I won't have evidence of it, but in FM21 I had a chinese regen called "Jenkins Jenkins" come through at Bayern. He went to make 110 appearances for the national team and fired Bayern to back to back champions leagues.
The minus transfer budgets is part of the club vision the clubs want you to sell in order to buy, that is what is happening to me in my Vitesse save so I assume other clubs are the same.
When I played as Ado Den Haag for the first like seasons at the end of each one they removed my whole transferbudget and put me 5 million in the minus. I think its one of the season goal thingies they have there.
@@nathanfinch8775 yeah i was doing feyenoord and this made it alot slower to get top level but after a while i had 45 back to back leaque titles and 20 total champleaques (8 in a row) (had someone from the academy from sweden that won a ballondor at 20 and won 4 together with 400 goals and 600 assists in his career)
I'm playing with Roda JC and I just had my first season without them starting me off with a negative transferbudget I somehow finished fifth, the club balance is around 20 million and they just announced the transfer budget... -8.9 million...
It would be more interesting to see that the 2nd league itself gives every club 250 mill Per club per season. So maybe try next time to use the editor so that not the 2nd league clubs get all the money but everyone who is in the second league. Would be interesting to see how clubs who got relegated try to get up from this money league.
The TV deal experiments are always good to watch, even though we weren't that successful with the Dutch 2nd division. Waiting for more such experiments 💪
As we know, Jong and the main team can't play in one division. So really interesting how the game decided who will replace Jong Ajax/PSV/Utrecht once the main team got relegated. I see those random teams there, but I'm just curious how those teams were picked up. And by the way, AZ never got relegated, as Jong AZ is still there.
@@jayhuahua and there has been no relagation or promotion between the 2nd and 3rd tiers for a few years now. The 3rd tier consists of semi-pro clubs, and there is a huge gap in skills and financial power between them. That might not be 100% true; I am not Dutch; I just learned that stuff by myself.
yeh I'v found the same issues in multiple saves across different countries and leagues. Given the 250m TV deal and then no idea where the money has gone, will get like 10m in transfer budget and not much money in the bank. Then other times, I'll change transfer budget and wage budget, then by half way through the season, it's at 0, without spending anything and wages being well under the budget.
Want another Northern Ireland - experiment would be good to see it with the amateur league included you can get a custom database with 14 tiers in it lol!
Yeah with the intermediate league I've seen weird stuff like once deep in the future Larne went bust and went to the intermediate league like the 3rd or 4th tier. Linfield where still winning trophies just not many league titles, glentoran where in the 2nd tier but won the Irish Cup. It was crusaders, Belfast Uni and the other teams fighting it out. I was at UCD AFC and decided to rebuild Larne
just an idea about where the money is going Is it not going towards facilities and stadiums as i could swear as the video went on there were more 5 star facilities than there were at the start
For reference, my RB Leipzig team, which became the kings of europe, was making more than 1 billion per year in sponsorships. I expect a quarter of that won't be super effective.
Hmmmm the game has a bit of a hard cap at somewhere over a billion and resets finances in some.way which is why I try and fond a sweet spot of enough money, but not too much that the gane can't cope and reverts them back to nothing
Is it possible to put the money directly into the transfer budget? I think the ai either dont give much budget and dont ask for more so it stays nearly nothing To add the only way for them to increase it without the ask option is promotion and reputation boosts. This might already be a big clue why they dont progress
@@Jesse_FMyes so there youth teams moved to there reserve group/league I've seen it with the BSM trophy in England if a club is relegated they invite new U21 sides
Its just a column u can add. Right click and add as you would anything. The editor must be enabled and the CA/PA options are under the subheading, Hidden
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I won't have evidence of it, but in FM21 I had a chinese regen called "Jenkins Jenkins" come through at Bayern. He went to make 110 appearances for the national team and fired Bayern to back to back champions leagues.
Ahhh i love that, but also heartbroken there is no evidence. Jenkins Jenkins is brilliant. Chinese as well 🤔 utter madness
The minus transfer budgets is part of the club vision the clubs want you to sell in order to buy, that is what is happening to me in my Vitesse save so I assume other clubs are the same.
Lol crazy when getting so much money that club visions don't evolve
@ even with reaching European football it doesn’t change either, 100% needs changing for sure
When I played as Ado Den Haag for the first like seasons at the end of each one they removed my whole transferbudget and put me 5 million in the minus. I think its one of the season goal thingies they have there.
That's crazy, scares me off rebuilds in Holland haha
I had this with Groningen even after having them in the Champions League, made it impossible to do anything
@@nathanfinch8775 yeah i was doing feyenoord and this made it alot slower to get top level but after a while i had 45 back to back leaque titles and 20 total champleaques (8 in a row)
(had someone from the academy from sweden that won a ballondor at 20 and won 4 together with 400 goals and 600 assists in his career)
I'm playing with Roda JC and I just had my first season without them starting me off with a negative transferbudget I somehow finished fifth, the club balance is around 20 million and they just announced the transfer budget... -8.9 million...
It would be more interesting to see that the 2nd league itself gives every club 250 mill
Per club per season. So maybe try next time to use the editor so that not the 2nd league clubs get all the money but everyone who is in the second league. Would be interesting to see how clubs who got relegated try to get up from this money league.
The TV deal experiments are always good to watch, even though we weren't that successful with the Dutch 2nd division. Waiting for more such experiments 💪
As we know, Jong and the main team can't play in one division. So really interesting how the game decided who will replace Jong Ajax/PSV/Utrecht once the main team got relegated. I see those random teams there, but I'm just curious how those teams were picked up.
And by the way, AZ never got relegated, as Jong AZ is still there.
You know I never clocked that detail. Very interesting
@@jayhuahua and there has been no relagation or promotion between the 2nd and 3rd tiers for a few years now. The 3rd tier consists of semi-pro clubs, and there is a huge gap in skills and financial power between them. That might not be 100% true; I am not Dutch; I just learned that stuff by myself.
But I only see 2 previous amateur clubs:
Rijnsburgse Boys and Ijsselmeervogels, yet 3 Jong (U23) teams have been erased. How is that possible?
Katwijk is the third one. They are even in the Eredivisie!
@@nielspanis2 cause main team got relegated, I am pointing on that in my first comment… curious how ai chose the replacement for them
Yes i love it when the dutch league gets attention doesn't happen often but my prayers have been answered thank you❤
Haha i have been very dutch heavy recently. I have more on the horizon
Infinite money in the second tier?? Perfect news for Vitesse... Oh wait they still start in the top flight 💀
🤔 is this a mistake?
@@jayhuahua just a database for 23/24 season, Vitesse started this season (24/25) in a second tier with -27 points balance
Jay you look beautiful today (chuckles cutely)
Erm... okay. Thanks 🤔
yeh I'v found the same issues in multiple saves across different countries and leagues. Given the 250m TV deal and then no idea where the money has gone, will get like 10m in transfer budget and not much money in the bank. Then other times, I'll change transfer budget and wage budget, then by half way through the season, it's at 0, without spending anything and wages being well under the budget.
Yeah crazy isn't it. Just means I will give these teams a swerve haha
Want another Northern Ireland - experiment would be good to see it with the amateur league included you can get a custom database with 14 tiers in it lol!
Yeah with the intermediate league I've seen weird stuff like once deep in the future Larne went bust and went to the intermediate league like the 3rd or 4th tier. Linfield where still winning trophies just not many league titles, glentoran where in the 2nd tier but won the Irish Cup. It was crusaders, Belfast Uni and the other teams fighting it out. I was at UCD AFC and decided to rebuild Larne
Lol tier 10 in England causes computer lag. Tier 14 in NI would be a nightnare lol
@@declangaming24mad lol
@@jayhuahuahaha no worries
@jayhuahua it also bugs out the game as wacky relegations happen
just an idea about where the money is going
Is it not going towards facilities and stadiums as i could swear as the video went on there were more 5 star facilities than there were at the start
For reference, my RB Leipzig team, which became the kings of europe, was making more than 1 billion per year in sponsorships. I expect a quarter of that won't be super effective.
Hmmmm the game has a bit of a hard cap at somewhere over a billion and resets finances in some.way which is why I try and fond a sweet spot of enough money, but not too much that the gane can't cope and reverts them back to nothing
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Most of these teams have "sell before you buy", so they'll always set the transfer budgets lower no matter how much money they have.
Is it possible to put the money directly into the transfer budget? I think the ai either dont give much budget and dont ask for more so it stays nearly nothing
To add the only way for them to increase it without the ask option is promotion and reputation boosts. This might already be a big clue why they dont progress
If there is a way of doing that, I haven't found it sadly
How could some of rhe amateur level teams get into the 2nd league? Because you can't get promoted/relegated from the 2nd tier.
Because Ajax/PSV/AZ/UTR got relegated their youth teams got removed cause they aren't allowed to play in the same league as parent club.
@@Jesse_FMyes so there youth teams moved to there reserve group/league I've seen it with the BSM trophy in England if a club is relegated they invite new U21 sides
I don't know but the lovely comments have answered. Thanks guys 👍
How do you get the potential and current ability up on editor is it a different skin or what settings
Its just a column u can add. Right click and add as you would anything. The editor must be enabled and the CA/PA options are under the subheading, Hidden
Perfect, finally other leagues
🤔 I'd say my league choice is very varied
*Netherlands - Not Holland!
You should give lower league team a 250 million tv deal and you are the manager to show the ai how to do it
I like this idea. Maybe I will do this yeah 👍
which skin are you using?
No acknowledgement of the super thanks on the last video!
Ahhh missed that bud, not seen comments in couple of days, been chaos IRL. My GOAT 🐐, appreciate it. Will show it more love when I get to it 👍
I like to imagine some of the clubs are just plowing that money back into the community instead of using it for overpriced and overpaid players 😛
That is very wholesome, the dutch streets are paved with gold
Do a Nigeria league pls
They aren't in the game sadly and making financial changes is much harder in a custom database
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The Netherlands*
Holland is not a country..... Its called The Netherlands!!!
What is Holland then?