This is very disappointing to hear from a licensed doctor/professional. It is so hard for black women to be taken seriously no matter what is going on with their health. She really is apart of the problem…. I hope one day when she needs help she doesn’t come across a doctor that says she’s dramatic.
You really have to be your own advocate. I work in pharmaceutical and get first hand accounts about how patients were not taken seriously or dangerously misdiagnosed. This is especially sad coming from a practicing doctor. Her license needs to be revoked. People who genuinely want to help people should be doctors, not her.
I remember an Indian doctor saying they were taught that black women have a higher tolerance for pain so you don't need to do something every time we complain (I'm paraphrasing)
Obviously,, there is a reason black women are complaining more during pregnancy if their mortality rates are higher. If the medical professionals took their complaints more seriously than maybe they wouldn’t be dying at higher rates.
@@indigojes if you are in an urban area, check is any of the universities around you have a dental school. many take walk-in emergency appointments at a highly discounted rate, they usually only let senior year students work on you, and they're extremely nice and attentive because their boss/teacher is close by observing and checking in on you. i've used their services many times and never been disappointed.
Also a physician here: I think it’s important to also discuss the ways black patients will be judged negatively for things they cannot help. Black patients are more likely to ‘no show’ their medical appointments. they’re more likely to not get tests the Dr ordered done on time (transportation, child care issues etc). They’re more likely to not take medications that are prescribed due to affordability issues. I say all of this to say, there are systemic issues at play that unfortunately make Drs of all races label Black patients as ‘difficult’ or ‘Non-compliant’. If you don’t take the time to ask what barriers your patients have to decent medical care, its easy to assume they’re not taking their health seriously or that they’re just making stuff up.
Yes! I remember going to a Black Female GYN and stating how I was experiencing pain and discomfort. I was told that I’m a “strong Black woman” and that I’d be fine. SMH.
This is not disappointing. It’s absolutely disgusting. How dare she lump an entire population into one category and systematically discredit us. Empathy is supposed to be a practice tool, and she should be keenly aware of the difficulties that black patients encounter due to stigma. For shame!
This is why I don't give too much attention to buying black or going to a black doctor. I support what provides the best product and services for what I need, regardless of race.
Having worked in healthcare I have encountered a lot of black women who do come in lying trying to get us to write fake doctors notes. I know this because they’ll tell me how their homegirls told them how to lie to get time off (I’m black if that’s not obvious hence why they felt comfortable telling me that 😅). I of course help when I can but she’s not completely off base for her comments. I’ve had to tell multiple black women to not be so loud when talking to me because I didn’t want them to be caught 🥴😭
...making statements like this while advocating and bringing awareness to the issue of the high percentage of deaths during child birth amongst black women vs other races. Actually had the nerve to film the actual meeting she had with the vice president as an advocate regarding this matter...smh
As a BW, I’ve had quite a few unpleasant experiences with Black doctors. This is just reminding me that its important to pick the BEST doctor for you. One that not only knows what they’re doing, but one that makes you feel CARED for. If you have to go elsewhere (doctor of a different background), then do it. Your health is more important. Dr. Jackie gives me anti-BW energy. She seems to not be comfortable in her own body, so she projects it onto other women. That’s all these shows are with bw. I don’t see how y’all can watch them. I don’t care how educated or wealthy they are, they’re not the best representations of us as women.
I wholeheartedly agree. About two years ago I was really disappointed, I had a viral infection and went to the urgent care for treatment. The Black female doctor who I believe was 2nd generation West African dismissed me and gave me a gross liquid pain reliever to numb my throat instructed me to continue taking over the counter cold medicine. I went back nearly a weak later when my symptoms persisted and the White male doctor actually seemed to care, noted that my lymph nodes were swollen and prescribed me viral medication.
@@meadowgailer5659 Wow. That’s another conversation within itself: Black doctors from foreign backgrounds and how their behavior and treatment changes in the presence of certain ethnic groups. I just recently experienced it with an African male doctor. This is REAL!
I had a male AA dr treat me worse than any doctor I've ever encountered. Next level demeaning. At the same time, my fave dr is an AA woman so it depends on the person.
This is one of many reasons why so many black women are so distrustful of the medical community. It results in real life medical issues not being properly treated.
Agreed. I have a serious medical condition and I didn’t even feel comfortable going to the doctor when I had issues because some do act this way. I have experienced this from a black woman OBGYN and white nurses when I was in labor. Thankfully, nothing was wrong but, they kept telling me to go home and that I wasn’t about to have my baby. My water ended up breaking right there and I didn’t even have time to get an epidural. The birth of my child was very traumatic and I thank GOD I didn’t leave because I don’t know what would have happened if I gave birth at home.
This is not the first time hearing about black pregnant women and high levels of mortality aside from this video can someone tell me why this happens? Just curious
We as black women are already misdiagnosed, not believed, and treated worst then animals by health care professionals in this country. The fact that she had the nerve to bring her tail on the internet to say that mess is disgusting. I am highly disappointed in Dr. Jackie!
Either way she spins it, it still means DOCTORS ARE NEGLIGENT WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK WOMEN. Is not their job to guess or assume anyone is being dramatic. BW have some of the harshest births bc we’re often not in a position to stop working and properly rest. Let’s not mention predisposed issues passed down generationally. She’s literally saying every other woman just takes pregnancy in stride, and if that’s true it’s probably bc ppl listen to them the first and every single time they say something is wrong.
She’s so out touch. She’s been caring for celebrities, she knows nothing about the ordinary women’s struggles. She’s vile and disgusting for saying that on national TV. I have been pregnant twice and worked on a heavy medical unit as a nurses. I am scared from ever wanting to carry another child.
Nah she deal with regular people. She is my aunts doctor. I think she is dead wrong for saying what she said though. HOWEVER I've dealt with a Doctor who was a Black Woman who treated me like the way she is speaking and I for the life of me couldnt understand why she acted like my concerns were not important. I think more Black doctors do this than we'd like to admit just because they are Black. We need to start calling them out too.
@@vanessawestbrook6976the medical education is historically grasp at these ideas to cover why they treat certain people specifically poor or people of color and specific black Americans. There is lack of cultural care and when you are going through medical school trying to speak up for your community is not looked at as positive
@@MiSSViVi23 that doesn’t matter. Im not referring to a HIPPA situation. This is personal, a civil suit for damages could have been filed. Having her sensitive business blasted probably affected her mental health. Jackie would’ve settled to avoid the publicity.
@@victoriacammie Didn’t Buffie talk about it on the show though? I can’t remember but I think she did. And while it was wrong for Jackie to say it on stage in front of all those people, I’m pretty sure Buffie doesn’t have a case.
I’m so glad you’re covering this. I was so shocked when I saw this in the real housewives subreddit. It’s really disturbing to hear this from a black female OB/GYN, and I’m looking at her discuss the mortality of black mothers sideways now. I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised with her outing people’s fertility issues and making snarky comments about other cast member’s weight.
I remember that episode when Dr. Jackie was acting like a jacka** to the other lady. Dr. Jackie thinks shes untouchable, but she can easily get cancelled. Especially since she's now making dangerous and assinie comments about Black women.
Her comments were irresponsible. As a seasoned medical professional as well as a media persona with a large following, this is absolutely unacceptable. No black woman should ever feel comfortable receiving care from her going forward.
As an African American woman who has been misdiagnosed MANY times and doctors of different races not LISTENING to me when I express something. This makes me SO UPSET!! And for someone who was diagnosed with breast cancer as a black women to say this… please !Get out of health care PLEASE ! Danger to women
Even IF she believed this. It’s incredibly ignorant of her to use her platform/ publicly speak on this knowing her colleagues are white/ non-Black people and will literally use her words against us. That makes me so mad. It’s always that one Black person trying to side with the yts and non-Blacks. Incredibly irresponsible.
you know at some point there has to be some accountability taken and some discussion had. Things don't just come out of thin air. There's a reason this trope exists about black patients because they are much more difficult especially in that Atlanta area. I have friends who are nurses in those areas and they tell me all the bullshit they have to deal with from some of these people. They don't get STD testing despite being sexually active and promiscuous then come back with diseases, they don't get tests on time or get prescribed medication. They're also just hard to deal with in the hospital sometimes. Instead of jumping on her throat maybe let this start a conversation about the realities of both, doctors and patients. 🤷🏿♀
@@janisearthlyGirl if you don’t be quite with that BS. If you work in the medical field you are supposed to be professional at all times. IDC how the patient is acting they need to do their jobs simply as that. This is not the fault of patients but 100% the fault of medical professionals if they can’t do their jobs then maybe they need to quite and find another career most of these people are not being dramatic these doctors and nurses just don’t want to do there jobs.
@@babygirla5717 it's always someone else's fault im tired of my community never taking any accountability. This is why I'm done and divested. Have an amazing life.
It will never get old how people can confidently lie and make up very well documented statistics. We don’t speculate on whether black women are treated differently by doctors and nurse, we KNOW they are. This is a fact not a speculation anymore.
That’s why I didn’t know I had cervical cancer for three years. Nobody cared. I even had the police called on me for trying to fix my own pain just to find out a year later that I had cancer. I don’t feel like we’ll get better and it hurts beyond words how I was treated.
BWs pain and suffering is often not taken seriously. We've come to expect this from other groups. It's disheartening to hear this from the very person who is supposed to be more understanding and empathetic of your situation because she's a fellow BW. She should be ashamed of herself; she's let her celebrity status go to her head.
First this feels a bit generational I've noticed older generations energy about things are very different. She said that to that lady over energy she feels she got from black women. Black women are labeled ghetto extra dramatic. We are also already always more criticized by our own. I also agree with the elitist vibes she gives off. I get the feeling she's helping and hurting it's really not a new thing for us. We have a hard time staying balanced many black people who've "made it" can't seem to balance helping the middle and lower class community without a mistep socially. I hope more black Doctors comment about this lets leave it to them to correct her.
When I was pregnant with my son (now 17). I had fibroids and they were extremely painful during my pregnancy. They didn't take my pain seriously until my water broke at five months and I had to be hospitalized for a month and had my son prematurely weighing 2lbs and he had to stay in the hospital for 2 months until he got to 4 lbs and was able to come home. This is sad to here Dr. Jackie state that.
I gave birth December 31, 2022 and I had blood hemorrhage where I lost damn near all my blood and let me say this my doctors were on it , only because my husband was on it I’m grateful to be here today that’s how serious it was and my doctors were all white. The white male doctor wasted no time and didn’t question anything that was going on with me. I would advise black women to have home births and opt out of C-sections blood clotting happens a lot after birth I had a vaginal birth. Doulas are needed especially with black women. I’ve seen so many black women being traumatized and dr Jackie saying that was irresponsible. Just like in Clayton county Georgia a black women baby was killed by a black doctor pulling her head off. Black women need to complain more!
That's why I go with whatever race of doctor that gives me the best care because I've still had some rude and dismissive providers even in the mental health field!
This video is not new. I do not agree with what Jackie says but people saying that she never carried a child do not know her history before cancer and if she has miscarried. Also doc Jacki patients are pretty happy with her care. It's odd when old clips come up just bc people are that quad iced her self from a show. The real villain is ignorance. You don't think doctor have said black people are loud and dramatic to cover their mistreatment..many patients are loud and suffering not everyone is cut and demur when ill. Doctors and nurses are supposed to be professional. Doctors who don't want patient asking for work notes are caught up in parenting patients as children like.. they do not need to pas judgement on whether you deserve to be at work or not
This is very disturbing and disappointing to hear from a black woman! Years ago when I was pregnant I kept going to the Dr because of pain that I was experiencing and just feeling something off and it was my first pregnancy…..everyone kept blowing me off and saying that everything was fine, just for me to end up miscarrying at 5 months pregnant.
So sorry to hear that. Pregnancy is a scarry thing. When I found out black folks were treated worst statistically, in the medical field AND when that "ick" video on tictok came out some months ago, it kind of made me fearful to be under someone's care while pregnant; I already hate going to the doctor, knowing that I should go more often 😢. I hope with time you continue heal from your tramatic experience sis.
Me too. I didn't even go to my ob unless it was a scheduled appointment except for once. I bled until I was 16 weeks and I kept telling them that I was in so much pain and can't eat. They found out my cervix was torn at 20weeks! They prescribed me hormone pills and I was in pain up until my baby came prematurely at 25 months and I thought I was going to lose my baby. These doctors really don't care about us!
Isn’t Dr.Jackies actions borderline a Hippa law violation. Like she should know from practicing that someone’s medical business whether they’re your patient or not cannot be spread to the public.
No, it wasn't since she was did not treat Buffie as a patient under her care. But it was tacky, distasteful, and just violation of respect for Buffie in general
Dr. Jackie is most DEFINITELY coming back next season. this is and will be her storyline. you can't tell me the producers of Married to Medicine and the Bravo execs weren't jumping up and down when all of this started to happen.
As an African American RN, I stand by Hippa law and follow the protocol for my patients past medical history. I seen both episodes of how Dr Jackie body shamed Dr. Heavenly, and the other episode of how she announces Buffy past medical history with out asking for consent to use in the public. The apology was cold to me because I didn’t feel empathy from Dr. Jackie. I’m a fan of the show as well. I really enjoyed seeing Buffy and her spouse. I felt like she did bring a lot to show. I love Dr. Simone attitude, I feel like she is very genuine with her patients and has empathy with great bedside care as a doctor.
Jackie is extremely tone def, she puts on this holier than thou persona because of all her accolades, but in reality she is bitter. She hides behind her success because of her personal failueres( not being able to have a baby ) at no fault of her own of course , but u can tell it’s really affected her.
@@helenhamilton9561 yes! That too! And u see he not even active this season, he actually tired and annoyed by Jackie but they both refuse to go through a public divorce.
This is heartbreaking. BW deserve to be cared for by doctors with the outmost respect and this is absolutely devastating. She’s got eyes watching her and this is how she behaves. Scary.
Whew chile the ghetto. Medical bias as a provider is crazy. I see it all the time though as a nurse. Meanwhile the yt pts get whatever pain meds they want with no questions asked.
WOW! I had my 3 children in 3 different settings: 1st one in the hospital, 2nd with a midwife and doula at a birthing center, and the 3rd at home with a midwife and doula. My midwife was EVERYTHINGGGGGGGGG!!! She addressed ALL of my concerns and perhaps if physicians weren't short with their patients then the patient would feel more at ease about how their bodies are reacting to the pregnancy. In regards to my personal experience being in the "care" of a physician and giving birth at a hospital it was straight trash! The ✋🏻👈🏾 male physician treated me as if I was crying wolf and when I gave him my Birth Plan he literally rolled his eyes and said "Oh you're one of those". I did not want to get an epidural and opted for a natural birth, he complained about that, he was doing the MOST in the delivery room and so was the nurse(I'll go into detail if asked), once I had my son the nurse immediately gave me a pill and told me to take it. I did, without questioning it. She then says we have some paperwork for you to sign but we'll have to wait until that pill wears off. I asked what did she just give me, this b-word said "Vicodin, I figured you would be in a lot of pain after all of this and didn't want you to be constantly asking for help with pain". I was pissed! I wanted to enjoy my son and I couldn't because I passed out from taking that mess! What Dr. Jackie said is EXTREMELY dangerous! Praise unto the Ancestors for my midwives and my doulas!
@@daphneyharris9908 (I apologize for the length) in the hospital you're rushed... They're trying to get you in and out of the delivery room ASAP so that the next person can occupy the bed. For example, I was administered "Pitocin" to try to speed up the birthing process being that I developed Pregnancy induced hypertension and threatened that if I didn't fully dilate by a certain time then I would have to get a C-section. I was under a LOT of stress at that point and I felt like I was the problem. Luckily, 2 to 3 hours after that "warning" I dilated to 9 centimeters. At this point I am feeling the contractions, which I had not been before. Shortly thereafter I'm in full labor, at that point there's an ENTIRE team of people who come into the room so it gets hectic and very stressful. My nurse is literally standing next to me and tapping on the bed as if she's bored and could be someplace better. I unintentionally snap at her and was like "CAN YOU STOP?!?!" She obliged, and I went back to focusing and trying to push. Now ideally you don't want to give birth on your back because it makes no anatomical sense to do so, therefore you're in this unnatural position and you have to wait until you get the urge to push. Don't get me wrong, you can push when told to, but if you don't feel the urge to push then you could possibly hemorrhage. With that being said, I felt the urge, I pushed, the baby crowned. I felt another urge and it was another good push, the doctor then says "okay go ahead and push again", I told him that my body isn't telling me to push... This man roughly starts to rub my stomach to the to get my uterus to contract and I asked him "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT?" He says, "So that we can hurry this along, I have other babies to deliver". Within the next two to three pushed my son was born. When pregnant with my second baby I found a midwife that I clicked with but I was fearful due to my experience at the hospital and I was fearful that I would develop PIH again. My midwife said, "when they first noticed that your blood pressure was elevated and an issue all the doctor needed to do was tell you to cut meat completely out of your diet: fish, vegetables, and fruit". My mouth literally dropped. She went on to tell me what Pitocin is and the issues that it causes with the birthing process. Again, my mouth dropped. My husband wasn't completely sold on the midwife all the way so he says "I just want a guarantee that nothing is going to go wrong with my wife or baby". She asks "Well who in the world would be able to guarantee that?" 🤣 She says that she's not in the business of convincing anyone because when you choose a midwife you're choosing to have the birth that you want so your body, head, heart, and soul has to be all in for both Mom and Dad. She suggested that we go home, talk it over, and watch a documentary called "The Business of Being Born" (I think it's on Amazon Prime)... very Very VERY eye-opening!!!!!!!! At that point I realized that I wasn't the only woman being rushed in the hospital and that this is a common thing and it's ALL about money! Here are my labor and birth times: 1st baby - active labor started around 2p, water broke at 4:30pm, had him at 11p (Pitocin used) 2nd baby - contractions started at midnight, my water broke at 3a, (when labor starts digestion stops so I eliminated undigested and digested food), quickly showered after (crazy I know), my husband drove us to the birthing center as we arrived by 4:56a, the baby was born in a birthing pool at 6:24a, and were back home by 1:30p. 3rd baby - contractions started around 8a but they weren't too intense, finally called my midwife around 10:45a, she and my doula arrived to our house at 10:57a, water broke at 11:01a, baby was born at 11:10a. The contractions weren't that intense until the very very end.
My coworker is from Lithuania and she said you’re paid for a year the same salary you made before you go on pregnancy leave. They make sure they have a year off or more so the fact that Black women are called dramatic for wanting a few days off is saddening
yes, many other countries have better much better maternity rights than the U.S. I honestly don’t understand why or how some women continue to shell out babies for this country and can’t stay with them past 2-3 months, daycare is expensive, and you have docs like Jackie that want you to be pregnant mules!
Jackie should be EXTREMELY ashamed of herself. What type of disgusting rhetoric is this? Shes always been the type to throw rocks and hide her hand...very passive aggressive in nature. She masks her messiness with a "nice" demeanor. I'll never EVER look at her the same again 🤷🏾♀️
This is why I don’t look for doctors based on if they are black or not. My best obgy was a young white lady. Listened to every thing I said. Ran test without question.
I can’t believe she said this.. shame on her. What’s done in the dark will always come to the light, how people truly feel about you will always come out one day. she never experienced childbearing or childbirth, so in my opinion your least qualified to dictate how a pregnant woman is feeling. Just because your a doctor doesn’t give you the know all, to tell people how they’re feeling during one of the most vulnerable state of a woman’s life, pregnancy. Now you are a part of the problem sis. I’m worried for her patients. Frfr. This lack of empathy for BM is disgusting, especially coming from another BM.
My beloved mother passed away 3 yrs ago. When I went to see my Nigerian, female black physician, she denied my medical leave request. She told me how her mother passed away and she had not seen her in 12yrs although she lived two states over. I believe she mentioned not attending the funeral. People die. Yes…She said people die. As I was leaving the office, the female white LPN told me how sorry she was about my mom and use the time off to take care of myself. When I told her the doctor did not sign off on the request, she gently took the papers out of my hands and told me to come back at 3pm. I picked up my signed request at 3. I was able to receive counseling, close my mother’s home and cry. Literally, today I found myself sobbing in the parking lot of Walmart…just telling her aloud how I love and miss her. You can not tell no one about their pain. I’m so grateful to the LPN.
I’ve seen Jackie in action. She throws her rock and hides her hand. I can’t believe she said this about African American women. We aren’t taken serious because others don’t care about our well being! She is judging pregnant women for wanting to be off, as if others don’t want to be off. I’m so over Dr. Jackie
We as black women are the most disrespected group of human beings on the planet! I even remember when I went to therapy and my therapist was a black woman and I told her I might have autism and she laughed at me and told me I need to stop going on social media, and I was like WTF?! I requested a new therapist and they had referred me to another who is Indian and when I told him the same thing, he referred me to get tested for a diagnosis and it turned out I have Asperger’s, an autism spectrum because I was always socially awkward and wondered why I couldn’t hold a conversation. This was 15 years ago when I was 27 and I’m glad the other therapist helped me out, unlike the first one. As a doctor you need to listen to your patients and take them seriously.
Drs like this scare me, they’re the reason why mothers and black people drop dead and die. Also Dr Jackie reminds me of a person who gets any kind of success they let it go to their head
🤬😤Heck, no, it is quite the opposite. I have a very high tolerance for pain. When I was in labor, the mere fact that I wasn't screaming and over. The top people down played my pain. (Husband and mother included) It was very annoying and disheartening. Oh, I'm sorry, mammy's like this our dangerous. She needs to have her license revoked. I don't know who she is. But I don't like her! This happens to be the case with a lot of b women. We have been conditioned not to appear to be a burden, not to express our pain. So, no one takes us seriously. I have never seen an instance where black women over exaggerate pain never never.
That is horrible to hear but sadly not surprising. Womens health care is not taken seriously, black womens health care even less so and this is the reason
This is just simply not true. If anything, I’ve been guilty of gaslighting myself about my own symptoms, waiting until the LAST SECOND to go to the doctor and being told I should have come in way sooner.
We as black women are definitely treated differently and wrongly. I had literally just given birth by Csection my 2nd one to be exact. I had my daughter at 9am it was 10 minutes past 10 am and they were transferring me to my private room and transferring from the gurney to my bed and told me to lift myself up from my pelvic area mind I had just undergone surgery cesarean section about an hour before. RIP mom. If it wasn’t for my mom who told me no you’re not going to lift yourself up by the pelvic area you’ve just given birth they need to get more nurses to lift you and transfer you to this bed my naive ass would’ve done all while being in excruciating pain. I thank god for my mom being there with me in that moment everyday! Miss you mommy continue to protect us 🥹😘🙏🏾
Dr.Jackie cannot have a baby so she is bitter,angry black woman without showing it. She wears A mask 😷 and hides behind her hurt and pain.. I love Dr.Jackie pray for her..( pain in her heart)🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
This is a very tone deaf statement. As an ER nurse who works with pregnant women a lot, the level of uncertainty in pregnancy is what makes women seek help and really reassurance for even the most “minor” things. But this should not be considered them crying wolf. Everyone’s level of knowledge of healthcare and pregnancy is different and her statement is very dismissive. And as someone who has received prenatal care from both an African American and a Caucasian woman I can say seek obstetric and gynecological care from someone not based on whether they’re black or not but who share the same values as it relates to ObGyn care. I received amazing care from both physicians.
My mom is a doctor and sometimes they lack emotional intelligence. Also my mom is 65 so I think it is a generational gap from reality. I say she is similar to Dr Jackie except she is a Delta and not an Aka lol. Like words matter. I don’t know if it’s easy to hold all the scientific book smart knowledge and emotions at the same time. That’s why I really love Dr Simone. Clearly she is a great doctor and has been practicing for over 20 years. However, she is so involved and emotionally connected to her family, patients and friends. Seasons ago she was begging her husband for more emotions. So she expects the same energy from her loved ones too. I think that’s a special gift that not every doctor holds. It’s something you can work on and I’m sure Dr Simone had to build hers at some point idk maybe it’s natural for her. It’s harder to do in the later years cause you just use to the way you operate, however a nice effort for change in your approach to work and life will benefit a lot of people.
Bravo is not going to remove her from the cast, this is the most attention this show has gotten in YEARS! They’d rather have her back to use her as the source for ppl to hate watch the show than to lose the little buzz they’re getting this season.
Sometimes its hard to empathize and have compassion when we are not familiar with or haven't experienced something ourselves. Regardless of how many babies she has delivered, she doesn't know how it feels to carry a baby or what you feel as your body transforms and go through changes due to pregnancy beyond her textbook knowledge and what she's being told...just as we can never truly understand what she experienced during her cancer journey. I wonder how she would have felt if her doctor made similar statements about her during her battle with cancer . This is disgusting and I'm sorry she was never able to experience the joy of motherhood and pray that God heals her heart ❤
What Black women are trying to get off work during pregnancy? Who is going to pay their bills? Black women are the most likely to work to the last month of pregnancy and be the first ones back after birth from my very clear observations.
I was suffering from lupus for a year. Got diagnosed after a year and a half. While being hospitalisated my pain was not taken seriously because doctors Believed i could handle it. And it took to long to diagnose lupus because they wouldnt take my symptons seriously. Im so disappointed this is coming from a black woman. Truly.
Welp this makes me glad I had white doctors during my pregnancy/labor/delivery who actually cared. They were so kind and listened to every request and concern I had. They even let me sit and cry when I told them I was scared to give birth because of BWs maternal death rate is so high. My white doctor sat there, pet me up and told me "youre not going anywhere, not on my watch!" and they gave me the best care. I tell my story because Im learning all skin folk ain't kinfolk.
I’ll say this, I always looked at Jackie side eyed. From the time she tried to put her way of living and eating on the other ladies. Just because she’s a cancer survivor. So she felt she had the right to tell the ladies what to do with their bodies. I used to be an EMT and when someone says they are in pain rather you believe them are not, you STILL should treat as such. Just because that one time can be fatal. Dr Jackie would be one of the drs I would not have gotten along with had she worked in ER. She has poor bedside manners. Also women on Medicaid or the ones most likely not to survive. Truth be told people with Medicaid are treated worse than people with insurance. Fact! So her not excepting Medicaid is not helping much for those women who are dying the most.
When I was giving birth there was a black woman doctor who was doing her job so aggressively and hurting me. I could literally feel her anger the other woman with her made her leave and brought in someone else. Let’s just say I’ll never have another child.
I remember her being so hurt and angry when she found out she could not have children because of breast cancer. That alone would not have made her a choice for me. Not having kids is one thing but being secretly jealous and bitter because everyone coming to see you has the one thing you don’t is totally different.
This is very disappointing to hear from a licensed doctor/professional. It is so hard for black women to be taken seriously no matter what is going on with their health. She really is apart of the problem…. I hope one day when she needs help she doesn’t come across a doctor that says she’s dramatic.
You really have to be your own advocate. I work in pharmaceutical and get first hand accounts about how patients were not taken seriously or dangerously misdiagnosed. This is especially sad coming from a practicing doctor. Her license needs to be revoked. People who genuinely want to help people should be doctors, not her.
I remember an Indian doctor saying they were taught that black women have a higher tolerance for pain so you don't need to do something every time we complain (I'm paraphrasing)
On the show her advice to women is to advocate for themselves but it seems by this remark Dr. Walters is apart of the problems.
Obviously,, there is a reason black women are complaining more during pregnancy if their mortality rates are higher. If the medical professionals took their complaints more seriously than maybe they wouldn’t be dying at higher rates.
She will get her karma unfortunately
As a physician myself. Her statement is abhorrent. Black patients, especially black women, are not taking seriously enough
I’m still walking around with a molar I asked to be removed but getting the run around for weeks…black women are tired 😪
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@@indigojes if you are in an urban area, check is any of the universities around you have a dental school. many take walk-in emergency appointments at a highly discounted rate, they usually only let senior year students work on you, and they're extremely nice and attentive because their boss/teacher is close by observing and checking in on you. i've used their services many times and never been disappointed.
Agreed!
Also a physician here: I think it’s important to also discuss the ways black patients will be judged negatively for things they cannot help.
Black patients are more likely to ‘no show’ their medical appointments. they’re more likely to not get tests the Dr ordered done on time (transportation, child care issues etc). They’re more likely to not take medications that are prescribed due to affordability issues.
I say all of this to say, there are systemic issues at play that unfortunately make Drs of all races label Black patients as ‘difficult’ or ‘Non-compliant’. If you don’t take the time to ask what barriers your patients have to decent medical care, its easy to assume they’re not taking their health seriously or that they’re just making stuff up.
I don't think we complain enough. We are expected to be strong no matter what is going on with us physically or mentally.
This!!!!! I know of more black women who didn’t speak up than cried wolf .
Yes! I remember going to a Black Female GYN and stating how I was experiencing pain and discomfort. I was told that I’m a “strong Black woman” and that I’d be fine. SMH.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!
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This is not disappointing. It’s absolutely disgusting. How dare she lump an entire population into one category and systematically discredit us. Empathy is supposed to be a practice tool, and she should be keenly aware of the difficulties that black patients encounter due to stigma. For shame!
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This is why I don't give too much attention to buying black or going to a black doctor. I support what provides the best product and services for what I need, regardless of race.
That part
Same. I’ve always had the worst experiences with “black owned” anything
Period
Thissss! I went to a black owned restaurant and was treated like trash
@@MrzTeria so sad
I can’t believe she would even say something as wrong as this the rate in which black women are dying in childbirth this is disgusting
Having worked in healthcare I have encountered a lot of black women who do come in lying trying to get us to write fake doctors notes. I know this because they’ll tell me how their homegirls told them how to lie to get time off (I’m black if that’s not obvious hence why they felt comfortable telling me that 😅). I of course help when I can but she’s not completely off base for her comments. I’ve had to tell multiple black women to not be so loud when talking to me because I didn’t want them to be caught 🥴😭
...making statements like this while advocating and bringing awareness to the issue of the high percentage of deaths during child birth amongst black women vs other races.
Actually had the nerve to film the actual meeting she had with the vice president as an advocate regarding this matter...smh
As a BW, I’ve had quite a few unpleasant experiences with Black doctors. This is just reminding me that its important to pick the BEST doctor for you. One that not only knows what they’re doing, but one that makes you feel CARED for. If you have to go elsewhere (doctor of a different background), then do it. Your health is more important.
Dr. Jackie gives me anti-BW energy. She seems to not be comfortable in her own body, so she projects it onto other women. That’s all these shows are with bw. I don’t see how y’all can watch them. I don’t care how educated or wealthy they are, they’re not the best representations of us as women.
@Nina513 I’m with you on your statement. That’s why all my Doctors are of a different race simply because of the way AA women are treated.
Not the best representation , yes so true. She always gave me those vibes as well
I wholeheartedly agree. About two years ago I was really disappointed, I had a viral infection and went to the urgent care for treatment. The Black female doctor who I believe was 2nd generation West African dismissed me and gave me a gross liquid pain reliever to numb my throat instructed me to continue taking over the counter cold medicine. I went back nearly a weak later when my symptoms persisted and the White male doctor actually seemed to care, noted that my lymph nodes were swollen and prescribed me viral medication.
@@meadowgailer5659 Wow. That’s another conversation within itself: Black doctors from foreign backgrounds and how their behavior and treatment changes in the presence of certain ethnic groups. I just recently experienced it with an African male doctor. This is REAL!
I had a male AA dr treat me worse than any doctor I've ever encountered. Next level demeaning. At the same time, my fave dr is an AA woman so it depends on the person.
This is one of many reasons why so many black women are so distrustful of the medical community. It results in real life medical issues not being properly treated.
Agreed. I have a serious medical condition and I didn’t even feel comfortable going to the doctor when I had issues because some do act this way.
I have experienced this from a black woman OBGYN and white nurses when I was in labor.
Thankfully, nothing was wrong but, they kept telling me to go home and that I wasn’t about to have my baby.
My water ended up breaking right there and I didn’t even have time to get an epidural.
The birth of my child was very traumatic and I thank GOD I didn’t leave because I don’t know what would have happened if I gave birth at home.
Made me lose trust for every doctor/nurse I seen my entire pregnancy so far smh it just adds up they don’t care about us
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Dr. Jackie should not have marginalized pregnant black woman knowing that historically we have been deemed animals and don’t feel pain. Shame on her.
Shame on her! This pissed me off to a new level!
We have the “HIGHEST” rate of mortality during pregnancy 🤰🏿 That is why we are so dramatic 🤦🏿♀️😞
@@taz9234RIGHT!! Like, she really couldn’t put those 2 together??? Just an educated fool like Mariah said. She truly is.
And she should know the amount of black women that have complications during pregnancy as well yet still says we're dramatic.
This is not the first time hearing about black pregnant women and high levels of mortality aside from this video can someone tell me why this happens? Just curious
We as black women are already misdiagnosed, not believed, and treated worst then animals by health care professionals in this country. The fact that she had the nerve to bring her tail on the internet to say that mess is disgusting. I am highly disappointed in Dr. Jackie!
She needs to be cancelled point blank period there’s not excuse for that.
Either way she spins it, it still means DOCTORS ARE NEGLIGENT WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK WOMEN. Is not their job to guess or assume anyone is being dramatic. BW have some of the harshest births bc we’re often not in a position to stop working and properly rest. Let’s not mention predisposed issues passed down generationally. She’s literally saying every other woman just takes pregnancy in stride, and if that’s true it’s probably bc ppl listen to them the first and every single time they say something is wrong.
Cry wolf?! Wooooooooow! This is so demeaning of her. So you mean to tell me, this is the thought pattern of such an educated woman?
She’s so out touch. She’s been caring for celebrities, she knows nothing about the ordinary women’s struggles.
She’s vile and disgusting for saying that on national TV. I have been pregnant twice and worked on a heavy medical unit as a nurses. I am scared from ever wanting to carry another child.
Nah she deal with regular people. She is my aunts doctor. I think she is dead wrong for saying what she said though. HOWEVER I've dealt with a Doctor who was a Black Woman who treated me like the way she is speaking and I for the life of me couldnt understand why she acted like my concerns were not important. I think more Black doctors do this than we'd like to admit just because they are Black. We need to start calling them out too.
@@vanessawestbrook6976yesyesyes we definitely need to start calling these doctors out 🤦🏽♀️
@@vanessawestbrook6976the medical education is historically grasp at these ideas to cover why they treat certain people specifically poor or people of color and specific black Americans. There is lack of cultural care and when you are going through medical school trying to speak up for your community is not looked at as positive
I heard she doesn't accept government Medicare. So she still only worrying about the few that can afford her care.
She did Buffy so wrong!!! Buffy should’ve sued her for disclosing her personal health info without consent!
She still can.
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She can’t. Jackie was never her doctor.
@@MiSSViVi23 that doesn’t matter. Im not referring to a HIPPA situation. This is personal, a civil suit for damages could have been filed. Having her sensitive business blasted probably affected her mental health. Jackie would’ve settled to avoid the publicity.
@@victoriacammie Didn’t Buffie talk about it on the show though? I can’t remember but I think she did. And while it was wrong for Jackie to say it on stage in front of all those people, I’m pretty sure Buffie doesn’t have a case.
I’m so glad you’re covering this. I was so shocked when I saw this in the real housewives subreddit. It’s really disturbing to hear this from a black female OB/GYN, and I’m looking at her discuss the mortality of black mothers sideways now. I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised with her outing people’s fertility issues and making snarky comments about other cast member’s weight.
I remember that episode when Dr. Jackie was acting like a jacka** to the other lady. Dr. Jackie thinks shes untouchable, but she can easily get cancelled. Especially since she's now making dangerous and assinie comments about Black women.
We are already ignored when it comes to Healthcare. She did us no justice 😡
Her comments were irresponsible. As a seasoned medical professional as well as a media persona with a large following, this is absolutely unacceptable. No black woman should ever feel comfortable receiving care from her going forward.
Yes, she deliberately destroyed her own career.
Yup!! Smh
She's gotten comfortable. She thought she was above everyone else.
Media persona?
As an African American woman who has been misdiagnosed MANY times and doctors of different races not LISTENING to me when I express something. This makes me SO UPSET!! And for someone who was diagnosed with breast cancer as a black women to say this… please !Get out of health care PLEASE ! Danger to women
Even IF she believed this. It’s incredibly ignorant of her to use her platform/ publicly speak on this knowing her colleagues are white/ non-Black people and will literally use her words against us. That makes me so mad. It’s always that one Black person trying to side with the yts and non-Blacks. Incredibly irresponsible.
Not just 1 ...it's what I believe is mainstay in medical schools
you know at some point there has to be some accountability taken and some discussion had. Things don't just come out of thin air. There's a reason this trope exists about black patients because they are much more difficult especially in that Atlanta area. I have friends who are nurses in those areas and they tell me all the bullshit they have to deal with from some of these people. They don't get STD testing despite being sexually active and promiscuous then come back with diseases, they don't get tests on time or get prescribed medication. They're also just hard to deal with in the hospital sometimes.
Instead of jumping on her throat maybe let this start a conversation about the realities of both, doctors and patients. 🤷🏿♀
@@janisearthlyGirl if you don’t be quite with that BS. If you work in the medical field you are supposed to be professional at all times. IDC how the patient is acting they need to do their jobs simply as that. This is not the fault of patients but 100% the fault of medical professionals if they can’t do their jobs then maybe they need to quite and find another career most of these people are not being dramatic these doctors and nurses just don’t want to do there jobs.
@@babygirla5717 it's always someone else's fault im tired of my community never taking any accountability. This is why I'm done and divested. Have an amazing life.
@@janisearthlyThese women are not going to listen to common sense.
It will never get old how people can confidently lie and make up very well documented statistics. We don’t speculate on whether black women are treated differently by doctors and nurse, we KNOW they are. This is a fact not a speculation anymore.
The epitome of "respectability politics".
That’s why I didn’t know I had cervical cancer for three years. Nobody cared. I even had the police called on me for trying to fix my own pain just to find out a year later that I had cancer. I don’t feel like we’ll get better and it hurts beyond words how I was treated.
Awww boo 😮💨...
I am so sorry to hear that. Praying for your healing ❤️🩹
I pray that you are in remission hun ❤
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Omg where you able to start cancer treatment So sorry Black Queen praying for you and your family 🙏🙏🤎
WTF⁉️
Why would a BW, let alone a BW obgyn doctor, buy into this damaging ideology?
Wow. Same thing racists say. Sad.
BWs pain and suffering is often not taken seriously. We've come to expect this from other groups. It's disheartening to hear this from the very person who is supposed to be more understanding and empathetic of your situation because she's a fellow BW. She should be ashamed of herself; she's let her celebrity status go to her head.
First this feels a bit generational I've noticed older generations energy about things are very different. She said that to that lady over energy she feels she got from black women. Black women are labeled ghetto extra dramatic. We are also already always more criticized by our own. I also agree with the elitist vibes she gives off. I get the feeling she's helping and hurting it's really not a new thing for us. We have a hard time staying balanced many black people who've "made it" can't seem to balance helping the middle and lower class community without a mistep socially. I hope more black Doctors comment about this lets leave it to them to correct her.
When I was pregnant with my son (now 17). I had fibroids and they were extremely painful during my pregnancy. They didn't take my pain seriously until my water broke at five months and I had to be hospitalized for a month and had my son prematurely weighing 2lbs and he had to stay in the hospital for 2 months until he got to 4 lbs and was able to come home. This is sad to here Dr. Jackie state that.
Dr. Jackie should be removed from the show.
And her license should be reviewed because I am pretty sure that the statement made violates a few codes.
I gave birth December 31, 2022 and I had blood hemorrhage where I lost damn near all my blood and let me say this my doctors were on it , only because my husband was on it I’m grateful to be here today that’s how serious it was and my doctors were all white. The white male doctor wasted no time and didn’t question anything that was going on with me. I would advise black women to have home births and opt out of C-sections blood clotting happens a lot after birth I had a vaginal birth. Doulas are needed especially with black women. I’ve seen so many black women being traumatized and dr Jackie saying that was irresponsible. Just like in Clayton county Georgia a black women baby was killed by a black doctor pulling her head off. Black women need to complain more!
That's why I go with whatever race of doctor that gives me the best care because I've still had some rude and dismissive providers even in the mental health field!
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Dr. Heavenly was soooo quick with the no, nope, not me 😂 She’s the real Goat for me!
Now this lady know she damn wrong for that. She gotta go she getting dangerous
Stop putting these folks on pedestals!! Celebrity worship is dangerous in our community.
Amen!
Um I would never go to her practice cause ma’am the black women have highest immortality rates during pregnancy and birth!!! This is shameful!!
Yes 🙌🏿 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🤷🏿♀️They highest but now this will cause us to be ignored more and face death 💀 🤦🏿♀️
This video is not new. I do not agree with what Jackie says but people saying that she never carried a child do not know her history before cancer and if she has miscarried. Also doc Jacki patients are pretty happy with her care. It's odd when old clips come up just bc people are that quad iced her self from a show. The real villain is ignorance. You don't think doctor have said black people are loud and dramatic to cover their mistreatment..many patients are loud and suffering not everyone is cut and demur when ill. Doctors and nurses are supposed to be professional. Doctors who don't want patient asking for work notes are caught up in parenting patients as children like.. they do not need to pas judgement on whether you deserve to be at work or not
But what exactly is her morality rate while you all are judging her?
This is very disturbing and disappointing to hear from a black woman! Years ago when I was pregnant I kept going to the Dr because of pain that I was experiencing and just feeling something off and it was my first pregnancy…..everyone kept blowing me off and saying that everything was fine, just for me to end up miscarrying at 5 months pregnant.
So sorry to hear that. Pregnancy is a scarry thing. When I found out black folks were treated worst statistically, in the medical field AND when that "ick" video on tictok came out some months ago, it kind of made me fearful to be under someone's care while pregnant; I already hate going to the doctor, knowing that I should go more often 😢. I hope with time you continue heal from your tramatic experience sis.
Me too. I didn't even go to my ob unless it was a scheduled appointment except for once. I bled until I was 16 weeks and I kept telling them that I was in so much pain and can't eat. They found out my cervix was torn at 20weeks! They prescribed me hormone pills and I was in pain up until my baby came prematurely at 25 months and I thought I was going to lose my baby. These doctors really don't care about us!
I'm so sorry to hear that ❤
She has been a problem masquerading in poise and influence…….
her statement violates the code of ethics. I wonder what the board has to say about this??
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This is so friggin, sad, especially coming from a licensed doctor, who is meant to represent us
It really be your own people....
Yep, why I be off that train of supporting black business because then they turn around and say stuff like this.
That’s why people don’t want to get pregnant no more.
What?!😂 the lies! I know a few women who are ready to be mothers.
@@emeraldkaysgardenthey didn’t say EVERYONE. But you better open your eyes, every year the number of women who want to have kids goes down.
I agree it’s our society that so cruel, women should be home resting and bc working out and eating.
Eloho is back yall! I was waiting on you to talk about this sis ❤️
This is such a dangerous narrative to push, especially from a black, female doctor. I'm disappointed, can't lie.
Isn’t Dr.Jackies actions borderline a Hippa law violation. Like she should know from practicing that someone’s medical business whether they’re your patient or not cannot be spread to the public.
I was waiting to see this comment! This could possibly be grounds for a lawsuit.
@@free_spirit_148 Exactly! Her actions were so unprofessional and disgusting.
No, it wasn't since she was did not treat Buffie as a patient under her care. But it was tacky, distasteful, and just violation of respect for Buffie in general
@HaAs23 She can still sue for invasion of privacy, no matter if that's her doctor or not.
@@free_spirit_148 ehh maybe, it just doesn't fall under a HIPAA violation
Dr. Jackie is most DEFINITELY coming back next season. this is and will be her storyline. you can't tell me the producers of Married to Medicine and the Bravo execs weren't jumping up and down when all of this started to happen.
“SHE WILL DIE ALONE!” KEVIN SAMUELS GHOST!😂😂😂
Dr. Jackie should have lost her license for divulging personal medical history
As an African American RN, I stand by Hippa law and follow the protocol for my patients past medical history. I seen both episodes of how Dr Jackie body shamed Dr. Heavenly, and the other episode of how she announces Buffy past medical history with out asking for consent to use in the public. The apology was cold to me because I didn’t feel empathy from Dr. Jackie. I’m a fan of the show as well. I really enjoyed seeing Buffy and her spouse. I felt like she did bring a lot to show. I love Dr. Simone attitude, I feel like she is very genuine with her patients and has empathy with great bedside care as a doctor.
Jackie is extremely tone def, she puts on this holier than thou persona because of all her accolades, but in reality she is bitter. She hides behind her success because of her personal failueres( not being able to have a baby ) at no fault of her own of course , but u can tell it’s really affected her.
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@@helenhamilton9561 yes! That too! And u see he not even active this season, he actually tired and annoyed by Jackie but they both refuse to go through a public divorce.
This is heartbreaking. BW deserve to be cared for by doctors with the outmost respect and this is absolutely devastating. She’s got eyes watching her and this is how she behaves. Scary.
Whew chile the ghetto. Medical bias as a provider is crazy. I see it all the time though as a nurse. Meanwhile the yt pts get whatever pain meds they want with no questions asked.
WOW! I had my 3 children in 3 different settings: 1st one in the hospital, 2nd with a midwife and doula at a birthing center, and the 3rd at home with a midwife and doula. My midwife was EVERYTHINGGGGGGGGG!!! She addressed ALL of my concerns and perhaps if physicians weren't short with their patients then the patient would feel more at ease about how their bodies are reacting to the pregnancy.
In regards to my personal experience being in the "care" of a physician and giving birth at a hospital it was straight trash! The ✋🏻👈🏾 male physician treated me as if I was crying wolf and when I gave him my Birth Plan he literally rolled his eyes and said "Oh you're one of those". I did not want to get an epidural and opted for a natural birth, he complained about that, he was doing the MOST in the delivery room and so was the nurse(I'll go into detail if asked), once I had my son the nurse immediately gave me a pill and told me to take it. I did, without questioning it. She then says we have some paperwork for you to sign but we'll have to wait until that pill wears off. I asked what did she just give me, this b-word said "Vicodin, I figured you would be in a lot of pain after all of this and didn't want you to be constantly asking for help with pain". I was pissed! I wanted to enjoy my son and I couldn't because I passed out from taking that mess!
What Dr. Jackie said is EXTREMELY dangerous! Praise unto the Ancestors for my midwives and my doulas!
So sorry this happened to you. If you don’t mind me asking, what other red flags did you see in the hospital? I’m opting for a widwife
@@daphneyharris9908 (I apologize for the length)
in the hospital you're rushed... They're trying to get you in and out of the delivery room ASAP so that the next person can occupy the bed. For example, I was administered "Pitocin" to try to speed up the birthing process being that I developed Pregnancy induced hypertension and threatened that if I didn't fully dilate by a certain time then I would have to get a C-section. I was under a LOT of stress at that point and I felt like I was the problem. Luckily, 2 to 3 hours after that "warning" I dilated to 9 centimeters.
At this point I am feeling the contractions, which I had not been before. Shortly thereafter I'm in full labor, at that point there's an ENTIRE team of people who come into the room so it gets hectic and very stressful. My nurse is literally standing next to me and tapping on the bed as if she's bored and could be someplace better. I unintentionally snap at her and was like "CAN YOU STOP?!?!" She obliged, and I went back to focusing and trying to push.
Now ideally you don't want to give birth on your back because it makes no anatomical sense to do so, therefore you're in this unnatural position and you have to wait until you get the urge to push. Don't get me wrong, you can push when told to, but if you don't feel the urge to push then you could possibly hemorrhage. With that being said, I felt the urge, I pushed, the baby crowned. I felt another urge and it was another good push, the doctor then says "okay go ahead and push again", I told him that my body isn't telling me to push...
This man roughly starts to rub my stomach to the to get my uterus to contract and I asked him "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT?" He says, "So that we can hurry this along, I have other babies to deliver". Within the next two to three pushed my son was born.
When pregnant with my second baby I found a midwife that I clicked with but I was fearful due to my experience at the hospital and I was fearful that I would develop PIH again. My midwife said, "when they first noticed that your blood pressure was elevated and an issue all the doctor needed to do was tell you to cut meat completely out of your diet: fish, vegetables, and fruit". My mouth literally dropped. She went on to tell me what Pitocin is and the issues that it causes with the birthing process. Again, my mouth dropped. My husband wasn't completely sold on the midwife all the way so he says "I just want a guarantee that nothing is going to go wrong with my wife or baby". She asks "Well who in the world would be able to guarantee that?" 🤣 She says that she's not in the business of convincing anyone because when you choose a midwife you're choosing to have the birth that you want so your body, head, heart, and soul has to be all in for both Mom and Dad. She suggested that we go home, talk it over, and watch a documentary called "The Business of Being Born" (I think it's on Amazon Prime)... very Very VERY eye-opening!!!!!!!! At that point I realized that I wasn't the only woman being rushed in the hospital and that this is a common thing and it's ALL about money!
Here are my labor and birth times:
1st baby - active labor started around 2p, water broke at 4:30pm, had him at 11p (Pitocin used)
2nd baby - contractions started at midnight, my water broke at 3a, (when labor starts digestion stops so I eliminated undigested and digested food), quickly showered after (crazy I know), my husband drove us to the birthing center as we arrived by 4:56a, the baby was born in a birthing pool at 6:24a, and were back home by 1:30p.
3rd baby - contractions started around 8a but they weren't too intense, finally called my midwife around 10:45a, she and my doula arrived to our house at 10:57a, water broke at 11:01a, baby was born at 11:10a. The contractions weren't that intense until the very very end.
That is so disgusting for a doctor to say that 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
This is disgusting. Can’t even rely on your own kind to look after you properly. The number negative obgyn in atlanta now.
Someone should talk to the medical board this woman should not be a doctor to anyone!
My coworker is from Lithuania and she said you’re paid for a year the same salary you made before you go on pregnancy leave. They make sure they have a year off or more so the fact that Black women are called dramatic for wanting a few days off is saddening
yes, many other countries have better much better maternity rights than the U.S. I honestly don’t understand why or how some women continue to shell out babies for this country and can’t stay with them past 2-3 months, daycare is expensive, and you have docs like Jackie that want you to be pregnant mules!
@@CarmenSD in austria it's a must for you to go on pergancey leave for at least 2 years
Yes, all of my UK colleagues get a year off after they have their baby. Even the husbands get a month off paid leave.
Some folks really get on to a certain level and just say any flagrant thing, smh. My thoughts and prayers for her patients
Girl where you been!!!! I been missing ya commentary BAD!!
Jackie should be EXTREMELY ashamed of herself. What type of disgusting rhetoric is this? Shes always been the type to throw rocks and hide her hand...very passive aggressive in nature. She masks her messiness with a "nice" demeanor. I'll never EVER look at her the same again 🤷🏾♀️
This is why I don’t look for doctors based on if they are black or not. My best obgy was a young white lady. Listened to every thing I said. Ran test without question.
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All I have to say is WOW 🙄😒 how ignant
I’m crying all kinds of wolf if I’m pregnant especially if it’s the first child I mean I’m making a HUMAN!😂
I can’t believe she said this.. shame on her. What’s done in the dark will always come to the light, how people truly feel about you will always come out one day.
she never experienced childbearing or childbirth, so in my opinion your least qualified to dictate how a pregnant woman is feeling. Just because your a doctor doesn’t give you the know all, to tell people how they’re feeling during one of the most vulnerable state of a woman’s life, pregnancy.
Now you are a part of the problem sis. I’m worried for her patients. Frfr. This lack of empathy for BM is disgusting, especially coming from another BM.
My beloved mother passed away 3 yrs ago.
When I went to see my Nigerian, female black physician, she denied my medical leave request. She told me how her mother passed away and she had not seen her in 12yrs although she lived two states over. I believe she mentioned not attending the funeral. People die. Yes…She said people die.
As I was leaving the office, the female white LPN told me how sorry she was about my mom and use the time off to take care of myself.
When I told her the doctor did not sign off on the request, she gently took the papers out of my hands and told me to come back at 3pm.
I picked up my signed request at 3. I was able to receive counseling, close my mother’s home and cry.
Literally, today I found myself sobbing in the parking lot of Walmart…just telling her aloud how I love and miss her.
You can not tell no one about their pain.
I’m so grateful to the LPN.
I would NOT see her as my physician with those beliefs.
I’ve seen Jackie in action. She throws her rock and hides her hand. I can’t believe she said this about African American women. We aren’t taken serious because others don’t care about our well being! She is judging pregnant women for wanting to be off, as if others don’t want to be off. I’m so over Dr. Jackie
We as black women are the most disrespected group of human beings on the planet! I even remember when I went to therapy and my therapist was a black woman and I told her I might have autism and she laughed at me and told me I need to stop going on social media, and I was like WTF?! I requested a new therapist and they had referred me to another who is Indian and when I told him the same thing, he referred me to get tested for a diagnosis and it turned out I have Asperger’s, an autism spectrum because I was always socially awkward and wondered why I couldn’t hold a conversation. This was 15 years ago when I was 27 and I’m glad the other therapist helped me out, unlike the first one. As a doctor you need to listen to your patients and take them seriously.
I hated all three of my black women therapist . Had three and never again!
Drs like this scare me, they’re the reason why mothers and black people drop dead and die. Also Dr Jackie reminds me of a person who gets any kind of success they let it go to their head
🤬😤Heck, no, it is quite the opposite. I have a very high tolerance for pain. When I was in labor, the mere fact that I wasn't screaming and over. The top people down played my pain. (Husband and mother included) It was very annoying and disheartening. Oh, I'm sorry, mammy's like this our dangerous. She needs to have her license revoked. I don't know who she is. But I don't like her! This happens to be the case with a lot of b women. We have been conditioned not to appear to be a burden, not to express our pain. So, no one takes us seriously. I have never seen an instance where black women over exaggerate pain never never.
I stopped liking Jackie when she shared buffie’s infertility issues and then gave a pissed off half ass apology…
Great commentary ❤
That is horrible to hear but sadly not surprising.
Womens health care is not taken seriously, black womens health care even less so and this is the reason
What’s disgusting is that she could be having these conversations with her non-black and brown colleagues.
*Wussup Muddasuckaz? World’s greatest intro.*
This is just simply not true. If anything, I’ve been guilty of gaslighting myself about my own symptoms, waiting until the LAST SECOND to go to the doctor and being told I should have come in way sooner.
We as black women are definitely treated differently and wrongly. I had literally just given birth by Csection my 2nd one to be exact. I had my daughter at 9am it was 10 minutes past 10 am and they were transferring me to my private room and transferring from the gurney to my bed and told me to lift myself up from my pelvic area mind I had just undergone surgery cesarean section about an hour before. RIP mom. If it wasn’t for my mom who told me no you’re not going to lift yourself up by the pelvic area you’ve just given birth they need to get more nurses to lift you and transfer you to this bed my naive ass would’ve done all while being in excruciating pain. I thank god for my mom being there with me in that moment everyday! Miss you mommy continue to protect us 🥹😘🙏🏾
Dr.Jackie cannot have a baby so she is bitter,angry black woman without showing it. She wears A mask 😷 and hides behind her hurt and pain.. I love Dr.Jackie pray for her..( pain in her heart)🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
This is a very tone deaf statement. As an ER nurse who works with pregnant women a lot, the level of uncertainty in pregnancy is what makes women seek help and really reassurance for even the most “minor” things. But this should not be considered them crying wolf. Everyone’s level of knowledge of healthcare and pregnancy is different and her statement is very dismissive. And as someone who has received prenatal care from both an African American and a Caucasian woman I can say seek obstetric and gynecological care from someone not based on whether they’re black or not but who share the same values as it relates to ObGyn care. I received amazing care from both physicians.
Black Women should not trust Jackie during their pregnancy. This lady said "cry all you want, I know you're faking." 😲🤔 This is disgusting!
My mom is a doctor and sometimes they lack emotional intelligence. Also my mom is 65 so I think it is a generational gap from reality. I say she is similar to Dr Jackie except she is a Delta and not an Aka lol. Like words matter. I don’t know if it’s easy to hold all the scientific book smart knowledge and emotions at the same time. That’s why I really love Dr Simone. Clearly she is a great doctor and has been practicing for over 20 years. However, she is so involved and emotionally connected to her family, patients and friends. Seasons ago she was begging her husband for more emotions. So she expects the same energy from her loved ones too. I think that’s a special gift that not every doctor holds. It’s something you can work on and I’m sure Dr Simone had to build hers at some point idk maybe it’s natural for her. It’s harder to do in the later years cause you just use to the way you operate, however a nice effort for change in your approach to work and life will benefit a lot of people.
Disgusting.
This is why I can’t take anyone who hasn’t given birth opinion about pregnancy and birth seriously.
Bravo is not going to remove her from the cast, this is the most attention this show has gotten in YEARS! They’d rather have her back to use her as the source for ppl to hate watch the show than to lose the little buzz they’re getting this season.
Dr. Heavenly wanted no parts of that conversation. She made sure to remove herself from that statement.
Sometimes its hard to empathize and have compassion when we are not familiar with or haven't experienced something ourselves. Regardless of how many babies she has delivered, she doesn't know how it feels to carry a baby or what you feel as your body transforms and go through changes due to pregnancy beyond her textbook knowledge and what she's being told...just as we can never truly understand what she experienced during her cancer journey.
I wonder how she would have felt if her doctor made similar statements about her during her battle with cancer .
This is disgusting and I'm sorry she was never able to experience the joy of motherhood and pray that God heals her heart ❤
What Black women are trying to get off work during pregnancy? Who is going to pay their bills? Black women are the most likely to work to the last month of pregnancy and be the first ones back after birth from my very clear observations.
Exactly 💯😢
Very sad, why are black women put themselves into struggles, what is the point of getting pregnant if you are struggling to pay bills,
I have been saying STOP going to Gynecologists who do NOT have children. They don’t understand or take your experience seriously.
I was suffering from lupus for a year. Got diagnosed after a year and a half. While being hospitalisated my pain was not taken seriously because doctors Believed i could handle it. And it took to long to diagnose lupus because they wouldnt take my symptons seriously. Im so disappointed this is coming from a black woman. Truly.
I'm so sorry, that's fucking sick.
So sick of people putting down Black American women.
Everyone copies us, use us for their careers, then disrespect us… i’m over it.
When she called out Buffy’s personal medical history is when I started disliking her..
OMG. FROM OUR OWN PEOPLE AND SHE'S A DOCTOR. I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE SHOW WHO THEY REALLY ARE..... PLEASE BELIEVE WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
Welp this makes me glad I had white doctors during my pregnancy/labor/delivery who actually cared. They were so kind and listened to every request and concern I had. They even let me sit and cry when I told them I was scared to give birth because of BWs maternal death rate is so high. My white doctor sat there, pet me up and told me "youre not going anywhere, not on my watch!" and they gave me the best care. I tell my story because Im learning all skin folk ain't kinfolk.
I stopped listening when she called us African American.
Toya is not the true villain it's def Jackie
I’ll say this, I always looked at Jackie side eyed. From the time she tried to put her way of living and eating on the other ladies. Just because she’s a cancer survivor. So she felt she had the right to tell the ladies what to do with their bodies. I used to be an EMT and when someone says they are in pain rather you believe them are not, you STILL should treat as such. Just because that one time can be fatal. Dr Jackie would be one of the drs I would not have gotten along with had she worked in ER. She has poor bedside manners.
Also women on Medicaid or the ones most likely not to survive. Truth be told people with Medicaid are treated worse than people with insurance. Fact! So her not excepting Medicaid is not helping much for those women who are dying the most.
When I was giving birth there was a black woman doctor who was doing her job so aggressively and hurting me. I could literally feel her anger the other woman with her made her leave and brought in someone else. Let’s just say I’ll never have another child.
Dr. Jacket is the Clarence Thomas of the Black medical field. All people want to get days off work. But to act as though Black women do this.
Go after them with a HIPPA lawsuit if your private medical conditions are made public without your permission.
So glad Adeola continued to "cry wolf" as she is here to give her living testimony
She has not always been an advocate babe. Do you watch the show? She and Toya are a handful
I remember her being so hurt and angry when she found out she could not have children because of breast cancer. That alone would not have made her a choice for me. Not having kids is one thing but being secretly jealous and bitter because everyone coming to see you has the one thing you don’t is totally different.