They should talk about peace and not weapons ...
but why? aren't they playing the role of big brother anymore?
@@eddastrohmayer251why? They will never have z better chance to escape Russia's influence and join the west. They know this, so they won't give up. If they give up, they will have no future. Who wants to be a poor slave in a mafia state when they could be like poland or Finland in 25 years.
Parliament votes were overwhelming. Fortunately.
2022: Ukraine is Winning the War, they repelled Russia Attack in Kiev!
2023: Ukraine needs all the support, Russia's Stock reverse is severely depleted, They are out of Tanks, Guns, missiles
2024: Ukraine winning the war by loosing more territory that are not of strategic importance!
all they do is win win win no matter what
Russia losing epically
That’s the MSM narrative. And like with all things MSM related it’s 100% BS.
Don't forget the Russian economy is in tatters. Must be so, Van der lying said so.
2024: Russian trolls still trolling.
Russia has increased their shovel production
As the German FM says, Ukrainian interestes comes first, even if at the cost of German interests.
That why blocked aid to ukraine
Avdiika is the new Stalingrad? No wonder the Germans are panicking 😅
Nobody is panicking because it's done already. Germany is trying to move from an almost pacifistic country after WWII to a military powerhouse.... I am sure that in 5 to 10 years every body is complaining again that Germany is too dominant as a military power in Europe.
@@klausschumacher7126its a bad move for them on becoming a pacifist country. no one fears a pacifist. 😂
By everybody you mean the Brits and the Poles I guess.@@klausschumacher7126
@@klausschumacher7126 Germany wasn't pacifist following WW2. That's just myth making.
@@nickz2000Germany didn‘t want to be feared anymore
You lost me , when the "expert " stated 60 thousand dead russian soldiers in Avdeevka . I thought Avdeevka was a rout , the ukrainian forces run away , leaving behind wounded and rear guard soldiers , being shelled on the way out . How can during such a situation Russians have lost 60 thousand soldiers ? You people say anything to get your contractor's fees from DW and goodness knows who else .
I think he said sixteen thousand. Although the usual number I hear is thirty thousand.
16 thousand, and this was a quote directly from Russian sources. And it's believable. They threw waves of men at the city for months.
Russia lost minimum 16 000 soldiers KILLED near Avdeevka. With wounded it might reach 60 000 casualties.
@@NurBulland the guy who published the 16 k dead soldiers committed suicide by shooting himself 4 times in the back.... Sudden death a la KGB...
@@klausschumacher7126what was the name of that blogger? What was his source? Why do Russian casulty numbers in western media differ so much from BBC funded media zona?
These analytics sound like little kids. No logic or strategy were detected in the interview 😅
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It sounds like as if you are talking about the whole NATO.
Western strategy is to rob the taxpayers money and funnel into the elites bank accounts 🌟🌟
the whole west are kids you mean i quess
Bot echo chamber at its finest. Bot 1 talking to Bot 2 to Bot 3. YT, wake up, your comment section is dead.
It seems like Russia knows what she is doing ... that's the assessment. West is here and there, Ukraine being one of many playgrounds.
Playgrouns is actually bigger eu?
Russia knows what they are doing? They are basically using a tactic that is soon 100 years old. The offensive they had at the start of the war showed them trying to fight a modern war, we all know how that went. If Russia had met someone that know how to use the sky and can establish air superiority, they would be crushed. The way they are fighting is so outdated its almost embarrassing.
Taiwan is the next playground
@@wolfswinkel8906Wont happen US is weaken..China strong
> Russia knows what she is doing
ah really? I remember Russia started a war trying occupy Kiev with police only. This war is not about Russia, its about (missing) west support for Ukraine
That lady is having hard time COPING with Russia's advances....😂
Troll much?
@@SurlyShirley With smile 😁.....cant help but enjoy bugging 🐑 in here
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qryou are doing some excellent work. Keep up the good work.
Everything Ukraine has needed to repell the Russian aggression has been supplied either way late or in smaller than adequate amounts. This strategy is not effective.
The ATCM's I thought were settled last fall but none have been sent. Same story with the German Taurus missiles. The F-16 discussion has gone on for so long I can't remember when it began.
If you could call it a straregy, it is a strategy of killing time while your life is under threat.
When local Ukraine- Russia war began 2 yrs. ago. Chinese said: USA started war because: 1.destroy Russia from war. 2.destroy Europe economys from high energys price. 3.destroy EURO to unrival USdollar.
USA has to prolong war as long as possible by send weapons +money to Ukraine using as battle field (Viet.2).
Chinese said it up to Europe politicians know USA's tricks +how smart to solve problems.
American worldwide aggression must be stopped.
Could anyone explain the horrendous strategy's? I'm an average joe but the stuff I hear drives me mad! surely incompetence can't be the leading cause, I'd rather a dodgy plot at least there's something to it however bad that sounds I'd rather that over what seems to be straight up stupidity
The USA is here for a good time, not a long time
Gonzalo Lira and Assange. Does it ring the bell?
Flocking a dead horse.
@@oneshothunter9877 not as dead as Navalny
@@sergeikrivenko9043
Facts. 👍
Ever heard of the relationship between Artillery and casualties? If so, there is no way more Russians would have died in Avdivvka than Ukrainians. Any neutral military expert will confirm that Artillery is responsible for 80% of casualties. Ukraine lacks shells, Russia has abundant. There is of course the defensive advantage of 3 to 1 casualties that Ukraine has. But in Avdivvka the surplus of Russian soldiers undoes this. Russia also has air supremacy. DW, try to get neutral experts, for some realistic assessments.
The side that does the attacking almost always has more casualties. If you defend, you just have to dug in and few soldiers can take down a large number. But for sure both sides suffered heavy casualties.
Anyone can look at stalingrad or the battle of verdun and countless others to see that the defender typically loses more in general
The challenge is if you take the total number of RU soldiers and the claimed casualties it means that RU by now should have run out of personnel. I think giving the world the truth helps
@@stefan5730which video game did you leant that from?
@@brandonlance3601that’s pure unadulterated shi.te talk. Ive only ever heard the opposite from people who know more than you do
DW is sad and that makes me happy
did the ukrainian counter offensive reach crimea yet ?
No it’s at the gates of Moscow
According to general Hodges yes, and it’s also taken Moscow.😀
It's in Vladivostok already.
Are ya winning son?
Lets not act like Russia is any better with their predictions👍😁
Why, the strategy of the West worked perfectly?
The West already knew in 2008, when the idea of bringing Ukraine and Georgia into the western alliance was being pushed the first time, that Russia would most likely go to war over it. Georgia jumped the gun and got pounded to bits, but Ukraine managed to drag Russia into an 8-year long frozen conflict culminating in a 2 year-long hot war that cost Russia an incredible amount of people and military matarial, took a huge toll on its economy and allowed the West to demonize and isolate Russia from those nations in the West that at least tried to get along with them. Now Russia is so exhausted they won't be a problem when the US focuses on China. That Ukraine gets thrown to the wolves in that process was part of the plan from the beginning. Or have you forgotten how the US treated the Afghans, and the Kurds, and the Iraqis, and dozens of "allies" before that?
The refocus on destroyed Crimean ships to divert discussion on avdivka feels like coping. I mean even Russia knows that their airforce and Navy are incomparably subpar to NATO. The best they can do is maybe slow them down in an actual fight. Russian ships hit with NATO weapons with NATO provided intelligence and targeting information are pale in comparison with what is happening in the front and honestly feels more like a PR attempt than anything else.
Russia is a land power. That is the reason for the enormous amount of artillery and armor. That is why Ukraine will never win without direct NATO intervention.
And direct NATO intervention would mean global nuclear war, Putin was clear in his speeches.
Russian air force subpar with NATO, 🤣🤣🤣
You can't be serious right.
Russian pilots have been fighting combat missions every single day for the last 2 years in contested air space covered with layers of air defense.
NATO pilots have absolutely no experience in fighting against integrated air defenses the likes Russia has.
Russian pilots have found and mastered the barriers and limitations of their aircraft and themselves.
They are battle hardened fighters with hours sod combat hours under their belt.
Their ground maintenance crews are well oiled machines.
Most of NATO pilots have never shot a bullet in anger.
Their bases and maintenance crews don't know what is to experience being bombed and fighting without air superiority and no communications.
Their tactics and planes are untested. They have never been to war.
Who do you think is the superior fighting force, again
The ones with 2 years combat experience or the ones with no combat experience and untested aircraft
If NATO was superior in aviation, it would establish a no fly zone over Ukraine on the first day of Special Military Operation as Russians say or Russian aggression on Ukraine as the West claims.
You're deluded
The thin line between entertainment and war
The frontline is everywhere
There be no shelter here. - Rage against the machine.
Bots are everywhere
unfortunately Rage against the machine joined the machine they were so long ago protesting about LOL
Oh my god, it’s not literal rocket science. Tax corporations as much as teachers and close loopholes. Fund schools with these taxes and create citizens who can think for themselves to abstain from war or develop the tools to fight and win it if need be.
Lol another expert😁
You don’t need to “think for yourself” to abstain from war. It’s called pacifism. The factors and complexities that lead to and ignite war, are not grounded on whether or not people “think for themselves”. What a naive and juvenile understanding of the world 😂
@@a.nelprober-rl5cf AI has taken all the jobs in my area that pay enough for rent. My options are: become homeless, move or join the military. It’s impossible to be pacifist In an economy that has become militarized against citizens.
But they need money for rocket science... for war.
@@stchaltin sound like not only is homelessness impossible, but so is moving… interesting! And all that in one of the richest nations in the world probably, correct? I guess when Somali pirates will kidnap your family you will offer your full understanding bcs their situation was probably even a little bit worse than yours? Well you are not a hypocrite so ofc you would understand. 👍
Ukraine has few soldiers left and cruel English and American media and military people are urging them to continue to diie
Is Germany a sovereign state
No
Good question! I found some African countries are more sovereign than Germany.
No its a territory of 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😊😊😊
Are you kidding me 😂
We all know Germany is USA's beach.
Last year, the EU approved 12 sanction packages against Russia and the Russian economy grew 3%. Meanwhile, the German economy is in "tatters". The EU sanctioned itself.
If you think that it grew I have some beach front property in Oklahoma to sell you. Russia reports their own numbers. That is how China grew by 5% while 30% of their gdp in real estate collapsed. Stock market is down 60% and imports and exports down double digits. Yup still growing lol. Russia only supplies raw unfinished commodities. No high value finished products. No car exports to mention. China took over that. Military exports went to 0 basically. What do people buy from Russia? Not tech, that is for sure. Now they have cut funding to all critical areas like education. On top of that all people that were well educated left. Their tech sector was gutted. Many scientists left. Their pipes are all freezing and bursting. They don’t have enough workers. Seems like they are killing it lmao 😂😂
@@VikingpointsEven western institutions say Russia's economy is growing, now the most powerful in Europe, and 5th in the world.
When has had the USA a strategy?
It remembers me on general Custer in Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian. When he is asked, if he has got a plan, he answers, we Americans have never a plan, we just act.
I would believe this aspect of America. They went to Vietnam without a plan, Afghanistan- same, Libya also same; hence the chaotic way they pull out and the utter chaos they leave behind.
Never seriously thought about this. Now, they have Ukraine in their hands with no clear strategy in sight. Would it be that they would pull out again in chaos? I hope not!!!
@@syl-brianskamara1850 Murca always abandons everyone when they no longer see profit in it
Zelensky is like the Ukrainian Nikita Kruschev in Enemy At the Gate, when the general told him he had already lost 1/2 his men, replied "I don't care. Lose the other 1/2".
"America is so good in waging war because war is chaos, and Americans practice chaos on a daily basis" Karl Doenitz
How it will end? Ukraine: We want all our territory back and become NATO / Russia: We are not going anywhere. Ukraine must remain neutral or we keep fighting / US: Ukraine cannot become NATO while the conflict is ongoing / Russia: We will keep fighting till enough Ukraine becomes Russia, so that we don't need Ukrainian neutrality anymore. Conclusion: Russia holds the cards.
We should not forget that the economy of Russia is about or smaller than that of Holland.
😂😅
And you believe in it?
Then think about the average GDP of Afghanistan in the years 2001-2021. The Taliban are laughing at your reasoning.
Give your figures and the year those figures were generated.
If you dare. 🤭
Yet another 'keyboard Strategist!' Just don't forget to pay your sky-high energy bills since you 'seem' to have the money!
Problem is that stuff in Russia is a lot cheaper too. Also, their economy is more similar to Italy.
Afrika stands with Russia in this war against Ukraine (NATO).
Ask france to do very more ...
Look at their faces. You can clearly see the fear in their faces. For two years they were enjoying a reality show. Now they have realized the fun time is over and the Russian bear is charging towards them.
I wander if this people that are discussing the situation do understand the Russians and why they feel threatened by the West. Don't think so...the West lacks empathy if it concerns other cultures. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Do you ever wonder why Eastern Europe feels threatened by Russia?
Indeed. What’s would the U.S do if Canada or Mexico wanted to join a anti American alliance?. They would do exactly what Russia is doing right now. It’s nit hard to understand.
@@braxxian And do Canada or Mexico want to join such an alliance? No because all three are democracies. One easy to spot difference with the situation between Russia and its neighbours.
@zolandia5262 . and who says Democracy is the Suite that fits all? All the democracies of the world are subservient of the US. All of them.....
@@josiahwanjiku9187 Do you consider Russia one of those "democracies"?
When Bakmut reverted back to Ukraine, no one celebrated... Its the ebb and flow of war... Ukraine will win in the long run... Its too early to be negative
There was never a stalemate. Ukraine was on the counter and the lines did not move, meaning they lost. Now Russia are on the move and Ukraine is retreating. No need to use fancy words
the last time Germany provoked Russia was not good times,
DW tires ppl with this silly narrative....
Imagine Germany want to liberty ukraine 😂 be an independent country first
As a German I grew up in a free and independent West Germany and Germany became a democracy after WWII. Being a member of the EU you can't be 100% independent because you must accept all other members according to the EU rules. Fully independence is only North Korea because they don't care about anything..... Maybe that's what the British Brexiteers are looking for...
They will never shake off occupation. Germany is totally owned and powerless. Now they must smile as their teeth are pulled and Industry / Technology base is dismantled. Shame...
We all knew that the West would leave Ukraine, only the Ukrainians didn't know it.
Go live on Poland then😅
I'm an EU citizen first and foremost. And I cannot believe the level of absurdity and madness the EU leaders are producing. Everything is about war mongering, and about Ukraine, while in the EU:
Cost of living crisis obliterated more than 100 million households moderate living standards, 25 million children are living in food insecurity meaning starving every day. 40 million EU citizens are living in severe poverty. None of these poor people got any cent of support from the EU. European Values: The poor can die, no one cares about them.
Unaffordable housing and rental prices reached the limit, where people in the EU cannot afford to have children and start a family. EU leaders doesn't care, about it. They let AirBnb rampage, and basically most of the people doesn't even think about having a family, without the possibility to secure the very basic needs for it. Do the EU provided support of any kind to EU citizens? Nope. While if you happen to be a ukrainian you got shelter, food, money granted by the EU. Good right?
How is it more important to spend 100 billion for instruments of killing and destruction, while ignoring the starving children and citizens of the EU?
How is it more important to save the investment of the top 1% in real estate, than the collapsing society, and demography crisis, caused by the insufficient supply in housing, letting corporations to buy all the supply, and ignoring the skyrocketing prices?
How is it more important to spend tens of billions for Ukraine's war, than securing the food production, than providing the very basics for the farmers.
How is it more important to serve the USA's interest over our own?????
You don't realise that Europe is under threat.
Right now the EU is fighting for survival.
@@Purple_flower09 Europe is not under threat ! Stop this warmongering!
@@galvinstanley3235 Where do you come from to write such a nonsense ? !
Russia is currently spending about 8% of its GDP or 40% of its government revenue on trying to overrun its neighbour. Don't forget Russia is much poorer than any EU country, it is Russian citizens who will suffer the most from an ongoing deterioration of their public services. Perhaps you should direct your question at the Kremlin.
As for the war serving US interests, Russia has zero chance of occupying any US territory regardless of the outcome in Ukraine. Russia barely has a navy. Russia is obviously much closer to the EU and has designs on the territory of EU countries.
Murdering a political prisoner in your custody isn’t a show of strength … It’s a sign of weakness …
Keep defending the truth, keep defending democracy, keep defending Ukraine!
😂😂
To all democracy loving peoples of the world, support Ukraine, stand with Ukraine!
there is no more democracy in the world. Maybe at the end of last century we had democracy in some countries around Europe but is over now.
World stands with Russia... open your eyes already
people like putin are what you get when "democracy" has become a rotten system.
and its the best system, nothing better, lets be it until the end of time.
😂😂😂😂😂
From these interview, it shows the west is still hunger for more war but the Ukrainian guy on the screen seem to be sober and honest about the reality on ground.
Ukraine should find an off-ramp, the west should confront russia directly, Ukraine has done their best.
I'm not sure if there's an off-ramp for Ukraine left. Putin becomes more emboldened and will likely only want unconditional surrender.
@@JH24821Agreed. Putin won't negotiate when he's in the stronger position and Ukraine is on the back foot.
@@Owen2308 Unfortunately it's the truth. Ukraine will have to prepare and hope Putin won't venture deeper into Ukraine after securing the eastern regions. There were original plans for Russia to push towards the Dnipro, Odessa and to create a link with Transistria.
@@JH24821Putin's plan was always to take the whole of Ukraine and go on from there. It still is the plan. Now that the Russian economy is fully devoted to the war and nothing else, he won't stop and he can't stop.
@@Owen2308zelensky signed no peace the pen 🖋 was given as a gift from boris Johnson 😂
First time I'm hearing of a "strategic town"😂
The more you deny reality,,the pain you will feel,,and the reality stands no amount of aid Will prevent Russia from achieving all its goals
The West hasn't quit support, it's working around the slow production of ammunition.
The Canadian Government is spending $30 million to help get this done:
Although the details are still being finalized, defence sources say the federal government could contribute as much as $30 million to the plan, which was proposed at the opening of the Munich Security conference by Czech Republic President Petr Pavel.
Pavel's government said it has been able to source up to 800,000 shells of NATO-standard calibre, along with shells of other calibres, from unidentified, non-NATO countries. It says it needs financial support to get the ammunition to Ukraine.
Macron alone is blocking EU money being spent on buying shells on the world market. Still Putin's friend by the looks of it.
800,000 shells is 4 months worth. And they have a shortage of men.
Could be North Korea
Кто то из вас может сказать для достижения какой цели Запад тратит столько сил и ресурсов? Для того что бы победить Россию? А для чего это нужно, что даст победа Запада над Россией?
Не лицемерьте, на Украину и её народ всем на Западе наплевать. Украина лишь инструмент достижения цели, расходный материал.
Here in Canada we have homeless people, living costs are rising, our infrastructure and housing need big investments so the last thing we should do is throw more money at Ukraine, a good portion of which will go to Zelensky and his henchmen! Most likely Russia would agree to a peace settlement that would include transfer of Donbas and Ukrainian neutrality, similar to terms almost agreed in 2022 until Boris Johnson's interference ended the negotiations. Europe is not in a position either to support Ukraine given that its population is declining and aging and the German economy, the main engine of growth, is faltering.
Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity.
In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.
If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.
Zelensky admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.
Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.
Russia's national security was compromised once nato began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining nato was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns.
20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO
NATO is not a defensive alliance. Nato illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).
We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.
Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?
Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.
Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland.
Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed.
Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”.
Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it.
Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country.
Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. (13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.)
Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list.
There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas. (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence).
The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present.
Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave.
Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) RIP.
The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).
The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter.
I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion.
I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.
Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.
Henry Kissinger: the USA don’t have friends only common interests. I guess Ukraine just found out
there's gonna be seriously tough times ahead for Europe, if we remain inactive
According to Chat GPT, after asking a question as to what Russia gains with the control of the Donbas and Crimea: The Donbas region in Ukraine is rich in coal, particularly anthracite and bituminous coal. Crimea has valuable resources such as titanium, salt, limestone, and some natural gas deposits. If Russia were to control these regions, it would gain access to these minerals and resources, contributing to its economic and industrial capabilities.
Sevastopol has also been an important port and naval base throughout its history, and crimea is culturally important >according to putin
Where has men gone in Ukraine since we hear only of tens of thousands of Russians soldiers being killed. What will happen to any Ukrainian reporters who releases the figures of killed Ukrainian soldiers is still unknown . But from the start of the war British, American and Ukrainian intelligence only trumpet Russian casualties.
Russia was ready to exchange Navalny, a lot if roomers were about this. So it is rather accedent
Has anyone noticed that the Europeans who most want to be involved in this war are the same talking heads that won’t see there sons and daughters dying in that war
Unfortunately in my opinion Europe can not give Putin the Ukraine! As sad as it is he must not be allowed to keep it! This is the plain truth! And this means what it means!
They decided in Istanbul to give Ukraine to Russia.. they pushed them into a war that they can not win...
What are they going to do against willpower of other europeans as the russians and their atomic hypersonic missiles? Put a puny missile with a german flag on it? Berlin would be vaporized in a confrontation with NATO on D Day.
I know you are heartbroken but the truth is Ukraine is doomed.
Ukraine could guarantee Russia security by taking neutrality. Instead they chose to move NATO closer to Russia. Now they pay for the mistake. Russia is no danger for Europe. Europe is its own enemy. Our politicians are our enemies.
Ukraine will always be Ukraine , Russia need to win and end this war , war that's started 2014 Donbass , Russia never started this war , they are ending it , to bad most people have no ide what happened 10 years ago
Free Julian Asange now
Putin would love that.
@@captainyossarian388 Free world will love that no Putin.
Over 70% of americans (majority among republican voters) support Ukraine, support giving aid to Ukraine. The aid bill actually provides over two-thirds of the money for US workers and corporations, ie, it's a jobs bill for americans.
exactly it cost the US nothing it actually SAVES the US money the cost of production goes down when the US ramps up all its factories and on top of that they get so many new export orders coming in..... spending an extra 100 billion when 70 billion goes to US companies and an extra 500 billion of military equipment gets ordered from the US from other countries is a new gain of 470 billiion !!!!! thats pretty much what happens and on top of that after you beat Russia or make them far weaker you can cut back the military budget later in Europe if you wanted too and save hundreds of billions there ...... its a win win .... if you sit there and do nothing your cost of produciton is still high you still need to spend a lot on the military but now everything costs more and you need to spend more forever as now Russia plus Ukraine plus Moldova and Estonia and Latvia and etc is all being controlled by Russia and now your in an even worse postion in 2030 with China far stronger on top of that.... you need to think ahead not just today
Maybe so but in Europe there is talk of military drafts. I wish Ukraine well but not to that extent.
no they don't support for ukraine has fallen with both party voters ,thats cnn poll .the bill only caters to MIC and will give jobs to people associated with them nothing for the general public and the homeless and border issue ,so speak the whole truth not just what suits you
Yup almost seems likevthe legislatif doesn't represent the people 😅
All of you gathered around to listen to Roman just so he can say the situation is very very very terrrrreeble 😂
North Korea amd Iran,supplying the drone or artillery shells better than the west at this point maybe?
lol this comment should be pinned 😂😂😂🔥
they are fighting with shovels 😂😂
The course of the war is entirely dependent on whether the US continues giving a small amount of aid.
If sufficiently supplied then Ukrainian ground forces can contain any further Russian advances.
The information war for US public opinion is the most important front and the only front on which Russia can achieve victory in Ukraine. Which is why Putin got himself on a particular podcast the other day that has a direct line to rubes in the US.
What a nonsense ! The Ukrainians have not enough soldiers anymore. Stop warmongering!
Ukraine has no soldiers ...
The US could give 100BN more in aid and Ukraine would still lose. You can print money, but you can't print artillery shells, missiles, tanks, men, and experience.
Rubbish. Russia can out produce the entire west with weapon production. Secondly, the lack of men to fight compared to Russia is a bigger problem. So what will the west do to fix that? Send their own troops to die and cause WW3? Wake up to reality.
I will adk Zelinski, was this worth it? Was wanting to be a enemy of Russia by joining NATO? Ukraine could have been a bridge between the East and West, but it chose to alienate Russia. Zelinski wantwd to eat at the same table as Biden and the EU, and he let his personal ambitions take over what was best for the people. The end result is loss of territory and 100s of thousands of Ukrainians dead.
On the eve of the second Anniversary of the SMO "So much Russia winning Alone while the EU and Nato Lose Together"
Only 10% of European Union citizens polled across 12 countries believe Ukraine will triumph over Russia on the battlefield
60% of Politicians are taking steps for War. Democracy is funny We get to choose between 2 Prepicked for us candidates to vote for.
Im losing faith in Germany with talk of not allowing one party in elections as it is becoming too popular? Democracy is funny.
Wasn't Avdiivka the headquarters where Ukraine started bombing Russian ethnic civilians in eastern Ukraine in 2014?
Security agreement with Ukraine without Russian consent means another conflict
Does this guy understand it
Without EU or USA troops, Ukraine is lost; but it won't happen, as NATO don't want a direct confrontation.
It’s two years too late to question what the strategy should be.
Western Leaders do have a strategy. Give Ukrain enough aid to hold Russia but not to defeat it.
BRICS support Russia 👍👍👍
You can't change your neighbour.
... So be good with your neighbour... Don't befriend your neighbors enemy (NATO) 😅😅
The west is decadent and divided - General Orlov, Soviet Meeting in Octopussy (1983).
Without strong families, there is no strong country. Check your country divorce rate and number of single mothers.
It is foolish to say west go to war without a strategy
I wish to see Zelinsky and Putin face to face talking about peaceful negotiations without western infiltration. Russia and Ukraine are from the same bloodstream
What bloodstream?
@@koushikdas1992 Ukraine and Russia same ethnic people just slightly difference
Really? I thought 20% of russians were asiatic. Or are you saying only white people are Russians? Bit racist that.
@@jackson18021 All slavic European nations are closely related. But does it matter anyhow?
I couldn't watch this for 10mims!
Please stop discussing this war and instead discuss, (intensively),
HOW TO END IT!!!!!
DW should invest in purchasing proper shoes to Rafael Los, he is wearing his girlfriends sneakers...
THIS REPORT IS USELESS.
WHY DONT YOU BRING SOMEONE THAT WILL REFUTE OR CHALLENGE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING????
So now its our fault Ukraine lost Avdiivka ?
When Ukraine was supplied with lots of arms and ammunition in 2023, it has failed miserably in the counter-offensive. And is losing territory.
So what has changed now for the West to conclude that this time around additional arms and ammunition will lead to better results for Ukraine?? Especially when Ukraine is facing a dire situation regarding manpower. The average age of the Ukraine military is 43 !! And the troops have been fighting for 2 years without a break. They badly need a rest. And forget additional troops, there are no men to relieve the troops on the frontline.
One feels that the desperate Western obsessions to deliver arms to Ukraine is quite illogical.
Why is negotiating never on the table for "the west"?
Because Putin does not negotiate
i disagree, the strategy clearly exists, "we say we give ukraine everything it needs, and on the same hand we ll give them the less possible"
If the show was honest:
Experts: "Yes Avdiivka was a blow, but there are many successes elswhere."
Host: "If all is fine, what are we talking about here?"
You lost a war you started and now the headlines is full of salty tears about Putin
No strategy at all. Besides giving amrs and poruing money, NATO has no clue on how to deal with Russia. On the other hand...Russia seemnto know very well how to act with NATO.
This is the result of Western democracies loving their prosperity and peace so much they forgot that those things haventonbe fought for and can be costly unless decisive actions are taken to stop Russia. Have the actions of US, NATO and EU countries shown decisiveness? Now Ukraine suffers from running out of ammos, shells and worse troops
Think a minute is it the Russian versus west on Ukraine land or Russia verse Europe
😂 the best strategy is no strategy 😂 Sun Tzu
Most people don’t seem to understand that for NATO countries, the war in Ukraine is not a life or death situation. But to Russia, it is. If Ukraine wins the war, Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and in the next war, Russia will have to fight 33 countries, which outgun and outman Russia, a war that will end up becoming a nuclear war. To Russia, the war in Ukraine is the same as WW2, when Russia fought for its survival. So this is a war that Russia cannot lose, because if it does, Russia will be no more.
Another aspect that people seem to forget, Russia cannot stop fighting, currently, NATO cannot accept Ukraine into its ranks because Ukraine is at war. So as soon as there is a ceasefire or some kind of peace agreement, NATO can begin the process to accept Ukraine. That’s why Russia will not stop fighting until it wins the war or Ukraine will have to pledge to not join NATO.
The slow down of western aid, is just a tactical issue, the strategic part is the fact that aid is not going to help much if there are no soldiers left to fight. At the beginning of the war, the most motivated people signed up to fight, but they are now either dead or seriously wounded that they are no longer able to be on the front lines. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is in the 40’s.
Germany is just now planning to spend at least 2% of its GDP on the military. It’s too late. The German army in the last 20 years has not been equipped or having enough working equipment. The war in Afghanistan clearly showed that the German army was not a capable fighting force. It’s the same with England, when the armed forces only has a measly 70,000 troops.
In many aspects, this is a war between NATO and Russia fought by non- NATO troops. The war will only end if NATO negotiates with Russia and come to an agreement that Ukraine will serve as a DMZ between them.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to defend Avdiivka for 10 years, they were actually trying to take Donetsk from 2014 to 2022 because they were on the offensive against a tiny Russian backed rebels known as DPR militia which they failed.
Zelensky has flown to Germany like 30 or 40 times lul
Don't poke the bear and get out of it's back yard, It's very simple even for fools.
Cowardice, Arrogance, we really need to vote the people who have been leading the west for the past two decades out.
Ukraine lost it economy, a generation of young men, 9 millions fled aboard. How much more can Ukraine take another two years of 300,000 KIA and 1,500,000 wounded
The EU still hasn't figured out it's involved in a war.
More than a strategy, the West simply needs more WILL and RESOLVE to support Ukraine. If you want to equate more will & resolve with "a strategy", then OK. Whatever. With a roughly ~ 9-15x (or greater) advantage over Russia and its supporters (Iran & North Korea) in the fundamental GDP numbers underlying this war of attrition, the collective democratic world can help Ukraine deliver a slam-dunk win over Russia. It WOULD be a no-contest situation if they had the requisite willpower.
Collective democratic world?! Hahahahahahahahaha! What a joke!
@@marijanstankovic8036 Call it by another name then. Call it those who voted in the UN for Russia to respect the UN Charter by withdrawing from Ukraine minus those countries who are unwilling to give Ukraine military assistance (e.g. Brazil).
Relabelling that group is a very small thing. What is important is everything else I said in my post. You chose, on the contrary, to focus on something quite inconsequential.
After two years, EU realized they have poked the sleepy bear lol
It is confusing because Turkey 🇹🇷 is a NATO member and has been manufacturing military equipment in all types.
There is no mention about its military contribution to NATO for shipping these to Ukraine..
These experts live in their own fantasy world.
There is a strategy but one of the two major political parties is siding with Putin and is undermining any effort to help Ukraine.
Those washing machine chips and shovels Russian are using are highly effective.