Sikkil has very eloquently brought out the elements of his talk with the right combination of carnatic music with few film music to inspire the audience and get them interested in appreciating carnatic music. I enjoyed listening to his talk and i admire his talent !
Sikkil, my love for you and music multiplied after listening to you. I am a crazy lover of our music. Always loved your singing for clarity and manodharmam. Love you too much man.
What an inspiring talk. Loved every second of those 17 odd mins of your talk. Been following you ftom your uoung days & hold you in great admiration. I remember watching a ballet while you were still battling cancer, most touching you got all of us in the audience teary eyed . Wishing you a great life ahead & looking forward to more of such inspiring talks♥️
When the people are raising their hands for the questions we could not see the numbers of the listeners, otherwise it could have inspired us too to enjoy, understand and learn music. A good speech of Sikkil Guru Charan. Sai RAM🙏🙏🙏
By delivering this talk in English is really commendable mainly because it will reach other non Tamizh speaking music lovers. Thanks for your thoughtfulness. I am fully aware of your command on Tamizh too not aware of other languages!
Nice Ted talk on music and emotions! In Kathakali music the singers often bring out the Nava Rasas using a single raga like Thodi...we get to see very wonderful shades of Ragas in kathakali. The Asai mugham incident should remind us of one very popular song in carnatic music wherein Tyagaraja is expressing his anguish and lamenting and this is rendered as a pep song today. I am referring to Nagumomu ganaleni in so called Karnataka Devagandhari Ragam. The raga i believe is non-existent today...and the song is sung in Abheri.
Great. Evolving..also music history..Tamil Pan or Isai or music ( Iyal, Isai and nadagam) is the recorded earliest music in India. Silapathigaram ( also 2000years back in Tholkappium, Natrinai, kurunthogai and others) authored by Ilango Adigal around 500CE (1500 years ago) gives a perfect description about Classical Music. Is it not amazing that somebody in the Tamizh land defined all these as early as the 5th century? In just one verse, he gives the names of the seven swaras as per Tamizh PaN. குரலே, துத்தம், கைக்கிளை, உழையே இளியே, விளரி, தாரம் என்றிவை எழுவகை இசைக்கும் (Swaptha Swaram) எய்தும் பெயரே சவ்வும் (Sa) ரிவ்வும் (Ri) கவ்வும் (Ka) மவ்வும் (Ma) பவ்வும் (Pa) தவ்வும் (Tha) நிவ்வும் (Ni) என்றிவை ஏழும் அவற்றின் எழுத்தே ஆகும் Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni- Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale. Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni- Tharam. Purantharadasa (1500 CE, 500yrs back) a devotee of Vishnu, contributed enormously to further perfect the Tamil Pan as carnatic music and all others iincluding Mumoorthys are followers of Tamil Pan transformed ( name changed) to Carnatic music and further added their kirthana.
wonderful speech . hope people will now show interest in carnatic music.if there is no aroganam and avaroganam no body can even compose a line aof music. it is all from carnatic .highly inspirational talk by sikkil. thank you sikkil.
Very well rendered talk. I could have been happier if he had cited the Ambigapathy song ' Vaada malare marum thene' a fantastic exam.ple of Ragam Mukhari used for a romatic emotion/ situation, by another yester year genius GRamanathan. For one note/ swara chang resulting emotion change, Mohanam and Shiv ranjani could have been added.
That was such an amazing talk..Although I grew up in Punjab, I have always been drawn towards Carnatic Music and listened to devotional Carnatic music on All India Radio and later got some cassettes that my friend brought from Chennai to Ludhiana. Please share, if you have any thoughts on where I should start exploring, purely for listening pleasure. I certainly don't have the will/ determination to learn myself. (being honest); it's purely for my own personal spiritual journey..I feel drawn to the deep seated emotions that singers and musicians express towards the diety. I am equidistant to Lord Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha....so I dont have any preference that ways. Some part of me, it seems, has always been present in Southern India. Would love to explore the connection further, though I am now located in Boston.
Listen to Tamizh film famous songs composed by Ilayaraja Sir. Find out the raaga from Google and then listen to popular carnatic Kritis in the same raga. Then you would be able to àppreciate both forms of music. Hope this helps you.
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I loved the lament rendition of asai mukam marandu poche...You only FEEL Jonpuri like this in Hindustani classical, not in Carnatic...I am not sure why...
Tamil Isai had been stolen or copied or plagiarised and named as Carnatic musics with sanskritised names! Plagiarism by Three moorthys of carnatic music and they dishonestly claimed as original authors but they only propagated what was written some 500AD in Silappathigaaram ( Ilango Adigal 400-500CE; 1500 yrs old even before Parpanans migration to South India). Silapathigaram gives a perfect description about Classical Music. Is it not amazing that somebody in the Tamizh land defined all these as early as the 5th century? In just one verse, he gives the names of the seven swaras as per Tamizh PaN. குரலே, துத்தம், கைக்கிளை, உழையே இளியே, விளரி, தாரம் என்றிவை எழுவகை இசைக்கும் எய்தும் பெயரே சவ்வும் ரிவ்வும் கவ்வும் மவ்வும் பவ்வும் தவ்வும் நிவ்வும் என்றிவை ஏழும் அவற்றின் எழுத்தே ஆகும் Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale. Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale. TRUTH WILL TRIUMPH!
@@BadassBikerOwns .... SANSKRIT NEVER HAD A SCRIPT or written form ( only oral) UNTILL GUPTAS PERIOD I.E.400AD OR 1600YRS AGO . THEY BORROWED NAGARS SCRIPT CALLED NANDI-NAGARI AND CALLED IT DEVA-NAGARI...WHEREAS TAMIL HAD SCRIPT THAT ARE CARBON DATED AS 900BC OR 2900 YEARS OLD IN ADICHANALLUR, KEELADI AND OTHER PLACES. SO ALL SANSCRIPTS ARE ONLY 1600YRS OLD AND MOST OF THEM WERE TRANSLATION FROM TAMIL....YOGA, BHARATHANATYAM, AYURVEDA, SURGERY, CHIDDHA, MATHS AND SCIENCE... IN PRESENT DAY CONTEXT MOST SANSKRIT AUTHORS ARE PLAGIARIZED AND DISHONESTLY COPIED AND TRANSLATED .. The 11th century Kashmiri poet Bilhana compares plagiarists to daityas (anti-gods) and their attempt to steal amrita (the nectar of immortality) during the churning of the ocean. His anxiety shows through as he writes: "साहित्यपाथोनिधिमन्थनोत्थं काव्यामृतं रक्षत हे कवीन्द्राः यदस्य दैत्या इव लुण्ठनाय काव्यार्थचौराः प्रगुणीभवन्ति ।। १.११ Listen lords of poets! Save this nectar of the ears that has arisen from the churning of the treasures of the ocean. Plagiarists, like Daityas, are smoothing it over for looting."
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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
Sikkil has very eloquently brought out the elements of his talk with the right combination of carnatic music with few film music to inspire the audience and get them interested in appreciating carnatic music. I enjoyed listening to his talk and i admire his talent !
great to see that Sikkil accepts the mistake he did open heartedly... artist has to be this sensitive...
Sikkil, my love for you and music multiplied after listening to you. I am a crazy lover of our music. Always loved your singing for clarity and manodharmam. Love you too much man.
The confluence of musical talent & deep intelligent analyses is rare. I see the grace of Mata Saraswati in this luminous soul. Deeply moved by you SG
Short sweet elaboration with Maestro quotes.. Excellent. Gurucharan.Keep serving good music.
Clear & direct presentation
What an inspiring talk. Loved every second of those 17 odd mins of your talk. Been following you ftom your uoung days & hold you in great admiration. I remember watching a ballet while you were still battling cancer, most touching you got all of us in the audience teary eyed . Wishing you a great life ahead & looking forward to more of such inspiring talks♥️
Inspiring talk and touching at same time. Music takes us all to different dimension, blessed to be a human and to have the sense to experience it🙏
he looks so adorable .. of course muic is language byitself. if u are sad or happy the music heels u.
When the people are raising their hands for the questions we could not see the numbers of the listeners, otherwise it could have inspired us too to enjoy, understand and learn music. A good speech of Sikkil Guru Charan. Sai RAM🙏🙏🙏
By delivering this talk in English is really commendable mainly because it will reach other non Tamizh speaking music lovers. Thanks for your thoughtfulness. I am fully aware of your command on Tamizh too not aware of other languages!
He is extra ordinary in singing
Beautiful speech or demo by sikkil guru charan hats off to him
Wonderful speech on elaborating link between music and emotions. I am very much fond of Carnatic music. Very inspiring talk.
Explained very well. Yes music speaks emotions...
Great talk! Absolute clarity of purpose coupled with apt examples. Hats off to Sikkim Gurucharan.
Nice Ted talk on music and emotions! In Kathakali music the singers often bring out the Nava Rasas using a single raga like Thodi...we get to see very wonderful shades of Ragas in kathakali.
The Asai mugham incident should remind us of one very popular song in carnatic music wherein Tyagaraja is expressing his anguish and lamenting and this is rendered as a pep song today. I am referring to Nagumomu ganaleni in so called Karnataka Devagandhari Ragam. The raga i believe is non-existent today...and the song is sung in Abheri.
beautifully presented by Sikkil Gurucharan
A superb inspirational talk sir
Very inspiring 👏👍🙏
Genius...simply amazing
Great. Evolving..also music history..Tamil Pan or Isai or music ( Iyal, Isai and nadagam) is the recorded earliest music in India. Silapathigaram ( also 2000years back in Tholkappium, Natrinai, kurunthogai and others) authored by Ilango Adigal around 500CE (1500 years ago) gives a perfect description about Classical Music. Is it not amazing that somebody in the Tamizh land defined all these as early as the 5th century? In just one verse, he gives the names of the seven swaras as per Tamizh PaN. குரலே, துத்தம், கைக்கிளை, உழையே இளியே, விளரி, தாரம் என்றிவை எழுவகை இசைக்கும் (Swaptha Swaram) எய்தும் பெயரே சவ்வும் (Sa) ரிவ்வும் (Ri) கவ்வும் (Ka) மவ்வும் (Ma) பவ்வும் (Pa) தவ்வும் (Tha) நிவ்வும் (Ni) என்றிவை ஏழும் அவற்றின் எழுத்தே ஆகும்
Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-
Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale. Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-
Tharam.
Purantharadasa (1500 CE, 500yrs back) a devotee of Vishnu, contributed enormously to further perfect the Tamil Pan as carnatic music and all others iincluding Mumoorthys are followers of Tamil Pan transformed ( name changed) to Carnatic music and further added their kirthana.
Veryyyy good💓
wonderful speech . hope people will now show interest in carnatic music.if there is no aroganam and avaroganam no body can even compose a line aof music. it is all from carnatic .highly inspirational talk by sikkil. thank you sikkil.
Sorry it’s Aarohanam and Avarohanam. Sadly Tamizh is a very ancient language and lesser alphabets when compared to other languages
Excellent Sir.
Very well rendered talk.
I could have been happier if he had cited the Ambigapathy song ' Vaada malare marum thene' a fantastic exam.ple of Ragam Mukhari used for a romatic emotion/ situation, by another yester year genius GRamanathan.
For one note/ swara chang resulting emotion change, Mohanam and Shiv ranjani could have been added.
Inspiring👏🏻👏🏻🙏
really extraordinary
very enlightening
That was such an amazing talk..Although I grew up in Punjab, I have always been drawn towards Carnatic Music and listened to devotional Carnatic music on All India Radio and later got some cassettes that my friend brought from Chennai to Ludhiana. Please share, if you have any thoughts on where I should start exploring, purely for listening pleasure. I certainly don't have the will/ determination to learn myself. (being honest); it's purely for my own personal spiritual journey..I feel drawn to the deep seated emotions that singers and musicians express towards the diety. I am equidistant to Lord Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha....so I dont have any preference that ways. Some part of me, it seems, has always been present in Southern India. Would love to explore the connection further, though I am now located in Boston.
Listen to Tamizh film famous songs composed by Ilayaraja Sir. Find out the raaga from Google and then listen to popular carnatic Kritis in the same raga. Then you would be able to àppreciate both forms of music. Hope this helps you.
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awesome!
We enjoyed your demonstration showing your vast knowledge in music. Amazing.
Inspirational talk....enjoyed it
No comments 🙏 it's just south indians are the best😘
shreyans lol , some northies too r not that bad though. :P
shreyans You are prejudiced
Please don’t be so narrow minded. You are broad minded to say southern Indian. Thanks
I loved the lament rendition of asai mukam marandu poche...You only FEEL Jonpuri like this in Hindustani classical, not in Carnatic...I am not sure why...
its basically a hindustani raga
Nice
nice sir
Help a friend in need ! Can anyone show me the rug that he s talking about here 11:33 ? Please
The name of the raag is Lalita. It is a scale of six notes. Mayamalavagowla janyam.
Tamil Isai had been stolen or copied or plagiarised and named as Carnatic musics with sanskritised names! Plagiarism by Three moorthys of carnatic music and they dishonestly claimed as original authors but they only propagated what was written some 500AD in Silappathigaaram ( Ilango Adigal 400-500CE; 1500 yrs old even before Parpanans migration to South India). Silapathigaram gives a perfect description about Classical Music. Is it not amazing that somebody in the Tamizh land defined all these as early as the 5th century?
In just one verse, he gives the names of the seven swaras as per Tamizh PaN.
குரலே, துத்தம், கைக்கிளை, உழையே
இளியே, விளரி, தாரம் என்றிவை
எழுவகை இசைக்கும் எய்தும் பெயரே
சவ்வும் ரிவ்வும் கவ்வும் மவ்வும்
பவ்வும் தவ்வும் நிவ்வும் என்றிவை
ஏழும் அவற்றின் எழுத்தே ஆகும்
Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale. Sa-Kural; Ri-Thuththam;Ga-KaikkiLai;Ma-Uzhai;Pa-ILi;Dha-ViLari;Ni-Tharam. In another verse, he says PaNs(Ragams) are obtained by arranging the 12 Kovais(swaras) in a specified structure in the ascending and descending scale.
TRUTH WILL TRIUMPH!
You're right. Everything in this known world is invented by Tamils.
@@BadassBikerOwns .... SANSKRIT NEVER HAD A SCRIPT or written form ( only oral) UNTILL GUPTAS PERIOD I.E.400AD OR 1600YRS AGO . THEY BORROWED NAGARS SCRIPT CALLED NANDI-NAGARI AND CALLED IT DEVA-NAGARI...WHEREAS TAMIL HAD SCRIPT THAT ARE CARBON DATED AS 900BC OR 2900 YEARS OLD IN ADICHANALLUR, KEELADI AND OTHER PLACES. SO ALL SANSCRIPTS ARE ONLY 1600YRS OLD AND MOST OF THEM WERE TRANSLATION FROM TAMIL....YOGA, BHARATHANATYAM, AYURVEDA, SURGERY, CHIDDHA, MATHS AND SCIENCE... IN PRESENT DAY CONTEXT MOST SANSKRIT AUTHORS ARE PLAGIARIZED AND DISHONESTLY COPIED AND TRANSLATED ..
The 11th century Kashmiri poet Bilhana compares plagiarists to daityas (anti-gods) and their attempt to steal amrita (the nectar of immortality) during the churning of the ocean. His anxiety shows through as he writes:
"साहित्यपाथोनिधिमन्थनोत्थं काव्यामृतं रक्षत हे कवीन्द्राः यदस्य दैत्या इव लुण्ठनाय काव्यार्थचौराः प्रगुणीभवन्ति ।। १.११
Listen lords of poets! Save this nectar of the ears that has arisen from the churning of the treasures of the ocean. Plagiarists, like Daityas, are smoothing it over for looting."
@@KannapiranArjunan-vm2rq You're slightly wrong. Tamil is from 5000BC and is the mother of all known languages in the modern world.
@@BadassBikerOwns Tamiks wont talk nonsense and dont beileve in puranas and above all ignore superstitions
@@KannapiranArjunan-vm2rq I agree. Tamils talk the truth only.
Curious about the audience. Students? Office staff? Doesn't look like an appropriate audience for Classical.
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