One important point to note, is that the car always controls the speed of charging, most are capped to some level., which may be below or above the charger's output. So plugging in on a "fast" AC 22kw post, most cars will limit to 11.5kw. ( The Zoe is a common exception), but 7kwh will be drawn on a 7kwh post. Plugging in on chademo or CCS on a DC "rapid" charger, sometimes the cars maximum input will be less than the chargers output, sometimes its the charger that has a limit, due to grid supply, even if car would like more. Another point to note is that DC "rapid charging slows as the battery fills, so often its better not to stop to early, and get going BEFORE the battery is full, 20% to 80% is ideal, and most time efficient.
I was going to make that point about the car controlling the speed of charge. If for instance I rock up to a 350Kw/h charger in my Renault Zoe ZE50 with CCS charging (optional extra for circa £1000) It will still only draw 50k/Wh. This seems to confuse people most.
the pay issue is the worst factor that non-ev drivers always bring up . If Like petrol or even Teslas you could saunter up to any charging point that you new always worked and you could get " power" quickly in under 10 mins .. then that would be the tuning point of EV's . We are close ... but not cloes enough .
Next time you stop at motor way services, see how much time it adds to your arrival time on your sat nav, to go to the loo, buy and consume your coffee/snack... I bet its more like 30mins rather than 10mins!
@@spikebmth the issue is so many cards , so many ways to pay via apps, via card etc etc . for petrol its contactless or pay in kiosk..you need one system for everthing .
@@dgattenb almost every rapid charger can be used with a contactless card now, it used to require a bunch of apps and cards but not any more. Yes there are a few stragglers but none of those are in motorway services.
@@dgattenb when was that? they have all been changed in the last 12-18 months, some of the "welcome break" services might have been a little delayed but i believe they have all been changed now
It is important to remember that the car sets the maximum charge rate not the charging equipment. A car with a 7kw charger cannot charge faster than that whatever the supply AC supply is (11, 22 etc). Rapid charging - over 50 kw (CCS) is DC and will always be quicker but again the car will decide what is wants. A warm empty battery is greedier than a cold full one.
Charging pads in the road as they fill in all the potholes won’t take long with the amount of potholes we have here and them we will have a real scalextric !
Are you sure about all the hassle , aps receips contactless if it was an I.C,E vehicle you pull into a petrol station fill up either pay at the pump or pay at the kiosk cash or any valid card ,in and out 5 minutes . So which is better ?
At the moment the beginners guide to remote charging is not to buy an electric car, they are not fit for purpose at the minute, you shouldn't have to plan your journey looking for charging stations. Government is just not committed to dealing with this but are more than happy to force people into them. All vehicles should be standard fittings
Philippa is a remarkable presenter, considering she is in fact, a robot. And, her 3 sons are also robots. And, her house is a spaceship, and can take off and visit other planets.
@@spikebmth not everybody route plans all the time spike and Philippa is doing the job of pushing Evs as a new technology, old boy. They’re progressive and taking over the oilers and steamers and old technology.The charging points aren’t as well advertised. Try not to get confused.
@@richardwatson5740 the police can and do hack iPhone locators I’ve got lost 3 times there’s a policeman stalking me called Andrew dale who’s trying to get me run over or die from a stress induced stroke cos I called the police scum. Don’t support the police and monarchy they’re kid killers nth generation. On top of that, the police in Scotland have dropped helicopters on pubs where uk establishment philosophers drink, and there’s hints the police can pull 13th Dan martial artists off the streets and permentantly disappear em so women can turn evidence instantly in 2022 this won’t happen
I wonder just how much this propaganda is costing the battery car lobby no mentions of tyre life and catastrophic tyre failure no mention of battery degradation no mention of the fact that there is no limit on the actual cost of charging , no mention of the huge depreciation rates , no mention of so many of the drawbacks . But my experience just of selling an S class under two years old and finding that Tesla did not want it even at one third of it original price . Bring on hydrogen,
One important point to note, is that the car always controls the speed of charging, most are capped to some level., which may be below or above the charger's output.
So plugging in on a "fast" AC 22kw post, most cars will limit to 11.5kw. ( The Zoe is a common exception), but 7kwh will be drawn on a 7kwh post.
Plugging in on chademo or CCS on a DC "rapid" charger, sometimes the cars maximum input will be less than the chargers output, sometimes its the charger that has a limit, due to grid supply, even if car would like more.
Another point to note is that DC "rapid charging slows as the battery fills, so often its better not to stop to early, and get going BEFORE the battery is full, 20% to 80% is ideal, and most time efficient.
I was going to make that point about the car controlling the speed of charge. If for instance I rock up to a 350Kw/h charger in my Renault Zoe ZE50 with CCS charging (optional extra for circa £1000) It will still only draw 50k/Wh. This seems to confuse people most.
the pay issue is the worst factor that non-ev drivers always bring up . If Like petrol or even Teslas you could saunter up to any charging point that you new always worked and you could get " power" quickly in under 10 mins .. then that would be the tuning point of EV's . We are close ... but not cloes enough .
Next time you stop at motor way services, see how much time it adds to your arrival time on your sat nav, to go to the loo, buy and consume your coffee/snack... I bet its more like 30mins rather than 10mins!
@@spikebmth the issue is so many cards , so many ways to pay via apps, via card etc etc . for petrol its contactless or pay in kiosk..you need one system for everthing
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@@dgattenb almost every rapid charger can be used with a contactless card now, it used to require a bunch of apps and cards but not any more.
Yes there are a few stragglers but none of those are in motorway services.
@@DorsetSaferRoads not the ones ive seen / used in wales and M4 / M3 / M27 down to portsmouth
@@dgattenb when was that? they have all been changed in the last 12-18 months, some of the "welcome break" services might have been a little delayed but i believe they have all been changed now
It is important to remember that the car sets the maximum charge rate not the charging equipment. A car with a 7kw charger cannot charge faster than that whatever the supply AC supply is (11, 22 etc). Rapid charging - over 50 kw (CCS) is DC and will always be quicker but again the car will decide what is wants. A warm empty battery is greedier than a cold full one.
Thank you for this guide Philippa! A lot of great tips and useful information for any EV driver! ⚡🔌🚘
Great video Philippa 👍😎 so when are you driving up to Orkney ? 😉😎
Excellent video. You have a great channel. Thank you and Greetings from Israel, from a fellow dog lover 🐶
Most pure EVs with a type 1 also have CHAdeMO for rapid charging
Charging pads in the road as they fill in all the potholes won’t take long with the amount of potholes we have here and them we will have a real scalextric !
Great guide and very informative video Philippa. followed since the tomorrows world days. great shes going with tech and teaching us all how EV works
Thank u Phillipa ! As big as going decimal and u are explaining it! Dig the Doris Day love shack !!! ;)
Are you sure about all the hassle , aps receips contactless if it was an I.C,E vehicle you pull into a petrol station fill up either pay at the pump or pay at the kiosk cash or any valid card ,in and out 5 minutes . So which is better ?
Love your videos, thanks to you purchased my first EV today.
What happens if you damage your socket in an accident ?
I would says it more like 6000 rapid chargers which is great and more going in all the time.
Thank you
Do you answer any of the comments ?
I can get 220 miles in 30 seconds with my petrol Saab 900s
I get about 400 miles in about 5 minutes with my petrol Fiesta
At the moment the beginners guide to remote charging is not to buy an electric car, they are not fit for purpose at the minute, you shouldn't have to plan your journey looking for charging stations. Government is just not committed to dealing with this but are more than happy to force people into them. All vehicles should be standard fittings
Philippa is a remarkable presenter, considering she is in fact, a robot. And, her 3 sons are also robots. And, her house is a spaceship, and can take off and visit other planets.
U have to know where ur going before u go?
always helps, to know where your destination is lol
@@spikebmth not everybody route plans all the time spike and Philippa is doing the job of pushing Evs as a new technology, old boy. They’re progressive and taking over the oilers and steamers and old technology.The charging points aren’t as well advertised. Try not to get confused.
What do you mean by they aren't advertised? Every EV sat nav or charging app knows where they are
@@richardwatson5740 the police can and do hack iPhone locators I’ve got lost 3 times there’s a policeman stalking me called Andrew dale who’s trying to get me run over or die from a stress induced stroke cos I called the police scum. Don’t support the police and monarchy they’re kid killers nth generation. On top of that, the police in Scotland have dropped helicopters on pubs where uk establishment philosophers drink, and there’s hints the police can pull 13th Dan martial artists off the streets and permentantly disappear em so women can turn evidence instantly in 2022 this won’t happen
I wonder just how much this propaganda is costing the battery car lobby no mentions of tyre life and catastrophic tyre failure no mention of battery degradation no mention of the fact that there is no limit on the actual cost of charging , no mention of the huge depreciation rates , no mention of so many of the drawbacks .
But my experience just of selling an S class under two years old and finding that Tesla did not want it even at one third of it original price .
Bring on hydrogen,