I just broke my own record, I was hard stuck at 1.8 million but today after 1 hour of trying I hit a record of 1.94 million! Your videos helped me a lot, thank you! I dont think I can hit any higher hehe
Nice run as always! :D I was wondering how many attempts/restarts you perform on average before getting to these numbers? Would you drop a run at a certain point or you'd stick to it and see what comes out? I understand that only a fraction of your attempts make it to youtube, but you're still very consistent on hitting those 1.9m runs which is crazy! Props to you! Also, I've noticed today that the Cinderguard archers don't damage you too much when you bump into them (just like you do with the first 2 Roshans), especially if you do it in-between their attacks. Might be helpful when you try to clear them as fast as possible. Looking forward to your next videos! Good luck!
I restart if I am like 100k points behind my timings from table and there is nothing interesting happens (like in this game with managing delayed bosses, or one of previous video, where I got early Snotty) - so basically if I can't make content. I might proceed with the run if I can test something interesting (but it might be a bad "testing" if run is already behind - any test will fail if the base is already bad) I might proceed with the run just because I feel like it :) I do have some fun playing the mod.
When I can't make close to 1.9M run consistently, even with lucky draws, I try to review latest recording and understand what I am doing wrong and probably back off some new strategies and return to old ones. (I was doing the same before I hit those 1.95m+ attempts - just looking at ~90-95% of highest score). And yeah... Lots of tries lots of restarts. I do play around 6 hours a day. And Nest Of Thorns is my main game right now . I also had a 5 days rest from this after I hit 1.946M run - because I was not having fun for some time. But now I am back :)
I am hard stuck on 1.8M. While I was watching your videos, I have noticed that I am not hitting 500k on 5, even though I follow strategy with maxing mortimer (usually have 4-5 level at 2:30), as well as restart until I have specialist array and octarine until 2:30. But seems like I am not hitting enough score on skeletons. Have seen your advice about mortimer usage (running away from first hits to make it hit away from the screen). Does hitting mortimer away from the screen make more skeletons to spawn? As well I wonder, seen other youtuber say that magnet does not grant you points for crystals it brings, is it true? Is there any advice for me coming to mind? Thank you in advance, sir!
I was also a youtuber who claimed magnet burns points. But one redditor made me reconsider that conclusion. I am pretty certain it works just fine -;points are granted in 10 seconds after pickup.
Are you behind at minute 4? Or do you lack points between 4 and 5? Those are important questions for you to improve. I do not hit 500 every time I play till that minute. And if I am behind by 50k+ - I restart. It is a complicated thing to replicate. You need to perform well as well as get lucky: Mortimer's spread, spawn patterns, etc. It's a grind. Good luck mate!
@PilgrimStream I am mostly always about 220 on 4 and about 420~ on 5. It is fine, will grind) thank you, sir) Btw, if boss is opposite side from the corridor you are in do u restart?
1.9M is awesome! You are doing great! What do you mean by "actually good"? Do you get more points than usual? At which timings? What are expected points and gain with knife?
@@PilgrimStream I meant comparing to frostbite and laguna knife in my opinion is better, 0 cd, infinite pierce + critical. Yes, i noticed the score got a bit boosted with knife, but need to spin it like helicopter lol
Looking forward yours 2M run! Did you notice any pattern of miniboss spawn? I suppose it ruined my best run(where I still got 1.946) but timings were broken as boss spawned in the opposite side of the map.
what video settings you recommend, you said more fps helps? At the moment I have almost max video and fps locked to 165, should I go very low everything and unlock my fps?
I don't think FPS matters anymore as long as those are playable. Last 2 videos I posted are in 4k and with max settings in dota. Also locked to 60 UI and 144 in-game. So yeah... I don't know.
I like that idea - I had it in the past and tried some ech5 and ech6. But I don't think this is the way now. Base score (for killing/ picking up stuff) is Echelon multiplied by 10. So basically you get 70 points for killing early skeleton in echelon 7 and you will get 50 in echelon 5.
Whats the reasoning behind maxing snap first? i feel like you can survive/kill everything maxing venge and then move to level track for the additional projectiles, then max lich 3rd and only then snap/skymage 4th/5ft. Shouldnt that net you more gold/score?
Mortimer is the best skill against early skeleton waves (2:30-3:15, 4:00-4:45, 5:45-6:15). Nothing beats it from what I know. I would love to learn some other strategy, that will net over 500K points at minute 5. ( I have seen maxing venge can bring you to like 485k, bit those rather super rare cases, where I hit over 500k with Mortimer pretty consistently)
@@PilgrimStream thx for the insight, i actually never tracked my points so i cant comment on that, it's just the feeling i had when maxing snap vs venge is that with snap maxed i still sometimes got overwhelmed by mobs if the projectiles spread not ideally while with venge it was usually a walk in the park surviving the early waves. But since we're hunting score i guess snap is the higher risk higher reward way to go while going venge is the safe option
I've been thinkering with an idea, but I haven't been lucky enough to get past the 1.8M mark. So, you play normally like that, except before the last miniboss, you get Frostbite out of the 6 skill and aghs. My reasoning is: with aghs, they die, while frostbiting enemies around, while taking 25% more dmg from projectiles. I was stuck on 1.7 for a long time, now doing this I got to 1.8ish a few times already. If maybe someone gets a really lucky run, they can get past 2.0M
I had no luck with frostbite+aghs. I had it like 5 times. I feel like frostbite makes it worse as frozen enemies won't move towards you. But it might be a working strategy
@@slashmandor Later on, magic missile and chain frost are doing almost 100% of dmg. So you get a little tick dmg, increased projectile dmg and aoe frostbite on packed waves from 10min onwards. Sounds like more dmg to me
bro, try using your body to kill cindegard boss. after their arrow animation, run at them. kill 2 to 3 in an instant. comeback at me when youve tried it
I don't think so. Bad CPU will rather result in lower FPS. I do rock a crazy good CPU - Ryzen 7950x. I did my 1.998M with no multithreading. And last 2 videos in 4K i was recording using CPU/software encoding - so most of the CPU was busy with recording the video. I do think having the game run at 60+ fps is good, but you don't need to go crazy.
@@PilgrimStream i try with a old laptop its all ways give 60FPS but i cant get more than 1.6mill ever how hard i try in my pc i can get to 1.8M i think CPU clocks made the difference BTW you using vulkan or dx11?.
I did try those few times already, and I might try it again. But I have feeling that Knifes perform worse than annihilation or laguna blade, not sure about Wisp and Frostbite.
damn, what bad luck. you waited for the aegis to use the new skill and it didn't appear and still, her DPS was high... I was thinking... would the aghs in spirit be enough for 2k?
@@slashmandorannihulation is only viable because at the end u can skip the insane huge cd by leveling fast, and it really good to clean theblast haves leveling up. Ags on it doesnt look good to me, looks like a waste in a skill u will use 8 times
Frostbite is better than spirits. Also makes arcane bolt kill mobs. also early kaya after 2 array and 3 octarine makes you kill zombies with mortimer so ez. kaya yasha is better than khanda probably early game since it buffs mortimer
Frostbite looks very strong on paper. But in practice I had really bad results with it. Could be cause by the fact that frozen enemies won't move towards your character. Nevertheless I won't be surprised if frostbite can outperform Spirits/LagunaBlade/Annihilation
Your friend is a beast! Can you ask him for advice and share it with everyone? On Reddit for example? It could be he hit those numbers pre 1.1 patch btw. I doubt it is possible to hit even 2.2M to be honest. Maybe I am wrong
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I just broke my own record, I was hard stuck at 1.8 million but today after 1 hour of trying I hit a record of 1.94 million!
Your videos helped me a lot, thank you!
I dont think I can hit any higher hehe
You got it mate! Well done!
This is so great to hear
Nice run as always! :D
I was wondering how many attempts/restarts you perform on average before getting to these numbers? Would you drop a run at a certain point or you'd stick to it and see what comes out? I understand that only a fraction of your attempts make it to youtube, but you're still very consistent on hitting those 1.9m runs which is crazy! Props to you!
Also, I've noticed today that the Cinderguard archers don't damage you too much when you bump into them (just like you do with the first 2 Roshans), especially if you do it in-between their attacks. Might be helpful when you try to clear them as fast as possible.
Looking forward to your next videos! Good luck!
I restart if I am like 100k points behind my timings from table and there is nothing interesting happens (like in this game with managing delayed bosses, or one of previous video, where I got early Snotty) - so basically if I can't make content.
I might proceed with the run if I can test something interesting (but it might be a bad "testing" if run is already behind - any test will fail if the base is already bad)
I might proceed with the run just because I feel like it :)
I do have some fun playing the mod.
When I can't make close to 1.9M run consistently, even with lucky draws, I try to review latest recording and understand what I am doing wrong and probably back off some new strategies and return to old ones. (I was doing the same before I hit those 1.95m+ attempts - just looking at ~90-95% of highest score).
And yeah... Lots of tries lots of restarts. I do play around 6 hours a day. And Nest Of Thorns is my main game right now .
I also had a 5 days rest from this after I hit 1.946M run - because I was not having fun for some time. But now I am back :)
I am hard stuck on 1.8M. While I was watching your videos, I have noticed that I am not hitting 500k on 5, even though I follow strategy with maxing mortimer (usually have 4-5 level at 2:30), as well as restart until I have specialist array and octarine until 2:30. But seems like I am not hitting enough score on skeletons. Have seen your advice about mortimer usage (running away from first hits to make it hit away from the screen). Does hitting mortimer away from the screen make more skeletons to spawn? As well I wonder, seen other youtuber say that magnet does not grant you points for crystals it brings, is it true? Is there any advice for me coming to mind? Thank you in advance, sir!
I was also a youtuber who claimed magnet burns points. But one redditor made me reconsider that conclusion. I am pretty certain it works just fine -;points are granted in 10 seconds after pickup.
Are you behind at minute 4? Or do you lack points between 4 and 5?
Those are important questions for you to improve.
I do not hit 500 every time I play till that minute. And if I am behind by 50k+ - I restart.
It is a complicated thing to replicate. You need to perform well as well as get lucky: Mortimer's spread, spawn patterns, etc.
It's a grind.
Good luck mate!
@PilgrimStream I am mostly always about 220 on 4 and about 420~ on 5. It is fine, will grind) thank you, sir)
Btw, if boss is opposite side from the corridor you are in do u restart?
Mostly. Depends. I might try.
Yah Nice bro.
I always feelk like i get less monsters at min 7:14, hemm, what am i missing here? can barely made it to my first 1.9M lol
I also do comparisson for the alternate aghanim, knife is also actually good, especially at last one minute pairing with khanda.
1.9M is awesome! You are doing great!
What do you mean by "actually good"? Do you get more points than usual? At which timings? What are expected points and gain with knife?
@@PilgrimStream before 10, but i maybe spirits better in this case, good thing about knife we got critical + infite pierce for agha
@@PilgrimStream do you play using keyboard or mouse? i dont see the cursor right there
@@PilgrimStream I meant comparing to frostbite and laguna knife in my opinion is better, 0 cd, infinite pierce + critical. Yes, i noticed the score got a bit boosted with knife, but need to spin it like helicopter lol
Looking forward yours 2M run! Did you notice any pattern of miniboss spawn? I suppose it ruined my best run(where I still got 1.946) but timings were broken as boss spawned in the opposite side of the map.
I can't see boss spawn patterns. but I hope every time xD
Why do you prefer maxing cfrost instead track on this run?
Just experimenting. I think the proper way is to level up Lich during waves with lots of monsters; and Bounty when there are few monsters.
You just broke everything that i thought was right hahaha
I do often break my own assumptions and understanding of the game :)
Also I did learn many things from community, including comments for my videos xD
what video settings you recommend, you said more fps helps?
At the moment I have almost max video and fps locked to 165, should I go very low everything and unlock my fps?
I don't think FPS matters anymore as long as those are playable.
Last 2 videos I posted are in 4k and with max settings in dota. Also locked to 60 UI and 144 in-game.
So yeah... I don't know.
I have a question, do you need to play specifically echelon 7 to get high scores or any echelon would be ok. If so, what are the differences.
I like that idea - I had it in the past and tried some ech5 and ech6. But I don't think this is the way now.
Base score (for killing/ picking up stuff) is Echelon multiplied by 10. So basically you get 70 points for killing early skeleton in echelon 7 and you will get 50 in echelon 5.
Whats the reasoning behind maxing snap first? i feel like you can survive/kill everything maxing venge and then move to level track for the additional projectiles, then max lich 3rd and only then snap/skymage 4th/5ft. Shouldnt that net you more gold/score?
Mortimer is the best skill against early skeleton waves (2:30-3:15, 4:00-4:45, 5:45-6:15). Nothing beats it from what I know.
I would love to learn some other strategy, that will net over 500K points at minute 5. ( I have seen maxing venge can bring you to like 485k, bit those rather super rare cases, where I hit over 500k with Mortimer pretty consistently)
@@PilgrimStream thx for the insight, i actually never tracked my points so i cant comment on that, it's just the feeling i had when maxing snap vs venge is that with snap maxed i still sometimes got overwhelmed by mobs if the projectiles spread not ideally while with venge it was usually a walk in the park surviving the early waves. But since we're hunting score i guess snap is the higher risk higher reward way to go while going venge is the safe option
I've been thinkering with an idea, but I haven't been lucky enough to get past the 1.8M mark.
So, you play normally like that, except before the last miniboss, you get Frostbite out of the 6 skill and aghs. My reasoning is: with aghs, they die, while frostbiting enemies around, while taking 25% more dmg from projectiles. I was stuck on 1.7 for a long time, now doing this I got to 1.8ish a few times already. If maybe someone gets a really lucky run, they can get past 2.0M
I had no luck with frostbite+aghs. I had it like 5 times. I feel like frostbite makes it worse as frozen enemies won't move towards you.
But it might be a working strategy
Frostbite not add so much dmg as other skills. Only thing is that last wave archery can't shoot)))
@@slashmandor Later on, magic missile and chain frost are doing almost 100% of dmg. So you get a little tick dmg, increased projectile dmg and aoe frostbite on packed waves from 10min onwards. Sounds like more dmg to me
Frostbite should add 25% to ChainFrost and Magic Missile. So on paper it is super good. In practice it wasn't good for my tries, so idk
Aghs spirit should get u 2m?
I don't think so, but that would be 1 less lucky turn in this game xD
How many times did you end up running without posting it? I saw your 1.99....still waiting on 2m...
I can't break 1.7, even with your help.
Thousands of times. Probably over 300+ hours in-game.
I was not able to reach a single 1.9k+ run in last 3 days xD
It's a grind
The closest one, nt!
bro, try using your body to kill cindegard boss. after their arrow animation, run at them. kill 2 to 3 in an instant. comeback at me when youve tried it
I tried it in the past. I don't think I was able to kill more than 1 with a single pool of health.
My biggest trouble is now to max all upgrades xD, still no max in mostly ones, got 1.500.000 tho
That is a great score! Go for it - you still have time!
i think the amount of enemies you will get is CPU bound what is the CPU you are using?.
I don't think so. Bad CPU will rather result in lower FPS.
I do rock a crazy good CPU - Ryzen 7950x. I did my 1.998M with no multithreading. And last 2 videos in 4K i was recording using CPU/software encoding - so most of the CPU was busy with recording the video.
I do think having the game run at 60+ fps is good, but you don't need to go crazy.
@@PilgrimStream i try with a old laptop its all ways give 60FPS but i cant get more than 1.6mill ever how hard i try in my pc i can get to 1.8M i think CPU clocks made the difference BTW you using vulkan or dx11?.
I am using dx11, or whatever is default on windows
What is your pc specs?
CPU Ryzen 7950x
RAM 64GB 5200MHz
GPU RTX 3070
SSD NVME 2TB
Please try infinite pierce Knife Throw and push over 2m
I did try those few times already, and I might try it again. But I have feeling that Knifes perform worse than annihilation or laguna blade, not sure about Wisp and Frostbite.
damn, what bad luck.
you waited for the aegis to use the new skill and it didn't appear
and still, her DPS was high...
I was thinking... would the aghs in spirit be enough for 2k?
I had few runs where I had Spirits with aghs, but nothing crazy.
It could be a valid play
I think best aghs skill is annihilation. It's only can clear final wave
@@slashmandorannihulation is only viable because at the end u can skip the insane huge cd by leveling fast, and it really good to clean theblast haves leveling up. Ags on it doesnt look good to me, looks like a waste in a skill u will use 8 times
i aint lucky with magnets lol
Frostbite is better than spirits.
Also makes arcane bolt kill mobs.
also early kaya after 2 array and 3 octarine makes you kill zombies with mortimer so ez.
kaya yasha is better than khanda probably early game since it buffs mortimer
Frostbite looks very strong on paper. But in practice I had really bad results with it. Could be cause by the fact that frozen enemies won't move towards your character.
Nevertheless I won't be surprised if frostbite can outperform Spirits/LagunaBlade/Annihilation
@@PilgrimStream who knows.. takes insane amount of time.
This game was ruined by so much rng.
if boss respawn lucky this video can be 2m+
I hope one day I hit it :)
my friend did 2.5m, so your 1.9m is not surprising
Your friend is a beast! Can you ask him for advice and share it with everyone? On Reddit for example?
It could be he hit those numbers pre 1.1 patch btw. I doubt it is possible to hit even 2.2M to be honest. Maybe I am wrong
@ I was also surprised when I saw 2.5m, but it was in this patch.
@@nurgaliev6798bullshit send screenshot post in redit if not recorded lol
@@nurgaliev6798i dont believe, doesnt even looks possible right now, sorry
@@nostaldex I can send you a screenshot by adding it as a friend.