10 SHOCKING DIFFERENCES Between Valmiki Ramayana And Tulsi Das Ramcharitmanas
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10 SHOCKING DIFFERENCES Between Valmiki Ramayana And Tulsi Das Ramcharitmanas
Ramayan was written by Valmiki in the Treta Yuga - the second in the series of Maha Yuga. It was referred as Adi Kavya meaning ‘The Original/First poem’. Being the first of its kind, Valmiki was highly praised for his work and Ramyana was well accepted by scholars and society.
On the other hand, when Tulsi Das completed his version - The Ramcharit Manas in the 15th century AD, he was ridiculed by the Sanskrit Brahmins. One of the reasons of this criticism was that the original Ramayan was written in Sanskrit which is considered to be the language of gods, whereas Tulsi Das’ Ramcharit Manas, was written in a local language called Awadhi.
Even though the core of the story is the same, Ramcharit manas definitely has many instances that completely differ from the original Ramayan.
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Dono mein sahi konsa hai... ramayan mein bhi ghapla... kalyug ka tha na tulsidas tbhi ramayan mein ghapla hua hai.. kalyug nhi ghor kalyug hai...
Can you give references to prove your claim. According to Valmiki Ramayana also Rama is a God. So you are completely wrong
@@yknews8970 According to Valmiki Ramayan, Rama was an incarnation of God. However, he didn't have any divine powers. If he was God himself, he wouldn't have been able to defeat Ravana.
Let me correct you. Luv Kush Birth and Other Such Tales are part of Kamban Ramayana and Neither Maharishi Valmiki nor Goswami Tulsidas mentions that. In Uttarkand of Ramcharitmanas, Later life of Lord Ram and Many other tales like Ram Gita and life of Mahatma Kaagbhusundi and his learnings are mentioned.
Jai SiyaRam ❤️
Horrible script, really, full of lies!
*Tulsidas's Ramayana has more magical vibes than Original Ramayana But original ramayana is more realistic and logical. You can't disapprove or argue with any part of it.*
@Asif yeh, i would like to hear you
@Asif You tell slokas and I will give you the meaning.
I suppose that shouldn't be problem for you. Specially when your ancestors were once belonged to same santana religion.
@Nirvana *that's why he stopped commenting farther. I was ready to nab him for lies that are described in their religious book and also which are pretty unethical in modern times.*
@@things_leftunsaid You must know first original RAMAYANA, which infact tells a great king 'RAMA' with a high tech bow ( like MARVEL'S HAWK EYE) used to protect people by punishing a lot of sinners by high tech arrows. It has been discovered by archaeological buddies that RAMA'S mansion was real as well as his kingdom AYODHYA . You will be surprised to hear that a small bridge ( as RAM SETU according to RAMAYANA) between INDIA and SRI LANKA is real.
Not only that, it was the first time, where author mentioned about AIRPLANE (ancient VIMANA), which used to be driven by emperor himself. I could disapprove everything but after watching these proves on HISTORY TV & ancient aliens, I can't deny those at all.
Yes. Even IDon't accept Tulsidas Ramayan it is bit of misleading, Fantasy book.
Whereas Valmiki Ramayan Is Practical
Maharishi Valmiki was the observer; Goswami Tulsidas the devotee. Both the versions are unique in their own way, and we love, admire and revere both.
You don't know what shit he has done.
@@Moderator. no every aacharya of every sampradaya accept tulsidas ramayan
@@vivekgangwar9051 are bhai tumne kitna time diya scriptures padhne par jitne Dandi Swami Aacharya hai sabne sahi bola hai chache DHARMA SAMRAT KARPATRI MAHARAJ ho ya MADHUSUDHAN SARASWATI advaiti vidwaan or anya jitne Mahapuran ya Puran ho usi ke hisab se likha or unko to Hanuman ji or Lakshman ji ke pratyaksh darshan hue the kalyug ma
@@modernkshatriye4629 vo to log maan jae isliye hanuman ji ke pratyaksh dikhae gye varna just imagine kya tum maan lete.
@@vivekgangwar9051 are jo bhi manas mai likha hai vo jitne puran ha un sab mai bhi ha or kalyugi logo ke liye hi likhi ha Valmiki Ramayan aajkal ke logo ke samajhne ke baat nhi ha Valmiki Ramayan ke language harsh ha or Sidh Mahapursho ko bhagwan ke darshan nhi honge to hum jase logo ko honge baki kitna khandan ho chuka hai unlogo ka jo manas ko pramanit geanth nhi mante us time ke bhi vadwano ke beech mai chintan hua tha or zyada ha to RAMAYAN MIMANSA by Karpatri ji maharaj ki book ha usme sare refutation fiye gaye ha jo ramayan par sawal utahte ha
Ramayana by Vakmiki is the most authoritative.
Not certainly
Where can I find, or what do I type to make sure I find the Original Valmiki Ramayana? I always found the portrayal of Rama in the Uttara Kanda to be completely out of character, and it disturbed me greatly. I would love to find the one with the 6 Kandas.
Correction: laxman rekha is not boundry for woman but boundry for strangers to not cross in
SAHI BOLA AAPNE.
Well said...
Bang on
No you are wrong it has a symbolic meaning and u probably watched in the Ramayana that when Sita ji crossed that line she didn't not go back in the hut in order to save herself , and then Ravana said once a lady has crossed her limit there is no way of going back. 👍
True
You forgot one more difference. Most people believed that Hanuman could not bleed. However Valmiki Ramayan depicts Hanuman as throwing up blood when he is pierced in the gut by Kumbhakarna.
Also, in Valmiki Ramayana, there is no mention of the vaanaras writing "श्री राम" on the stones while building the bridge. And I agree. Writing Shri Ram's name never made sense to me. You are going to step on it after all.
Actually it describes , about the proper making of bridge with proper engineering. If I am not wrong
@@abhishekdarjee7069 More or less. It doesn't give an extremely detailed description, but does mention that wood and ropes/creepers were used as the framework and stones were used as the pathway. All in all, the Valmiki version is more realistic to me. Also, that bridge was extremely wide as well. Reading Valmiki Ramayana Yuddha kanda chapter 22, we know that the bridge length:breadth ratio was 10:1
@@user-vo8ep8jz8c For sure, Tulsi Das knowingly included the incident in more devotional way to enrich the devotion of Hindu in Mugal era.
Valmiki Ramayana is very Special to this land.
Jaya Jaganath Swami 🙏
@@abhishekdarjee7069 yes, you are right,
The excellent monkeys, the forest animals lifted and brought, like Indra's flag posts, some trees with roots intact and some others without roots.
From here and there the monkeys brought Palmyra trees, pomegranate shrubs, coconut and Vibhitaka, Karira, Bakula and neem trees.
The huge bodied monkeys with mighty strength uprooted elephant-sized rocks and mountains and transported them by mechanical contrivances.
These are a few verses from valmiki ramayana
Modi is a raakshasha
So Valmiki version is a bit more realistic
Tulsidas added the magical elements
@Islam Virodhi those magical stuffs might have been added in the valmiki's works to make the reader of the scriptures interesting like what had been done in mahabharata....
We dont have the real manuscript of valmiki and vedavyas,those manuscripts could tell the fact...anyways the core of the story kept same by those who added magic stuffs
@@zaktanazaki8785 everything is magical
Sri Ramas birth
Sita devis birth
Hanuman accomplish
Dont read with todays things in your mind
It's not a novel drama story
@@shriharikulkarni2305 absolutely everything is magical...you ,me and the thing on which we are touching and letters appearing...
Yep. Latter version is the hollywood/bollywood/tollywood version with more charm n spices, dramatic xpression etc heh. But we lovvvv that 😁, me included! Cant frget ramayan tv series in the 80s! My respects to lord ram 🙏
Ya thats the setback for real ramayan
Wow laxman rekha does not mention in Valmiki Ramayan
Seriously Valmiki version is so more realistic and better
*@Mohit Verma* Don't believe everything on the internet blindly without cross checking the facts, brother. I don't know why this channel is spreading false information about Valmiki Ramayana, because I myself have read Valmiki Ramayana and *_"Laxman rekha"_* part is clearly mentioned there in Valmiki Ramayana. And there's no doubt that Valmiki version of Ramayana sounds more logical and realistic and better, but Lakshman Rekha and Money armies are mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana.
It says Lakshman drew the Rekha to protect Mata Sita from carnivorous demóns & monsters who were openly roaming in the jungle. Because Sita Devi ordered Lakshman to bring Raam back to her, and so he had to leave Sita alone for a while, and hence he drew the line for Sita so that no demóns can CROSS that divine line to harm mata Sita.
@@jaydutta7711 check on Google laxman rekha isn't mentioned in valmiki ramayan
Valmiki Ramayana seems more grounded and I'm 100% sure something very similar did actually happened which later got personified to the level which we know of today.
Nice comparison with the present day situation. We are not in Mughal era now. So let us all read the one and only Ramyana written by Maharishi Valmiki.
How can you be 100% sure of that?
Of course, sth like that could have happened, but Ramayan seems more like a literature for children of ancient times (to teach them humility and lessons of worshipping) than actual events or people.
@SAINIISM People call it literature coz that's what it is.
You surely haven't read a lot of fiction.
Read almost any fiction you want, the location are real, the geography is included from the real world. That's unless you're into sci-fi or comics.
@Amiya kumar don’t bother arguing. They debate like creationist in USA. They aren’t sure which statement of the book to take literally and which figuratively. will choose as per their convenience to prove a point foregoing any logical reasoning. Most of the people here are not even aware that what’s the oldest deciphered text found in India. And still will boast about things which they have no clue. The amount money invested in keeping people Mis informed is staggering so as to benefit a lot of people. All religious people across all religions are like that.
@Amiya kumar bro I am an atheist/agnostic. I am very ok with saying I don’t know.
Ramcharitmanas is truly divine retelling as it is written by devotee of Lord Rama, just like Kamba Ramayana, Krittibas Ramayana, Adbhuta Ramayana, Rangnath Ramayana etc.
But the Valmiki Ramayana is Itihaas as it was written by Maharishi Valmiki who had power to see beyond limits of time and he was a contemporary of Lord Rama.
Modi us rakshasaswaadi
Valmiki ramayana is authentic because valmiki ramayana much older and much deeper
Moreover through tulsidas's epic or valmiki's epic you can reach towards Lord Hanuman 😊 The true witness of Ramayana and the main Bhaktashiromani , The most important deity who can take you to the world of Ram 🥰🥰🥰
It is Bhakta Shiromani not BhaktaShiromani bro
@@ImranAli-jp6cy Right
Laxman ji was no less bhakt of ram than hanuman ji
@@ekanek..9431 Any statistics, any media reports, how you came to the conclusion. Just asking
@@ekanek..9431 So , it just your opinion. That's ok
But I am asking what's your factual basis supporting the argument 😶
This comparison is very interesting. But there is one very important point is missing here. Valmiki's Ramayana says Lakshmana was hurt by Ravan for which Hanuman had to go to fetch the Sanjeevani herbs. In Tulsidas' version, it was Meghnad who hurt Lakshmana.
It’s very important to remember that a good man can become a good king and a powerful, good king can/will be worshipped as a god. It’s the model of the treta yuga. The thing written in the 15th century a.d. has a different yuga’s view.
Very good point, the consciousness is hugely different
Valmiki was writer of contemporary event.
Tulsidas was writer of a story about his revered god.
There is difference btw bhagwan and god/dev what you are saying is the one who is respected and worshipped is poojiniye as devatas . So shri raam chandra is bhagwan sources of all devatas( elevated being or jivas ) , bhagwan is neither human nor jiva he is source of all sources . Vedvyas says krishna sarva karna karnam , krishna su bhagwan swayam - krishna is bhagwan and source of all sources .
Wrong :- in Valmiki Ramayana also discribed that shree ram incarnation of Vishnu (balkand 16 sarga)
Vishnu takes incarnation in every Kalpa and killed Ravan in every Kalpa ramcharitmanas and Ramayan from different Kalpa but both are true .
It is generally agreed based on various fact by literalists that the Balkand and the Utter Kand was added by some later writer to Valmiki Ramayan. Valmiki ended his Ramayan with classical Sanskrit style with Ram Rajyabhishek. 🙏
These two were added, it is hypothesised, for turning it into a Bhakti Granth
the part about Hanuman is fascinating! Makes you wonder what thoughts the person who wrote the Ramayana had when looking at monkeys and apes, were they able to tell that humans had a connection to them? So much we don't know about ancient India.
Neanderthals..read about them ma'am..
@@Devansh_Singh491 I know what neanderthals are...
@@saltycupkakes2799 who knows??
@Spell Check as per modern science Ramayana didn't happened it's a myth..
@@Devansh_Singh491 thats not true
Correction : Valmiki Ramayana 's Sarga 16 says that Lord Vishnu incarnated on earth upon Lord Brahma and other Devta's requests to incarnate on earth.
The magical elements had to added in order to instill devotion in others during those times where morality was less prevalent throughout the world. However back when Valmiki wrote it, no magical elements would be needed in the story for many were already instilled with devotion and morality. It was more of a Vedic age and many strictly followed the Vedas.
It's very much overwhelming to watch this video with your devine like voice....
God Bless You .... #JayShreeRam 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The differences between Valmiki and Tulsidas ramayanas potrays what has happened to Indian History.
Over glorification by writers has made our history into unreal myths. Wrong translations added into this.
Yes, there is no question that Goswami Shri Tulsidas was a great poet and devotee... But nothing gives you the right to alter past... And I'm shocked that most of the facts I'm aware of is from Ramcharitmanas like Ravan's death...
We have to respect valmiki samaj.... whenever I see them....I realise because of valmiki bagwan we know God ram 🙏
I remember studying world history in my PUC in the early 1060s had elaborate portions on native Indian Kings unlike the present day syllabus. I recall how my History lecturer explained the rule of Chandra Gupta Maurya including his contribution to literary religius and social contributions. There were multiple versions of the Indian Epics Ramayan and Mahabarath then and the king summoned scholars from all Hindu scholars in south Asia to ediscuss the versions of the Epics to validate the truth of the conflicting versions. The epics were modified and codified baed on the consensus among the scholars. Many doubtful versions were discarded and only a few retained and reduced to written scripts. Still thre were some variations among those that were cleared for use which was due to the authenticity of elite authors who had written them. The vaiations are often attributed to the theory that the epics are re enacted on Earth in every Kalpa with some minor vatiations whch is called Kalpa bedha.
Wow didn't know that
Great work done by the king...
I guess such things supposed to happen when you have thousands and thousands years of old ancient history...the main thing is that core is intact and our sanatan dharma and culture is progressing around these stories...
But when an author for example wrote Ramayana in a different mahayuga wouldn't he specify im the beginning like this currently is this xyz mahayuga going on and our manu is this one.our Ramayana has done that so I think other's must have don't it too.If they had done it there should not be any confusion regarding which events took place in our present mahayuga or in other mahayuga.....pls ask this from your professor.
@@pdd1240 Priyanka behen, It is not history as history records dates, facts. Hanuman, a monkey, could not break apart the parvat weighing millions of tons after having failed to pluck out a medicinal plant growing at the foot of the parvat. LOL. Hanuman a monkey has no wings it can not fly at all. Ram is claimed to be an avatar of Vishnu without any evidence presented so far in the last 5000+yrs. WHY? It is FALSE. Think, use your common sense and discard Katil Ram, and Hanuman a monkey. Believe in a din dayalu premi Parmeshwar. Satyemeva Jayete.
Relatable 👍🏼
For me Ramayan is written for a reason. sanatan dharma is about living a life of righteousness which Shree Ram done gracefully. The Ramayan has been written to teach every human how to live and follow dharma. The perfect son the perfect husband and the perfect king. ❤ Jai Shree Ram
Ramcharitamanas is exaggeration....Ramayana is the correct history
Exactly.. but ur modi js
A raakshashas... If he was not his name would enhance the hindu experience... not make it ugly.. which is the truth now... shame
@@ekanek..9431 that's your opinion
@@darmani8079 mine?.... Lol the whole world is talking about what a failure and a Asura Modi is...
@@ekanek..9431 oh don't get me wrong I don't live in India and don't participate in politics. And I'm not interested in him.
This reminds me of Sant Tukaram who wrote Abhang (praises) of Lord Vitthal (A Vishnuroop) in local language Marathi. Established orthodox pundits did not like it and ordered him to drown his writings in Indrayani river. But Shri Vitthal 's blessings brought those back out from river. 👌🙏💕💐
Valmiki Ramayana is the true one as it is without bias and personal opinion..Rachatrimanas was written much later after Shri Ram passing away..Sage Valmiki was a contemporary of Shri Rama..He met him talk to him and even Mahavir Hanuman who is a man, a great yogi, a great devotee of prabu Shri Rama..Valmiki met all these great sage in real..Tulsidas was definetly a great devotee also..What he wrote was also his personal opinion..But still both were great MAhapurush
Ramayan Is our Unforgottable hystory 🙏🙏🚩🚩 blessed to be hindu Jai shree Ram
Valmiki's Ramayana is इतिहास. It was written wgile Ram was on the earth. Tulasi's RCM is a "bhakti kavya" . It is closer to Adhyatm Ramayan.
You are absolutely right sir that's why ppl connect more to Santh Tulsidas ji written Ramcharit Manas.. Ppl should remember Rishis are not generally devotees of Lord Vishnu.. They are devotees of Lord Shiva..
The best perspective of ramyana is by lord hanuman carved/written on a stone of himalaya ,but when lord hanuman saw the ramyana to valmiki rishi ,valmiki was feeling guilty that his ramyana was not that perfect then the ramyana of lord hanuman but then seeing valmiki feeling sad he destoyed the whole stone
@@parth-ian5027 correct!! many people are aware of this!
There are three types of explanations. Aadiboutika, Aadidaivika and Aadhyaatmika.
Raamcharitamaanas is the Aadhyaatmik way of explaining Ramayan. That’s why the term Manas. Aadhyatmik-Ramayan did not happen in physical plane. Instead it is the psychological plane of explaining it is. Please let’s not misguide people
But people are misguided. Most believe Ram Charit Manas, which is a dramatised version of the original by a great bhakt, to be true. Few study the Valmiki Ramayana. I would add that in the first chapter, sage Narada tells Valmiki the original story of Rama in precise form.
Tulsidas version of Ramayana is romanticized versions which evokes emotions for Lord in devotee and masses can get connected spiritually. But Valmiki Ramayana is more Rama story as happened in treta yuga
This Creator of this video mentions the time when both versions were written... Valmiki Rishi wrote the original which is more sensical to materialistic aspect... Sant Tulsi Daas re-wrote it in a Bhaktipoorn flavor (little exaggerated but more engaging way for common people to understand), but at the time when such romanticizing of Lord Rama's history to re-connect the common people back to Sanatana Dharma was the need of the hour... Today is the time where we have more freedom and we should definitely look back on those texts from different point of views of different writers from different times...And rejoice the glory of our golden past...!
Why did you name this "... shocking differences.."? There is nothing shocking about the differences. Both are popular and enjoyable works of fiction; while Valmiki has strived to make his work as realistic as possible, Tulsi Das has gone all out to make his work superhuman, miracle-laden and, in the process, has rendered it somewhat incredible and far-fetched. But not shocking!
Works of fiction? That's Itihaas.
That's Itihaas.. not fiction. Maharshi Valmiki has not tried to make it realistic, he just wrote the happenings around him, bcz it was real.
Get Ur facts right first!
@@trailsofmusic6549 I agree that Rama's story has a lot of factual content; I am sure Rama and his sibliings, relatives etc did live a life as set forth in Valmiki Ramayana, travelled from Ayodhya through many forests to Lanka and back. But, all the same, Valmiki Ramayana is a work of fiction. In a work of fiction, the author joins snippets of factual content with his imagination of how everything fell into place. So Ramayana is not entirely Itihasa.
Sri Tulsi Das, on the other hand, picked the main thread of Rama's story from Valmiki Ramayana and let his imagination go into overdrive.
The only work that comes somewhat close to Itihasa is Mahabharata as written by Veda Vyasa. But that too has many instances where the author has used his poetic license.
@@harshmunjal4792 Would you consider Homer's Odessey as Itihasa? Parts of it probably are, but, many parts of it are not.
@@rssharma9 the Greeks don’t consider Iliad or odyssey as history. They are epic poems. So I guess it’s alright to say that. no one is going to get offended use verbal diarrhoea to explain otherwise. Rest I don’t know. Mahabharata and Ramayana might be exceptions who knows. ✌🏽
Uttar kand, sambhook vadh are all fake stories. Valmiki Ramayan was living in the time of Shri Ram. That is the only authentic source which should be considered. Buddhists tried to defame Shri Ram by making changes through Uttar kand. Ram charitra manas was written with a different mindset and during the period of Mughal tyranny. This portrayed Shri Ram as Bhagwaan Ram whereas Valmiki Ramayan refers to Shri Ram as Rajkumar Ram.
This narration has many flaws. I will mention only one. Uttarkand is not what the lady has narrated. There is no mention of Sita exile etc. Uttarkand is devoted to a very high plane where conversation of Garuda is narrated with Kagbhusundi. Not everyone understands the importance of this kand
I thought Ramayan was symbolic story of our Soul, we are all Raja Ram, Sita is the mind being kidnapped by King of Maya (Lanka) Ravan. Lanka is Maya and we need Hanuman, our Akul/Budhi to help the Soul/Ram save Sita/mind from Maya. When people were mostly illiterate, stories were used to convey the message of Truth.
You might have read Aadhyatma Ramayana.
Sorry Rama is History ,only atheist like Gandhi,Dr.Radha Krishna and others try to kill him by removing his identity as the supreme person.
@Maria brar: you understood it's true essence and explained it beautifully.
@@sunil1008 yes agreed on this 100%. These guys ruined real hindu scriptures
You think people were illiterate and dump before?
Beautifully explained...Maam can u suggest me a topic from ramayana for phd in English literature?
Kerala King; Congratulations, Ph.D on Ramayana from Hanuman university in Ayodhya. Good luck.
Many scholars have argued Tulsidaas technically started the unrealistic, unreasonable and questionable phase of Hinduism. Before that, Hinduism was based on character, nature worship and the religion of research. However, after the beginning of Tulsidaas era, it shifted more towards godly powers, myths and business more than a religion. No doubt, his Ramayana is very pleasant to be read, an excellent art of poetry, it is what that started the Kaliyuga in the purity of Baidik Sanaatan Dharma
Thanks for your precious information . It actually made me realise that the structure of both version are quite unique in their aspect and we have so many things to learn from it. Reading any version gives us glimpse of what real values and morals are. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I am embrassed to say that, any knowledge that I have about Ramayan, is a mixture of both the stories and now I am wayy more confused as to which one to follow
How can I get to read the original Ramayana written by Great Sage Maharishi Valmiki Ji.
@ rachita verma Valmiki is not a Saint from the beginning of his life. Initially is was an hunter,till the time he began to wrote Valmiki Ramayana
@@TaxatPro first get your facts right he was not a hunter. He was born a Brahmin. And people didn't give him the title of Maharishi like these days. You guys always demeaning Sanatan Dharma.
@@rachitaverma2205 mam don't misinterpret my words.I too had much respect over Sanatan dharma mam.What u said is correct mam that he was born to brahmin(sage Prachetasa) Valmiki was called as Ratnakara who lost his way when he went to forest at an younger age and was founded By a hunter who was passing by. That Hunter took care Of this Ratnakara .This is the reason for which he showed interest in hunting, After he become elder ,Narada maharshi explained everything and develop ed an interest towards Rama. Mam my point was why there were difference s between Ram charita manas and Valmiki Ramayana.And most of the knowledge i gained from my childhood was matched with Rama charita manas.,and when compared with authors Tulasidas has more edge over Valmiki (in my opinion). don't mind please if I hurt u .🙏
@Thoughtful Maniac Bro we both have respect over sanathana Dharma.I have used the word hunter,many people are using the word decoit ,what iam conveying is we can't change the facts,what we focus how he was transformed his thoughts process to a saint which inspires people.literally if u observe any hindu religious books related to Ramayana the words and narrations of Sri Tulasi das are reflected.I think u might have observed this.Based on that I told in such a manner.I am not against to Valmikiji.U r word dumbos hurted me,but still I respect your interest in Ramayana.By posting derogatory comments on eachother we become weak for other religions.Let us share thoughtful knowledge and develop.🙏🙏
@Thoughtful Maniac Tulasi das also might known about the work done by Valmiki ji,But still he does his work, so who follows whom depends on one's own interest bro
Actually it’s the Uttarkand when the Ramcharitamanas becomes questionable. Lord Ram asking his expecting wife to leave. It seems in contrast the Lord Ram’s character more in line with Tulsi’s times
I never knew that the uttarkand is not from the original Ramayana...
But i would like know if there is any mention of the events happened after the war in Ramayana and not mentioned in original Valmiki Ramayana, before the time of Sant Tulsidas...
@@pdd1240 no ...never heard or read about any events mentioned in any literature in between.
@@pdd1240 Uttarkand is not the part of original Ramayana. Therefore many learned dharmik scholars exercise extreme caution while reading Uttarkand of Ramcharitmanas.
Well in uttarkaand lord Ram did not asked mata Sita to leave ,It was mata Sita herself who said that she will go to the forest after hearing from Lord Ram what their praja was talking ,infact lord Ram denies that and saiid lets go together ,I dont want to liive without you but later on Mata Sita took promised from lord Ram to let her go alone so that praja dont blame lord Ram as well that he love his wife more than Ayodhya as a king and if he leaves they then iit will proved that mata sita was wrong and to save her lord Ram also went with her
The only part of the Ramayana which I will never be able to believe truly is the UttarKand .
Thanks for highlighting the differences. Great topic. Hope these are put in senior level carriculum.
*@SICME SICME* Hi, I wanna say something, please don't believe everything you see on the internet blindly, at least read Valmiki Ramayana for once in life to know what is exactly written there. In the very beginning of *_Valmiki_* Ramayana, Maharishi Valmiki himself mentioned Lord Rama as the incarnation of supreme GOD *_Vishnu_* who descent on earth to kill a demón King Ravana for the redemption of humankind. People don't worship Rama as the God for Tulsidas, they have been worshipping Rama as Vishnu's AVATAR since Valmiki Ramayana was written by Maharishi Valmiki himself.
Thank you for enlightening us on this. I tend to agree real Itihas is in Walmiki Ramayan as he was impartial writer. While Tulsidas is great devotee of Ram and definitely will hv influence on how he wil write plus local conditions for his time. Purposes are different abd hence as itihas we should treat walmiki Ramayan as prestige 🙏🙏
*@Shirish Yadav* Well, I wanna say something, please don't believe everything you see on the internet blindly, at least read Valmiki Ramayana for once in life to know what is exactly written there. In the very beginning of *_Valmiki_* Ramayana, Maharishi Valmiki himself mentioned Lord Rama as the incarnation of supreme GOD *_Vishnu_* who descent on earth to kill a demón King Ravana for the redemption of humankind. People don't worship Rama as the God for Tulsidas, they have been worshipping Rama as Vishnu's AVATAR since Valmiki Ramayana was written by Maharishi Valmiki himself.
Its ramayan not ramayana and itihas not saaaaa... Y do we have miss pronounce hindi words !!! Its not a english word !!!
I have read the Ram charit manas twice. The uttar kand of the Ram charit manas does not mention anything about Sita's exile. It mentions the birth of lav and kush but nothing about Sita's exile so it is interpreted that lav and kush were born in Ayodhya, not in the forest.
In the uttar kand of Ram charit manas, the story of sage bhushundi is mentioned who narrated the Ram katha to Shiva and later Garuda.
You got the last difference wrong.
Ya even i have read ramcharitmanas uttar kand . U are right bro.
Actually the exile part was in the Bengali version of Ramayan. It seems we mixed up all versions and created our own 😅😅
Where can I find that version? I was always disturbed by how Rama was characterized, and I could never believe that he would ever banish Sita. Where can I find the original?
@@sigmaarmstrong8460 gitapress gorakhpur version of Shri Ram Charit manas
@@sampalvmishra9651 Is it in English?
Jai Shree Ram 🙏🏼💙🏹
Please modulate the background music. It is distractingly loud.
Very interesting. A review of suxh texts with an open mind is not possible in todays times as there is a my right and your right competition is going on in toadays world.
how is sita syambar infamous , it is divine
If Tulsi Das lived during Mughals times then clearly his version is corrupted and Valmiki's Ramayan is more authentic.
Tho his intention was good and appreciable, it was not to add any sort of masala.....jai shri ram 🙏🏼❣
Absolutely I agree with you . In my opinion ,Tulsi Das did not have copyright to change the essence of the Ramayan written by the great sage Valmiki.
It's not corrupted, he was a ardent bhakt to his lord, he wrote a story of his lord. A story he heard, with time the stories change as people corrupt it. We can't take it as historical record.
@@yezdikdamo9613 He never changed it .
First copywrighting didn't exist then .
And Tulsidas Ji write the Ramcharitmanas as a bhakti Kavya, he was not changing original circumstances, that's how he believed it .
But the fact is in tv shows tulsi das ramaya incidents are used more because magical incidents entertainin the people more valmikk ramayan not as magical is it true and fact
Very beautiful explanation with a beautiful voice... Really helpful and thank you for sharing it🙏😊😇
💛💛💛Jai Shri Rama💚💚💚
Sorry for correction.
Laxman Rekha story is neither in Valmiki Ramayana nor in Ramcharitmanas.
Please review your facts
Devi aapke charan sparch
Your bhaktimay voice made me nearly cry 😭😭
Both are Respective in their own Ways.🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jai Shri Ram🚩🚩🚩🚩
I feel like uttara kand is what ruined rama's image for many people in this day and age. It went against what ramayana was created for. Rama redefined what a maryada purushottam is. But tulsidas ramayana took a step back in that regard with laxman rekha and sita's exile.
@Satyendra Upadhyay yes. Also, tulsidas ji wrote it promote the hindu dharma. Bcz of muslim rulers, a lot of hindu were losing their faith. So it did fulfil its goal in that way to increase the devotion towards rama in general public.
@@jojosoni no tulsi das funded by mughals
Every person who rewrite the history adds his own flavor and version in it...
But the main thing is that Tulsidas ji tried to keep the main story intact and it reached to smaller households of Bharat that time and reignited the flair of Bhakti during such hard times in Mughal Shasan...
And also thanks to Ramanad Sagar who made tv shows and our 90's generation got to know or at least introduced to our ancient history...
@@pdd1240 we should exercise extreme caution while reading Ramcharitmanas.
Your voice and the way you explain things is really beautiful! 🌼🙌
JAI SHRI RAM!
I think the balance of background music needs to be slightly low hence to hear you properly
Excellent summery- Jai Ram!
Thank you for watching :)
Background music is a big trouble while listening the original content..
her voice is so soothing, i could listen her all day ♥️
maharishi Valmiki ji said it (Ramayan) has 1,00,000 shloks !
do you have them.
the Valmiki Ramayan available now a days is not complete.
Tulsidas ji saw the whole Ramayan in his DHYAAN & wrote it down !
I don't like Tulsi das ramayan I want valmiki ramayan as it is
I don't believe in tulsidas ramayan even 1%
He wasn't there when this all happened and is he questioning maharishi Valmiki's version??
I mean only one is true right!! So by bringing his book he is literally saying Valmiki Ramayana wrong
He is no where near valkmiki ji who wrote actual incidents
Although you are correct
But still you should not compare two great devotees 😁
@@hossainboard86 i am not questioning his devotion i am saying his version is directly saying valmiki version is wrong which is not good and logical
@@hiddendagger7291 no i think that tulsidas's ramayan is just highlighting the metaphysical part of Ramayan
Although i prefer valmiki ramayan cuz it is original 😀
@@hiddendagger7291 some things are changed in tulsidas's ramayan so i guess you are correct partially
Sri Valmiki never mentioned about Mata Sita’s exile, which is logical. As the whole world witnessed Agni pariksha so why would any one questions Mata’s character.
More over Prabhu Shri Rama vowed infront of agni that he would accompany Sita for life long, so these exile and Luva Kusha part does not make sense to me.
శ్రీరామ రామ రామ 🙏🏼💐
As an Indonesian, I think we are more familiar with the latest version
So Uttar Kand is like Dragonball GT. Good, as perceived by a section, but non-canon.
It is sad that we believe everything that s yt video tells. No hate but just this part is inaccurate. Actually Uttar kand is present in valmiki Ramayan but not in ramcharitmanas. It would be better if you look this up yourself! :)
@@tanmay6207 also Uttar Kand is so inconsistent with the main epic. It screams of being non-canon 🙂
@@rvazz90 well much more knowledgeable men(who have more knowledge of dharmshastras) have approved Uttar kand and call it authentic. These things you call 'inconsistencies' obviously seem wrong accordingly current times (political correctness and equality ). Anyways as always find things out for yourselves that will be the best way. And it's your own opinion and perspective and I respect it
@@tanmay6207 Who are those knowledgable men ?
@@lautheimpaler4686 almost all prominent dharmacharyas like shankaracharya or heads of other sampradaya and panths
Once somebody asked to our social science teacher that why people feel that Ramayana or for that matter other old works are myth and not real,she explained that these events happened so far back that people are not able to relate to it and thus feel it cannot be real similarly future generations will feel the same thing about events happening now in say next 5000-10000 years as they will not be able to contemplate the events happened in our era. Important point is we believe we are living in advanced age while we tend to believe that era of Ramayana was pre- historic age but opposite is true we are living in degrading society which will collapse in forthcoming years.
🕉🙏🙏🙏🧡 very interesting about botanical study confirming all the plant species told by Valmiki along the route
Thank you for this explanation….I am fairly new to the story of Ram and I am first reading the Ramachartimanas which has taken me a couple of years….i need help as a westerner this is very different way of seeing God. Much appreciation 🙏
As a westerner myself but from an Indian background I have purchased the Valmiki version and eager to start reading it. Have you started reading yours yet?
Since Earth was born.. there have been many Mahabharatha and Ramayana stories at each end of Kaliyuga.. each is slightly different from each other.. So no wonder why there is a slight difference now..
Well ,yup this correct this why there are differences cuz ppl who have divine power to watch the past,present,future maybe did not saw the newest ramyana and mahabharta but they saw the mahabharta and ramyana of different time
So the thing is that we only read or see ramayan or things about God through a text or like in shows now.. thats why theres always a change.. the real story is always different as the the storys can be changed by the authors
Sorry my friend , I am not happy with your baseless and logic less comment . It does not make any sense at all .
@@yezdikdamo9613 why you think its baseless.
It is good and informative. But the left liberal kind of thinking percolated in the narration in the form of feminism and also to a less extent in form of apartheid.
The Laxman Rekha was drawn for safety of Sita whom Laxman regarded as his eternal mother. The misinterpretation is like considering a protective boundary wall with an obstruction for movement. Also abandonment of mother Sita was no way a punishment to a woman, but a metaphor of social degradation (departure of Laxmi) when people of a state moves away from the path of devotion.
Hanuman has been portrayed as the real hero and he is an avatar of Lord Shiva. Entire Sunderkand is devoted to the brilliance and valour of Lord Hanuman. He was never shown as a lowly creature, rather he was heavily praised by Lord Ram when the former visited the later in guise of a Brahman. By the way, many creatures have been given humanly role in ramayana and manas (birds, bears, monkeys etc).
Please narrate these stories once you understood them in totality. Else you may do more harm than benefit.
Jay Sita Ram!!!
@swarup agree with you. Also, people forget that the incident of Sita leaving Ram later as it is mentioned in Tulsi Das version is in line with the curse that Lord Vishnu was once given by Vrinda during the Jalandhar leela that he will always suffer separation from his wife. He accepts it and in all of his avatars even on earth as human, he undergoes this unfortunate curse.
Such a beautiful comment, due to some glitch I can't like it though hence commenting here
Rightly said
Valmiki ramayana is more realistic and logical
Stop adding ‘lord’
Purely beautiful history and your voice is very calming dear sister. Thank you 🙏
Wow. Really important information. It doesn't matter world or liberals believe our ancient history or not. But according to me valmiki ramayan version was way more realistic & believable. Also hanuman not being monkey and maybe he was Neanderthal could be true. Cause features are really similar. Also lots of parts were believable. Whereas tulsidas's version put little bit more spice in the story. But whatever the story is, the most important is the msg of the story.....jai shri ram🙏🙏🙏
I don’t agree with the narrator saying that the uttar kand is the most beautiful part. I completely disagree with this glorification of womens suffering. The difference between the original and tulsi das is the influence of culture. A culture that suddenly started moving towards oppression of women by putting them on a pedestal. Ram too could have become impure while he was away from his wife. Why did he get to be king? Why didn’t Sita go back to her kingdom?
The laksham Rekha and agni pariksha don’t exist in the original because the culture was different.
There was no question of ram being impure though, as he did not touch even the shadow of any other woman other his wife during vanvaas, example mandodari
@@xyz-vb3gw there was no question about Sita either yet the burden was on her. Sita could have doubted ram too. This didn’t happen in the original because the culture back then was different and women were treated with much more respect and dignity than when Tulsidas wrote
@@MsTVPERSON well ram never doubted Sita either because he knew that Ravan could never touch her, it was the praja. And yeah in the original it's Didn't happen
I don’t think you understand what I am trying to say at all and have fixated on a point that I am not even contesting. If you read my comment again you’ll understand.
If anyone doubted it, he still acted on it. There was never a doubt in the original because the status of women was different in society and so was peoples mentality. This changed by the time tulsidas write his version.
I’m not disputing the story. I know the story very well - I am making a comment on the difference between the two version and why might they have come about.
I get you. I was just replying to your "ram being impure" part, rest I agree with you
Good initiative. A few observations:
1. Not sure what "Sanskrit Brahmins ridiculed" means. Is it intended to say "Sanskrit scholars"?
2. Ramcharitmanas probably had a good reach in the Awadhi-speaking area. It is hard to believe that it would have spread beyond those regions.
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Maharishi Valmaki's Ramayana is the only authentic Ramayana.
You missed one thing- In Ramcharitmanas, Sumitra has two sons i.e. Lakshman and Shatrughn but in Valmiki's Ramayan, Kaikeyi has two sons i.e. Bharat and Shatrughn
Please stop saying that it is bible for hindus instead bible should be called as The Ramayana of Christian s.
Valmiki Ramayana is more realistic.
Just Awesome great Video I am speechless hope my Mother was alive to have a discussion with your knowledge she had been styding and telling stories of the realism associated with Ramayana she knew all the versions as you have mentioned I am overwhelmed that you atre doing the research
Proud to be hindu proud to be sanatani 🚩💪🏻
Half of the points mentioned in the video are incorrect and not been researched. In Valmiki Ramayan, the 7th chapter is well mentioned ‘Uttar Kand’. Kindly read before post such misinformed video.
Secondly in Ramcharitmanas there is also no mention of Lakshman rekha.
Where can I get Valmiki Ramayan??
The most beautiful Ramayana was written by Hanuman, the hanumat Ramayana. Sadly, it was destroyed by Hanuman himself, who did not want Valmiki muni's Ramayana to be discredited.🙏🙏
Uttar kand difference is opposite .
Valmiki Ramayan has luv kush while Ramcharitmanas doesn’t have it.
You are right. Had not you cleared it, I was going to mention it. I have read uttar kand of ram charit manas. It describes to merits of ram rajya only but not about lav kush.
@@agroyee yess sir
I guess reading scriptures is better tan watching videos
Wow! Mind-blowing
valmiki is original and initial one na?? its like contemporary person wrote according to that time and then tulsidas wrote it as devotee. but underlying essence remain intact in both
Beautifully explained
Thank you :) Happy you liked it.
I am sorry but your comparison is factually wrong. Most incorrect is your comment on Uttarkand of Goswami Tulsidasji's Ramcharit manas. In manas Goswamiji ends with Ram rajya being established and there is reference to birth of Luv-Kush. There is no reference to exile of mata Sita. Please read, infact he's dedicated special chaupai on people preaching false hood about all this story.
There are many mistakes in this comparison I request the people who have watched this to not make an opinion based on it. However, take this as a motivation to fo your own 'swadhyay' (self learning)
Yes
Most informative video. Thank you . ❤️Jai Shri Ram 🙏❤️
Background music is beautiful.
So the real question is Which Ramayana is Authentic without any fabrications??
Ram is said to be an incarnation of vishnu as stated in valmiki ramayana as well. here is the verse:
akshayyam madhu hantaaram jaanaami tvaam sureshvaram |
dhanuSho asya paraamarshaat svasti te astu paraMtapa || 1-76-17
I have realized your touch of nature as that of the Immutable Supreme Being, God of Gods, the Exterminator of the demon Madhu, namely Vishnu, by the touch of your handling that bow... oh, enemy-inflamer, blessedness alone betides you...
if ramayana is historical then only one chain of events must be true. which version of ramayana is correct?
Bhavishyottar Puraan Chp. 4 shlok 20 - Bhagwaan shiv says - Oh Goddess parvati, Valmiki will come as tulsidas In Kaliyug, And Will compose this narration of shree Ram In the vernacular and easy language (वाल्मिलिस्तुलसिदासः कलौ देवि भविष्यति रामचंद्रकथामेताम भाषा बुद्धाम करिश्यति)
As you are saying, it shouldn't be said Bible of HINDUS Ramayan is for all Humanity.
Upload the Hindi Version of this Video Today Please.
Valmiki's writing is " The Ramayan " , the original historical scripture. Tulsidas' writing is not at all " The Ramayan " , a man-made fictional book.