Thanks for the awesome video. Fun science fact: Stainless does rust but it rusts to make chromium oxide which protects the iron inside the stainless steel alloy from becoming iron oxide, which is known as traditional rust.
The best roofing nails don’t come in a coil. There is always more opportunity to overdrive the nails through the shingles. 80 percent of the roofs we do are hand driven with a hatchet and hot dipped nails. Great content video. I pick up a little knowledge from every video.
If I DIY a roof repair involving replacing subroof, and then using tape in between the subroof boards, and then if I replace the underlayment, and then replace the shingles... What should I use? Which products from Home Depot? Should I use nails or screws? What size and type of nails or screws should I use for attaching the subroof to the joists? What type and size nails or screws should I use to attach the plastic nail caps that hold down the underlayment? What size and type of nails or screws should I use to attach the shingles to the subroof? How far away should all these nails and screws (for the sub roof, the underlayment, and the shingles) be placed away from each other? Three inches, six inches, twelve inches, eighteen inches? Should I get some kind of glue to glue the shingles down too to each other at the end? If I do it by hand with a regular drill or with a hammer (for all these screws and/or nails, without a nail gun) what kinds of nails and/or screws should I use? If I'm replacing 500 sqft of roof, do I really need a nail gun? If so, what kind should I get? The site doesn't have electricity (it's an investment property of mine, a foreclosure), so if I need a nail gun, I'm guessing I'll need a generator for electricity, then an air compressor, and then the nail gun too? And then I'll need various lines for the air to travel to for the nail gun, right? Can you tell me all about that? I'd absolutely love a video! Thanks!!! Thanks a million in advance! PS- I'm really hoping I don't need the nail gun, an air compressor, or a generator, so what kinds of nails and/or screws should I put in by hand... Don't worry, I can spend days doing this roof... I'm guessing it will take me, by myself, three or four days. Lastly, should I rent (instead of buy) the nail gun, compressor, and generator? Help! LOL!
SVEN and OLEY were up on the roof shingling pounding in the galvie roof nails from a big box, every so often SVEN would grab a nail, look and then pitch it off the roof. OLEY started yellin SVEN!! WTF you throwin them nails off the roof!?!! SVEN said LOOK they pointing the wrong way! the point is facing the wrong way! OLEY said `tchyo za ga`lima?! THOSE ARE FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOF!!...
I saw in another video today, (recently have water leak in roof/shingles due to very high winds over the last couple of weekends), but in the video, the person (and I am sorry, been watching A LOT of videos, mostly from your channel and Mr. Lipinskiy, I did not book mark it), at any rate, the person advised that the electro galvanized nails seem to have rusted EXTREMELY fast/in a short period of time and the heads of the nails were popping off, not holding the shingles down. I would like to know if this is the actual case. I may have to replace my roof in the coming days, and am researching ALL or as many aspects of it (as a home owner, and NOT a roofer, so am doing my due diligence), thank you in advance. Mike M
I think it is almost irresponsible to use electro-galvanized nails on roofs. It is rated for indoor use which a roof definitely isn't, and they have a lifespan of only 5-10 years under good conditions.
Great video and tips🤙🏼💪🏼 You just got a new subscriber thanx to this video. Looking forward to future videos with tips and advice!!!!! Again, thank you🤙🏼
@@richardblyudzhyus1543 not much. I saw that last name and knew it was you. I’m not trying to brag but I am the only US citizen that can spell it right haha. Hope you are well my friend. I’m going to go to one of Dmitry’s classes soon so let me know if you are going and I’ll head to the same one.
Might have added what is really needed rather than what code will allow or what is out there. A roof is supposed to keep out the elements. So why would nails rust at all unless the shingles have failed? A good roof should last 20 to 30 years, or even more for some. The life expectancy of an electro-galvanized nail is 5 to 10 years, maybe 15 under ideal conditions, which a roof certainly isn't. It is recommended for indoor uses, but it gets used on roofs all the time. If it is MY roof, would I choose electro-galvanized nails? I don't think so. Hot-dipped galvanized nails have a lifespan of 35-50 years. Now that's within the lifetime of a good roof. They are rated for outdoor use which only makes sense on a roof, at least to me. Even though the roof is covered by shingles, moisture will still find a way under and do its work, which is why decks rot away. So I WOULD use hot-dipped galvanized nails on my roof. Ring-shank nails? Holds twice as good as smooth shank, so might be a good idea in a high wind area or used with an OSB deck which doesn't hold a nail as well.
You should educate public better on galvanizing types. You have hot dip galv and electrogalv. Local store will carry cheap electrogalv nails only. Hot dip galvanized and stainless steel nails are special order. Thank you.
Hello, I have a new Dewalt pneumatic roofing coil nailer DW45RN. I have a two part question. I’m using hand me down, coil nails 1 1/2 x 3.6mm My nailer says 3mm is required. Will this give me problems? Also it seems Dewalt offers electro shanks nails and I don’t see ringed. Could I run ringed nails though it? Does it matter? Thanks in advance
For open eaves some companies use staples instead, though those can show through if too long. Best you can to is take into account of the width of the shingles + deck and choose a length no more than that, perhaps standard 3/4-inch roofing nails. You might try a 1-inch nail just to see if that works.
I wish we could find a manufacturing plant in USA or Canada that can produce amazing coil nails with large heads These China nails the heads break off Or the heads are not regular Bostich use to have great nails but don’t make them anymore
The nails only need to last as long as the life of the shingles. If your in a wet environment then use stainless. The average installation is fine with electro galvanized nails. Ring shank nails are overkill so don't waste your money.
@slydog7131 You do not know what you are talking about. I've been roofing and contracting since 1971 and my dad since1952, and unless you've got a real life experience to contradict that then pay attention. We started out using Angel hot dipped galvanized nails and they lasted forever. Then electro-galvanized nails came out in 1973 and it was a God send as the hot dipped tore up the fingers. I've removed more shingles than most and unless the roof is installed improperly or in a heavy water situation then galvanized will last the life of the roof.
Should you use USA made nails instead of Made in China nails? What should be the difference in total nail cost for a 58 sq roof with OC Duration Flex shingles?
“Stainless nails will not rust.” -This is not necessarily accurate. A 400 series stainless will ABSOLUTELY rust. A 300 series will not, though it is more expensive than the nails you showed.
The stainless nails in the video ARE 304 stainless, so these are designed not to rust. These are the only stainless coil nails my local ABC supply because they are used for this exact reason.
Actually all stainless rusts. The main rust that forms is chromium oxide. For the sake of roofing where the nails are protected by the shingles being shingles over the nails I would like stainless as extra protection over galvanized. Glad for th video cause I didn't think about the nails with rings to give the more bite. I do see a lot of nails working their way out of the roof and raising the shingles. Not sure what caused that exactly. Maybe moisture in the wood and temperature fluctuations causing the wood to squeeze on the nails and squeeze the out.
@@gregbernard4466 Good reply, though hot-dipped galvanized nails will last 35-50 years, which I'd say is enough for most roofs. For roofs designed to truly last 50 years or more, stainless steel should be considered.
So what your saying is: I need to be buying them by the truckload down here in Tennessee and shipping to y’all for a bargain at $300 a box and I’d be rich?! Lol
Best and Worst Roofing Nails: Roof System Superheroes Comment below if you have a question, like it if you want more content like this! 00:25 Galvanized coil nail 01:03 Ring shank coil nail 01:35 Stainless steel coil nail 02:12 Copper nail 02:57 Plastic cap nail 03:25 Metal cap nail 04:00 Why certain nails rust
ya, would be cool to see an update of what nails you guys have found to be the best bang for the buck. like what's cheaper than stainless but also rust resistant. some of the hot dipped coil offerings around $100 a box maybe? any better than others?
@@slydog7131 Jesus, I picked up a couple boxes of those in 2022 and I made that comment for $89 a box. The grip rite hot dip, that is absolutely bonkers they are 2x now
Use nothing but hot dipped. Worth it
Thanks for the awesome video. Fun science fact: Stainless does rust but it rusts to make chromium oxide which protects the iron inside the stainless steel alloy from becoming iron oxide, which is known as traditional rust.
The best roofing nails don’t come in a coil. There is always more opportunity to overdrive the nails through the shingles. 80 percent of the roofs we do are hand driven with a hatchet and hot dipped nails. Great content video. I pick up a little knowledge from every video.
There’s the classic argument of hand nails vs nail guns.
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So you are giving workers carpal tunnel syndrome prematurely and wrist injury so someone has a little better roof.. not worth the cost in human health
Can just set pressure a bit lower and finish with a hammer
I watched a you tube video on Duration Shingles by Ownens Corning...And the best nail for bad weather is Stainless Steel nails.
They are some tough nails! But you definitely pay a ton for them!
Great video! Thanks!
Great video ! these coil nails are our mainly exports products.
If I DIY a roof repair involving replacing subroof, and then using tape in between the subroof boards, and then if I replace the underlayment, and then replace the shingles... What should I use? Which products from Home Depot? Should I use nails or screws? What size and type of nails or screws should I use for attaching the subroof to the joists? What type and size nails or screws should I use to attach the plastic nail caps that hold down the underlayment? What size and type of nails or screws should I use to attach the shingles to the subroof? How far away should all these nails and screws (for the sub roof, the underlayment, and the shingles) be placed away from each other? Three inches, six inches, twelve inches, eighteen inches? Should I get some kind of glue to glue the shingles down too to each other at the end? If I do it by hand with a regular drill or with a hammer (for all these screws and/or nails, without a nail gun) what kinds of nails and/or screws should I use? If I'm replacing 500 sqft of roof, do I really need a nail gun? If so, what kind should I get? The site doesn't have electricity (it's an investment property of mine, a foreclosure), so if I need a nail gun, I'm guessing I'll need a generator for electricity, then an air compressor, and then the nail gun too? And then I'll need various lines for the air to travel to for the nail gun, right? Can you tell me all about that? I'd absolutely love a video! Thanks!!! Thanks a million in advance! PS- I'm really hoping I don't need the nail gun, an air compressor, or a generator, so what kinds of nails and/or screws should I put in by hand... Don't worry, I can spend days doing this roof... I'm guessing it will take me, by myself, three or four days. Lastly, should I rent (instead of buy) the nail gun, compressor, and generator? Help! LOL!
Thanks guys!
Thank YOU for watching!
SVEN and OLEY were up on the roof shingling pounding in the galvie roof nails from a big box, every so often SVEN would grab a nail, look and then pitch it off the roof. OLEY started yellin SVEN!! WTF you throwin them nails off the roof!?!! SVEN said LOOK they pointing the wrong way! the point is facing the wrong way! OLEY said `tchyo za ga`lima?! THOSE ARE FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOF!!...
I saw in another video today, (recently have water leak in roof/shingles due to very high winds over the last couple of weekends), but in the video, the person (and I am sorry, been watching A LOT of videos, mostly from your channel and Mr. Lipinskiy, I did not book mark it), at any rate, the person advised that the electro galvanized nails seem to have rusted EXTREMELY fast/in a short period of time and the heads of the nails were popping off, not holding the shingles down. I would like to know if this is the actual case. I may have to replace my roof in the coming days, and am researching ALL or as many aspects of it (as a home owner, and NOT a roofer, so am doing my due diligence), thank you in advance.
Mike M
I think it is almost irresponsible to use electro-galvanized nails on roofs. It is rated for indoor use which a roof definitely isn't, and they have a lifespan of only 5-10 years under good conditions.
Great video and tips🤙🏼💪🏼
You just got a new subscriber thanx to this video.
Looking forward to future videos with tips and advice!!!!!
Again, thank you🤙🏼
The stainless steel ring shank nails are amazing, but definitely pricey
Might as well be made out of gold...
What’s up Rich!
@@thomasfisher2 what’s going on man? Long time no talk.
@@richardblyudzhyus1543 not much. I saw that last name and knew it was you. I’m not trying to brag but I am the only US citizen that can spell it right haha. Hope you are well my friend. I’m going to go to one of Dmitry’s classes soon so let me know if you are going and I’ll head to the same one.
Just spent $1600 for 54,000 stainless... just for 5 roofs at the coast. Gets even more expensive when you have to do a 6 or 9 nail pattern.
I switched to ring shank but the Hitachi guns seem to doubble shot or jam up more often. Didnt know they also make them in stainless😻
Good luck on removing them 15 years later.....
dude what length nail do you recommend and what gauge thickness do you recommend - specifically, for composite shingle and ridge lines
What kind of nails should I use for tin , this is old tin I’m putting on a goat shed ? It’s 5 rib tin I guess is the correct name but not certain
Might have added what is really needed rather than what code will allow or what is out there. A roof is supposed to keep out the elements. So why would nails rust at all unless the shingles have failed? A good roof should last 20 to 30 years, or even more for some. The life expectancy of an electro-galvanized nail is 5 to 10 years, maybe 15 under ideal conditions, which a roof certainly isn't. It is recommended for indoor uses, but it gets used on roofs all the time. If it is MY roof, would I choose electro-galvanized nails? I don't think so. Hot-dipped galvanized nails have a lifespan of 35-50 years. Now that's within the lifetime of a good roof. They are rated for outdoor use which only makes sense on a roof, at least to me. Even though the roof is covered by shingles, moisture will still find a way under and do its work, which is why decks rot away. So I WOULD use hot-dipped galvanized nails on my roof. Ring-shank nails? Holds twice as good as smooth shank, so might be a good idea in a high wind area or used with an OSB deck which doesn't hold a nail as well.
Nails don’t do much if you don’t have decking 🤪
You should educate public better on galvanizing types.
You have hot dip galv and electrogalv. Local store will carry cheap electrogalv nails only.
Hot dip galvanized and stainless steel nails are special order.
Thank you.
Nail doesnt have to rust for it to leak ?
I have trouble with plastic head nails bending, damaging the roofing & needing to have drill holes first
that is just becase the cheaper material for those cap nails i think
Hello, I have a new Dewalt pneumatic roofing coil nailer
DW45RN.
I have a two part question.
I’m using hand me down, coil nails 1 1/2 x 3.6mm
My nailer says 3mm is required.
Will this give me problems?
Also it seems Dewalt offers electro shanks nails and I don’t see ringed. Could I run ringed nails though it? Does it matter?
Thanks in advance
Good job Brent but the video would be better with the stache.
En route sir
Do a video on plywood!
We already did OSB VS plywood this year!
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I’ll have to check that out!
what size roofing nails do you use in the eaves so they wont shine through?
For open eaves some companies use staples instead, though those can show through if too long. Best you can to is take into account of the width of the shingles + deck and choose a length no more than that, perhaps standard 3/4-inch roofing nails. You might try a 1-inch nail just to see if that works.
I wish we could find a manufacturing plant in USA or Canada that can produce amazing coil nails with large heads
These China nails the heads break off
Or the heads are not regular
Bostich use to have great nails but don’t make them anymore
There is a manufacturer in the United States but I don’t know the name at the moment.
@@roofingtips - Can you provide the ZuSA Manufacturer information please. Email to william.presley@gmail.com
Please provide a USA roofing nail source.
@@williampresley5727 they are expensive. simpson makes a really high quality stainless nail. around $400 for a box of 7200
we have high quality coil nails,but most customers in the USA want us to make it cheaper. So price decides quality.
The nails only need to last as long as the life of the shingles. If your in a wet environment then use stainless. The average installation is fine with electro galvanized nails. Ring shank nails are overkill so don't waste your money.
Electro-galvanized nails have a lifespan of 5-10 years.
@slydog7131 You do not know what you are talking about. I've been roofing and contracting since 1971 and my dad since1952, and unless you've got a real life experience to contradict that then pay attention. We started out using Angel hot dipped galvanized nails and they lasted forever. Then electro-galvanized nails came out in 1973 and it was a God send as the hot dipped tore up the fingers. I've removed more shingles than most and unless the roof is installed improperly or in a heavy water situation then galvanized will last the life of the roof.
Should you use USA made nails instead of Made in China nails? What should be the difference in total nail cost for a 58 sq roof with OC Duration Flex shingles?
“Stainless nails will not rust.” -This is not necessarily accurate. A 400 series stainless will ABSOLUTELY rust. A 300 series will not, though it is more expensive than the nails you showed.
You are not wrong we could be more accurate
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I actually found some 304 stainless nails from Best Materials for a similar price
The stainless nails in the video ARE 304 stainless, so these are designed not to rust. These are the only stainless coil nails my local ABC supply because they are used for this exact reason.
Actually all stainless rusts. The main rust that forms is chromium oxide. For the sake of roofing where the nails are protected by the shingles being shingles over the nails I would like stainless as extra protection over galvanized. Glad for th video cause I didn't think about the nails with rings to give the more bite. I do see a lot of nails working their way out of the roof and raising the shingles. Not sure what caused that exactly. Maybe moisture in the wood and temperature fluctuations causing the wood to squeeze on the nails and squeeze the out.
@@gregbernard4466 Good reply, though hot-dipped galvanized nails will last 35-50 years, which I'd say is enough for most roofs. For roofs designed to truly last 50 years or more, stainless steel should be considered.
Stainless nails here is 400$ a box
What market is that? $400 wow
Ontario
So what your saying is: I need to be buying them by the truckload down here in Tennessee and shipping to y’all for a bargain at $300 a box and I’d be rich?! Lol
The regular coil nail is now 30-40$ a box
Hand nails from Quebec is 20 lbs is 50-90$
40 lbs is almost 200$
Canadian
Best and Worst Roofing Nails: Roof System Superheroes
Comment below if you have a question, like it if you want more content like this!
00:25 Galvanized coil nail
01:03 Ring shank coil nail
01:35 Stainless steel coil nail
02:12 Copper nail
02:57 Plastic cap nail
03:25 Metal cap nail
04:00 Why certain nails rust
ya, would be cool to see an update of what nails you guys have found to be the best bang for the buck. like what's cheaper than stainless but also rust resistant. some of the hot dipped coil offerings around $100 a box maybe? any better than others?
@@gen-X-trader It's fun to read about the old days. They now cost > $180 a box.
@@slydog7131 Jesus, I picked up a couple boxes of those in 2022 and I made that comment for $89 a box. The grip rite hot dip, that is absolutely bonkers they are 2x now