Play 'Outside' With Scales You Already Know...
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Progress to an advanced level of guitar playing - bulletproofguitarplayer.com In todays lesson, we take a look at the concept of outside playing. 'Outside' licks are ones that contain notes from outside of the key. This is something that I have recently been studying from Nashville-based session player Shawn Tubbs.
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I've been quite advanced at this wrong note playing right from the beginning.
Haha😂🙊
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Great tip can't wait to try!
Keep’em comin bro! And thank you for your time.
Thanks for this video, Ross! You’re a fantastic guitarist and a great resource!
Lovely stuff. Once I find the right notes this will be very helpful :P
Solid lesson! Thanks for sharing.
Excellent 💯🎸
Great explanation love it👍💯
Great licks! Wow! Such a cool trick ideas!
I was waiting for Tubbs vid for ages! Thanks Ross cheers
Thank you so much, sir! You made everything easy to understand! :)
Thank you!
Seriously great lesson. More of that please!
Thanks, this is helpfull !
Great lesson
About half way through the video and it's helped me out a bunch thank you so much !!!! : * )
great stuff
thx!👌
Thanks for this great lesson, very clear and helpful! It's so cool that you mentioned Shawn Tubbs and talked about his approach to outside playing. I'm a very big fan of his playing and feel he deserves much more recognition. But I have a feeling that Shawn probably knows more theory than he lets on! He always says one of his main musical influences is Robben Ford, who certainly knows about using different scales and modes to solo over chord changes. Thanks again, love your playing.
Sometimes I hit a wrong note.. I just call it Jazz
Only works if the chords underneath match your wrong note :P YES I KNOW IT'S A JOKE, IT'S AN OLD ONE!
HAHAHA same
Love to see more of these vids great job! (Maybe using melodic minor for outside sounds.)
amazing video! I really like your video.
You are my favourite guitar youtuber . Amazing amazing talented . You are far better then many guitar stars !
Nice. Thankyou muchly.
Best teacher on youtube
You are the BEST!!
I was just about to write that your opening runs there were very “Shawn Tubbs like” and well, there you go... nicely done again!
Ross you’re improving every week. Studying Shawn Tubbs, love it. You are a very dangerous young man! Btw, playing wrong notes never sounded more right than they do now. Great lesson!
Great video! :)
you're the best dude
Ohh new video . Miss you bro
This is a cool way to think about it. I kept gravitating towards 1/2-whole diminished and away from mixolydian when I was working on the lick tho and wound up in a different place… which is also pretty cool I guess.
Normally I rely on chromatisism to sound "outside the scale" but I like what you did here... great lesson
It's something that takes a while to get but aye agree with ye. Way I do it is base whatever around a scale, but as long as you reference mostly back to the root(or chord tones) you can do what you like out side the scale. Basically every scale has 12 notes. It's all in the phrasing really.
dude thanks, I was looking for this sound for a long time but I didn't know how its done or what it's called.
Nice editing. 💜
Thank you!
Lick 1 3:08
Lick 1 slow with tabs 3:17
Lick 2 4:47
Lick 2 slow with tabs 4:53
I’ve been using this technique for years- play smoothly around a scale until I screw up, then try to fix it in the next phrase!
bro your vid rock
The juice!
did you change your pick ups back to the original ones?
Hey dude m following you
Heya Ross, this is something I've been trying to grok for quite a long time. My problem with his approach is that it doesn't really work very well for *improvising* because you don't have a practiced mental framework to guide you. For a seasoned player / pro like yourself, it's not so hard, but a player still stuck in pentatonic boxes will probably sound bad or pretentious... the scene in Spinal Tap where they try to play jazz comes to mind.
What is working for me is a longer game but very satisfying so far.
1) I started learning both diminished scale shapes, and how to resolve them from V to I. Very simple and sounds good regardless of what notes in that scale you are playing. It just takes time to get the shapes imprinted in your brain and fingers.
2) Similarly, I then moved to learning melodic minor as a altered dominant scale (I, bII, bIII, III, bV etc). Don't think of it as a *minor scale* if you playing V to I. It's not that much extra work to learn the scale as a minor and an altered dominant scale. Same fingerings and licks. Again, it resolves nicely.
The real benefit of these scales is that they are slightly horizontally shifted from the normal pentatonic or cage boxes, and that forces your brain to bridge what was formerly separate islands and see the good stuff in-between. I wish I would have figured this out a long time ago.
i'm struggling with the second one. is it mixolydian with the major 7th added?
Aye, it's the same principle as in Jazz when we play walking bass lines with chord melody. You can shift either side so long as you land in the right place.
Hope you're well pal. (Btw, Did you get my email?)
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I'm pretty sure there's a quote from Coltrane basically saying that the best way to play "out" is to just play a lick and then play it a semitone above/below, and then back again
Its sounds fusion guitar to me is that the alternate way to cal it??
“Wrong notes” make “right” ones sound more “right”
Hey there brotha, Love the custom shop Fender but dang them frets look sorta umm.... Abused, kinda flat in the upper register. Great work BTW.
William Farrar that comes w major ass kicking
6:46 pretty sure I've heard those notes in Harry Potter
What really works great is to play those phrases with the "wrong note" twice. Try it. It works great.
ROSS CAMPBELL,
can you make a video showing examples of using "outside NOTES" of the pentatonic scale. Hotel California Don Felder uses a lot of Outside notes that are not in the pentatonic box. The solo in GNR sweet child of mine also uses a lot of "outside notes" from the pentatonic box.
These are the 2 major examples of know of that use the pentatonic box but use outside notes as melodic notes. If you know any other guitar solos or examples to help out please make a video explaining this to learn from. Thanks for the help
Hey Bill, I've got a couple of lessons on Slash's playing style that will help you understand this. One of them is about his use of the harmonic minor scale and I actually do break down part of the Sweet Child solo.
@@RossCampbellGuitarist yes i have seen that video because also can you make a video explaining other guitar solos that are playing out of the box using outside notes in their guitar solos or phrasing.
Randy rhoads uses classical Modes but I don't know how randy rhoads applied classical modes in his phrasing or licks.
Example is how can I finger tap my guitar licks to make them sound like harmonic minor finger tapping and diminished finger tapping? because my finger tapping licks only sound like major or minor i can't make my finger tapping licks sound harmonic minor or diminished how can I do this? can you make a video showing how to do this?
@@RossCampbellGuitarist can you make a video explaining how the guitar solo of the eagles hotel California used a lot of outside notes not from the pentatonic scale and also the guitar solo in sweet home alabama used a lot of outside notes not from the pentatonic scale. How can you play outside notes without sounding like you are hitting wrong notes? like how they used outside notes in those guitar solos
Great videos!
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Why happened to the dmarzios?
Have another look at your neck diagram @5'08" for C mixolydian .....
What about it?
@@RossCampbellGuitarist if C mixolydian which position is that diagram for ? if pos 1 then what's happening at the B & high E strings ? as thought that was b -10/11/13 & e-10/12/13? As the diagram is now there is G on the 8th fret of the b string also G on the 12th fret of the g string ? Thanks. Lick is great !
There is no "outside". Single note playing is describing harmony.
Each note of the chromatic scale is available to you to imply extensions on top of the harmony that is backing you.
If you play E flat over an Emin triad, it sounds outside but your are implying E melodir minor or several other minor scales that have a raised 7 degree. Thinking in terms of harmony is the only way where your solos would sound any good.
Amazing speech ! Sounds like there is some kind of scottish accent going on...sorry but it keeps me smiling ahah
That'll be because I'm Scottish ;) Haha thanks!
It is absolutely rare theme of video, no analog, it is very cool man and thanks for that, but for my ear it's sound ugly😬 imho
Outch. It isn't my level ! :-D
Yep, this is an interesting subject when you really get into the subjectiveness of what is acceptable. we are conditioned to believe that there is right and wrong in an artform and while that can serve as a nice guideline, it can also make you sound as predictable and uncreative as everyone else. i guess if your 'wrong notes' have a definite function as far as a voice leading device, yo can pretty much get away with anything, provided you stay on beat and don't deviate from tonality for too long. like for instance, playing an altered scale for an entire piece of music...........and then who knows, maybe even that can start feeling somewhat comfortable depending on howflexible you allow your expectations to be...
Isnt it side stepping
You want an outside sound? Just wriggle your finger and don't over think.
The passing tones and chromatics are often the most poignant notes in solos.
There aren't wrong notes. There are just Jazz notes.