Debating Lauren Southern on immigration
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The much anticipated debate with @Lauren_Southern is here. Chat sync included. Debate was strictly on whether mass immigration is a positive or negative for the receiving country.
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I polled 1000 people, all of them love star wars, apparently everyone loves star wars.
On an unrelated note, my day at SW convention was really nice.
Jakub Mike lmao this gave me a good chuckle
@Ice Queen good quotes/grounding; tho I would update some of them (1988/1979 was 30-40 years ago), to add 'more' legitimacy
LOL!
Small Weiner Convention?
The leap to say that all people love star wars is clearly innacurate, however your poll was useful in showing that there is a following for starwars. Similarly Lauren visiting country and talking to people on the ground will be helpful to give some insight on general trends, even if it doesnt act as large scale absolute blanket truths, it gives important firsthand info that cannot be known from raw data
L: I don’t hate immigrants
D: but your book is called “I literally hate all immigrants”
L: Well obviously, it was a joke
D: How is that funny??!
I just wanna look into the camera like I’m on the office
i would say "dont we all" but conservatives exist ... sooo ...
"if it aint funny it aint a joke!!!"
@@chillmadude epic dunk, my dude
Khadi they’re invaders
Gustavo Rodriguez okay GUSTAVO RODRIGUEZ...I’m sure you wouldn’t somehow be included in that group with your Hispanic ass name but sure Tio Tom whatever you say
Two and a half hours of a white girl saying I don't want brown people live next to me in 1500 different ways.
@bearsemen is that why white people migrate to qatar, oman, bahrain?
@bearsemen uh, they are some of the richest countries in the world, and it does happen. Why do you think white people go to fucking korea or japan?
bearsemen imagine unironically thinking being historically accurate is “blaming whites” what a fucking subhuman iq take
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@@yuvraj7214 actually its mostly migrant workers who are trapped in the country mostly from a variety of african countries, south asia and otehr places of the sort
"They were speaking Indian"
-Lauren Southern, expert on culture.
@@danco.9883 Depends on what kind of Immigrants you are talking about if they are highly educated then they shouldn't have any problems integrating with the local culture. Indians i believe have a hard time integrating to foreign culture, there will not be any heightened tension with them but still. I am opposed to Mass immigration myself, as an Indian if i leave India i don't want to go somewhere where there's a lot of indians already, if i were to go somewhere and find more indians then why leave India at all.
@@AdityaSingh-uj3zz I agree with you on that but I am also not against people who want to live in communities of similar background and culture. Canada is a country of opportunities a better living standards than most countries. If I take Jagmeet Singh for example. I might not agree with most of his political views but I do respect the fact that he wants to make political moves in order to influence the canadian international policy for India. There is nothing wrong with immigrants living together as long as they adapt to the local culture and become well functioning members of society.
Aditya Singh you have to understand that most Indians especially here in Britain generally have a higher IQ and a higher income than white people. You may want to surround yourself with white people if you don’t like your culture but it can be pretty isolating especially since it’ll be difficult for you socially without people similar to you. Trust me as an immigrant myself siding with Lauren does not benefit you at all
Nda Nic most of the immigration to Canada is from the USA
@@Jaylio No not true.
But most asylum seekers cross US-Canada border illegally but 60% of immigrants are economic immigrants and they mostly come from Asia.
Lauren: show your evidence/ sources
Destiny: *shows sources*
Lauren: M A S S C O N S P I R A C Y
SHE 👏🏻 WROTE 👏🏻 A 👏🏻 BOOK 👏🏻
Let's absorb this for a moment: she was researching pertinent stats *on the fucking fly* from a Twitch streamer _AFTER_ she took the leap into writing _a fucking BOOK._
Smokeshota it’s so ironic that the comment right above yours describes you to a tee.
Smokeshota it’s hilarious that you’re the only person who liked your comment.
Smokeshota do you think when someone sites a peer reviewed study that it DOESNT have data and statistics?
@Smokeshota Clearly from this comment you are studying the stats in great detail. In between owing the libs and sounding like a hate filled cultist.
Islam is homogenous ?!?! She has literally NO idea does she ?
How can someone realistically argue that the Muslim societies, with a population of roughly 1 billion, are homogenous? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
She should tell that to an Iranian and Saudi Arabiaian and see what happens.
brown people scary
@@px7107 those lyrics really hit
“homo jean e us”
never mind sunis, shias, solaffi, wahabbi, eastern orthodox, western unorthodox, etc...
She just keeps changing the subject and this guy has to chase her around from topic to topic.
How to debunk Lauren Southern
Read her sources
BlueGallade475 she’s tryna be the female Sargon of Akkad
@@aworldtowin955 trying to be? She is bruh
As Shaun has done time after time!
Southern keeps letting go of all her arguments one by one and never actually coming back to any of them. She's like "ah shit, throw it overboard" and goes to the next prepared talking point, eventually just arriving at "but muh scary immigrants aren't they scary".
So you live with immigrants?
@Vlavitir glutginskiya i live in europe, this doesn't check out. don't believe everything you read
@Vlavitir glutginskiya pay no attention to the right wing psychopaths shooting up schools, churches and mosques...
Kanimo24, No, pay plenty of attention please. Cause verses effect. Psychopaths supported by the left begat psychopaths on the right.
@@glennbaier6264 yes yes, keep blaming the left for right wing fascist psychopaths. :^)
Listening to her laugh reminds me of some rich white woman swirling a glass of wine in her hand and scoffing at the notion of equality.
Maybe because that is exactly what is happening.
OMG... I hear it too!
What's wrong with that exactly? Does it matter what sex or race or how much money someone has? Everyone should know that equality doesn't and hasn't ever existed in the world and most likely never will. I don't like her either but these kinds of comments give the world cancer my guy.
@@GreenLightningHood It is not about that. The comment implies she has no idea what she is talking about because she was priviledged her whole life.
@@nosteinnogate7305 Totally agree, chief
LOL, conservative right-winger doesn't want to talk about economics. Ok then.
Lauren "Brown people are scary" southern is a white nationalist.
she's a fascist. They typically see global market economics as "jewy."
@@michaelsieger9133 the irony is Lauren southern own grandparents were jews fleeing the Nazis during ww2. Now Lauren is a nazi herself.
@@Yes_Fantasy_419 do you have proof of something as her admitting to your accusation?
@@michaelsieger9133 fascism and communism has gone hand in hand in history.
Imagine if Lauren Southern wasn't hot
😂😂😂 you bad for that
She’s decent at best in terms of her looks. Sounds like a man.
I don't have to imagine
she’s not really good looking tbh
exactly !! just looked at her subscriber number and thought , HOW?!?!?
10:15 in and I am already laughing about Lauren. Crime in Germany increased 30+%?! What the hell is she talking about. We have the lowest crime numbers since reunification. Germany is fine, thx for asking.
I think some dipshit argued that the decrease in crime is due to the higher population, which in turn means that crime in absolute numbers has actually risen. Which is naturally nonsense, there is a reason why we measure crime per capita.
What rose were crimes which are directly connected to the process of crossing a border to ask for asylum (since it is technically an illegal border crossing, but unlike the US, Germany doesn't really make a distinction there) and petty theft (which, yeah, if happens if people have walked through Europe and are suddenly confronted with Supermarkets which are overflowing with stuff). It was a temporary bump but if you look at the long time trend, our crime rate is lower than it was since the 1990s. Little to worry about, other than idiots who attack other idiots over nothing.
Reina Source? Because no, crime in Germany has not risen. Especially not "significantly".
@Truthtold lol a guy who tries to steal votes from nationalistic partys says immigration is a problem. What a coincidence.
@Truthtold That was the argument equivalent of shitting your pants and walking away. You couldn't make a coherent point if you tried.
"These laws were created by the Supreme Court not by americans"
What nationality does she think the Supreme Court is?
French?
LMFAO
You're not a very deep thinker are you?
I'm just watching this debate. PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASE tell me she didn't actually make that argument? Cause that's actually retarded
@@KiraDaBeastNY Do you know the difference between the Supreme court and a referendum?
That's weird. I didn't know the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was established by the supreme court. It's almost like representatives of the US codified protected classes.
Lauren Southern: "I used to watch anime when I was younger but I haven't in a long time."
Me: That's why she's fucked up. Never stop watching anime folks.
@I Am Chubby It's towards the end, I don't have the energy to go back and get the exact time stamp. But she's posted sexy pics of her with anime shit and she doesn't even watch it, and Destiny asked her about it. I really hate that she talks about dressing modest and shit but then uses the "sexy nerd" archetype just to manipulate her fan base. I wouldn't mind it if she wasn't preaching to girls to be modest, but it's hypocritical AND disingenuous. She makes me wanna vomit 🤢🤮
Wait ....is that what u took out of that lol i guess tho maybe lol
@@komlat253 Anime heals your soul.
@@komlat253 it's sadly rather common.
The "fake geek girl" meme didn't come out of nowhere.
Sure, it was overused like every other meme, but it's based on the sad fact that scammers are ready to exploit gullible people with money.
Hive Atlas Anime can cure Lauren Southern of her views.
Lauren: Immigration is bad
Destiny: Why?
Lauren: They don't assimilate
Destiny: What if they do assimilate?
Lauren: That'd be fine - but they cant.
Destiny: Here is proof that they have and can assimilate.
Lauren: *surprised pikachu face* You're wrong because I have anecdotes.
Destiny: Here are real stats.
Lauren: It's all a conspiracy.
Destiny just gets confused and tries to show her each of her stages are wrong in vain.
We've had immigration here for a while in Sweden. A danish guy burned a Koran a few days ago. Now we've had protests with vandalism, car burnings, assaults against the police, ect. The assimilation into the "free world" is going great! They love freedom of speech!
Thanks for helping me win this game of "spot the racist".
@@alecdejongh5008 I never said anything bad about anyones race. Islam is a religion, in other words a set of ideas, not a skin color. Must be incredible having the same argument "Racist" to literally every fucking statement for years, in many chases where it makes zero sense. Don't have to use your brain, just put the other person on the defense. Thanks for showing everyone there is no substance to what you are saying.
Given you've interacted with me... once. And you think the only argument I've used for years is calling someone a racist. Says a lot more about you than about me. I'm not and never have been saying every immigrant assimilates. I'm saying that assimilation is possible. Expecially given the bit I was satirising where race was explicitly involved. Using the term "they" to counter it kinda makes you look like a racist. My cousin shares all the views you have espoused. He is half Iranian, half American and lives in the UK. If he can have the same anti immigrant views you do ngl I think he would have integrated by your standards. Also calling people stupid because you can't articulate yourself just makes you look bad man. If you use the word they without clarifying I, and the rest of the English speaking population of planet earth, will assume you're continuing to talk about the same issue mentioned above. Which was in reference to the great replacement. Something overtly about race. Needless to say some people in the group do bad things so whole group can not assimilate is one of the most fucking stupid thing of all times. Men have a higher chance of suicide. Doesn't mean suicide is the fault of men.
@@Surtur99 You mean like when a guy in Russia got offended for playing pokemon go in a church? You know, because he broke the law about not hurting the feelings of believers?
I would laugh awkwardly too if I realized my entire ideology and career is a joke.
Then start laughing :) Whats the matter?
Like liberalism...
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@@bibliotecas69 liberalism brought us the modern world
Chill
@@devcron7041 i agree
"Christians have never had problems with radical terrorism."
Oh, so what was that thing in Belfast in the 90s? I wonder why Northern Irland wasnt more of a tourist destination back in the day?
@Vlavitir glutginskiya Religious conflicts are never just about religion. There is always a political motivation. You think ISIS would no longer have a problem with "the West" if the US/Europe/Canada became majority muslim over night? You think religous ferver wasn't used to galvanize the conflict in Ireland? The IRA carried out attacks in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands. Maybe it wasn't quite as global as terrorism is today, but it wasn't confined to Northern Ireland.
@Vlavitir glutginskiya islamic people are the main victims of isis...so religion isn't everything.
@Vlavitir glutginskiya actually that's not true at all, there is plenty of Christian religious attack in the past 50 years; look at LRA, God's Army and various militant groups in India. Wasn't it Bush who also bombed in the name of God?
I'm Irish and the IRA were political not religious ... they never cited religion as their motive!
@Vlavitir glutginskiya Well said!
i mean my family moved from sudan to canada and the only reason we decide to live in "ghettozised" areas where most arabs live is that we are new to the culture and dont feel comfortable interacting a lot with the canadians in fear that we might do something wrong without knowing. these areas are not to unite muslims in an area against natives or something its for us not to feel alone and finding ppl and communities that understands us well
Yes! I am a many generations Canadian and I keep pointing out that perhaps if we were more welcoming of newcomers in "our neighbourhoods" they would not feel the need to settle amongst themselves.
And I also point out that if we moved to another country and found an enclave of english speaking Canadians, we would probably settle there.
And...I always point out that although many first generation immigrants may not speak english fluently, their children always do once they have grown up here.
Welcome...and I hope you and your family are feeling more and more at home in Canada with each passing year.
Ayyyeee my sudanese brother 🇸🇩!
You dont have to justify that, every single immigration movement did the same thing, how people think places like Chinatown exist?
That's cultural though. My family immigrated to the UK from sub Saharan Africa. I'm sub Saharan African and was top of my biology and chemistry classes and was one of the best in mathematics. Gcse through to A level. My dad studied in Scotland and was literally the only person doing his job. We lived in the north of England. Never actually travelled to London. No one talks about how IQ is rising the fastest in Africa while most other areas remain stagnant. We lived in an almost entirely white area no issues. I have also anecdotally found that I have a better command of the English language than alot of natives. I experienced this through university aswell and I was in stem.
That is always the immigrant story. Look at the American colony in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Why are Americans living together! Why don't they integrate!!!!
Every right winger: “I’m happy to talk about xyz”
*proceeds to not talk about thing they said they’d talk about*
They move the goalposts so much you're always talking about something other than the topic.
seems projective from both sides. they all are idiots.
Alex m I disagree. I think there are reasonable people on both sides. But when you get that far on the spectrum, people are too stuck in they’re ways to speak rationally and acknowledge fault
@@jarrettchrist fair on your point but I think that the irony is that they can mirror or be similar when doing extreme things when off the spectrum as the term "2 sides of the same coin". The biggest hurdle is that both are in denial of it despite Hegelianism being the founder for influence for both sides that involved levels of extremism from socialism to communism and finally fascism.
Great generalization my dude
Did she say that data is the plural of anecdote?
P*Philosophy of course it is. Unless lefties think that, than it’s ridicioulus.
@@LoLchilled09 No, you need more than anecdotes to consider it data. If I find one thousand instances of people saying "God visited me in my sleep", does that count as data?
@@pphilosophy2156 damn. That was a short debate. Neigh- argument. You were just right no debate necessary. 👏✨👏Noice.
How much control must be enforced on the information being collected before it is considered data? It seems most politically relevant information is collected outside of a lab, so should it all be considered anecdotal?
@@pphilosophy2156 yes it does count as data. unverified data. now get down of your high horse mr. philosophy
"Name me a Christian country that has that as law.."
Uganda.
+
Name me a Christian country, frankly
@thematic Key Largo, Montego, baby why don't we go
But thats where black people live and nobody cares about them /s
Khat Daym this chick is racist!
I’ve tried to listen to this on two occasions, but I can’t get halfway because Southern’s stupidity hurts.
Her laughing sends a shiver down my spine. She is full of hate.
She’s a terrible, stupid narcissist of a human being. She might actually be my least favorite internet presence. Couldnt make it halfway either. Lol
I will never understand the “everyone needs to be like me” view and feeling. Just leave me alone i dont give a shit what race, gender, religion you are. She is so threatened by anyone not white Christian. Scared to death these people
Fear mongering at its finest.
you understand it when it comes to ethical issues.
you want everyone to not be a savage killer.
you just don't see immigration as an ethical issue.
I actually enjoy the diversity of thought. It leads to great conversations
I think it's funny she always asks Uber drivers where they're from; because here in the US, Uber drivers have often asked me where I'm from, even though I was born here, lol.
I'm a Christian American, but I wonder if Lauren would assume I'm a non-Christian immigrant -- just because I'm not white?
Because the people who come here still have in group preference while White Americans are individualistic, they can vote in policies that harm Whites
Lauren Southern be like:
Anecdotes? Fact.
Opinion? Fact.
My impression of that one part of that one city in that one country? Fact.
Data? "Just so you know, a lot of these are covered up."
And they said blonde jokes were just jokes
Funny to see a commonly liberal form of debate used by a conservative against Destiny of all people
@Momonari its spread to both sides now 😠
@@brandonkey181 Nah, some liberals use this type of logic from time to time, but conservatives have almost trademarket this tipe of delusion by now, hell, conservatism itself it's just a big appeal to emotion instead of facts.
Joel Costa well like they could be, people can manipulate any data or anything haven’t watched it yet but just a normal basis. Like some data might not cover specifics it might be on a broad range
She's not a real blond
31 seconds into the video...
Lauren: "99% of uber drivers in Toronto are middle eastern that's just how it is in Toronto"
Destiny: "Cool so immigrants are allowing you to take advantage of this service"
Lauren: "Yeah but there's plenty of Canadians that could take these jobs look at Alberta"
Me: Are you sure you live in Canada Lauren? Go ask an Albertan if they want to move to Toronto to drive a fucking uber. Get real lol. Most wouldn't even want to move to Toronto to be a CEO unless they had family there.
Drew K why does she assume that someone of middle eastern heritage ... ain’t Canadian though ?
there aren't even that many arabs in toronto lol - iirc it's barely 1%. i've also used uber here an absurd amount of times throughout most of the boroughs and have barely met any arabs. high majority for me have been south asian and afro, next far-easterners, then caucasians, and finally arabs and hispanics at the bottom. obv purely anecdotal, but i fail to see how she openly claims that the high majority are arabs, unless she's mosque hopping on her days off.
@@TheOmniform Partially depends on the neighbourhood, but downtown I agree those demographics sound right.
I suspect Lauren, though she'd deny this to no end I'm sure, subconsciously associates "brown = arab."
I think a better way to look at this would be to look at people's mother tongues to get a better idea of just how widespread a "problem" this supposed flood of arabic immigrants really is.
According to StatsCan (pulled from the wikipedia page below) those who report arabic as their mother tongue make up 1% of the population of the GTA, which is 1/4th of those who report Mandarin OR Cantonese. In fact, more people report Russian than Arabic. But I don't see her freaking out about either of those.
In fact, as far as ethnic origins and their increase or decrease as a share of the population of the GTA goes, folk of Chinese descent have far outpaced any Arabic regions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto
@@TheOmniform we have 5% Muslim population in the UK. It's grown 10 times faster than rest of the population. We have 1500 members of isis in Britain. It's not a problem for me where I live. But there is no disputing that they have set up enclaves in places like Bradford. You can be as fundammenal in your Islamic beliefs as you want as long as you don't incite violence and you obey the law. But on top of that coeshion is important but I have no idea how you would enforce it. It's a toughie. I also find that a lot of 2nd generation Muslims I know (I know anecdotal it's meaningless but I'll day it anyway) are much more engrained in British values then older people who tend to struggle with the language.
If it wasn't for a European then Uber wouldn't exist. The founders of Uber was a Canadian and an American. Definitely not immigrants.
49:30 I did exactly what Lauren said and googled “one euro jobs Germany”.
It brought up an article that confirmed
1) this program was devised over a decade ago and had nothing to do with refugees at the time (it was designed to help the long-term unemployed, and it failed at that task regardless of refugees)
2) the only criticism of the program is that it is not robust enough to help refugees enter the job market
"Data is the plural of anecdotes"
- Lauren Southern, Rational Intellectual, 2017.
Based on her having a 2 digit IQ
Entirely true statement in anthropology, sociology, etc.
@@k3nny111 no. Anecdotes typically suffer from selection bias. Collecting data implies seeking to avoid bias.
@@theophilegaudin2329 The notion of data bias as a disqualifying factor comes from a post-positivist framework, basically, talking about statistics. (Oversimplifying things, but, close enough.)
Constructivist research, like is common in anthropology and ethnographic research, acknowledges the potential impact of bias, but still absolutely takes 'anecdotes' seriously as a basis for research.
"I went to a place and I spoke with a bunch of people" works as a research methodology that gets you published, in the right field. It's called convenience sampling. You have to account for the possibility of bias in who you speak with, but it doesn't invalidate your research, at worst its a limitation.
The idea that going to a place and speaking with people on the ground is a less valid way to investigate the truth of a matter than going through statistics, if we're talking about a social issue, is a very strange take.
@@k3nny111 I think that we are talking past each other.
Case studies are a useful way to assess a subject. They don't replace large scale data analysis. It's simply a different thing. I'm not saying that anecdotes cannot have value when researched and analyzed properly.
What remains a problem is when someone (like Lauren in that debate) thinks that piling up videos out of context is equivalent to collecting data from a variety of sources. Viewing 1, 10, or 100 videos with migrant boats is not going to convince me that there is a migrant invasion. Data is not the plural of anecdotes.
the debate that saved a life
@youtubeShadowBan my wife's children*
Libtard destroyed successfully.
@youtubeShadowBan Wow, you got his joke all on your own. Proud of you man.
@youtubeShadowBan POOGERS
@@xatnu actually it was pretty funny. Of course the leftards in here wouldn't think so though
she contradicts herself alot
Like where?
@@fu6817 every where.
BS
Lauren should listen to Ben Shapiro's advice of "facts don't care about your feelings". In fact, Ben himself should heed that advice.
Darkrider TRUUUUE
This is such an underrated comment
Ben's still trying to come to terms with the fact he's under 5 feet tall.
helium boy shapiro should stop inhaling helium
I think all politicians should either heed that or throw it away, since emotion is a constant even in policies
She thinks the BBC is left wing. That's almost as funny as Ben Shapiro thinking Andrew Neil is a liberal.
The overton window has moved so far to the right that anything else is considered "left wing". I facepalm so hard when people call Obama, CNN WaPo, Hillary, etc "left wing" or even "far left". I'm actually a leftist and everything like that is far to the right of me. Democrats are typically just Republicans with slightly more progressive social policy.
@@darkrider962 Yeah, exactly
to be fair ben Shapiro fucked up Andrew Neil’s constant stupidity
I’m sure there are people who work at the BBC laugh at the name.
That was my favorite part
I live in Luton, I've had far more issues with drunk Irishmen/English than Muslims. Unless of course you count eating a dodgy samosa as an issue.
Skare75 and even then, I’m pretty sure samosas are Indian lol
@@bennybyers1409 Haha, well Pakistan, Bangladesh and India were a single country not too long ago
Skare75 my history and geography are shit. My b
@@bennybyers1409 samosas actually originated in Persia. But the subcontinent is a melting pot of world cultures as a result of which it is impossible and often unnecessary to track such origins.
Skare75 far more drunken English men than Irishmen
All of Lauren Southern ‘s arguments: Blame, blame, blame, blame, blame, blame.
You have no say you're a geek channel gtfo.
Blame blame blame where the blame needs to be
A Canadian telling English people what goes on in England - makes perfect sense
max's interlude guess no British person can read statistics on US gun crime and provide commentary on it..... what a stupid comment.
You do know Great Britain is part of Canada’s I believe they still have territory the queen rules it.
Alex chavez other way around, the queen is still technically the monarch of most of the anglophone world.
MyNameIsJ3ff well not true it’s the Roman Catholic Church man that’s in power the pope.
Alex chavez I’m having trouble following what you’re saying? The Queen of England is not the technical head of state of many countries that are no longer under the jurisdiction of the UK because the pope of the Catholic Church is a man?
Lauren talks like she thinks culture is static.
She really, really wants it to be. Why she will always lose
since it can be categorized and distinguished from one another it is to a degree static. Is that so hard to understand?
what she really means when she says culture is "race". thats probably why
luna li I wish she would just say it instead of being a weasely fuck
86Corvus you should rename yourself 86corpse considering how braindead your takes are
Also, I thought Lauren wanted to be a housewife and mother later in her life... but she's calling parents who have a lot of kids 'lazy'.
because they are unlike lauren whos hard working doing work exposing South African white genocide
Gustavo Rodriguez what a waste of time, it’s not happening
When you realize lauren's entire stance is born from not getting hired to pick berries.
"They were speaking Indian"
Imagine thinking a massive, diverse country, with countless languages within it, speaks one sole language called "Indian" and expect that anyone will take you seriously as an expert on immigration policies.
Bihas 23 I lived in Surrey and its literally a fine place to live she’s on that Tana Mongeau level of exaggerating fr everyone speaks English literally everyone and its not just indians its a diverse place with everyone including white people so
@@bimbowithadegree420 i dk why that made me laugh so hard ... if u cant name one Indian language besides the name of the country then u are most definitely not qualified to speak about "culture " like she says she s in to
Omg I lmao, "speaking Indian" 😆🤣😂
You Mean Hindi theres a thousand languages in India. Before partition and independence back from the British Empire. Hindi Urdu Bengali Punjabi. English or British English. Lauren sounds like Brtish Officer statesman missionaries during India rule as Brtish colony from 1757 to 1947 that doesn't know about the languages Spoken in India. So she mixes them together. That's like saying German language and Greek are the same because there both white.
For her to think that Americans wouldn't discriminate if they could is literally insane.
For real. Before watching this I spent two hours in awe of r/beholdthemasterrace and all the durpy racist deplorables that exist in the US around the world.
Or anybody from any country, really, as much as it pains me to say it. You would THINK we would have ridden ourselves of that unfortunate tendency by now... -_-
But I have no doubt that, one day, we will all be rid of all cognitive biases & discriminatory leanings & whatnot. ^_^ In the meantime, there will always be kind, good-hearted, tolerant, accepting people to counteract the discriminatory ones. :-)
If you're referring to business, they wouldn't be in business for very long. If I find out my favorite restaurant doesn't serve black people, I'm not going there.
@@VincenzoGCosta Yeah one person less may not make that big of a difference. Huge areas of the south, and hell almost everywhere else in rural areas, could easily get away with it and maintain solid business. There is still a lot of racist people who would not just be okay with it, but would be happy about it. Add in a lot of apathy, and they'll continue. It's messed up, but I really think in many places across the country businesses could stay in business if racial discrimination were legal. Hopefully we'll get to the point where that's not the case, but the laws will probably remain regardless.
I completely agree with her.
Some would- very few- and it would be their loss.
Would you? No you wouldn’t- but you think you’re special right?
You aren’t as special as you think.
Ugh, people like her... They assume the data backs up their claims without ever looking. Then they assume a conspiracy when they look at the data and see how it isn't inline with their ideology.
How about going out on the streets that are affected by mass immigration instead of thinking that some phoney statistics are worth more than the real world?
@A MAD TEDDY BEAR Your comment proves that you’re an anti-white, pro-islamic racist just like Destiny. Probably living in the whitest area possible to stay completely unaffected of the consequences of the policy you are promoting. You don’t see the problem if you are part of it.
@@SilverWave64 most of the Migrants speak German or English, have a job or are have an education. stfu American
@@SilverWave64 how does saying statistics r more reliable prove hes anti white etc? Lmfao, this is the exact reverse where if someone isnt far left they're called a nazi that u guys love to complain about, yes, statistics r undeniably more factual than going and talking to people, it doesnt matter how white ur neighborhood is, the world isnt what u solely see
@FlyingFlamingFlamingos He said it himself over and over again in various videos that he wants the white population to decline, whites to be discriminated against in the job market, whites to not have children,etc. And no, stats don’t show how badly affected people are. And if you only believe statistics, it’s super obvious that the white population is declining and will go extinct if nothing happens. It’s super obvious that “diverse” areas in major European cities have more violent crime. Again - ask anyone who lives there! Destiny says “No talking to people doesn’t mean anything” instead of giving her an actual argument. I am so glad that Lauren and especially Mr Metokur obliterated him on his anti-white racism, so much that he was near crying at the end. He is a racist extremist and I am so glad that most people, especially those who are affected by the policy he promotes, see that.
Why did she go for a Starcraft analogy? It doesn’t even fit her argument
Tin foil conspiracy theorist gotta satisfy that gamer base
asdf 1234 lmao
She’s a gamer that used to cosplay a lot, and her older sister is a cosplayer herself.
@@sivasiva-jl5tc Fuck anime you fucking weeb.
Some random dude To make her answer as confusing as possible- The alt-right use Deflection, Distraction & Denial to avoid factually and logically addressing the faults in their arguments
destiny, i live near surrey, the city she's talking about around 1:37:30 and let me tell you, everyone there speaks english. I mean they mainly speak hindi to one another but you can easy speak english with them, they are all fluent. She's flat out lying to you
Josh Traill Also, I live in Luton and holy shit I didn’t get the memo about these huge ghettos and sharia law enforcements.
Lol I am from Surrey. I am Indian origin, i only speak Punjabi if someone is new to the country and they need help on finding a boss stop or something, the other 99 percent of the time I am speaking English.
Because he didn't want to. Simple as that.
The world really isnt that black and white. You can't just "make a country great"In many countries socio economic status isnt as malleable as you think it is nor is living in abject poverty for the sake of "making your country great" a pragmatic decision.
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead We fucked India hard. We owe them. If they want to come here and make a name for themselves there's no need to put them down.
"You're 21 with no Econ degree!" I don't have a dog in this fight but that amount of condescension from her and Destiny's rebuttal was hilarious.
I tried, but she's so pretentious, and so condescending that I couldn't finish the vid. She is ungodly obnoxious.
Her stuck up dismissing little side chuckle makes me want to strangle her.
@Linus Wang Nah. I've had conversations with people that I disagreed with vehemently that I actually enjoyed. This chick is just obscenely unpleasant.
WeAreN1nja , huh , I think Lauren is smart and informed 👍🏻 I also now see Destiny is informed , I’m not holding it against him that he’s a SJW 😜✌🏻
Your comment is literally everyone who isn't sucking Destiny's dick.. pretentious and condescending.
@Linus Wang he's never right when he talks immigration. Destiny's stance is every white country must surrender to everyone from Africa and Central/South America. Our countries are now theirs. That's Destiny's immigration plan for us. Sounds really smart...no I'm sure my children will love growing up in a hispanic country.
I like how Lauren keeps talking about 'native populations'. Is she aware that there is an entire population of Native Americans living in the United States, and she is not one?
Well, it happened because European diseases wiped out ~ >90% of the native population, which destabilized the continent's political spheres. What remained were used one-against-the-other by European powers, and then those that were so-called allies of said powers were subsequently betrayed, and by then the combination of the above put the natives at a significant numerical and technological disadvantage.
So yeah, the analogy would be apt, if you thought the immigrants coming to "the west" were a) bringing a super-deadly pandemic that'd wipe out the vast majority of "natives", and b) were wielding laser rifles and personal defense energy shields.
Yes, and there was a population here before the "Native Americans".
@@daddyrabbit835 What?
@@daddyrabbit835
And that was....
No. I can promise you she has not spent a second in her life reflecting upon that fact. About this I am certain.
BTW I've lived in Dubai, there is a transgender / gay Filipino worker in EVERY SINGLE BARBER SHOP I VISITED...EMPLOYEES that work legally in the country
they were abviously fucking closeted
what the fuck are you talking about
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
stop downplaying islam you piece of shit
@@oxitocin7718 yeah men that wear mascara and lip gloss are closeted...why don't you shut the fuck up you little bitch, you don't know shit, you've probably never left your room.
Anecdotes... was that the takeaway?
@@jacobjanek9244 her whole argument is built on false anecdotes. The main takeaway about this human piece of garbage (Southern) is that she's trying to make a name for herself by telling people to fear minorities based on false information..I've checked out several videos she made, all of which are built on lies and fabrications on religious and societal matters she clearly knows nothing about. One example is that she goes around claiming that women can't drive in Muslim countries, this was the case in Saudi Arabia, 1 out of maybe 40 Muslim countries, same thing applies to Sharia punishments (which aren't enforced in the vast majority of Muslim countries), she maliciously blows things out of proportion to ostracize minorities.
God she is mind numbing, a walking alt right conspiracy generator
You are just a dumbass reactionary.
@@felixmeyer8381 triggered?
"Most Uber drivers in Toronto are middle eastern"
Yeah, I can tell you that is categorically false
She probably can't differentiate between South Asians and Middle Easterners.
@@Sami-yh5nh too be fairrrrrrr lol.jk. yea her eye sight is racist lol
She says she asks their drivers where they come from...
@@angelgodplace and when they answer Morocco, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan.. she writes it down as "Middle East"😂😂😂
Now, I fundamentally disagree with Lauren, I believe by the way your statement came across and the video you're watching you and I would agree in more ways then not politically and socially and, finally, I don't live in Toronto to back up or dispute your point.
That all being said, your comment was the perfect opportunity to bring in an investigated, reliable and cross checked source. Because if I wasn't any of the above, and you made that statement in a debate or indeed as a point, I could easily snap back, "Well, where is your source? And how do you know? Are you an expert on the background of every Uber driver?"
Not that that's wholly necessary on a RUclips comment, I would agree, but I think it's important if you try and dispute someone's point. :)
Going into this debate I was on Lauren Southerns side, by thirty minutes in I found myself agreeing with Destiny.
Hopefully you found your way back afterwards. There are plenty of things to take into consideration. But i'll admit that it seemed like Destiny did pretty well in the start.
Nah miss Southern gets shut down. She's terrible at debating
Welcome back mate ^^
That's great. I hope you questioned your beliefs and found a better solution. I'd never realised there were so many white nationalists around, but it makes sense. The Civil Rights movements and other progressive legislative improvements were hard-won victories, and worth fighting for, but the people who opposed such things didn't simply disappear, and a majority of them didn't change their minds, either.
They just waited for their opportunity and that's where we are right now. It's sad, but I don't believe that you can get rid of irrational racism. People will always hate and fear those they don't understand, particularly these days when you can pick and choose what media you want, and will do so based upon how well they pander to your pre-existing views and prejudices. It's just a feedback loop of being told that your opinions are right, over and over.
Lord Clown LMAO its funny how hopeful you are
Lauren Southern's racism - how ever thinly veiled - was baked into her by her father. She suggested as much on her Rubin Report appearance and she's just confirmed as much now.
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead
Keep telling yourself that. Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in order to make you at peace with your racism.
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead 😂😂😂😂
...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead you sure it was racism and not education, technology, government, advancements in agriculture? Not everyone is racist at hearts just racists. Dumb fuck.
We also didn't evolve to have high IQs. You can tell which among us still don't because they insist on living like xenophobic cavemen.
Nah just tribalists. Racism became a thing with colonization
Being ignorant is one thing.. being ignorant AND very confident? Yikes
59:30 lol she gets so flustered from a confirmation bias accusation. she's so disingenous
She already lost when she said that she wants to talk culture and not economics
economics are downstream from culture.
86Corvus nope infact good arguments can be made for the inverse
@@n8m102 I'd rather even lose a couple dollars than lose my culture. Money/economic benefit does'nt outweigh losing your culture...
Luka Cako I’m pretty sure people living in section 8 housing aren’t worried about “muh culture “
@@n8m102 I am a leftist but multiculturalism seems crappy tbh. I am sure people in section 8 housing do not like sharia law or islamization.
As a german, im offended by the false facts she is stating about Germanys "refugee crisis"...
Nice virtue signalling. Were you hoping for a pat on the back?
@@frankatwood3095 Nope, but have a nice day.
@@unravelunravel8434 Who's a good German? Yes, who's a good German? *pat pat*
@@frankatwood3095 Well its annoying if someone misrepresents your country to make a wrong point.
There are no nogo zones in Germany
Marxlau which she mentions has had a lot of Roma for years that didnt assimilate well way before the Syrians came etc.
@@frankatwood3095 Is that all you have left? No facts, only feels smh
_I'm not a white supremacist -- I just want to defend _*_Western values._*
🐶 😗🎶
Western value = Freedom to believe what you want, freedom to say what you want and general freedom from opression.
@@kalleom1359 I'm curious, where did Western Values originate. Did it spring from one general location or did gradually evolve over time from many? Could you say there is a single nation that has better western values, or do you think they are just different variants of the same thing?
@@cf3714 I don't believe such a thing exists really. That's just what I think he meant. Generalizations of freedoms we generally have in succesful European countries compared to, well, countries one propably doesn't want to move into.
@@kalleom1359 I've always wondered what the moderate view of "Western Values" is. I know that racists use it for melanin content, but I cannot find anyone who can give a good definition that didn't rely on race. Thanks for answering.
@@cf3714 Read some John Locke. that would be a good start.
The thing that really irks me the most about this debate with Islam is how every single Alt-righter and every single everyone always, always, ALWAYS ignores Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism. You want the explanation behind why Islam became more violent in the second half of the 20th century when it was following the same secularization route as the rest of the world until the US not only bowed down to Saudi oil interests and allowed them to push their ideology all over the world and cause this fucking mess.
The reformation of Christianity had NOTHING to do with making it less violent or dangerous. It simply caused a breakup with the Roman Catholic church. I don't know much about it since the last time I studied the reformation was back in high school. But I'm pretty confident was that it wasn't that Christianity was changed, but simply that the church's grasp on government and people's daily lives was lessened. Nothing about the actual religion changed at all.
If you want to follow that trail, then Islam HAS been reformed by Wahhabism. Wahhabism would still be the religious pariah of the world and it's followers seen as heretics by mainstream Muslims if it wasn't for the continual US support during the Cold War (and to this day). You want Muslims to be secular and more western-like? Get rid of Saudi Arabia and stop overthrowing secular regimes. The situation in the Middle East is almost entirely the fault of British and American interventionism since WW2.
And all of these are facts.
Hotshotter3000 you're spot on. Not often that anyone who talks about Islam even knows what Wahhabism is... Which means they aren't really well qualified to talk about it because they view Islam as some giant monolith without any variations. It's quite maddening. You seem to understand US "foreign policy" and how it has utterly destroyed the Middle East and egged on terrorism as a result. The US needs to withdraw from the Middle East and stop funding "moderate Rebels," who are terrorists only by another name. And yet Bolton, Trump, and Netanyahu are eager to invade Iran. It's very concerning.
It's not often you find a comment like yours on RUclips. Thanks pal.
Since WW1 actually.
Trump now loves saudi arabia and his fans dont give a fuck
Well said sir..👍👍
Hotshotter3000 dude man, the reformation changed a lot about Christianity (maybe not the difference between Lutheranism and Catholicism) but the reformation did change a lot
Like the Protestant churches theirs no saints and no pope while there is in Catholicism and there are a lot more theocratic debates between the denominations that can’t be simplified in one comment
But because the reformation removed a human leader and made it more individual it reduced the violence in Christianity because there is no More an individual (the pope) that can tell all who follow Jesus to go kill this group of people without there being major backlash from all the other denominations
"I'm not necessarily OK with bombing hospitals and schools." - Lauren Southern 2017
This is what public discourse has devolved into. Where the fuck's that third ice age!? Just take us out already!!
So the Palestinians should just get a free pass for launching mortars into suburban areas and using their own sick people as human shields? How deluded do you have to be to think this is tenable?
Ryu Campaert The Palestinian people would be a more free and more prosperous people if they just gave up their dated notions of nationalism and religious zealotry. Just look at the Arabs who live in Tel Aviv. If Palestinians were left to their own devices, the country of Israel would look more like Jordan. Some inefficient and mismanaged despot. Also, minority and LGBT rights are much more protected in Israel than in Palestine and the Arab world. You have to think of everyone else that would be effected if you gave the government over to the Palestinians. Also, what do you propose happen to:
1.) the Jews that lived their before the establishment of Israel?
2.) The Jews who were born in Israel recently?
Here’s the fact, most Israelis are actually for a 2 state solution with defensible borders. It is the Palestinians who are unplaceable and want to “push us into the Sea” as Arafat once said.
Oldteach74 so what are you implying? That we’re both victims of the propaganda we gravitate to? Or are you under the assumption that a movement, largely funded and supported by radical Islamists, is an objective and fair actor in the geopolitical altercation? I would be for the Palestinian cause if it wasn’t ladened with religious fundamentalism (That’s how it was in the 1960-70s and I am more sympathetic to that iteration of Palestinian resistance when it was more secular). The current dynamic involves two oppressive ideologies (of varying degree) battling each other for dominance. My stance is the Israelis seem to be more competent and respect pluralism and secularism more as opposed to the Arab world. I think our relationship with Israel needs to be reeled back, but I don’t think Israel is the most evil country in the world as some leftist morons do. What makes what Israel is doing to the West Bank any different than what Turkey is doing to Cyprus or the Kurdish situation?
@@MyNameIsJ3ffrey
1) I think you meant to say deluded.
2) Google up "Tu Quoque" fallacy, cause you're a lovely textbook example of it.
Andrés Real My argument isn’t, “the Palestinians do it to, so therefore Israel is righteous or blameless”. So I don’t see how that’s an appeal to hypocrisy. Based on my comparative analysis, If the Palestinians had as much power as the Israelis, at this current moment in time, the Palestinians in power would be a much more sub-optimal situation as compared to the inverse. There’s is less of a will to compromise on the Palestinian side. As someone who actually lived there (lived in Jordan for 2 years which is pretty much 50% Palestinian), most of these people don’t want a two state solution. They would rather reduce their life to rubble and die trying to essentially ethnically cleanse the Levant of Jews than concede a little bit of pride and settle for a two state solution and actually make a concerted effort for peace. There was a Palestine in 1967, then they with the Arab world invaded Israel and lost pretty much all their territory. Although they had the technological and numerical advantage, they lost. They need to learn to accept history and quit with the militantism. If that stopped, you would see a restoration of civil life in Palestine.
It's amazing how someone who presents themselves well and argues in a seemingly critical and stat driven way can argue that qualitative non-peer reviewed non-representative conversations can be at all indicative of ANYTHING. How can people consider Lauren Southern a legitimate speaker for the right? She doesn't even show an A-level understanding of sociology. Feels>Facts god damn.
Yes, my ween loving friend. Sadly it's these racists who have the most media coverage
She has tits and a pretty face. That's it.
They don't give a shit about anything else.
why does she talk about Trump like she actually votes or has anything to do with policy in the USA? She says "us" and "we" a lot to not live here.
It's painful listening to Lauren, dude. No logic, nothing at all, just generalizations after generalizations.
Also lol, she thinks Bernie ideas aren't mainstream. That's cute.
Know much about Europe do you?Stop talking "generalisations" when you have fucking no idea what you are talking about!
you are just a pure racist
+Anthony Williams racist, hmmm, do you mean "realist"? every thing I said can be backed up with endless amounts of facts/data/stats to back it all up. what did I say that you believe is incorrect?
first of all your stats dont explore countries like nigeria or cities like lagos, abuja where im from, and i dont know how you went about concluding that all black people are detrimental to the world at large when a lot of them pursue positions that do not put them in any position to affect any type o economic change.also just because you make a somewhat true statement doesnt mean that you also cant make statements that are ill mannered and simultaneously unfactual in nature
M.C. Sickle Cell Some black guy has obviously scarred you.
Destiny: you can't discriminate on the basis of race, gender, religion, or the fact has or doesn't have kids.
Lauren: i don't agree with that. 43:30
And they wonder why people call them either intolerant or racist and the like... To quote the dumb conservative Jesse Lee Peterson "Das amazin".
Maybe that's because you debate jews like Lauren Southern, and other shills. You're basically debating controlled opposition that serve to steer the dumbest from fascism. I'm a real fascist, debate me any time, here, now. Unlike you I live in South Africa, my ideals are tested in reality. I bet you're one of those who claim everybody is equal, and yet you self-segregate. Please upload your coordinates, so we can peer into how much of what you spew you actually practice.
Secondly, smart boy, you clearly exhibit ignorance with regards to the subject of morality. You seem to think that there is some kind of absolute moral value, that all people should and must live by, which is ironically very fascist in nature because you force your ideals onto others. Morality is subjective, it's not set in stone. Somebody having a different set of morals than you does not make them less intelligent, this is why you're losing your country, so much ignorance.
Lastly, in science it's understood that people of today stand upon the shoulders of giants. The majority of those giants, the vast majority, are of white Indo-European descent, and I'm willing to bet that the majority of those giants were themselves racist. Are you more intelligent then Euler? Don't think so. Henry Ford? Don't think so. Even many of those founders of your liberal ideology, like Voltaire, were in fact racists. Maybe you should read a book, and stop caring about how many likes you can get from people even dumber than you are.
Holy shit you are fucking brain dead. You like arguing against strawmen don't you? Or to use your words "controlled opposition" lol. Lauren Southern isn't a jew and it wouldnt matter if she was anyway. My quote there was when they were talking about protected classes and I the states which is the country they were referring to it says in our constitution that "every man is created equal". I know people in south Africa that directly contradict what you say and so does the information. Your ideals have been tested and guess what they obviously don't work they don't make better societies. Who are you? You have no idea who I am, how are you gonna try to tell me what I do lol. I can garuntee you i don't "self segregate".
@@nuckingfuts3204 when you start a sentence with "You seem" Your making an assumption, an uneducated assumption since you have no idea who I am. Then you continue to set up strawmen of arguments i have never made. I am not a moral objectivist to be clear, morals are subjective. It doesn't matter how smart you are (or in your case how smart you think you are), Nobody is incapable of being wrong about something. All the guys you mentioned like Voltaire were smart guys I don't think anyone will deny that. However the racial theories that they may have held or many german intellectuals like Nietzhe held were and are wrong and have proven scientifically to be wrong. Here is a tip for you Racism doesn't make you smarter in fact its very likely to make you more ignorant.
@@vancepalizzi6701 So you imply that pre-Democratic rule in Europe was not more successful than democratic? I guess you must not know much about history, European empires were ruling the world until democracy slowly dismantled these societies from within. If fascism and authoritarian regimes are so unsuccessful, why was apartheid South Africa so powerful? We were 12th economy in the world, democracy has been such a failure even blacks who lived under apartheid are commending apartheid, you can look that up. If authoritarian regimes are so bad, then why do democratic countries feel the need to destabilize them? Take Libya as an example of where it was massively successful. All that is really happening, is that democracy is being replaced, and so like the old monarchies tried after the French Revolution, they are working together to overthrow what they perceive to be the political systems that will replace them. History clearly does repeat itself.
www.thesouthafrican.com/zulu-king-praises-apartheid-government-lashes-out-at-anc/ - I guess democracy in South Africa is such a great success that we have gone from indisputable powerhouse of Africa, to the Banana Republic whose doctors and scientists prefer to leave for other countries. You could also google the employment statistics in the current democratic period, and apartheid periods. The rand used to be 2.50 dollar when I was a kid, now it's 14 to the dollar, you should also take into account that democratic South Africa has no sanctions against it, whilst the apartheid regime had heavier sanctions against them than Russia. Facts attest to the success of fascism in this country. Feelings and morals don't feed people, strong economies do. I guess Venezuela are learning that lesson right along with most black South Africans today.
It's clear as day Lauren Southern never played no Starcraft.
Interesting Lauren saying Tommy Robinson's home town, Luton, is a 'no-go area'. Was just down there last weekend visiting friends. Managed to get in, have fun, then leave.
No one goes to Luton for "fun" 😂
@@lssho I googled Luton and one of the first things that come up is "'England's toilet' Luton named seventh worst place to live in England"
Why would you go to Luton for fun
@@martinch0 I take it yours was 1st?
Geez destiny crushed her.
Laura: It's too expensive to have kids in Canada/America. That why birth rates are low
Destiny: why do poor people have more kids than wealthy people in these countries if its too expensive?
Laura: Because they're Immigrants who want welfare
So a person on welfare can afford kids, but a wealthy couple can't? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Poorer people tend to have more kids because they have less access to sex education and birth control measures.
....along with certain cultural and religious teachings/ practices/ beliefs.
No, Lauren crushed him. Destiny is a racist extremist who wants white people to be replaced.
@@SilverWave64 lol, no u
@@spindoctor358 No, him.
Lauren rarely responds to what he says when he makes a strong economic argument...she just switches to something else
"I don't know about California but let's look at Europe"
"Oh cool, high GDP but mmkay lets talk about welfare instead"
Is very frustrating that she never concedes a point
You just summed up the entire experience of talking to the right. It's an exercise in futility. Their logical flaws are insurmountable.
Basically every debate between two people on a call alone together without a third party to moderate
@@Ilikemusic101 I'd love a good debate with both parties in good faith, and they have to move methodically through points--can't just switch to something else when they lose a point. It would be so healthy!! And useful if they are both very knowledgeable
@@danielblatzanich2714 I completely agree!
That really is how these things should be handled. I enjoy these debates for entertainment mainly when Im bored, but more structured debates would be great for actual discourse .
@@Ilikemusic101 thing is, it takes time. Nowadays debates are just "get in your talking points in under 5 minutes"
Snappy sound bites.
But any single issue would take hours to really cover. Produce data, reference articles or historical events. Nitpick over credibility
"Well you have your sources and I have mine"
But John Stewart has some great unedited conversations with Bill OReilly and Chris Wallace.
Jim Cramer.
This is the funnies video I've seen lately. *Lauren gets backed in a corner* Lauren: "C-can u send me the stats on that" 🤣🤣🤣
As a Canadian, I would like to apologize about Lauren Southern.
Its ok
Marcel dude what’s with all you Canadians coming to America to share their political ideas on the US? They are all right wing too. I honestly don’t get it... why don’t they worry about Canada and leave us alone
@@alirohani2687 I know, I know.... It's a problem. I think like any political grifter, you make more money with the larger you can make your audience. So that being said, there are 10x as many Americans as there are Canadians, so I think it's mostly a financial decision.
We also don't have as many conservatives here in Canada, they're all in Alberta anyway.
American: The land of opportunity for far right political grifters.
Marcel yeah man that’s what I always suspected. Money and audience. I didn’t know about the lack of “conservatives” in Canada so it makes sense. 🤦🏻♂️ I’m more mad at my own citizens for being so gullible
@@alirohani2687 Oh don't get me wrong, there are still conservatives in Canada. It feels pretty divisive, depending on where you live in the country. For example Alberta had a 44 year run of conservative leadership, a brief NDP (left leaning) stint, and is now back to being conservative. Ontario is notably pretty close to 50-50 (currently conservative).
I would say that a lot of things happening in the US also happen in Canada, but on a (usually) smaller, less blown up scale.
The US has been defining geopolitics since pretty much the end of WW2, and given it's proximity to us, it's no real surprise we're most invested in what's happening south of the border than what's happening in our own country. (I feel that way, at least).
If like, I don't know, 0.5% of the population leans hardcore right, to a person like Lauren Southern that equals not even 200k potential "fans" in Canada. That same formula spits out nearly 2 million Americans that will potentially buy your books, pay to hear you speak, follow you on Twitter, etc. That's where the real money is.
Anyway I know I'm rambling. Thanks for listening, keep on keeping on, and have a good day, friend!
I am waaaaay to the left of Destiny, but he's done a fantastic job in this debate
There is literally no one to the left of Destiny and Hassan. If there are it just proves the left has gone insane
@@markgorenshtein1946 destiny is a staunch capitalist lmao
mikekachowski No he's not. That's just a debate tactic. And btw you can still be a capitalist and still be a completely insane SJW. Destiny is somewhat clever tricking people into thinking he argues in good faith and just wants to have productive conversations but its a false flag, none of the conversations are ever productive because he never concedes anything. Anyone who disagrees with him or Hassan is Alt-Right or a Useful Idiot for the Alt-Right.
Mark Gorenshtein you can watch him debate people who hate capitalism on his channel, he is genuinely a capitalist.
“false flag”
I can see people disagreeing with Destiny but i can't see educated rational people agreeing with Lauren :/
A beautifuly succinct statement.
Citation needed
Every place was a shithole until the 1900's following the fall of the roman empire.
M.C. Sickle Cell go back to mattyb raps and alex jones channel lad 😂
This is the most retarded thing I have ever read. You're honestly claiming that Europe wasn't the breeding ground for the most advanced civilizations the world has ever seen?
That's not even fucking debatable. European countries are allowing others to assimilate because they literally beat the game by too many points. It's like when you let your little brother beat you at Mario Kart once because you have been completely smashing him for the last 12000 years and now you feel bad.
"Most Uber drivers are middle-eastern" -Lauren Southern
People like her are irrational. They use emotions to dictate their actions. When people ignore facts and decide that their emotions are representative of reality and history, they become harmful to themselves and every other being in the 3rd dimension. Emotions are important, but our actions are vital.
Lol, Uber is usually a side gig as well.
Is she ??? Lmao.
Yeah, I've lived in Toronto for a decade. And 90 percent of the time uber drivers are brown, I couldn't care less, they're all Canadians to me
When she said discrimination was an un-American. I was like I gotta rethink my political values. Because in my mind freedom like means I have the ability to do anything regardless of race, class, or creed. But what do I know I'm black.
I use Lyft, but same dif really, and in my experience I've had white drivers, black drivers, brown drivers, hispanic drivers, you name it. I don't really care either way.
People like her who say you can hire/ fire who you want, and run your company however, are the same ppl who are crying you shouldn't be able to make me wear a mask in your shop. Sure, deny people based on their sexuality, but make me wear a mask during a pandemic! That's too far.
When you start laughing in an argument, you've already lost.
not really it's more like when you start insulting the other person
@Honest Peter When you laugh trying to explain your argument because that's your only way to fill the blank because you have nothing to say, destiny laughs when she says things that make no sense, not when he is talking
Look out. We have a retard over here.
To be fair Destiny laughs all the time.
As a matter of fact, he laughs more than her in this video.
Lol she quoted breitbart and the heritage foundation.
LOL
But she also claimed that Destiny's sources could have been made up.
Oh no! The data doesnt back my right wing bullshit! Ummmm but muh coverups! Let me cite some super specific bullshit. Fuck Lauren Southern.@@Herb615
I don't see what's wrong with the heritage foundation
Just because she quoted sources you don't like doesn't mean its wrong. That is not an argument.
bill c16 doesn't even force you to use pronouns
A man was recently fined $35,000 for misgendering a Canadian politician.
Daniel Mendoza It’s called “activist accused of misgendering political candidate stands his ground before human rights tribunal”, the guy was not fined though, he was threatened with a fine and removal from his hearing because he shouted at the tribunal.
Nathan Smith That didn’t happen
@Daniel Mendoza morganeoger.ca/2019/03/27/we-won-bill-whatcott-found-to-have-violated-section-7-of-bc-human-rights-code/?fbclid=IwAR3-9vgNwVF6rnik_diTM7TW0jw5sMIVvmYm_KBpDI_P96_SyCK9DJz9Mfs
@@iwillchopyoudown3100 He was fined $35,000 for "injury to her dignity, feelings and self-respect" and $20,000 for improper conduct surrounding the hearing.
As a native swede I think it's rather funny how Lauren talks about Sweden as this dying country. But she deeply underestimate the second generation of immigrants. As a person currently in school almost all of them are going to medical school and even outcompeting native swedes in tests etc.A large number of these medical students are women wearing hijabs.
@Toroidal Zeus you guys didn't care about This when you where colonizing North America Canada USA Australia New Zealand. And other countries. Your complaining because your loosing your throwing a tantrum because your being beat
@Toroidal Zeus I was born premature here at 27 weeks where are we going to go me my family and others I've read an article and even Stephen pointed out during this debate that the frist generation second generation western born Latino kids dont speak Spanish as there main languages English becomes there main language. Like I pointed out myself I haven't been fluent in Fijian Hindi since I was a toddler. My accent the English I speak is a mix of American and British. The second or frist generation kids are westerners. Look at Geroge Teki the actor from Star Trek him and his parents where both born in USA not Japan. And where still victim's of the Japanese interment camps during world war two. Are you morally okay with that. Are you going to deport every colored peoples in the western countries. Including the ones born in the west. Why would western born kids wont to go back to there ansctors homeland. They have no connection to there ansctors homeland. They speak western languages are influenced by western calture ideas government systems politics philosophy eat western food. Watch western shows. That's why deportation of African Americans post American cvil war wasn't going to work because the slaves in America had been born and raised in America. Several generations has passed since 1619. They where no longer African they where western born peoples. Same with myself and others. I would not survive or fit in or care about my ancestors home.
@Toroidal Zeus yet without Asian goods during imperialism Spices tea silk porcelain cotton textiles the British Empire and other nations in the west would be nothing. Dont forget gun powder Toliet paper writting paper compass where invented by Chinese. the Arabic numbers we use today where invented by Hindus Indians. Along with other advances in maths. The frist plastic surgery was done in India in the 6th century.
@Toroidal Zeus What you're saying is highly hypocritical and fucced up. Chill. Go back to wherever the fucc you were from in Europe if you're so unhappy with the Melting Pot. I want more border control, in that we screen for entrepreneurs, university students, wealthy, and graduate immigrants; but nothing I advocate is to protect the White colonizers that rely on legacy nepotism to keep their hegemony on the levers of power and money.
This stupid tribalism only inflates the egos of the dumbest and laziest of White Americans and it is corrosive. If the person is qualified for the position, let them have it. It's not diversity, but capitalism. Many White Americans are socialists or actual fascists trying to claims capitalism. Capitalism is diversity as it seeks to avoid saturation by diversification.
Go your dumb butt on somewhere and cry..socialist
@Toroidal Zeus imagine wanting to deport citizens of countries back to where they "came from" we all were originally from africa guess we should all move back
My brain just ghettoized itself after watching this debate.
I wanna enact Sharia law upon myself and throw myself off a building
So did mine when I watched Destiny vs Mister Metokur debate lmao
mcpl99 i identify myself as cattle, my only purpose is to be raped and killed
there are 4 million refugees from syria only living in turkey and she's talking about those refugees don't stay in turkey :D
turkey is basically the country that took most of the refugees :D
So she watched Destiny's preparation video and all of a sudden doesn't want to talk about economics. She knows what she's doing and isn't completely stupid, otherwise she wouldn't have completely shut down on every topic besides culture.
Harl Stowe STFU, does your ass hurt? 😔
This is amazing. Everytime her views are debunked, she just moves the goalposts.
Typical ploy to never look like you're losing a debate.
Honestly, who cares. I know alot of people just come here to see people they disagree with get annihilated and humiliated but i think its far more important to find out whats right and correct. So if Lauren suddenly admits that we can actually immigrate some of the people that come here but then moves the goalpost i dont care. She already conceded the point. Its not an official: "Oh i was wrong and you are right. i am so dumb" but who cares about that stuff.
For me its not a debate between someone i like and someone i dislike winning or losing, its more like two opposing views clash and we see who makes more sense.
Which of her views are debunked?
@@counterweight320 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Harry Styles well said
86Corvus still SEETHING don’t you have a job nigga lmao
I went through the naturalization process here in Germany from 2016 to 2017.
I do not know what Lauren is talking in regards to "Citizenship denied because of refugees".
Ach, Mensch, Sally... Du, hier?
Sally du Ehrenmann ich küsse dich Bruder
Every time he asks a difficult question, she changes the subject.
"so NOW the raw numbers don't matter?" After totally failing to understand Destiny's explanation of cross-sectional analysis. Lauren's scientific reasoning ability=0
European people have a right to stay the ruling majority in their countries and not be replaced by uncontrolled mass immigration from the third world. That's all that Lauren and most Europeans want. That's not racist. The real racists are people like you who want indigenous and ethnic Europeans to be replaced. That's not only racist, that's extremist.
We're all gonna die soon, am I right? /s
@@SilverWave64 How are you going to do that without immigration? Your nation is going to be economically cripled to the point that it cannot compete with other western nation.
Also why do you care about skin color so much?
@RanEncounter Incentivise and support people to have children again. There are enough countries who do that and where the birth rate is going up again.
Because we have a right to exist and a right to keep existing, to protect our cultural identity, our traditions and religion, and out heritage.
If I said we should replace any other race (blacks in Africa or brown people in the Middle East) with whites, you would throw a tantrum because that would be racist.
@@SilverWave64 "Incentivise and support people to have children"
How and why would that be better than immigration?
"There are enough countries that who do that and where birth rate is going up again."
We see in most countries that increase in wealth and social stability leads to lower birth rates. Name one that this is not so.
"Because we have a right to exist and a right to keep existing,..."
Who is stopping you from doing that? Immigration is not stopping you from any of that. If I have a kid with an immigrant is the kid not a continuation of my existance?
"...to protect our cultural identity, our traditions and religion, and out heritage."
Nothing is stopping you from doing that. Teach immigrants those values. Don't you want more people to learn these values?
I disagree that those values are more important than economic and cultural progress thou. We can take cultural norms that are better elsewhere to improve our culture.
"If I said we should replace any other race (blacks in Africa or brown people in the Middle East) with whites, you would throw a tantrum because that would be racist."
Because it is racist. I am not advocating for any "race" to replace any other "race". Immigration is not saying anything about replacement of whites. There is only one race and it is the human race. This segregation of people by their skin color is racist. You worry about skin color more than economic and cultural growth. That is ridiculously racist.
the awkward, manipulative fake laughter she keeps doing makes the beginning so hard to watch.
C-16 does not say you have to refer to someone as their preferred gender pronoun. It's literally not even close to that. It protected "gender expression" under their already existent human rights code. One of the protections that affords is "hate speech", which might sound like it implies you have to use a preferred pronoun... if you don't even bother to Google the phrase "hate speech Canadian law". In order to qualify as hate speech in Canada you literally have to ADVOCATE FOR A GENOCIDE. And not just like "it's white genocide because interracial sex is making white people browner". Genocide is strictly defined in Canadian law as well. The mass murder (
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Thank you
14 minutes in and I'm already astonished she said Christianity is not a political religion (with the apparent implication that Christianity is not an influence in politics).
Kameron Sheppard Actual bullshit, what are you smoking?
@Kameron Sheppard horseshit lol
Carl Ng the absurdity of it, maybe in Canada it's not as bad, but here in America that statement is INSANE
Kameron Sheppard Are you daft? like maybe not in Europe but In the united States.
@Kameron Sheppard The Moral Majority, Defeat of the ERA, Painfully slow progress on gay/trans rights, Justifications for slavery being taken from Bible passages, Rebirth of the Ku Klux Klan and their hate of Catholics and Jews, Al Smith (former Governor of New York) and JFK having their Catholic faith be made a campaign issue. Shall I go on?
This was so enjoyable...so EASY to dismantle her nonsense....her supremacy....her intolerant twisted comments
73% of terrorist attacks WHERE? Because I think we all know where most of the world's terror attacks happen...
But, even if your unsourced Americentric statistic were true, it is still no defence that Islamic terrorists are hundreds of times disproportionately represented in terrorist attacks in the USA.
They're 1% of the population, yet still compete for top spot.
@@LiberalsGettheBulletToo www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-supremacist-murders-us-figures-double-2017-racist-hate-crime-las-vegas-shooting-extremist-a8165416.html ;)
@@melancholicat3132 This article cites regular homicides as white extremist.
Paranoia Agent, let me get this strait.. In a county or countries that are mostly white, most terror attacks are by deranged white people that are supremacist. In a place that is mostly white... How can this be!!!
Glenn Baier You are misinterpreting the data and you are mixing up the categories. No one said “white people” are committing the terrorist actions but “white supermacists” which is smaller organization than Islamic terrorist organizations who are direct reaction to the Western interventions and are coming from the war destroyed regions. So if you choose to take all the factors into account instead of committing the fallacy of the single cause you will see that “Islamic terrorism”, has much less to do with the Islam and much more to do with circumstances created around it (such as war, obliterated economy, civilians killed, destruction of the infrastructure, sociopathic behaviors created by the conditions etc) while “White nationalist terrorism” is directly related to white nationalism, - there may have been some individual circumstances that created fertile ground for developing such behavior (lack of self esteem, involuntary celibacy) , the general state of affairs are giving no valid “justification” for such behavior. So not only that it is more prevalent form of terrorism, but it also has a tendency to emerge simply out of “middle class fears” and nothing more. So in the end when you say White people therefore “white supermacy” and “Muslims” therefore “Islamic terrorism” those are two completely different categories. Islam is “ideology”, “white supermacy” is ideology, “white man” is a biological category of human (even though nonsensical), “muslims” is ideological category of human. By saying that “white nationalism” is somehow directly related to “white population” means that you consider “white identity” as an ideology. Superiority complex is not mandatory, not every people are in such sorry state that they have nothing else to be proud of but their race-like dogs.
-And in the end some people above are comparing terrorism in the peaceful areas that are emerged in the peaceful areas with terrorism in war zones created by the west and then act surprised when even a small fraction of terrorism comes to the west.
I wish the global left was as powerful as Lauren Southern thinks it is.
I wish the ENTIRE WORLD was as progressive as this count thinks it is.
57:10 never forget.
That hour long build up was worth it. A big “Go fuck yourself Lauren” moment.
It's just so frustrating that populists can't be convinced that anecdotal evidence skews their perception because they have anecdotal evidence against the assertion. ~.~
*Edit: Removed comma for clarity
Als ob du hier bist...
DaTa Is ThE pLeUrAl Of AnEcDoTe!
That was brutal LOL I would have been tilted in that argument if that were me.
Just btw Lauren just lies about bill C-16, all it does is make it so transgender people can't be discriminated against. All that means is you can't deny employment, leases or services on the basis of gender identity. It also makes it a hate crime to commit crimes against someone on the basis of their gender. So if you attack a trans person because they are trans it is a hate crime and assault. You can still refer to them by whatever pronouns you want. The idea that you have to call them by whatever pronoun you want was bullshit circulated by Jordan Peterson because he conflated his university policy with the country law.
Yep. I’ve mistakenly used the wrong pronoun maybe 5-6 times since the bill passed and not once have I been threatened with the police. And not once have I, in person or in the papers, seen or heard of a person douchey enough to change their gender day by day and threaten prosecution if people don’t abide by their ridiculousness. It’s like the people against the bathroom bill. Some people literally thought if people have the right to go in which ever bathroom fits their gender identity that little girls would get assaulted and raped by grown men. It’s such a nothing crime because that shit doesn’t exist. People like Lauren fear monger like it’s their job, and in Lauren’s case it is her job.
Wow. This explained a lot. No understanding of statistics or data analysis, and no understanding of economics. A middle school understanding of the junk neoclassical economics, at best. This was quite painful to listen to.
Bu-bu-but MUH ON THE GROUND REPORTING
When Lauren referred to immigrants as zerglings I was like "aw shit here we go again"
I'm a conservative and I honestly think Destiny makes really good points and is very reasonable.
You are a rare breed, but a very welcome one.
Listen to people like Hbomberguy, Shaun, and Contrapoints too.. it's a new generation of more left-leaning people who aren't scared of actually arguing their points (often with an actual sense of humor even!) in stead of being arrogant about them... you might appreciate them too
@@samwellboy Thanks. I'm always up to change my mind.
@@carecup809 Just outta curiosity, where do you stand now? I've found myself being a right-leaning centrist change into someone that believes left opinions by watching people like Contrapoints and Destiny (even if I disagree with how Destiny argues at times).
I'm leaning libertarian but I still like to watch Destiny because I end up sometimes being like "Oh shit, am I fucking wrong?". Keeps me honest. This said I think most right leaning people that debate him are a bit garbage imo and even Destiny has big misconceptions towards free markets.
My word... she's all about that Whataboutism...
Also why in the hell did pewdiepie's youtube pop up when I subscribed to Destiny... Dafuq RUclips?!
Why does she keep laughing?
Because she's nervous. She's seeing holes in her arguments that she's never seen before from inside her echo chamber and she doesn't know how to respond.
A Vaja because she knows she is loosing. But wants to nonverbally patronize her opponent
Rey Cancer any man who says beta or alpha i know doesn’t or hasn’t talked to a female in years
Rey Cancer me? White knighting for lauren southern? Im not a fan of blondes anyway
Also if you read my reply, im taking a piss at you dumbass. She called for a white supermajority. Thats fucked up. Where would i fall in this ‘white supermajority’? Deported? Lynched? Burned on a cross, because im half black. You conservatives are the true villians nowadays...
“I hate that bitch”
-doc rivers -quote me-
because that's what hyenas do
She is the embodiment of 'laugh to keep from crying'
Unironically the worst type of coping mechanism
Just baffled by the fact that she actually thinks business owners etc. should be allowed to discriminate how they see fit. Also she says it's non-american to deny them to discriminate, and that it's not constitutionalized, which it in fact is: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." The "unalienable rights" contain among others, the right to not be discriminated against based on race or sex.
The first amendment includes freedom of association. Rights in America relate to what the government does with you, not between private individuals per se.
“We’re not talking about cat kins right now Lauren” 😂😂😂
Haha some in chat
"STOP.
TALKING.
ABOUT.
EUROPE."
She thinks Europeans are walking caricatures. Like her picture of europe is white people going around with cultural garments and eating traditional food.
Does she not realise that Europe is just as modern and first world as North America?
By her logic, why isn't she drinking maple syrup at all times, whilst talking about hockey? Why are most canadians not doing that? Must be them god damn immigrants ending their culture...
Mariangeles Baldé yeah man gut Canada is a immigrant land there is No 1 culture people combine there cultures ;))
She always laughs when she has no idea.
That's why she laughs for nearly 2.5 hours straight...