If the prime minister says to a hostage, "Well, you'd be prepared to die for your country, wouldn't you?" and, in stark contrast, the robbers have concern and care for your life and wellbeing, who are you going to trust?
If a gunman takes you hostage and holds you prisoner for days and then propositions you for sex and you agree it's r@pe. Under those conditions consent is impossible. My heart breaks that she was blamed for what happened. She was just trying to survive and be able to get home to her kids.
@@Sammysapphirano Sammy, impossible is the correct word in this scenario. You can’t consent under duress. If someone signed over all their businesses to someone holding them prisoner no one would claim “many people willingly seek out criminals to do business with, how do you know they didn’t just really like their business proposal?”.
This was an incredible story. I hope Kirstin has come to understand she has nothing to apologize for, or to feel bad about. It was all about survival, and even after everything she still saw him as the one that protected her during the most terrifying time of her life. I had heard of the Stockholm Syndrome during the trial of Patty Hurst, and I knew then that it came from something else... but this is the first time I'd actually heard the story that was behind it. This was so well done, very candid, and I especially appreciated that the producer of this documentary let THEM tell their story. Thank you so much for uploading this!
She's too old to be feeling bad about this now. The police are not your friend, the state is not your friend. But it's really taking it too far to help the robbers or fall in love with them. You wouldn't be in this mess if not for them!
This was fascinating! Kirstin says no one would understand her feelings for Clark because they weren't in that bank with they. From the sound of it, he helped her stay sane in a terrifying situation that he hadn't instigated, but was able to take control of with his experience. Especially when Jan is going off saying he's gonna kill the hostages if 'x,y,z' happens, and Clark is going, "Nevermind that idiot. Just sit here and you'll be fine." I've gotta say, it makes perfect sense to me.
@AA-hi8yx yeah, jan started robbing the bank and taking hostages by himself and one of his demands to the police was that he wanted Clark, whom he met in prison, to be brought to the bank from prison to assist him. It's still a little crazy to me that the authorities actually just brought a convict to an active robbery lmao, but my understanding is that they originally wanted to make a deal with Clark so that he stabs Jan to end the robbery or something. Clark didn't comply with that tho and ended up just being some kind of middleman that kept the communication up I believe
There are subtitles available, but even half paying attention and without subtitles I could understand perfectly fine. I suspect the documentary was produced in English even though most of the people in it are native Swedish speakers so that it could reach a wider audience.
Kirstin was dropped into a situation she had no control over, she was fought over by two aggressive sides. She did what she had to do to survive, and now she is blamed for siding with the only man in the situation who comforted her and protected her through it. She deserves a sincere heartfelt apology from the police and authorities.. but she probably won't get it.
How in the hell could she get a "heartfelt apology"? Certainly the authorities and PM did not care an iota for anyone's life or anything other than the future of their career. She should have been presented with the original documents detailing the failure of the authorities and their forced retirement and lifelong ban from working in the public sector, including everyone that had a decision making role, and the banning from medical practice of the idiot psychologist or whatever he was advising them and the assholes that tortured her afterwards. This is a wake up call for people. The syndrome aspect is unimportant, when you understand the value of yours and every other average person's life in the mind of a politician, that value being so little that to them it doesn't even warrant them wasting a thought for it.
@@philbert006 People want to believe they're so important that their lives mean much. We are not worth all that much. Once people realize that, we will all be much better off.
@@HansDester Our lives don't mean much to history, to a state, or to a company. But I'm none of those things, and neither are my loved ones. All their lives matter to me, regardless of how meaningless they are to history, and in turn history means far less to me than making sure my loved ones are safe and have a good life. I don't think we should ignore what's important to us, disregard our own small human lives, just because they are also part of a bigger system. After all, I don't think there's any point in serving a system just for the system's sake.
Thats Nordic practicality at work, we either get it from mother’s milk or learn it very young. If the sky falls, better find a way to live with it, as my grandmother used to say.
na this what happens when weak people try to survive but then again most people are weak. these people would also - follow almost any orders get vaccinated. we living in a weak age. you can not rob a bank if the bank is robbing us. period.
Syndrone has no negative connotations, it is simply a recipe designed to acquire a particular result. The result here is to live. The recipe is do what you have to do.
The hostage he spoke of who "cared about her meat in the fridge than her children". No jerk, it's just easier to think about that in a situation where you are in shock, than the possibility of never seeing your kids again, which could cause a complete break down. A person is in survival mode.
@@HansDester She wasn’t crazy. She did think clearly. The criminal was the crazy one. Boomer husbands were probably manchild often. Kids would die after a week because the husband only knew where he had his beer.
@@HansDester you understand nothing. In particular she was passing the torch of caring how her loved ones would continue that day, and she referred to children directly even about getting them from daycare. People like you acting righteous and attacking victims are pure scums
What a hard gut wrenching time. Not truly knowing if your kids are ok or how long you will be held hostage, unable to get go your kids. What we do for survival, what we do to get to our kids. I hops she found peace.
I think it is an extreme case of " keeping your friends close, and your enemies even closer" Make friends with the robbers so they see you as humans and they are less likely to want to harm you.
Kristin Enmark survival instinct is mind blowing. All of their survival instincts are . I would love to sit down and have a conversation with this lady. Their Prime Minister sickened me. It's your duty as a Prime Minister to protect your citizens not ask them to die at their post. Kristin should've went into politics.
“… or I saved him”. She was right though, understanding prime minister Palme was willing victims to die, confirming the monopoly of violence was ready to save none. It is truly astonishing a psychiatrist given task of negotiation was let loose crawling around speaking openly to anyone having an ear. This story makes sense, only if understood how a political leadership and its monopoly of violence is felt more dangerous then the threat they should seek to prevent. So, “Stockholm syndrome” may occur when authorities is felt more threatening.
@@pinlight97 ---The only ones that are terrified in America are the wilfully ignorant MAGAts that believe Trump's lies and Fox "news'" fear-mongering. I am stunned at how many of my fellow citizens that claim to love freedom are so willing to give theirs away to a convicted rapist.
@@lvseka I think they mean closed caption. It would be nice for when the speak in English because their accents are very thick and hard to understand sometimes.
Having watched and enjoyed the Netflix series 'Clark' based on Olofssons' life, it's very interesting to see the real people and how accurately the movie matches the first hand recollections here. This documentary makes me want to recommend the series even more.
I dont know how trustworthy this documentary is. Im not saying that its deliberately misleading or manipulating, but there are several things that dont match what I heard/read in other places. Eg every other source I have read says that the police simply used tear gas. Sincerely.
@@VensVibrantNailsandBeautyEven WITHIN THIS DOCUMENTARY, they cant agree what the truth is. So yes, of course Im critical about their accounts. You should be too :)
The first 2 minutes already disgust me. The victim is still traumatised, even 50 years later shes shaking, she says. One of the bank robber describes it as "a party starting", how he wanted the police to think hes super dangerous, how he shot up into the ceiling. Sick person. I wish him all the worst.
The doctors description of it at 30:00 really puts it all together for me. Imagine being stuck in a room with a single window and with someone whos holding you at gunpoint. You'd initially be in a state of severe stress and trauma and as this persists your mind needs to find some sort of solace, so when the gunman eventually stops holding you at gunpoint and now only threatens you when a policeman is in the window you would begin attributing your stress towards the police and find security in your captor. Add on the hundreds of police outside, it would be easy to see how they could have they could see the police as the enemy.
I never knew before the dynamics of the standoff. This wasn't just cops vs robbers. It was 2 robbers, one roped into the deal, with different agendas and expectations. And cops and politicians also with disparate goals. In this 4 way power struggle, hostage alignment sided with what may have been the sanest voice, even if it was telling manipulative lies. What a story.
It's intersting to see how these two guys hate each other. Just bad mouthing the other when they can. And I'm surprised it happened relatively recently. I thought it would have been around much longer than it has. At least a known name for it,
Well Clark Olofsson certainly loves the sound of his own voice. He is a sociopath & narcissist. (Forgive the outdated terminology, but it was still in use at the time). This was a very well written & directed documentary. Kirstin - flight, fight, freeze…. You FOUGHT for your own survival. You were gaslit by both sides. Even the Prime Minister expected you to give up your life willingly!! You hadn’t entered the military, or the police. This wasn’t war. You worked as a BANK CASHIER!! That decision should never have been yours to make. Please forgive yourself, nobody thinks badly of you. 🕊️
Kristen, dear, you have nothing at all to apologize for. You were working. ...all in a days work, babe. Seriously, all you did was do what you needed to do to survive, (you big smartie pants!)!! Much love and compassion from an American friend!!
I know what Stockholm Syndrome is, but never considered that this incident was actually made into a Doc, thanks very much for uploading this excellent, important and highly interesting piece of history
@@CheekieCharlie also he actually had insight. Remember he engineered the meet-up with police in a way that she felt abandoned. He might had been surprised, but he saw what and how it was happening
I was 10 years old, heard about it on the radio somewhere far up north in the arctic Greenland .. Clark Olofsson was a household name even billions miles away from civilization :)
I want to leave a comment for the none Swedish comment section lurkers. Sweden especially back then was very community minded where you don't just work on every man for themselves but for everyone which is why the promise to return weighed so heavily. You have a lot of collab and teamwork in schools so you are from a young age in it together so when you are in it together you get out of it together. As messed up as this might sound the robbers are human too with the same childhood experiences and they too have parents that want them home safe so wishing no bloodspill on the already traumatic day makes sense to me. The robbers can face justice in jail without dying, the event is stressful and traumatic enough already and wishing people to die in front of me would just bring sorrow upon their family, solving it peacefully was the right battle to take imo. Kicki was very brave through it all.
Absolutely - where is the flashy visuals, dramatic music and narrations on repeat, telling me what to think?! This type of production requires the viewer to utilize their brain to form their own view of what happened. Truly outrageous! Content like this should be banned from the public domain!
People do strange things under massive stress. You'll never know what you'll do until you face those circumstances. That being said, yea, its a BAD idea to actively participate in crimes once you are a hostage.
What a great Documentary, I had only heard of the stockholm syndrome before but never of the whole story. I 100% can understand the Hostages now and how one would come to sympathize with their Kidnappers!
Really I'm glad I'm living in this day and age cause I couldn't survive all the crazy things back in the 70s,80s and even the 90s 😂. Great documentary ❤
I think you didn’t quite understand the documentary. They were still afraid of the robber in the first place. It was the unstable-psychopath with his hand on the gun who decided to kill or not. Hostages just tried to survive in a fear for their lives.
What a strange documentary about a strange lot of people. A guy tries to rob a bank and takes 4 hostages all by himself; what was his end game? The bank robber asks the authorities to send him a prison inmate and they do it. The situation is allowed to go on for 6 days. One of the former hostages takes up with Clark, who was apparently a career criminal and an obnoxious person to boot. Both criminals seem completely unrepentent and quite free to live their lives. And all of these snippets are given without being woven together into any kind of cohesive story. Bizarre.
Are you saying that to make yourself feel more secure when then believing that kind of thing could never happen to you because you already have it more together than they did when getting drawn deeper into that kind of mess? Have a nice life with that only a theory of yours. A classmate of mine yesterday when feeling bored in a pristine lab class when she picked up part of only a 3D plastic version of a real skull and then put that only plastic on her head to celebrate how none of us now learning Anatomy have to learn in a lab with cadavers anymore. REal cadavers where the remains of former unknown road allowance persons who end up living in their vehicles might be there for students to learn on too after that poor soul maybe looking on in the great cloud of witnesses had when still alive signed on the dotted line of their driver's license that they were williing to donate their organs upon death.
@@francesbernard2445 You have drawn (fantasized) more conclusions than actually @D4v4-y6o said. --- @D4v4-y6o offers the objective pshychological mechansim involved in this phenomenon, which is an axiom. No more. --- While you switched/jumped to assessment of the classical theories, motives of actions, consequences and what not, pouring own annoyance and blaming.
The syndrome, today, the criteria for it, it’s just not what had occurred on that day. That day…was a revealing day where, just like today and eons before that day, the systems of power over were seen for the heartless, careless systems they are. These systems can never be anything else. That’s not their design, by design. You know who did and still to this day does fit the criteria FAR more if not exact…are those that work for, within those systems, below those that control them. They align with their captor…these real criminals & liars & manipulators that have captured all of us, their minions being some of us. They decide that these captors are the good guy when they commit crimes against all of us, all of them, their families and communities everyday. That’s who fits the description of the syndrome…not ppl who come to a rational understanding that those that are there to protect them, are not going to protect them. They’re going to endanger them. And the bank robbers were literally safer, more caring, more attentive, listening and affected by their words and emotions, than those in uniform, conditioned and controlled by the real enemy.
That's what I've been recently concluding. It seems the world is experiencing a form of "Mass Stockholm Syndrome," being overwhelmed by current events. The financial assaults and power grabs and feeling powerless to change it, many are embracing the enemy's goals at their own peril.
Calling well founded distrust into an incompetent apparatus that claims a monopoly on violence for no reason but to safeguard their authority and the 1%s property a syndrome is an unimagineable audacity.
This certainly gave some insight into the nitty gritty of the situation, and how the hostages made sure that they would survive by ensuring they were showing their humanity and how difficult it would be too unalive them if it got nasty, this situation would never arise in a situation with certain religiously motivated terrorists who are all about the fear and carnage and who would never act the way these two offenders did. I think there was also a bit of "reverse" syndrome here, the offenders were also empathetic to the hostages as well as the vice versa. I dare to say it, but these were civilised offenders in a civilised country, had it been other places it would have turned out differently.
WOW!! That's the first time I've heard about this and it's definitely a crazy story!! Like most people, I always heard about Stockholm syndrome growing up (I'm 52) but it was always associated with Patty Hearst. I never knew this ever happened. I just assumed that's the name they gave it when the Patty Hearst case happened and I never looked into it, obviously lol🤦. It's absolutely unbelievable that "Kiki" (I think that's what Clark was calling her) ended up in a relationship with him! Talk about falling for a 'bad boy' 😂. Just a side note: could you imagine how this could've turned out if they didn't bring Clark in to help negotiate AKA take over?!?! This story is just beyond crazy 😲😮
Captions in English or Transcript is desparately needed. The accents are so heavy that much of what is said is indecipherable. Example: After the lady said to her husband that he must pick up the children from daycare, there was an additional sentence that I couldn't understand a single word of. Replayed it 4 times and gave up.
@@jackgammon4084 I just couldn't follow the timeliness or tell the people apart. They got a guy from prison for some reason, but the goal was unclear...
@@deathwrenchcustomso the prison guy was going to escape but for some reason the cops thought he would be able to negotiate with the current robber so they let him out of prison? to be their hostage negotiator?? not sure why’d they’d do that, but yes very confusing doc!
Them stupid police put all the hostages at risk of death more than the gunman, with the situation and stupid moves they made and stupid things they did.
Does any one else find the whole situation surreal ? I know ow it was 1973 but the way the hostage takers and the hostages talk is, unreal. Can none of them work out what the repercussions of their actions were/ are ?
Could be a number of things that clouded their judgment. The world really was a lot different 50+ years ago. We are in an Information Age where repercussions for actions like this or other crimes can be viewed daily, just a Google search away now.
the amount of ppl in the comments that got stockholm syndrom just from watching this video and think the robbers did nothing wrong and the police were the bad guys is mind boggling.
@@AA-hi8yx “How does it feel to get Stockholm syndrome from a RUclips comment documentary” That is your own comment. I was saying in response to your comment that he is not experiencing Stockholm syndrome he was experiencing empathy. Based upon your lack of understanding for empathy, ( my evidence being clearly you confuse it with syndromes ) you are either A, a psychopath, or B, a child.
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If the prime minister says to a hostage, "Well, you'd be prepared to die for your country, wouldn't you?" and, in stark contrast, the robbers have concern and care for your life and wellbeing, who are you going to trust?
Interesting question
No one. The answer is always no one. No one has your best interests in mind as much as you yourself do.
@@TitaniumTurbine That's very true
@@TitaniumTurbine and people say I'm cynical, lol ...but you're right.... ( except if it's your mom).
I trust my dog. 😂
If a gunman takes you hostage and holds you prisoner for days and then propositions you for sex and you agree it's r@pe. Under those conditions consent is impossible. My heart breaks that she was blamed for what happened. She was just trying to survive and be able to get home to her kids.
exactly.
Like French women under Nazi occupation.
"Impossible" is a strange word. "Impaired" would be correct. Consent is not "impossible". Many women willingly seek criminals to sleep with.
@@Sammysapphira You probably have had trouble with finding even a criminal to sleep with buddy. Ur weird
@@Sammysapphirano Sammy, impossible is the correct word in this scenario. You can’t consent under duress. If someone signed over all their businesses to someone holding them prisoner no one would claim “many people willingly seek out criminals to do business with, how do you know they didn’t just really like their business proposal?”.
Those two guys certainly hate each other. Wow.
I don't know. It's really not that obvious
Both assholes in their own way
@@Ze_Moose he called him stupid like 20 times for no reason
@@adog3129Wooooosh
@@Ze_Moose wow, you're slow...
This was an incredible story. I hope Kirstin has come to understand she has nothing to apologize for, or to feel bad about. It was all about survival, and even after everything she still saw him as the one that protected her during the most terrifying time of her life. I had heard of the Stockholm Syndrome during the trial of Patty Hurst, and I knew then that it came from something else... but this is the first time I'd actually heard the story that was behind it. This was so well done, very candid, and I especially appreciated that the producer of this documentary let THEM tell their story. Thank you so much for uploading this!
It was really well put together wasn't it?
What a great watch 🤗🏆
Survival and caught up in the moment. Yeah it happens. Especially in your early 20s 😂 I've been in a riot before lololol
She's too old to be feeling bad about this now.
The police are not your friend, the state is not your friend.
But it's really taking it too far to help the robbers or fall in love with them. You wouldn't be in this mess if not for them!
lol hell no.
its wrong its not ok to fucking do that
Best part is Clark and Jan commenting on each other 😂 and also just their look you can clearly see who’s slightly more sane.
Really? Who's the sane one? :D
@@ian.mikyska.94 the one that remembered to comb his hair.
They're both psychopaths. Just different ways.
@@ooXChrissieXoo imagine actually thinking this......
Just come to comment this myself the constant back and forth is hilarious
This was fascinating! Kirstin says no one would understand her feelings for Clark because they weren't in that bank with they. From the sound of it, he helped her stay sane in a terrifying situation that he hadn't instigated, but was able to take control of with his experience. Especially when Jan is going off saying he's gonna kill the hostages if 'x,y,z' happens, and Clark is going, "Nevermind that idiot. Just sit here and you'll be fine." I've gotta say, it makes perfect sense to me.
🤔 It's like the reverse of the good cop, bad cop scenario.
Huh?? She wasn't saved by him, she was in that situation BECAUSE of him.
@@AA-hi8yx she was in that situation because of Jan, who demanded that Clark be brought to him to help after the fact.
@@bnhietala Maybe I missed this because of their accents, but you're saying they didn't go into rob the bank together?
@AA-hi8yx yeah, jan started robbing the bank and taking hostages by himself and one of his demands to the police was that he wanted Clark, whom he met in prison, to be brought to the bank from prison to assist him.
It's still a little crazy to me that the authorities actually just brought a convict to an active robbery lmao, but my understanding is that they originally wanted to make a deal with Clark so that he stabs Jan to end the robbery or something. Clark didn't comply with that tho and ended up just being some kind of middleman that kept the communication up I believe
this is the most incomprehensive dialogue i have ever seen in a documentary
Literally. It’s so confusing lol 😅
Aglophones when other people aren’t fluent in English
@@abug7785 You mean native speakers when a foreign accent is heavy*
i'm having no problem understanding it. maybe you're just not great with accents.
There are subtitles available, but even half paying attention and without subtitles I could understand perfectly fine. I suspect the documentary was produced in English even though most of the people in it are native Swedish speakers so that it could reach a wider audience.
I find it interesting, the robbers opposing versions of one another. Lol.
thats because ones a sociopath and the other is an idiot trying to impress a sociopath. clark is clearly delusional and still has a huge ego
Its because they are baby boomers at heart.
Its in their blood to cause strife.
Two idiots calling each other idiots lol
@olivere5497 What are you on about?
@@susankeith326 the people involved are baby boomers and that generation is like that.
Kirstin was dropped into a situation she had no control over, she was fought over by two aggressive sides. She did what she had to do to survive, and now she is blamed for siding with the only man in the situation who comforted her and protected her through it. She deserves a sincere heartfelt apology from the police and authorities.. but she probably won't get it.
How in the hell could she get a "heartfelt apology"? Certainly the authorities and PM did not care an iota for anyone's life or anything other than the future of their career. She should have been presented with the original documents detailing the failure of the authorities and their forced retirement and lifelong ban from working in the public sector, including everyone that had a decision making role, and the banning from medical practice of the idiot psychologist or whatever he was advising them and the assholes that tortured her afterwards. This is a wake up call for people. The syndrome aspect is unimportant, when you understand the value of yours and every other average person's life in the mind of a politician, that value being so little that to them it doesn't even warrant them wasting a thought for it.
There were 3 sides there.
@@philbert006 People want to believe they're so important that their lives mean much. We are not worth all that much. Once people realize that, we will all be much better off.
@@HansDester Our lives don't mean much to history, to a state, or to a company. But I'm none of those things, and neither are my loved ones. All their lives matter to me, regardless of how meaningless they are to history, and in turn history means far less to me than making sure my loved ones are safe and have a good life. I don't think we should ignore what's important to us, disregard our own small human lives, just because they are also part of a bigger system. After all, I don't think there's any point in serving a system just for the system's sake.
@@HansDester you realise siding with the soulless oppressive system like this you are under the Syndrome yourself
... "I am stuck in the bank, I don't know when will I be home. You have to pick up the children from daycare, and there is food in the fridge."...
the absolute selflessness of that woman.
Thats Nordic practicality at work, we either get it from mother’s milk or learn it very young. If the sky falls, better find a way to live with it, as my grandmother used to say.
Talk about multi-tasking.
@@janemiettinen5176 bruh Nordic practically,,, so big headed, you're not the supreme race bruh every human mom had motherly instincts like stfu
She knew her husband and he would probably forget to eat without her and that he has kids. She knew how men child think because she had one at home.
This doesn't seem like a syndrome it seems like rationally assessing the situation and trying to survive.
I personally think it was a moment of clarity and not a syndrome. She realised the politician would rather she died than let the criminals escape.
Exactly
na this what happens when weak people try to survive but then again most people are weak.
these people would also -
follow almost any orders
get vaccinated.
we living in a weak age.
you can not rob a bank if the bank is robbing us. period.
Syndrone has no negative connotations, it is simply a recipe designed to acquire a particular result. The result here is to live. The recipe is do what you have to do.
The beginning of psychobabble. Overanalyzing everything.
The hostage he spoke of who "cared about her meat in the fridge than her children". No jerk, it's just easier to think about that in a situation where you are in shock, than the possibility of never seeing your kids again, which could cause a complete break down. A person is in survival mode.
No, that woman was crazy. To think of your meat and not your kids in that situation is not sane mentality. Those hostages lost their damn minds.
@@HansDester She wasn’t crazy. She did think clearly. The criminal was the crazy one.
Boomer husbands were probably manchild often. Kids would die after a week because the husband only knew where he had his beer.
@@HansDester you understand nothing.
In particular she was passing the torch of caring how her loved ones would continue that day, and she referred to children directly even about getting them from daycare.
People like you acting righteous and attacking victims are pure scums
What a hard gut wrenching time. Not truly knowing if your kids are ok or how long you will be held hostage, unable to get go your kids. What we do for survival, what we do to get to our kids. I hops she found peace.
I think it is an extreme case of " keeping your friends close, and your enemies even closer" Make friends with the robbers so they see you as humans and they are less likely to want to harm you.
Keep them close, yes, but don't fall in love with them and start having sex!!
I wish you were right because that perspective would mean these people were smart; but they were only emotional an naive.
How wrong can you be!!!
@@clare9637 I don't know but I'm sure you can tell me.
It's easy to waste your life in a hurry.
Kristin Enmark survival instinct is mind blowing. All of their survival instincts are . I would love to sit down and have a conversation with this lady. Their Prime Minister sickened me. It's your duty as a Prime Minister to protect your citizens not ask them to die at their post. Kristin should've went into politics.
Crooks &creeps easily prey on women for a reason
@@newmannewmanz7110 I would say that had more to do with Jan Olsson threatening their lives than any preying techniques he may or may not have had
He was worried about the money not the people.
what is this belief in fairytale politicians tho
Finally, some context in a quality documentary 👌
“… or I saved him”. She was right though, understanding prime minister Palme was willing victims to die, confirming the monopoly of violence was ready to save none. It is truly astonishing a psychiatrist given task of negotiation was let loose crawling around speaking openly to anyone having an ear.
This story makes sense, only if understood how a political leadership and its monopoly of violence is felt more dangerous then the threat they should seek to prevent.
So, “Stockholm syndrome” may occur when authorities is felt more threatening.
Exactly…so, really, where many a U.S. citizen is at the moment, sad to say.
@@pinlight97 ---The only ones that are terrified in America are the wilfully ignorant MAGAts that believe Trump's lies and Fox "news'" fear-mongering. I am stunned at how many of my fellow citizens that claim to love freedom are so willing to give theirs away to a convicted rapist.
Very well put!💯💯💯👏👏👏And the victims are on their own to save their lives
I have never seen the statement ' monopoly of violence'. Apt.
@@paracleteconsult8677 Then you haven´t paid attention to the last 200 years of human development.
Subtitles would have been nice, but great upload, thanks!
You have the subs when they are talking in Swedish.
@@lvseka I think they mean closed caption. It would be nice for when the speak in English because their accents are very thick and hard to understand sometimes.
You can turn on automatic subtitles, they’re not the best but they can help
@@DigitalReplicant
They are not hard to understand at all if you are from Europe, but I guess you're right captions would be nice
In Sweden I did not know why Clark Olofsson was hated by many and loved by others.I think I can understand now.
First time I heard of this was when Patty Hearst was kidnapped.
I never knew where the term came from. Thanks for the video.
Check out the documentary of the hostage situation of gladbeck (germany). absolutely heartbreaking, WILD thing that happened there!
@@mynameiseve.1i’ll look it up now! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@Juggernaut365yes!!! Its crazy and interesting and devastating and shocking. Pls let me know what you thought of it!!
She was a rich girl that played her cards right
Having watched and enjoyed the Netflix series 'Clark' based on Olofssons' life, it's very interesting to see the real people and how accurately the movie matches the first hand recollections here. This documentary makes me want to recommend the series even more.
Thank u
I dont know how trustworthy this documentary is. Im not saying that its deliberately misleading or manipulating, but there are several things that dont match what I heard/read in other places. Eg every other source I have read says that the police simply used tear gas. Sincerely.
@@mrvellefulAnother case of a person not believing the firsthand accounting of people's lived experience. 🙄
@@VensVibrantNailsandBeautyEven WITHIN THIS DOCUMENTARY, they cant agree what the truth is. So yes, of course Im critical about their accounts. You should be too :)
Thank you for the heads up. I’ve found this documentary absolutely fascinating, gonna check the nf series out
These ladies are amazing. And their behaviour is totally not what i was expecting under stockholm syndrom.
The first 2 minutes already disgust me. The victim is still traumatised, even 50 years later shes shaking, she says. One of the bank robber describes it as "a party starting", how he wanted the police to think hes super dangerous, how he shot up into the ceiling. Sick person. I wish him all the worst.
Clark is a sociopath in denial
Agreed
Definitely
Looks like Clark lives in an attic. 😂
Clark was the reason everyone survived.
@@QPRTokyoBetter than your mom’s basement
The doctors description of it at 30:00 really puts it all together for me. Imagine being stuck in a room with a single window and with someone whos holding you at gunpoint. You'd initially be in a state of severe stress and trauma and as this persists your mind needs to find some sort of solace, so when the gunman eventually stops holding you at gunpoint and now only threatens you when a policeman is in the window you would begin attributing your stress towards the police and find security in your captor. Add on the hundreds of police outside, it would be easy to see how they could have they could see the police as the enemy.
I wish this had subtitles, because i miss some words, and I can't continue replaying the same shot to understand what was said.
RUclips has recommended this video like 15 times and I guess I'll finally watch it.
what a thought provoking doc. i am so glad she spoke her truth.
This was fascinating! I never knew the history behind the term Stockholm syndrome…very interesting
Reality sure is better.
What's even more interesting is "Stockholm Syndrome" isn't even real.
Stockholme syndrome is not real, psychiatrist made it up in order to discredit the victim, they only person who tried to deescalate the situation
This is an awesome documentary. Thank you.
This was one of the best documentaries I had watched thanks for the upload😉 much love from South Africa 💯
What a story ..1973 , different times yet not so different from today
true -- the horrible liberal governments allowed these monsters out to walk the streets.
The one thing I have never been able to do is talk about the night terrors, "left-overs"of my traumatic experiences.
I can relate to this a lot. The left-overs are more severe than actually going through a traumatic experience in the moment.
This was incredibly fascinating. What a unique story. Thanks for sharing
Outrageous that copper stuffing. His face while being interviewed
I thought this was gonna be another copy paste documentary but realizing the bank robber is in it changed my mind
Seeing the official speak to the press from a cafe, eating muffins and coffee, mouth full of food while he talks... these guys have a point...
I can already see this documentary becoming viral!!
It’s an old documentary lol
Known as the Stockholm virus !!
@@Naomibabe457 lol
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I never knew before the dynamics of the standoff. This wasn't just cops vs robbers. It was 2 robbers, one roped into the deal, with different agendas and expectations. And cops and politicians also with disparate goals. In this 4 way power struggle, hostage alignment sided with what may have been the sanest voice, even if it was telling manipulative lies. What a story.
The offers on guy calling everyone an idiot is great😅
It's intersting to see how these two guys hate each other. Just bad mouthing the other when they can. And I'm surprised it happened relatively recently. I thought it would have been around much longer than it has. At least a known name for it,
Well Clark Olofsson certainly loves the sound of his own voice. He is a sociopath & narcissist. (Forgive the outdated terminology, but it was still in use at the time).
This was a very well written & directed documentary.
Kirstin - flight, fight, freeze…. You FOUGHT for your own survival. You were gaslit by both sides. Even the Prime Minister expected you to give up your life willingly!! You hadn’t entered the military, or the police. This wasn’t war. You worked as a BANK CASHIER!! That decision should never have been yours to make.
Please forgive yourself, nobody thinks badly of you. 🕊️
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Kristen, dear, you have nothing at all to apologize for. You were working. ...all in a days work, babe.
Seriously, all you did was do what you needed to do to survive, (you big smartie pants!)!! Much love and compassion from an American friend!!
Cults have women for a reason, they are easy for crooks &creeps
She can’t see this you know. She’s also not a kid so don’t talk to her like she is it’s incredibly cringey and disrespectful.
"big smartie pants" she is an adult
This person needs more therapy than Kristin did
One of the best documentaries I watched, without a doubt.
I know what Stockholm Syndrome is, but never considered that this incident was actually made into a Doc, thanks very much for uploading this excellent, important and highly interesting piece of history
This poor woman. These devils destroyed her life and are enjoying it. And this film gives them their stage. Unbelievable.
Gosh, the perpetrators positioning themselves as the heroes in this story, in a drama of their own making, with absolute zero insight.
To be fair the police sent Clark in there to diffuse the situation and save some people
@@CheekieCharlie also he actually had insight. Remember he engineered the meet-up with police in a way that she felt abandoned.
He might had been surprised, but he saw what and how it was happening
Great doc. Thank you.
I was 10 years old, heard about it on the radio somewhere far up north in the arctic Greenland .. Clark Olofsson was a household name even billions miles away from civilization :)
I love hearing the robbers talk about each other 😂😂
this was so well made and subtly mind blowing…
This is so wild that they're all out roaming free too
This was so well done....😊
I want to leave a comment for the none Swedish comment section lurkers. Sweden especially back then was very community minded where you don't just work on every man for themselves but for everyone which is why the promise to return weighed so heavily. You have a lot of collab and teamwork in schools so you are from a young age in it together so when you are in it together you get out of it together. As messed up as this might sound the robbers are human too with the same childhood experiences and they too have parents that want them home safe so wishing no bloodspill on the already traumatic day makes sense to me. The robbers can face justice in jail without dying, the event is stressful and traumatic enough already and wishing people to die in front of me would just bring sorrow upon their family, solving it peacefully was the right battle to take imo. Kicki was very brave through it all.
Very well said, I appreciate the insight!
Add captions. You just need to allow auto-generated CC.
I think that's on youtube because two different languages are spoken
I’m watching with captions right now. It can take some time for the captions to be generated. The captions are available now.
This is like 80% of a documentary. It feels surreal. The lack of commentary suggests that it’s not finished or the only surviving cast is the editors.
Absolutely - where is the flashy visuals, dramatic music and narrations on repeat, telling me what to think?!
This type of production requires the viewer to utilize their brain to form their own view of what happened.
Truly outrageous! Content like this should be banned from the public domain!
@@christianchristiansen99 just meant some context and dates maybe would be nice? Glad you enjoyed it though, I’ll just find a different video
Great story, thanks.
People do strange things under massive stress. You'll never know what you'll do until you face those circumstances. That being said, yea, its a BAD idea to actively participate in crimes once you are a hostage.
What a great Documentary, I had only heard of the stockholm syndrome before but never of the whole story. I 100% can understand the Hostages now and how one would come to sympathize with their Kidnappers!
Really I'm glad I'm living in this day and age cause I couldn't survive all the crazy things back in the 70s,80s and even the 90s 😂.
Great documentary ❤
Pretty sad when your more afraid of the police than the robbers.
I think you didn’t quite understand the documentary. They were still afraid of the robber in the first place. It was the unstable-psychopath with his hand on the gun who decided to kill or not. Hostages just tried to survive in a fear for their lives.
I can't understand the question Olof Palme asked the hostage: "Wouldn't it be nice for you to die .............???" 25:10
I think she says “on your post” … I guess trying to make her think it would be heroic to sacrifice their lives to put a stop to the robbers
@@myopinion378 Thank you that makes sense.
@@myopinion378he said
@@myopinion378otherwise yes.. heroic.
@@TrggrWarning technically it’s ’she said he said…’ 😝😁
I was in 5th grade when this happened, living south of Stockholm, we actually had a tv in the classroom to watch it.
This is the fawn of fight, flight, freeze, or fawn
I wiash Clark Oloffson would really tell us how he felt about Jan Olson,
What a strange documentary about a strange lot of people. A guy tries to rob a bank and takes 4 hostages all by himself; what was his end game? The bank robber asks the authorities to send him a prison inmate and they do it. The situation is allowed to go on for 6 days. One of the former hostages takes up with Clark, who was apparently a career criminal and an obnoxious person to boot. Both criminals seem completely unrepentent and quite free to live their lives. And all of these snippets are given without being woven together into any kind of cohesive story. Bizarre.
How does she still have Stockholm syndrome all these years later? He didn't "save" her, he took her hostage.
He came in after she already was hostage. Also, you think trauma just evaporates
@@whataboutthis10 And continued to hold her hostage. Did you miss that fact while you were coming up with nonsensical ideas about what I think?
This is exactly how codependency works with codependant people who were abused as children and their pyschopath partners, parents or bosses.
Are you saying that to make yourself feel more secure when then believing that kind of thing could never happen to you because you already have it more together than they did when getting drawn deeper into that kind of mess? Have a nice life with that only a theory of yours. A classmate of mine yesterday when feeling bored in a pristine lab class when she picked up part of only a 3D plastic version of a real skull and then put that only plastic on her head to celebrate how none of us now learning Anatomy have to learn in a lab with cadavers anymore. REal cadavers where the remains of former unknown road allowance persons who end up living in their vehicles might be there for students to learn on too after that poor soul maybe looking on in the great cloud of witnesses had when still alive signed on the dotted line of their driver's license that they were williing to donate their organs upon death.
@@francesbernard2445 You have drawn (fantasized) more conclusions than actually @D4v4-y6o said.
--- @D4v4-y6o offers the objective pshychological mechansim involved in this phenomenon, which is an axiom. No more.
--- While you switched/jumped to assessment of the classical theories, motives of actions, consequences and what not, pouring own annoyance and blaming.
The syndrome, today, the criteria for it, it’s just not what had occurred on that day. That day…was a revealing day where, just like today and eons before that day, the systems of power over were seen for the heartless, careless systems they are. These systems can never be anything else. That’s not their design, by design. You know who did and still to this day does fit the criteria FAR more if not exact…are those that work for, within those systems, below those that control them. They align with their captor…these real criminals & liars & manipulators that have captured all of us, their minions being some of us. They decide that these captors are the good guy when they commit crimes against all of us, all of them, their families and communities everyday. That’s who fits the description of the syndrome…not ppl who come to a rational understanding that those that are there to protect them, are not going to protect them. They’re going to endanger them. And the bank robbers were literally safer, more caring, more attentive, listening and affected by their words and emotions, than those in uniform, conditioned and controlled by the real enemy.
That's what I've been recently concluding. It seems the world is experiencing a form of "Mass Stockholm Syndrome," being overwhelmed by current events. The financial assaults and power grabs and feeling powerless to change it, many are embracing the enemy's goals at their own peril.
my name is giovanni giorgio, but everybody calls me giorgio
Calling well founded distrust into an incompetent apparatus that claims a monopoly on violence for no reason but to safeguard their authority and the 1%s property a syndrome is an unimagineable audacity.
Psychiatry works to strengthen the system
great title
wow, that was amazing. well done.
Minute 26: and this is what is Stockholm syndrome ,show them how the police didn’t care.
And the culminating half of the story where the abused start to fall in love with their abusers.
the whole country is now suffering from it
The bank robber was replaced by them in white coats
This certainly gave some insight into the nitty gritty of the situation, and how the hostages made sure that they would survive by ensuring they were showing their humanity and how difficult it would be too unalive them if it got nasty, this situation would never arise in a situation with certain religiously motivated terrorists who are all about the fear and carnage and who would never act the way these two offenders did. I think there was also a bit of "reverse" syndrome here, the offenders were also empathetic to the hostages as well as the vice versa. I dare to say it, but these were civilised offenders in a civilised country, had it been other places it would have turned out differently.
As long as he's white speaking the great English whispering "all gonna be good y'know" softly in your ear, you'll be glad he chose you
Great documentary!
WOW!! That's the first time I've heard about this and it's definitely a crazy story!! Like most people, I always heard about Stockholm syndrome growing up (I'm 52) but it was always associated with Patty Hearst. I never knew this ever happened. I just assumed that's the name they gave it when the Patty Hearst case happened and I never looked into it, obviously lol🤦. It's absolutely unbelievable that "Kiki" (I think that's what Clark was calling her) ended up in a relationship with him! Talk about falling for a 'bad boy' 😂. Just a side note: could you imagine how this could've turned out if they didn't bring Clark in to help negotiate AKA take over?!?! This story is just beyond crazy 😲😮
I always wondered what Benny from ABBA did before the Eurovision Win…
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Captions in English or Transcript is desparately needed. The accents are so heavy that much of what is said is indecipherable. Example: After the lady said to her husband that he must pick up the children from daycare, there was an additional sentence that I couldn't understand a single word of. Replayed it 4 times and gave up.
You put young attractive people in a highly stressful situation anything can happen...
Nice to see the robbers kept in touch 😐
Can i just say 💯👌🏼 the title of this x
Very interesting 😊
I really wish this was done better. I'm trying to understand, but I can't follow it.
It needs proper English subtitles and a narrator to tell the story. This was virtually unwatchable.
@@jackgammon4084 I just couldn't follow the timeliness or tell the people apart. They got a guy from prison for some reason, but the goal was unclear...
@@deathwrenchcustomso the prison guy was going to escape but for some reason the cops thought he would be able to negotiate with the current robber so they let him out of prison? to be their hostage negotiator?? not sure why’d they’d do that, but yes very confusing doc!
What a great documentary.
Brilliant ! Thank you !
I’m having trouble understanding most of them. Some English subtitles would help even though they are speaking English! 😅
Excellent documentary 👍
This is the most Swedish story ever. Guy robs a bank and their reply is like “well hello sir. What can we do for you now that you did this.”
Best Doc. 👌 ben subbed since i watched your one on the Trevor case. I never knew the origin, now i know, fight from clarks mouth.
0:34 ayye it's Bob Dylan!
Needs subtitles.
Complain more
@dkkuhn87
What you see in others you've failed to see in yourself. Red pill bro.
@@Sammasambuddha do you some crack or something?
Them stupid police put all the hostages at risk of death more than the gunman, with the situation and stupid moves they made and stupid things they did.
Did you see the phone? 32:10 the zero number . What a clever place.
And now the whole country has Stockholm syndrome.
Does any one else find the whole situation surreal ?
I know ow it was 1973 but the way the hostage takers and the hostages talk is, unreal.
Can none of them work out what the repercussions of their actions were/ are ?
lead poisoning
Could be a number of things that clouded their judgment. The world really was a lot different 50+ years ago. We are in an Information Age where repercussions for actions like this or other crimes can be viewed daily, just a Google search away now.
the amount of ppl in the comments that got stockholm syndrom just from watching this video and think the robbers did nothing wrong and the police were the bad guys is mind boggling.
To be fair; Clark thought Jan was being reckless and that no one needed to die who was innocent, so he's at least got some sort of heart in there
@@CheekieCharlieHow does it feel to get Stockholm Syndrome from a youtube documentary?
@@AA-hi8yxempathy isn’t Stockholm syndrome, lack of empathy however is psychopathic behavior so maybe get checked out.
@@couldntbeme7385 Not sure where you got the idea that I was conflating empathy and Stockholm Syndrome. Maybe get that checked out
@@AA-hi8yx “How does it feel to get Stockholm syndrome from a RUclips comment documentary” That is your own comment.
I was saying in response to your comment that he is not experiencing Stockholm syndrome he was experiencing empathy.
Based upon your lack of understanding for empathy, ( my evidence being clearly you confuse it with syndromes ) you are either A, a psychopath, or B, a child.
I get the feeling the robbers don't like each other very much! I may be wrong tho!
Someone needs to make those six days into a movie if they haven’t already..!
They have. It's on Netflix.
those two playing the blame game like little girls is so enraging