This really is an annoying problem because whenever a new banner comes out usually the only thing to look forward to is the main headlining unit and that's it, they never want to add essential units to these new banners and it really takes away from wanting to summon at all because it just comes down to pull the new unit or get nothing basically.
It's why the Ginyu Force banner was so valuable, 3 1% sparkings is better than a single headlining unit. A beginner could create an entire viable team with that banner alone. They need to take notes from themselves lol.
@@Listteh thats how i did it granted i started last anniversary but i didbt have a concrete t3am, pulled hard on the ginyu banner and got em all 7 stars. Fantastic team
@@KermitTFYT what in the Otherworld are you talking about? Cooler is the strongest in the universe. No adversity or predicament triumphs over him Cooler is one, Cooler is all. Cooler does not need a plat or a zenkai to dominate. His sheer presence is more than enough to dominate this meta. You just need to give him once chance, Goresh. That's all he asks for, that's all he needs Look inside of yourself Goresh. Red EX Frieza is calling to you. In your heart, you know the true answer, and it reverberates throughout your mind... Revisit. LF. Cooleeeeeeeeeeeeeer..............
I love the fact that Goresh makes these constructive criticisms because he really cares about the game and its players, especially considering that we're talking about things that actually don't affect him personally since he gets the characters to 14 stars on day one.
@@getscared_x3I disagree, legends has had some rlly bad low points, this year isn't even close. The only argument you could make is the game might be getting a bit repetitive, but I'm still personally enjoying it. Also the banner format for part 2....
@neutralitykey I'll elaborate where he can't. Aside from the awful banner formats mentioned in the video, there has never been a better instance in this game's history where not having the new units means you lose. Nearly every new release this year is somehow rampant in PVP, and STRICTLY those new units. I'm not kidding. 95% of all matches consist of units released this year + UGB. (This excludes BuuBros, who are just poorly built). Aside from PVP, Legends has obviously been milking the same format, as you've said. Let's have the new character make coop and raids that much easier for everyone. Let's release the same arts boost, zeni or 500cc event if the game is too dry. New story events or EX Zenkais??? Who needs THAT anymore? (Even the devs know that the game is too powercrept for EX zenkais to have any use anymore.) Lets make old SPs be useful by letting them give 50 whole CC anr 5 slot removers!!! And the entire game for the most part is: Either play PVP or do the bare minimum (I.e. nothing at all.) I don't need to mention how many episode campaigns suck. Bait characters and they're almost always just fronts for buffing tags that really matter (e.g. PO, Saiyan, Movies (that was the entire campaign too, btw.) This wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the fact that there has been more LLs and Ultras and LL Zenkais this year than in any other year in Legends history. The tiny minute increases in cc provided (actually even DECREASING sometimes) means all the more, right now, the game rewards the people with the wherewithal to spend as compared to the f2p who relies on the greatest strokes of luck from Loshi. Of course, let's not forget how the only change they wanted to make to PVP was so fundamentally trash they had to completely undo it, making a sum total of 0 improvements to PVP. If there's any high points about Legends this year, it's that they've certainly gotten better at copying Xenoverse animations.
@@srizzyep1616 I disagree. The legends format for units that just dropped being good, has always been this way. The reason I said it's better now is because there is a decent variety of teams and yes the brand new units are gonna be utilised since they should naturally have better kits. I agree that a lot of legends tactics are scummy and I dislike them, but the meta this time around isn't as bad as it has been in certain years, such as back when fsk was good, or vb. I didn't have either of those units at the time and can vouch I had a worse pvp experience. As for cc, it's really not that bad, yes you have to get lucky, but that's cuz it's a gacha game, if ur f2p ur gonna have to save cc for specific banners. Its just the way gacha games work. Ex zenkais aren't really being released anymore, besides we get decent enough f2p units regardless, it's really just free cc. When it comes to pvp I agree, they need to outright remove perfect vanish and make aggressive playstyles more profitable. I also agree with the campaigns comment u made, but it's natural with so many tags being in the game, such as po and uni rep having such a large roster of characters. Personally I'd say this year hasn't been bad, since the issues u stated have always been present, yes overall legends is getting fairly boring, but not this year especially.
@@neutralitykey I just hate how there’s nothing to do besides PVP. PVP gets boring after using the same characters. Im getting bored of using the same characters. I want to run androids but I can’t pull 17 or Cell and since I’m not a whale I can’t spend thousands of dollars on this game. Plus it’s not even “SAVE YOUR CC”. I did 1 rotation got the new beast twice but I did like 9 rotations on evokens banner for 17 specifically and I didn’t even get him 😂😂😂. Shits actually gatekeeping.
I just don't understand why they separate the characters. Isn't making a banner more valuable make people want to summon on it more? Dokkan brings back important units on major banners so it makes it even more valuable to summon on them. I don't understand why legends doesn't do the same thing.
except they quite literally do exactly that. You are having selective bias because dokkan is not a pvp game and therefore getting an old major unit is less of an issue than it is in legends where a unit that came out a month ago can either be now Useless or still top tier
@Coolmeham No they don't? Dokkan puts valuable returning units on their major banners instead of putting them on a separate banner making the value of the banner go up and also gives the player a chance to try to get a valuable unit that they still don't have or the new unit. Legends could've easily put gofrieza and mvp 17 on the evoken banner but decided to instead put them on a completely separate banner with only returning characters. That instantly makes the player struggle to choose between trying to get the new unit or trying to get a returning unit that still has a lot of value. I'm not being biased lol I play Legends way more than dokkan I just think that legends should stop the way they bring back old lfs that are still really good. Adding more value to your major banners instantly makes players want to summon more. I have friends that literally skipped so many banners because they were waiting for gofrieza to return on legends fest. When they found out that they weren't in the either the evoken or transforming beasthan banner they were pretty upset but thought that they were gonna be on the part 2 banner instead. And then to only find out that their return is on a banner that doesn't have any of the new units instantly made them think if it was even worth trying to get gofrieza over the new units.
@IneedleopardLeopard You completely missed my point. I know that they just came back on a banner along with lf self destruct cell. What I'm saying is that they should've put them on the step up banners to make those banners more valuable. But since they were put on a completely different banner that forces the players to choose between summoning for the new units or summoning for a unit that they still don't have.
@@js2003 I dropped out of god rank from top 100 last season because of a massive losing streak (I crashed a lot at the start of season so regardless I wouldn't even get the rewards anyways)
@@js2003it gets worse when you start facing perfectly built teams with 10+ stars characters and godly equips over and over and over Even if you're really good at the game, if there's a decent star gap you won't tank enough and won't do enough damage to win
My biggest issue(s) is the passive play that needs to addressed, add a pity system on all banners and not just LF banners, and fix PV, one can only hope that they get it right next year.
Passive play has been addressed since like the moment they took away vanish restore on float. They just haven't rly found a good solution yet, there's probly some kind of technical problem to overcome.
@@cozy7765Kinda hard when you have two ultras that counter strikes and blasts and get an ult for free. Passive play is at it’s all time high right now.
Also the problem with taking sooo long to return characters is that they might age out by the time they return, they definitely wouldn't be as good as they released so people will miss out on the chance of using them at their best
This year was the best overall year in legends, starting with the powerhouse reps celebration with 17 and hit, then we had incredible aniversery, tons of fun inbetween events including the buu saga, movies saga and even the dragonball saga celebrations, if we get a SSJ4 gogeta for the ultra to end off the year, I think we can say this will be a pretty amazing celebration to wrap everything up
The worst thing they ever did is remove the limited SP banner units pool and add 250 bajilion units that you always get and have 0 relation to the main unit you're summoning for, it's a pain for f2p and whales alike
I think the issue described in the video, combined with the fact that there’s still characters from year 1 of the game on new banners is the worst part of the game rn. It shouldn’t be the same chance for me to pull yellow kid gohan from day one as pulling yellow jiren from the last anniversary that’s actually insane.
You're right Goresh this is a huge problem, the power creep and constant demand to get the newest unit just to even play in the PVP gamemode is a MASSIVE issue not even counting for the RNG asset for it but for people who don't have really any expensive phones the game runs horribly, it's so laggy and sometimes it just closes itself out entirely, i think should also Optimize the game and i would love it if you shed some light about this in a future video to get the word out
Passive play is definitely up there imo, matches going down to the last 40 seconds because neither side will engage is painfully boring. Really doesn't help that you have units like gohan who will absolutely rob you if they PV even once due to vanish reduction
For really bro like, dude 2023 great year but with all new mechanics and not getting a new single best character at least one of the banner hurts me a lot in pvp. As a free to player Idk why I still played 2023 when I got shafted until New LL Namek Goku came into the game and haven't got anyone else until Legend Fest getting both Beast Gohan and tag Bardock & Goku. My 2023 experiences so far have been bad because of how strong characters are compared to 2022 characters. After getting two characters out 3 in Legend Fest I'm winning and that's telling you something and now I'm actually playing pro players in S rank. I have no skills issue just that characters are too meta in pvp. Overall if you get shafted 2023 most of the year then GL pvping 2023 characters you won't have much fun until you get at least one of them.
I'd argue the game is at the worst it's ever been for F2P players because the devs have also taken the liberty of gating a lot of "free" crystals, characters and rewards behind having the new characters every single time one releases, making it practically impossible to meaningfully save beyond the daily missions. I don't feel like this pattern is talked about enough by the wider community. People who didn't pull for (or who got shafted on) Goku and Vegeta or Beast would have to spend 100 runs or more on each of those raids just to get the same rewards as someone who did pull them and only did 10-20. Or, in the case of Full Power Battle, the mode is effectively unbeatable if you don't get the new characters, shafting you out of thousands of Z Power for a "free" unit. This wouldn't be as big a problem if these CC-rewarding events (like Rising Battle with the Ultras and the Raids) came back, but they never do. Never in my time with mobile gaming have I came across a gacha that is as anti-F2P as Legends. At least with Dokkan, if you're willing to invest the time, you can always meaningfully progress. Each new stage cleared feels like an achievement, and "battle bonuses" are only based on Categories, which are much more lax. With Legends, it feels impossible to progress, and the lack of any meaningful PVE for those not into PVP only makes things worse. The only thing it has going for it are its IP and aesthetics. If it wasn't a Dragon Ball game, I think it already would have shut down by now. It's a shame, because the core gameplay is actually pretty fun even against a bot.
If you're going to do a legitimate duplicate banner, they should at least increase the rates. Imagine going 50k cc to pull UL Super Gogeta only to get obliterated in PvP.
They just want money, and I know everyone wants money and end goal is that, but they have surpassed greed , which is bad. I mean they intentionally and learned that 2Ls and a W would make people neutral for game, So they intentionally introduce L even when it can be a W(example goku/bardock banner).So it is something I think people ignore because of hype. Ultra banner can be good, but they just want it to be bad. You pointing out is great.After fest 2021 they have assumed that the formula of 2Ls and a W will make it good. You can just see they just keep are expectation in check, I mean we as a consumer have high expectation, but yeah it is what it is
The biggest problem is them pumping out characters rather than actual content…. Cause wtf. The entire fest and all we get is the weekly raid, some daily stages, and a couple zenkais? Yeah fuck that.
Ultra Banners are god awful The Part 1 ( 1 or 2 LFS ) Part 2 ( 1 or 2 LFS ) then part 3 Ultra set up feels awful and makes player stress on what to summon on. - Ex units are some odd bizarre " treasure " that feel impossible to pull for no reason. - Finally please slow down on goku units and especially Tag Goku units.
@@radiantdiscord2649 releasing goku units is one thing, but the way he's been mashed out since 5th anniversary is a little to much, like this legends fest part 1 and 2 are a tag goku unit while 5th anniversary had one too? And yeaaaah .. they suck
I always joke with my friends about being unlucky in this game even though I've been playing since 2021 but I end up being disappointed at how annoying it is to not have an ULTRA and have an absurd disadvantage in pvp, I simply don't win any characters from the banners that launch and I always spend everything and I'm left with nothing because they don't give so many crystals, what I have left are secondary characters and some zenkais...
@@halftimebeing6401what? In dokkan system you are guaranteed the unit later. Legends you CAN guarantee it in the first banner but most f2p will not actually hit enough summons to guarantee a unit from my understanding due to cc cap.
I might be crazy but the worst thing about this game by far is the constant need of zeni. Brother, what the hell. I went like 10 bill in 10 minutes and it's not that easy to gather it. Takes a lot of damn stamina.
and arts boost being RNG... why when they already take a lot of resources? like 3 and half million zeni for arts boost from 70 to 99, too much thing in this game cost zeni and too much zeni
Took a break from legends after ultra super vegito and came back after T.O.P 17 release ever since I'm not able to settle myself into the meta (lack of new units)being a f2p because of the same issue discussed in the video. Basically their summon system is not able to keep up with the powercreep I would say.
I want to play legends so badly but the summoning is just so atrocious. Dokkan has given me a taste of what banners should be like and when I try any other gacha game I just hate it.
Another problem I like to point out is everytime you play PVP against someone it's so laggy and even when you press on a card to attack the game doesn't register your command which I find so frustrating at times hence why I lose alot! I don't mind losing but when it's unfair because of game issues or laggy then I get annoyed about losing the match because of these reasons! I agree with the summoning issue too mentioned in your video.
I honestly think a big problem is the rising rush system. It’s not about it being like damaging or crazy but the rate that you get dragon balls is wild to me, you can be hit with only 5 cards and get rushed immediately. I think the issue here is that the rates of getting dragon balls is way too high and that if it’s fixed, the pvp would be a lot better. Only cause you fight against units that can force more cards to be drawn out and force a rising rush to pop up.
Yeah, a frequent thought playing this game is “Damn, I don’t really have a lot of characters” I wanna play different teams but I’m stuck playing the same ones due to things like zenkai limbo and meta vs non meta
Thank you Goresh for pointing this out. I’ve been saying for a while this is a major issue. Especially during major celebrations. If Dokkan did this players would be pissed, and for some reason many legends players don’t care. I feel like devs will continue to do this. It is unbelievable summoning and pulling old, horrible LF units.
Maybe it's not a big problem, but I would like to see the cc limit increased to around 30/35 thousand. and up to about 50/70 thousand if you don't have the Legends Pass (they can throw away the tickets because they are useless). Next thing is more LBR tickets... double the amount and it would be good, even with these ridiculous opening hours. Another issue concerns Raids. I've been playing for over 1600 days and I still can't get the 100% bonus without new characters. I know they want us to buy cc and summon new characters, but the 100% bonus should always be there, the only thing new characters should do is increase the amount of that bonus. The items in the raid trade shop are so expensive that you have to retrace them thousands of times to clear the shop. Even if you're a hardcore gamer, it's almost impossible without new characters (and being shafted is not unheard of these days). Mega bonanza is shit. If you want to roll over platinum, you need to prepare thousands of erasers and trillions of credits. The final step of Hoi-Poi is simply a scam. During the 5th anniversary I used over 20,000. coins on last step and didn't drop a single 600 Z power for LL. So I just didn't bother with hoipoi at Legends Festifal this year. It's not worth it. And i agree with not bringing back characters more often on baners with now characters. When it comes to pvp, maybe they should introduce ki loss if you don't perform an action for at least 5 - 8 counts. This could also result in a penalty in the form of not counting the combo for the first two cards after a long break without attacking or any action. If the combo is too long, maybe they should finally stop designing characters that can use 10-20 cards at a time. After 5-6 cards, combo compensation should increase enough to make the damage dealt almost zero, or the cost of the cards should increase. Alternatively, the opponent should be able to interrupt the combo with a special skill that could charge. This could be a new mechanic where, after charging the bar, the player is able to perform an absolute cover change without losing the cover change charge on the character who performs it. Of course, this special cover change could be combined immediately with subsequent cards. The idea of a quick attack with the possibility of combos is good. Maybe they would introduce something like Fast Blast. In a similar way, when you are at a distance and quickly slide to the side, you end up doing a tap. This causes a side step feint combined with a blast similar to co-op, where 3 bullets fly at once. They would be faster than normal, of course, and almost unavoidable.
The biggest problem is talking about problems and not solutions and I believe creators like goresh are far out of touch in this regard based on him playing mostly from a perspective of having maxed out units The average player issues are not highlighted very well
Yeah my biggest issue is how bad the rates are for new EX units.. like.. the vast majority are going to get shafted... atleast give us a good chance to get SOMETHING
The incredibly predatory practices they do for resource consumption and summoning honestly drove me off the game shortly after trying it. It takes an unholy amount of like 4 different currencies to reroll equipment for what seems like forever, can't say how fed upI was when I pissed away the 1,000th slot remover for a worse equip than I started with.
How do you have a shortage of slot removers? I have like 400 sitting in my gift box. Zeni is super easy to get and just play the game and you get the other currencies.
Another thing I'll point out about the Revival UI return is they made the banner significantly worse for people who actually wanted to run him On his original run, he came with both new ex units and also LF units who could be run with him, such as Evo, Jiren and Mui, and some zenkai buffers for him like SSJ3 Goku. This meant the banner was okay for putting together a team with him The rerun replaced all of the useful units. Evo, Mui and Jiren were swapped out for future gohan, kid buu and broly who aren't even team relevant to him, and he lost the zenkai buffers on his initial banner replaced by meh zenkai LF's. They also straight up removed the ex units. They literally just brought back his banner, made it substantially worse and forced people to use that to acquire him.
I used to who’d give up on old banners because “I’ll get the unit eventually” Nowadays, if I don’t get the LL or Ultra, I’m probably not going to see that unit in my box in forever. I think it took me 10 months later to receive LL Cooler after his initial release. I can’t imagine where and when Go/Bardock will be placed eventually
I feel like they need to look at the teams units they release and add more units even if they were ex. And add banners where they add units from teams that need help. For a a few gacha games i play a lot of units go to the general pool so I feel like they should add alot more units to the general pool and stop trying to hold back units just so they can be on a banner where there’s probably no reason to waste chrono crystals for them by chasing them
My issue is just banners for sure at this point. If the headliner is the ONLY thing new in banner, it should be a 2% chance to pull, or banners meant to rerun a bunch of Lfs should be 2% considering how bad the unit lineup is. Ridiculous. I am still going, 15 months now, without a single lf pulled from a banners let alone a new unit. Again. The most recent lf I have is lf cooler, and that’s when his banner was out. And yes I double checked. I couldn’t even pull the ginyu force after 22k cc worth of rotations. I think the ONLY new sparking i got was the ssj Gohan from last cell banner. And I can’t even use him. It’s bogus. Like cmon. Throw me a bone. It’s ridiculous.
Agreed that 2023 has been a big dub for DBL. new mechanics and updating old units too. My android 16, ult vegito blue squad is somehow viable and i think thats amazing. Balanced pvp since earlier years too. W to the team and your review of our game
Problem for me is people can drop 200 bucks or and not pull the featured unit, causing the in game play and PVP more difficult for some most of all annoying 😡
They could also remove some of those ancient units from banner as well. We have a ton of ways of getting them anyway. I struggled to get Sparking Mecha Freeza for months because they took forever to put him as a filler character, and when they did, there was a ton of older units messing up with the summoning percentages. By the time I managed to get him, he was not even good enough for a bench unit. Heck, they could update those ticket banners since those are also jurassic in terms of featured units. Have new players summoning on those for older units. Keep the newer banners limited to some somewhat newer units. If they're older than 3 years, they shouldn't be appearing as filler units.
Easily perfect vanish imo I’ve been so confused as to why this mechanic exists since the beginning of this game when I started playing. This game’s PvP could move in an ENTIRELY new direction if they didn’t had such a strong offensive and defensive mechanic Edit: also you not revisiting LF cooler 👀
nothing loses me a game more than watching the other player get a perfect vanish because i wanted to play aggressive. it's so stupid, but i get why people play so passively lmao
Having pv is a good thing as much as it is a bad thing, Imagine not having pv and now youre forced to lose 3 vanishes and immediately get RRd because you can no longer pv. People beg for these changes and then when they realize it was necessary in the game they whine about the change.
@@Coolmehamlosing 3 vanishes from constantly switching sounds more like a passive player problem ngl, I have no problem catching people on sidesteps or taps after I use my vanish
@@Coolmeham that’s what people deserve for playing too passive. In fact that’s a very welcoming change since there are multiple ways to counteract that style but people don’t attack because of the fear of pv
Yeah, the banners are a big problem. This goku and bardock being the most egregious currently but even the pikkon banner was absolutely terrible. I usually put a little cc into most banners unless its something I really want but that banner was so bad I couldn't see a reason to summon. This "Legends rising" , mega rising and ultra banners need an upgrade. The step up lf banners should be the standard honestly.
The thing is that they want to make us spend cc, so theyre saying basically: if you dont summon now, youre not getting this character any soon! So we cant save cc for the major celebrations
Another huge problem is that rising rush is intended to be a comeback mechanic but it’s really just a win mechanic. If you’re losing in pvp and you get rushed GG
@@kiwi_the_kiwikiwi6366 I completely agree, sometimes people get their rushes against me 10 timer counts after they combo me and me trying to disperse damage between units will get rushed and not guess them. There was one game that me and my opponent were on our last characters and I was hitting him with a combo and had not previously gotten my rush, long story short my combo ended and I was missing one db for my rush and never got it causing me to lose the game (I had no vanish as I perfect vanished him to start the combo)
Another thing to bring up is dokkan brings back strong characters on almost every banner. When characters eza, they drop the legendary summon which is bad for most players stones wise but for me on here I’m literally saving Z power to make 4* ape vegeta 7*… it would be Wayyy better if they had that banner format with like a 5% chance at the zenkai unit then having to wait on the limit break banner. That only gives 1000 z power while one copy is more on most formats.
You do not for whatever reason get the side banner unit you want no matter the banner. I spent over 40k cc on tag 4s and got zero Yellow 4ku copies (Yes)
Don't forget that's there's always a chance to get the unit in dokkan when they return with the coins you save. I genuinely dislike the fact we don't get zenkai banners with the main unit being zenkai cause it just forces you to hope that they're on a main banner like with bardock or ape Vegeta, even then you're most likely not gonna pull the unit you want to zenkai it's either some character you could use/can't use or the new characters they release fir said banner
@@Deathclaw7 That’s a fact. My power level is only 120k on dokkan, and I’ve played enough to buy Ma Jr and 23rd wt goku with coins ( I wasn’t playing during that ww). 400 df coins is like what 2,000 stones?
@@Deathclaw7 Like in my case I made Ape 1400, have the free 600, so I CAN do the limit break next month but im tryna get Gogeta! (Or if it’s like mui), I could totally keep summoning on Evo kaioken , but I already got 2 copies and golden Friezas red 5. I was in the same spot had GT 17 14 stars two times over (pulled him 15 times) and tag 4s at 7*. If they had the legendary summon type banner, I could have stopped and easily got a 4ku copy and Z powered him. Not doing that again
@@coopdothemostI think it might be 2k but thats also not counting units you may have rainbowed and can exchange the dupe and I hate how they don't even have a banner for zenkais all they have is just the awakening z power and thats it , how am i supposed to zenkai a unit like lf bardock or 4ku both of whom i have at three stars cause I can't for the life of me pull them and I like those units I can't even use them do to how bad they are post zenkai i had to use my 600lf z power on great ape Vegeta since all i needed was 600 to be able to zenkai him
They need to just make old Ultra banners permanently available. People should be able to summon for UL Super Gogeta, UL Super Vegito, and UL SSBKK Goku whenever they want. Eventually throw Broly into the mix. If they’re really feeling generous, they could package some of the older Ultras together like putting Super Gogeta and Super Vegito on the same permanent banner. I’d prefer this to having old Ultras on new Ultra banners because of how hard it is to just get the new Ultra. If I see the Ultra orb pop up on screen when I’m summoning for UL SS4 Gogeta and it turns out that I pulled UL Super Gogeta, I’m going to go outside and start punching trees until my hands break.
I’m just shocked that both Dokkan and Legends are fine with having these years-old animations still at this point and when they do something like add the dimension shatter to the Broly summon animation they expect us to be blown away. Like no DO BETTER these games make millions of dollars how can you not keep summon animations fresh.
Another big thing I think they should change with summoning, is the pull rate for new EX units. It makes absolutely zero sense that they have lower rates than even Ultra characters. They arent even that good most of the time. Even new sparkings have at least 1% rates, so you would think a lower rarity EX character would have like 2% or at least 1.5% rates. That or just dont even bother with new EX characters anymore. Just make them 1% sparkings.
My biggest problem in the game. Is pvp not balanced well. And before you say is because i suck well let me say not exactly the point. Back then i used pvp as a chance to get more cc's to grind more if i stay in the 9000 to 4000 rank just for more cc grinding. And the problem is you get constant battles were you lose everytime for example i lost 10 matches even if i had most of the best units in the game and not get a win. Well you get a win once but then you lose constantly again... for me it happened to me after a whole progress for me to get to 5000 rank and then stop. But then i got back to 18000 rank... thanks to all the lossing battles even after no matter how much skill i had. I still lost the battle... I quit PVP grinding after that if it kept happening... its like you almost have no fun on pvp anymore if youre only there for CC grinding. Made me rage and scream alot of the time that it was not good for me and it shows how bad pvp is right now. Dont know about the others but just saying in my experience
i feel like its also tied into the fact that they dont dish out that much cc anymore so f2p dont really have cc to spend on these banners so it is kind of understandable.
I haven't seen too many people say lag these days, j know that is still a problem here and there hut nothing like it used to be. Im glad they've improved a lot there. But making scummy business decisions isn't going to stop so all in all I'd have to agree with goresh that this is their best year yet
Biggest problem in the game is Legends devs not implementing a system where you can get certain Legend Limited characters after a certain amount of time guaranteed with tickets you get from summons (Like Dokkan's coin system).......oh wait my fault they do have a system like that. The Legends Ticket exchange shop, but they just never fucking update it at all!!! There's legit no type of underlying motivation to look forward to like Dokkan when you get shafted on a banner. You legit have to wait for the unit's banner to come back and for most F2P characters they still cant get those units probably. Definitely Ultra units. Summoning for Ultra units seems like a waste to summon for as a F2P player.
A complementary element of the summon system I actually DEPISE, is the Legends Ticket system. Compared to the coin system in Dokkan it’s a joke, Absolutely abysmal🤦🏽♂️
The summon problem really shines when you pump a ton of cc into the banner and don’t pull a copy of the new character and now have to deal with the realization that you will pretty much never be able to use the character for at minimum 6 months
From watching the videos, watching how passive a lot of opponents play (and sometimes even you) makes it so tedious to watch/play. A lot of people won’t attack due to the fear of being PV’d or rushed. I love the slower dragon ball gather rate but man does the passive play piss me off.
I think that the last great banner was the Gofrieza banner, 3 very good sparkings (one of them was Jiren), the best unit in the game at that point and also the best LF zenkai (UI Goku), you can make a whole team with that banner
I wish they would add more original series events for some more cc. I also wish they could add a boss rush equivalent event to the game that gives good rewards. They should also take away the stupid drop chance % from raids too.
The BIGGEST problem is some of us aka ME GETTING FUCKIN PERMA BAN BECAUSE THE GAME HAS SHITTY SERVERS SOO I GET ACCUSED OF "CHEATING" and no im not restarting
This is why for YEARS I’ve never listened to content creators who say skip a banner during a major celebration. Idc if an OP ultra is coming. They’re NEVER bringing back these characters on banners.
I think the biggest problem is that whether you're F2P or not you cannot earn your weekly amount of chrono crystals simple by missing one of the daily mission completions. Atleast in the past we received a consistent amount of rewards for that day based on that day's completion. Now they gatekeep the chrono crystals at day 6 and 7 so if you miss day 4 or 5 you have to start over with nothing to show for it. Due to this issue you can easily stay stuck at low to no chrono crystals, and as a result you aren't eager to do your daily missions anymore because it's the opposite of a rewarding experience.
For me it's all the other content in the game which is pretty much non-existent. Co-op is pure garbage, Top is there, story mode is there, and the beginning events are good for beginners but once your done with them they're just nothing. I just wish they'd implement fixes to co-op and more content for us to enjoy over a longer period.
My favorite aspect of the game is spending 30k chrono after recently coming back to see exactly why I left. Literally get the oldest and most useless cards that can’t compete with the meta
But yeah, he is not wrong with the summoning system. I made a short on when the return of Gamma 1 & 2, I feel that I needed to make a short to advise ppl not to summon, when legends fest was like 3-4 days away.
The predictability of a units impact is hurting how much I spend / play the game. Here’s recent examples Ginyu force, didn’t summon cuz u have to get all 3. Namek goku, is a direct counter to vegito , he might as well be Ssj Cooler PTP Goku , 8er and roshi were filler characters and I knew dragon balls would get nerfed because of vegito Jr and goku : can’t lie I summoned way too big of a dbz/ db (early on) piccolo fan Janemba : he is an ultra countering the previous best ultra, the drop a character that’s red that’s still better than him, just like Gogeta blue and Goku frieza post buff compared to Buu. I didn’t summon because I didn’t see vegito go away like Gogeta did
In which evo kaioken and gohan are way better than all those units besides janemba who’s up there with them. It does “benefit” me but why would i spend money if I don’t see the point in most banners (note cell is too strong I summoned for him I think everyone should’ve)
In my opinion i would say that legends have to do something with the passive playstyle everyone just plays for PV and its annoying that the passive players are rewarded for playing such way
it’s really sad to see legends trying to rake money through the coals by returning units on banners with no new units, but it’s nothing new. legends has always been greedy, and that will never change, sadly.
I feel like adding the old ultra’s , would take away the frustration of getting shaft if it’s at least a unit you don’t have even tho they aren’t the new one, as a new players since UVB, I have kinda bad support, or not high enough, and the equip are so are to roll for, I’ve done like 100 times only for one 3-4 times already, I feel like i had to start from the start to even compete against people in PvP
My biggest problem is ultra banners.. if i dont pull the ultra on the first release im never going back to summon for them later. So i will never get them. Especially with the terrible drop rates
Ive been wanting a equip like the friendship equips for zeni. If they not gonna make the cost cheaper then let us just get zeni easier. It cost so much energy even on weekends
This really is an annoying problem because whenever a new banner comes out usually the only thing to look forward to is the main headlining unit and that's it, they never want to add essential units to these new banners and it really takes away from wanting to summon at all because it just comes down to pull the new unit or get nothing basically.
It's why the Ginyu Force banner was so valuable, 3 1% sparkings is better than a single headlining unit. A beginner could create an entire viable team with that banner alone. They need to take notes from themselves lol.
Got shafted the entire year ....
@@Listteh thats how i did it granted i started last anniversary but i didbt have a concrete t3am, pulled hard on the ginyu banner and got em all 7 stars. Fantastic team
Why aren’t people complaining about this?!!! This is exactly what im saying as well for so long now
The biggest problem is u not revisiting lf cooler
Not until he gets a zenkai or plat lol. He’s just a glass cannon.
@@KermitTFYTcannon would imply he does damage wich he no longer does
@@KermitTFYT what in the Otherworld are you talking about? Cooler is the strongest in the universe. No adversity or predicament triumphs over him
Cooler is one, Cooler is all. Cooler does not need a plat or a zenkai to dominate. His sheer presence is more than enough to dominate this meta. You just need to give him once chance, Goresh. That's all he asks for, that's all he needs
Look inside of yourself Goresh. Red EX Frieza is calling to you. In your heart, you know the true answer, and it reverberates throughout your mind...
Revisit. LF. Cooleeeeeeeeeeeeeer..............
Nope
Ong
I love the fact that Goresh makes these constructive criticisms because he really cares about the game and its players, especially considering that we're talking about things that actually don't affect him personally since he gets the characters to 14 stars on day one.
Doesn't matter. The game getting worse an worse every year.
And i think i can say that, because I'm playing this game since the beginning.
@@getscared_x3I disagree, legends has had some rlly bad low points, this year isn't even close. The only argument you could make is the game might be getting a bit repetitive, but I'm still personally enjoying it. Also the banner format for part 2....
@neutralitykey I'll elaborate where he can't.
Aside from the awful banner formats mentioned in the video, there has never been a better instance in this game's history where not having the new units means you lose. Nearly every new release this year is somehow rampant in PVP, and STRICTLY those new units. I'm not kidding. 95% of all matches consist of units released this year + UGB. (This excludes BuuBros, who are just poorly built).
Aside from PVP, Legends has obviously been milking the same format, as you've said. Let's have the new character make coop and raids that much easier for everyone. Let's release the same arts boost, zeni or 500cc event if the game is too dry. New story events or EX Zenkais??? Who needs THAT anymore? (Even the devs know that the game is too powercrept for EX zenkais to have any use anymore.) Lets make old SPs be useful by letting them give 50 whole CC anr 5 slot removers!!! And the entire game for the most part is: Either play PVP or do the bare minimum (I.e. nothing at all.)
I don't need to mention how many episode campaigns suck. Bait characters and they're almost always just fronts for buffing tags that really matter (e.g. PO, Saiyan, Movies (that was the entire campaign too, btw.)
This wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the fact that there has been more LLs and Ultras and LL Zenkais this year than in any other year in Legends history. The tiny minute increases in cc provided (actually even DECREASING sometimes) means all the more, right now, the game rewards the people with the wherewithal to spend as compared to the f2p who relies on the greatest strokes of luck from Loshi.
Of course, let's not forget how the only change they wanted to make to PVP was so fundamentally trash they had to completely undo it, making a sum total of 0 improvements to PVP.
If there's any high points about Legends this year, it's that they've certainly gotten better at copying Xenoverse animations.
@@srizzyep1616 I disagree. The legends format for units that just dropped being good, has always been this way. The reason I said it's better now is because there is a decent variety of teams and yes the brand new units are gonna be utilised since they should naturally have better kits. I agree that a lot of legends tactics are scummy and I dislike them, but the meta this time around isn't as bad as it has been in certain years, such as back when fsk was good, or vb. I didn't have either of those units at the time and can vouch I had a worse pvp experience.
As for cc, it's really not that bad, yes you have to get lucky, but that's cuz it's a gacha game, if ur f2p ur gonna have to save cc for specific banners. Its just the way gacha games work.
Ex zenkais aren't really being released anymore, besides we get decent enough f2p units regardless, it's really just free cc.
When it comes to pvp I agree, they need to outright remove perfect vanish and make aggressive playstyles more profitable.
I also agree with the campaigns comment u made, but it's natural with so many tags being in the game, such as po and uni rep having such a large roster of characters.
Personally I'd say this year hasn't been bad, since the issues u stated have always been present, yes overall legends is getting fairly boring, but not this year especially.
@@neutralitykey I just hate how there’s nothing to do besides PVP. PVP gets boring after using the same characters. Im getting bored of using the same characters. I want to run androids but I can’t pull 17 or Cell and since I’m not a whale I can’t spend thousands of dollars on this game. Plus it’s not even “SAVE YOUR CC”. I did 1 rotation got the new beast twice but I did like 9 rotations on evokens banner for 17 specifically and I didn’t even get him 😂😂😂. Shits actually gatekeeping.
The real problem is we don’t have a LF cooler revisit yet 😔😔
(Please revisit)
You cannot silence the strongest in the universe for long, Goresh. His mere existence echoes throughout our galaxy
@JustinMedina-ro8du N o
@JustinMedina-ro8du I already got one buddy 🤣
@JustinMedina-ro8dustop saying this in every damn video it’s a long running joke we don’t care about why he still doesn’t do it
@JustinMedina-ro8duhe done damnnn Z TRUNKS SHOWCASE WHO NEED PLAT OR ZENKAI
So why can't cooler get his showcase
The biggest problem is we do not have 1 year after cooler showcase 🚩
I just don't understand why they separate the characters. Isn't making a banner more valuable make people want to summon on it more? Dokkan brings back important units on major banners so it makes it even more valuable to summon on them. I don't understand why legends doesn't do the same thing.
except they quite literally do exactly that. You are having selective bias because dokkan is not a pvp game and therefore getting an old major unit is less of an issue than it is in legends where a unit that came out a month ago can either be now Useless or still top tier
@@Coolmehamok ok talk yo shit🗣 we on statisticiantime
@Coolmeham No they don't? Dokkan puts valuable returning units on their major banners instead of putting them on a separate banner making the value of the banner go up and also gives the player a chance to try to get a valuable unit that they still don't have or the new unit. Legends could've easily put gofrieza and mvp 17 on the evoken banner but decided to instead put them on a completely separate banner with only returning characters. That instantly makes the player struggle to choose between trying to get the new unit or trying to get a returning unit that still has a lot of value. I'm not being biased lol I play Legends way more than dokkan I just think that legends should stop the way they bring back old lfs that are still really good. Adding more value to your major banners instantly makes players want to summon more. I have friends that literally skipped so many banners because they were waiting for gofrieza to return on legends fest. When they found out that they weren't in the either the evoken or transforming beasthan banner they were pretty upset but thought that they were gonna be on the part 2 banner instead. And then to only find out that their return is on a banner that doesn't have any of the new units instantly made them think if it was even worth trying to get gofrieza over the new units.
@@Nozohomiagain a gofrieza banner just came out that has a high chance of pulling them I swear y’all talk without thinking.
@IneedleopardLeopard You completely missed my point. I know that they just came back on a banner along with lf self destruct cell. What I'm saying is that they should've put them on the step up banners to make those banners more valuable. But since they were put on a completely different banner that forces the players to choose between summoning for the new units or summoning for a unit that they still don't have.
Dam trunks and vegeta really messed him up
if this isnt about the bardock banner format than i dont know whats worse
Getting only 30 RP per win after you reach BR 70 and then lose 45 the moment you lose
@@js2003sometimes it's Even worse You gain like 15 and lose 60
@@js2003 I dropped out of god rank from top 100 last season because of a massive losing streak (I crashed a lot at the start of season so regardless I wouldn't even get the rewards anyways)
@@IdekPhoenix Yeah, I had times in which my daily battle bonus didn’t even matter anymore because of the losing streak.
@@js2003it gets worse when you start facing perfectly built teams with 10+ stars characters and godly equips over and over and over
Even if you're really good at the game, if there's a decent star gap you won't tank enough and won't do enough damage to win
My biggest issue(s) is the passive play that needs to addressed, add a pity system on all banners and not just LF banners, and fix PV, one can only hope that they get it right next year.
Passive play has been addressed since like the moment they took away vanish restore on float. They just haven't rly found a good solution yet, there's probly some kind of technical problem to overcome.
Just counter passive play not that hard
@@cozy7765 that doesn't really solve the issue imo
@@masontoy1976 they should look into how to really put an end to it like a punishment for not moving
@@cozy7765Kinda hard when you have two ultras that counter strikes and blasts and get an ult for free.
Passive play is at it’s all time high right now.
Also the problem with taking sooo long to return characters is that they might age out by the time they return, they definitely wouldn't be as good as they released so people will miss out on the chance of using them at their best
The biggest problem is that you get disconnected everytime you try to play a pvp match
This year was the best overall year in legends, starting with the powerhouse reps celebration with 17 and hit, then we had incredible aniversery, tons of fun inbetween events including the buu saga, movies saga and even the dragonball saga celebrations, if we get a SSJ4 gogeta for the ultra to end off the year, I think we can say this will be a pretty amazing celebration to wrap everything up
The biggest problem for me at least is the non stop shifting meta, sever lag and ultra banners oh and rising rush
Don’t forget the constant pvs
Biggest problem in the game rn is more passive players and horrendous lag in matches, no matter what mode you go to, it’s always there.
The worst thing they ever did is remove the limited SP banner units pool and add 250 bajilion units that you always get and have 0 relation to the main unit you're summoning for, it's a pain for f2p and whales alike
I think the issue described in the video, combined with the fact that there’s still characters from year 1 of the game on new banners is the worst part of the game rn. It shouldn’t be the same chance for me to pull yellow kid gohan from day one as pulling yellow jiren from the last anniversary that’s actually insane.
You're right Goresh this is a huge problem, the power creep and constant demand to get the newest unit just to even play in the PVP gamemode is a MASSIVE issue not even counting for the RNG asset for it but for people who don't have really any expensive phones the game runs horribly, it's so laggy and sometimes it just closes itself out entirely, i think should also Optimize the game and i would love it if you shed some light about this in a future video to get the word out
Passive play is definitely up there imo, matches going down to the last 40 seconds because neither side will engage is painfully boring. Really doesn't help that you have units like gohan who will absolutely rob you if they PV even once due to vanish reduction
Don't let this video ( even if it's true) distract you from the fact that we are still waiting for a Cooler LF revisit.
The biggest problem in the game is that there hasn't been a new Sparking Krillin for years
I am still waiting for my SPARKING Rarity Final Form Frost 🗿🍷
i actually summoned on revival ui when he came back after 7 - 8 months and actually got him in my first summon
For really bro like, dude 2023 great year but with all new mechanics and not getting a new single best character at least one of the banner hurts me a lot in pvp. As a free to player Idk why I still played 2023 when I got shafted until New LL Namek Goku came into the game and haven't got anyone else until Legend Fest getting both Beast Gohan and tag Bardock & Goku. My 2023 experiences so far have been bad because of how strong characters are compared to 2022 characters. After getting two characters out 3 in Legend Fest I'm winning and that's telling you something and now I'm actually playing pro players in S rank. I have no skills issue just that characters are too meta in pvp.
Overall if you get shafted 2023 most of the year then GL pvping 2023 characters you won't have much fun until you get at least one of them.
I'd argue the game is at the worst it's ever been for F2P players because the devs have also taken the liberty of gating a lot of "free" crystals, characters and rewards behind having the new characters every single time one releases, making it practically impossible to meaningfully save beyond the daily missions. I don't feel like this pattern is talked about enough by the wider community. People who didn't pull for (or who got shafted on) Goku and Vegeta or Beast would have to spend 100 runs or more on each of those raids just to get the same rewards as someone who did pull them and only did 10-20. Or, in the case of Full Power Battle, the mode is effectively unbeatable if you don't get the new characters, shafting you out of thousands of Z Power for a "free" unit. This wouldn't be as big a problem if these CC-rewarding events (like Rising Battle with the Ultras and the Raids) came back, but they never do. Never in my time with mobile gaming have I came across a gacha that is as anti-F2P as Legends.
At least with Dokkan, if you're willing to invest the time, you can always meaningfully progress. Each new stage cleared feels like an achievement, and "battle bonuses" are only based on Categories, which are much more lax. With Legends, it feels impossible to progress, and the lack of any meaningful PVE for those not into PVP only makes things worse. The only thing it has going for it are its IP and aesthetics. If it wasn't a Dragon Ball game, I think it already would have shut down by now. It's a shame, because the core gameplay is actually pretty fun even against a bot.
If you're going to do a legitimate duplicate banner, they should at least increase the rates. Imagine going 50k cc to pull UL Super Gogeta only to get obliterated in PvP.
They just want money, and I know everyone wants money and end goal is that, but they have surpassed greed , which is bad. I mean they intentionally and learned that 2Ls and a W would make people neutral for game, So they intentionally introduce L even when it can be a W(example goku/bardock banner).So it is something I think people ignore because of hype. Ultra banner can be good, but they just want it to be bad.
You pointing out is great.After fest 2021 they have assumed that the formula of 2Ls and a W will make it good. You can just see they just keep are expectation in check, I mean we as a consumer have high expectation, but yeah it is what it is
The biggest problem is them pumping out characters rather than actual content…. Cause wtf. The entire fest and all we get is the weekly raid, some daily stages, and a couple zenkais? Yeah fuck that.
Ultra Banners are god awful
The Part 1 ( 1 or 2 LFS ) Part 2 ( 1 or 2 LFS ) then part 3 Ultra set up feels awful and makes player stress on what to summon on.
- Ex units are some odd bizarre " treasure " that feel impossible to pull for no reason.
- Finally please slow down on goku units and especially Tag Goku units.
They're probably never gonna slow down on goku units just because he's easy money, but I hope they change ultra banners they're so bad 😭
@@radiantdiscord2649 releasing goku units is one thing, but the way he's been mashed out since 5th anniversary is a little to much, like this legends fest part 1 and 2 are a tag goku unit while 5th anniversary had one too?
And yeaaaah .. they suck
I always joke with my friends about being unlucky in this game even though I've been playing since 2021 but I end up being disappointed at how annoying it is to not have an ULTRA and have an absurd disadvantage in pvp, I simply don't win any characters from the banners that launch and I always spend everything and I'm left with nothing because they don't give so many crystals, what I have left are secondary characters and some zenkais...
If they could just make the summoning system exactly like dokkans. They will be great
You prefere no guarentee to get anything whatsoever over pitty coins?
@@halftimebeing6401 What guarantee lmao?
with no skip button and sit through all green skies? yeah right..
@@halftimebeing6401what? In dokkan system you are guaranteed the unit later. Legends you CAN guarantee it in the first banner but most f2p will not actually hit enough summons to guarantee a unit from my understanding due to cc cap.
@@LegendaryGoku22 the pitty coins are some form of a guarantee to get the new unit, sure it is very bad but dokkan has none
Bro legends RRRAAPPED!! Raiyuden in that goku/bardock banner.
I might be crazy but the worst thing about this game by far is the constant need of zeni. Brother, what the hell. I went like 10 bill in 10 minutes and it's not that easy to gather it. Takes a lot of damn stamina.
and arts boost being RNG... why when they already take a lot of resources? like 3 and half million zeni for arts boost from 70 to 99, too much thing in this game cost zeni and too much zeni
Took a break from legends after ultra super vegito and came back after T.O.P 17 release ever since I'm not able to settle myself into the meta (lack of new units)being a f2p because of the same issue discussed in the video. Basically their summon system is not able to keep up with the powercreep I would say.
I want to play legends so badly but the summoning is just so atrocious. Dokkan has given me a taste of what banners should be like and when I try any other gacha game I just hate it.
Another problem I like to point out is everytime you play PVP against someone it's so laggy and even when you press on a card to attack the game doesn't register your command which I find so frustrating at times hence why I lose alot! I don't mind losing but when it's unfair because of game issues or laggy then I get annoyed about losing the match because of these reasons!
I agree with the summoning issue too mentioned in your video.
Cover null and perfect vanish, man the cover changes are so cool 😂.
Equipment rolling 😢😢
Nah definitely not this
awakening, clicking one by one drives me nuts, not going to roll a good awakening till they allow us to awaken multiple at once
I honestly think a big problem is the rising rush system. It’s not about it being like damaging or crazy but the rate that you get dragon balls is wild to me, you can be hit with only 5 cards and get rushed immediately. I think the issue here is that the rates of getting dragon balls is way too high and that if it’s fixed, the pvp would be a lot better. Only cause you fight against units that can force more cards to be drawn out and force a rising rush to pop up.
Yeah, a frequent thought playing this game is “Damn, I don’t really have a lot of characters” I wanna play different teams but I’m stuck playing the same ones due to things like zenkai limbo and meta vs non meta
Thank you Goresh for pointing this out. I’ve been saying for a while this is a major issue. Especially during major celebrations. If Dokkan did this players would be pissed, and for some reason many legends players don’t care. I feel like devs will continue to do this. It is unbelievable summoning and pulling old, horrible LF units.
Maybe it's not a big problem, but I would like to see the cc limit increased to around 30/35 thousand. and up to about 50/70 thousand if you don't have the Legends Pass (they can throw away the tickets because they are useless).
Next thing is more LBR tickets... double the amount and it would be good, even with these ridiculous opening hours.
Another issue concerns Raids. I've been playing for over 1600 days and I still can't get the 100% bonus without new characters. I know they want us to buy cc and summon new characters, but the 100% bonus should always be there, the only thing new characters should do is increase the amount of that bonus. The items in the raid trade shop are so expensive that you have to retrace them thousands of times to clear the shop. Even if you're a hardcore gamer, it's almost impossible without new characters (and being shafted is not unheard of these days).
Mega bonanza is shit. If you want to roll over platinum, you need to prepare thousands of erasers and trillions of credits.
The final step of Hoi-Poi is simply a scam. During the 5th anniversary I used over 20,000. coins on last step and didn't drop a single 600 Z power for LL. So I just didn't bother with hoipoi at Legends Festifal this year. It's not worth it.
And i agree with not bringing back characters more often on baners with now characters.
When it comes to pvp, maybe they should introduce ki loss if you don't perform an action for at least 5 - 8 counts. This could also result in a penalty in the form of not counting the combo for the first two cards after a long break without attacking or any action.
If the combo is too long, maybe they should finally stop designing characters that can use 10-20 cards at a time. After 5-6 cards, combo compensation should increase enough to make the damage dealt almost zero, or the cost of the cards should increase.
Alternatively, the opponent should be able to interrupt the combo with a special skill that could charge. This could be a new mechanic where, after charging the bar, the player is able to perform an absolute cover change without losing the cover change charge on the character who performs it. Of course, this special cover change could be combined immediately with subsequent cards.
The idea of a quick attack with the possibility of combos is good. Maybe they would introduce something like Fast Blast. In a similar way, when you are at a distance and quickly slide to the side, you end up doing a tap. This causes a side step feint combined with a blast similar to co-op, where 3 bullets fly at once. They would be faster than normal, of course, and almost unavoidable.
Would be cool to get some gt representation because it's been over a year now since we got gt representation.
The biggest problem is talking about problems and not solutions and I believe creators like goresh are far out of touch in this regard based on him playing mostly from a perspective of having maxed out units
The average player issues are not highlighted very well
This is another prove why the game is being more for p2w, f2p never can handle with that horrible summoning system
Yeah my biggest issue is how bad the rates are for new EX units.. like.. the vast majority are going to get shafted... atleast give us a good chance to get SOMETHING
It’s the lag for me.
Stop matching me against people across the planet
Yes Istg I fight people who have the worst lag ever
they think playing in the Sahara desert is a good idea
Onb 😹🙏🏽
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The incredibly predatory practices they do for resource consumption and summoning honestly drove me off the game shortly after trying it. It takes an unholy amount of like 4 different currencies to reroll equipment for what seems like forever, can't say how fed upI was when I pissed away the 1,000th slot remover for a worse equip than I started with.
How do you have a shortage of slot removers? I have like 400 sitting in my gift box. Zeni is super easy to get and just play the game and you get the other currencies.
@@moneymike226 Zeni is easy to get but you do know that upgrade costs is bs
Goresh actively avoiding a LF Cooler revisit video is genuinely funny
The biggest problem is no SDBH units after 5.5 years into the game. Unacceptable and way more of an issue than anything fundamental or mechanical
Another thing I'll point out about the Revival UI return is they made the banner significantly worse for people who actually wanted to run him
On his original run, he came with both new ex units and also LF units who could be run with him, such as Evo, Jiren and Mui, and some zenkai buffers for him like SSJ3 Goku. This meant the banner was okay for putting together a team with him
The rerun replaced all of the useful units. Evo, Mui and Jiren were swapped out for future gohan, kid buu and broly who aren't even team relevant to him, and he lost the zenkai buffers on his initial banner replaced by meh zenkai LF's. They also straight up removed the ex units.
They literally just brought back his banner, made it substantially worse and forced people to use that to acquire him.
I used to who’d give up on old banners because “I’ll get the unit eventually”
Nowadays, if I don’t get the LL or Ultra, I’m probably not going to see that unit in my box in forever.
I think it took me 10 months later to receive LL Cooler after his initial release. I can’t imagine where and when Go/Bardock will be placed eventually
I feel like they need to look at the teams units they release and add more units even if they were ex. And add banners where they add units from teams that need help. For a a few gacha games i play a lot of units go to the general pool so I feel like they should add alot more units to the general pool and stop trying to hold back units just so they can be on a banner where there’s probably no reason to waste chrono crystals for them by chasing them
My issue is just banners for sure at this point. If the headliner is the ONLY thing new in banner, it should be a 2% chance to pull, or banners meant to rerun a bunch of Lfs should be 2% considering how bad the unit lineup is. Ridiculous. I am still going, 15 months now, without a single lf pulled from a banners let alone a new unit. Again. The most recent lf I have is lf cooler, and that’s when his banner was out. And yes I double checked. I couldn’t even pull the ginyu force after 22k cc worth of rotations.
I think the ONLY new sparking i got was the ssj Gohan from last cell banner.
And I can’t even use him.
It’s bogus.
Like cmon. Throw me a bone.
It’s ridiculous.
Agreed that 2023 has been a big dub for DBL. new mechanics and updating old units too. My android 16, ult vegito blue squad is somehow viable and i think thats amazing.
Balanced pvp since earlier years too. W to the team and your review of our game
Problem for me is people can drop 200 bucks or and not pull the featured unit, causing the in game play and PVP more difficult for some most of all annoying 😡
They could also remove some of those ancient units from banner as well. We have a ton of ways of getting them anyway.
I struggled to get Sparking Mecha Freeza for months because they took forever to put him as a filler character, and when they did, there was a ton of older units messing up with the summoning percentages. By the time I managed to get him, he was not even good enough for a bench unit.
Heck, they could update those ticket banners since those are also jurassic in terms of featured units. Have new players summoning on those for older units.
Keep the newer banners limited to some somewhat newer units. If they're older than 3 years, they shouldn't be appearing as filler units.
Easily perfect vanish imo
I’ve been so confused as to why this mechanic exists since the beginning of this game when I started playing.
This game’s PvP could move in an ENTIRELY new direction if they didn’t had such a strong offensive and defensive mechanic
Edit: also you not revisiting LF cooler 👀
nothing loses me a game more than watching the other player get a perfect vanish because i wanted to play aggressive. it's so stupid, but i get why people play so passively lmao
Having pv is a good thing as much as it is a bad thing, Imagine not having pv and now youre forced to lose 3 vanishes and immediately get RRd because you can no longer pv. People beg for these changes and then when they realize it was necessary in the game they whine about the change.
@@Coolmehamlosing 3 vanishes from constantly switching sounds more like a passive player problem ngl, I have no problem catching people on sidesteps or taps after I use my vanish
@@Coolmeham that’s what people deserve for playing too passive. In fact that’s a very welcoming change since there are multiple ways to counteract that style but people don’t attack because of the fear of pv
Yeah, the banners are a big problem. This goku and bardock being the most egregious currently but even the pikkon banner was absolutely terrible. I usually put a little cc into most banners unless its something I really want but that banner was so bad I couldn't see a reason to summon. This "Legends rising" , mega rising and ultra banners need an upgrade. The step up lf banners should be the standard honestly.
The thing is that they want to make us spend cc, so theyre saying basically: if you dont summon now, youre not getting this character any soon! So we cant save cc for the major celebrations
Another huge problem is that rising rush is intended to be a comeback mechanic but it’s really just a win mechanic. If you’re losing in pvp and you get rushed GG
I think rising rush should be locked until a certain amount of timer counts/ until your at your last unit or second to last unit.
@@kiwi_the_kiwikiwi6366 I completely agree, sometimes people get their rushes against me 10 timer counts after they combo me and me trying to disperse damage between units will get rushed and not guess them. There was one game that me and my opponent were on our last characters and I was hitting him with a combo and had not previously gotten my rush, long story short my combo ended and I was missing one db for my rush and never got it causing me to lose the game (I had no vanish as I perfect vanished him to start the combo)
Another thing to bring up is dokkan brings back strong characters on almost every banner.
When characters eza, they drop the legendary summon which is bad for most players stones wise but for me on here I’m literally saving Z power to make 4* ape vegeta 7*… it would be Wayyy better if they had that banner format with like a 5% chance at the zenkai unit then having to wait on the limit break banner. That only gives 1000 z power while one copy is more on most formats.
You do not for whatever reason get the side banner unit you want no matter the banner. I spent over 40k cc on tag 4s and got zero Yellow 4ku copies (Yes)
Don't forget that's there's always a chance to get the unit in dokkan when they return with the coins you save. I genuinely dislike the fact we don't get zenkai banners with the main unit being zenkai cause it just forces you to hope that they're on a main banner like with bardock or ape Vegeta, even then you're most likely not gonna pull the unit you want to zenkai it's either some character you could use/can't use or the new characters they release fir said banner
@@Deathclaw7 That’s a fact. My power level is only 120k on dokkan, and I’ve played enough to buy Ma Jr and 23rd wt goku with coins ( I wasn’t playing during that ww). 400 df coins is like what 2,000 stones?
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Like in my case I made Ape 1400, have the free 600, so I CAN do the limit break next month but im tryna get Gogeta! (Or if it’s like mui), I could totally keep summoning on Evo kaioken , but I already got 2 copies and golden Friezas red 5. I was in the same spot had GT 17 14 stars two times over (pulled him 15 times) and tag 4s at 7*. If they had the legendary summon type banner, I could have stopped and easily got a 4ku copy and Z powered him. Not doing that again
@@coopdothemostI think it might be 2k but thats also not counting units you may have rainbowed and can exchange the dupe and I hate how they don't even have a banner for zenkais all they have is just the awakening z power and thats it , how am i supposed to zenkai a unit like lf bardock or 4ku both of whom i have at three stars cause I can't for the life of me pull them and I like those units I can't even use them do to how bad they are post zenkai i had to use my 600lf z power on great ape Vegeta since all i needed was 600 to be able to zenkai him
They need to just make old Ultra banners permanently available. People should be able to summon for UL Super Gogeta, UL Super Vegito, and UL SSBKK Goku whenever they want. Eventually throw Broly into the mix. If they’re really feeling generous, they could package some of the older Ultras together like putting Super Gogeta and Super Vegito on the same permanent banner. I’d prefer this to having old Ultras on new Ultra banners because of how hard it is to just get the new Ultra. If I see the Ultra orb pop up on screen when I’m summoning for UL SS4 Gogeta and it turns out that I pulled UL Super Gogeta, I’m going to go outside and start punching trees until my hands break.
I’m just shocked that both Dokkan and Legends are fine with having these years-old animations still at this point and when they do something like add the dimension shatter to the Broly summon animation they expect us to be blown away. Like no DO BETTER these games make millions of dollars how can you not keep summon animations fresh.
Another big thing I think they should change with summoning, is the pull rate for new EX units. It makes absolutely zero sense that they have lower rates than even Ultra characters. They arent even that good most of the time. Even new sparkings have at least 1% rates, so you would think a lower rarity EX character would have like 2% or at least 1.5% rates. That or just dont even bother with new EX characters anymore. Just make them 1% sparkings.
My biggest problem in the game. Is pvp not balanced well. And before you say is because i suck well let me say not exactly the point. Back then i used pvp as a chance to get more cc's to grind more if i stay in the 9000 to 4000 rank just for more cc grinding. And the problem is you get constant battles were you lose everytime for example i lost 10 matches even if i had most of the best units in the game and not get a win. Well you get a win once but then you lose constantly again... for me it happened to me after a whole progress for me to get to 5000 rank and then stop. But then i got back to 18000 rank... thanks to all the lossing battles even after no matter how much skill i had. I still lost the battle...
I quit PVP grinding after that if it kept happening... its like you almost have no fun on pvp anymore if youre only there for CC grinding. Made me rage and scream alot of the time that it was not good for me and it shows how bad pvp is right now.
Dont know about the others but just saying in my experience
i feel like its also tied into the fact that they dont dish out that much cc anymore so f2p dont really have cc to spend on these banners so it is kind of understandable.
I haven't seen too many people say lag these days, j know that is still a problem here and there hut nothing like it used to be. Im glad they've improved a lot there. But making scummy business decisions isn't going to stop so all in all I'd have to agree with goresh that this is their best year yet
Biggest problem in the game is Legends devs not implementing a system where you can get certain Legend Limited characters after a certain amount of time guaranteed with tickets you get from summons (Like Dokkan's coin system).......oh wait my fault they do have a system like that. The Legends Ticket exchange shop, but they just never fucking update it at all!!! There's legit no type of underlying motivation to look forward to like Dokkan when you get shafted on a banner. You legit have to wait for the unit's banner to come back and for most F2P characters they still cant get those units probably. Definitely Ultra units. Summoning for Ultra units seems like a waste to summon for as a F2P player.
A complementary element of the summon system I actually DEPISE, is the Legends Ticket system.
Compared to the coin system in Dokkan it’s a joke,
Absolutely abysmal🤦🏽♂️
TRIPLE RATES…
More banners like this please
The summon problem really shines when you pump a ton of cc into the banner and don’t pull a copy of the new character and now have to deal with the realization that you will pretty much never be able to use the character for at minimum 6 months
From watching the videos, watching how passive a lot of opponents play (and sometimes even you) makes it so tedious to watch/play. A lot of people won’t attack due to the fear of being PV’d or rushed. I love the slower dragon ball gather rate but man does the passive play piss me off.
I think that the last great banner was the Gofrieza banner, 3 very good sparkings (one of them was Jiren), the best unit in the game at that point and also the best LF zenkai (UI Goku), you can make a whole team with that banner
I wish they would add more original series events for some more cc. I also wish they could add a boss rush equivalent event to the game that gives good rewards. They should also take away the stupid drop chance % from raids too.
The BIGGEST problem is some of us aka ME GETTING FUCKIN PERMA BAN BECAUSE THE GAME HAS SHITTY SERVERS SOO I GET ACCUSED OF "CHEATING" and no im not restarting
This is why for YEARS I’ve never listened to content creators who say skip a banner during a major celebration. Idc if an OP ultra is coming. They’re NEVER bringing back these characters on banners.
I think the biggest problem is that whether you're F2P or not you cannot earn your weekly amount of chrono crystals simple by missing one of the daily mission completions.
Atleast in the past we received a consistent amount of rewards for that day based on that day's completion.
Now they gatekeep the chrono crystals at day 6 and 7 so if you miss day 4 or 5 you have to start over with nothing to show for it.
Due to this issue you can easily stay stuck at low to no chrono crystals, and as a result you aren't eager to do your daily missions anymore because it's the opposite of a rewarding experience.
The biggest problem is we are 5 plus years into the game and we still don't have an iteration of Garlic Jr.
For me it's all the other content in the game which is pretty much non-existent. Co-op is pure garbage, Top is there, story mode is there, and the beginning events are good for beginners but once your done with them they're just nothing. I just wish they'd implement fixes to co-op and more content for us to enjoy over a longer period.
this ABSOLUTELY is the biggest problem with this game, along with the 20k cap on f2p crystals
My favorite aspect of the game is spending 30k chrono after recently coming back to see exactly why I left. Literally get the oldest and most useless cards that can’t compete with the meta
But yeah, he is not wrong with the summoning system. I made a short on when the return of Gamma 1 & 2, I feel that I needed to make a short to advise ppl not to summon, when legends fest was like 3-4 days away.
The predictability of a units impact is hurting how much I spend / play the game. Here’s recent examples
Ginyu force, didn’t summon cuz u have to get all 3.
Namek goku, is a direct counter to vegito , he might as well be Ssj Cooler
PTP Goku , 8er and roshi were filler characters and I knew dragon balls would get nerfed because of vegito
Jr and goku : can’t lie I summoned way too big of a dbz/ db (early on) piccolo fan
Janemba : he is an ultra countering the previous best ultra, the drop a character that’s red that’s still better than him, just like Gogeta blue and Goku frieza post buff compared to Buu. I didn’t summon because I didn’t see vegito go away like Gogeta did
In which evo kaioken and gohan are way better than all those units besides janemba who’s up there with them. It does “benefit” me but why would i spend money if I don’t see the point in most banners (note cell is too strong I summoned for him I think everyone should’ve)
In my opinion i would say that legends have to do something with the passive playstyle everyone just plays for PV and its annoying that the passive players are rewarded for playing such way
18:42 That part killed me 🤣
it’s really sad to see legends trying to rake money through the coals by returning units on banners with no new units, but it’s nothing new. legends has always been greedy, and that will never change, sadly.
The Biggest Problem Is Let Raiyuden Showcase Heartku Bro Is Cooking The Whole Legends With Heartku
I feel like adding the old ultra’s , would take away the frustration of getting shaft if it’s at least a unit you don’t have even tho they aren’t the new one, as a new players since UVB, I have kinda bad support, or not high enough, and the equip are so are to roll for, I’ve done like 100 times only for one 3-4 times already, I feel like i had to start from the start to even compete against people in PvP
My biggest problem is ultra banners.. if i dont pull the ultra on the first release im never going back to summon for them later. So i will never get them. Especially with the terrible drop rates
ah yes, the true villain of dragon ball legends. ultra corporate greed
You cant hide forever from revisiting Lf final form cooler
2:35 look at all his coins! Damn 😂😂😂😂
Good points made like usually. :)
We need a survey to complain about the new banner format ASAP!
Ive been wanting a equip like the friendship equips for zeni. If they not gonna make the cost cheaper then let us just get zeni easier. It cost so much energy even on weekends
The real biggest problem is not a lf cooler revisit, it’s no heartku updates…
One thing i wish is for them to stop shafting me, then only lf i have pulled which was good was lf dragon fist, and that was during 4th anniversary
Ive seen games ending in a car crash, luckily Legends doesn't seem like that.
Revisit Lf Cooler, maybe the problem will disappear :b
@JustinMedina-ro8du That's why i'm saying this, if he revisits LF Cooler, all the problems the game has will vanish :)
The biggest issue is that after 10k on the beast and evoken banners I’ve pulled nothing but the 1% spankings.
Same, I've don't 3 rotations on both and all I got was Gotenks once and Frieza twice
The summoning system for this game is one of the worst gacha systems i have seen compared to any other game in existence .