Important note: I should have mentioned around 36:20 that Reefs of Earth very much portrays Oklahoman Native Americans as *contemporary* modern people, not some 'vanished race' or what have you. There is that sense of historical depth in the novel that Matt mentions but it's tied directly to living experience in the present day. You can see my episodes 11 & 12 if you want to hear me talk a little more about Lafferty and Native American storytelling and culture.
Great discussion! I also find myself disappointed, or possibly uninterested, in the "solutions" to Wolfe's work. I remember reading the big reveal in Urth for the first time, and thinking "are you kidding me? This zaniness is the answer??" Fortunately, Wolfe is such a wonderful stylist, and the atmosphere he creates is so great that I'm perfectly happy to largely just hold my attention at the experiential level and avoid a narrow focus on answers. I agree that Lafferty is the superior artist. For me his work is a near perfect use of literary fiction, in that it orients our attention toward transcendent truths that seem impossible to express or understand directly.
Reefs of Earth is very good but i do wonder how much traction a good review will get a book that's both hard to find and just not easy to categorize (correctly). still my favorite Lafferty
I never count on all that much traction with Lafferty.🤪 This one is widely available with the Locus edition though. (I don't love that one for format and typo reasons unfortunately.) Btw, how would you categorize it (correctly😁)?
Daniel while you’re a Patreon of bookpilled - watch his “Three body problem” review. It is one of the all time classic book reviews I’ve seen. He basically has COVID at the time , (which I know isn’t funny) but his anger at the book and his firing up about it , makes he get progressively sicker during his review. It’s like the book is so bad it’s making him physically sick. That and his Andy Weir reviews - omg he detests Weir and it’s hilarious to watch!
Whoever wants a Laferty at the used shop or eBay should jump now- because I think Matt (bookpilled) can increase the price by $100 if he loves an old of print book.
@@Doctor_RockterI bought one his fav finds A star of the unborn for $100 on eBay, and I think before his review it was about $5. It is not on digital anywhere so it was the only way to check it out. But one of bookpilled’s fans digitized it and then bookpilled posted the link so everyone can read it.
Important note: I should have mentioned around 36:20 that Reefs of Earth very much portrays Oklahoman Native Americans as *contemporary* modern people, not some 'vanished race' or what have you. There is that sense of historical depth in the novel that Matt mentions but it's tied directly to living experience in the present day. You can see my episodes 11 & 12 if you want to hear me talk a little more about Lafferty and Native American storytelling and culture.
Bookpilled’s Patreon is the best 5 bucks you could ever spend !!
I'm loving it! :)
Great video! Glad to hear Bookpilled caught the Lafferty bug!
Rad, thanks for watching, Chris! :)
Great discussion! I also find myself disappointed, or possibly uninterested, in the "solutions" to Wolfe's work. I remember reading the big reveal in Urth for the first time, and thinking "are you kidding me? This zaniness is the answer??"
Fortunately, Wolfe is such a wonderful stylist, and the atmosphere he creates is so great that I'm perfectly happy to largely just hold my attention at the experiential level and avoid a narrow focus on answers.
I agree that Lafferty is the superior artist. For me his work is a near perfect use of literary fiction, in that it orients our attention toward transcendent truths that seem impossible to express or understand directly.
@@istoner very well put on all fronts!
Reefs of Earth is very good but i do wonder how much traction a good review will get a book that's both hard to find and just not easy to categorize (correctly). still my favorite Lafferty
I never count on all that much traction with Lafferty.🤪 This one is widely available with the Locus edition though. (I don't love that one for format and typo reasons unfortunately.)
Btw, how would you categorize it (correctly😁)?
Daniel while you’re a Patreon of bookpilled - watch his “Three body problem” review. It is one of the all time classic book reviews I’ve seen. He basically has COVID at the time , (which I know isn’t funny) but his anger at the book and his firing up about it , makes he get progressively sicker during his review. It’s like the book is so bad it’s making him physically sick. That and his Andy Weir reviews - omg he detests Weir and it’s hilarious to watch!
@@dragonsandwarts5644 awesome tips, will watch these, thanks!😊
Whoever wants a Laferty at the used shop or eBay should jump now- because I think Matt (bookpilled) can increase the price by $100 if he loves an old of print book.
very true!
@@Doctor_RockterI bought one his fav finds A star of the unborn for $100 on eBay, and I think before his review it was about $5. It is not on digital anywhere so it was the only way to check it out. But one of bookpilled’s fans digitized it and then bookpilled posted the link so everyone can read it.
@@dragonsandwarts5644 ah, I didn’t realise that about Star being digitised. Good to know, thanks.