Everything’s better with 800V! I upgraded my iPhone to 800V and now it’s much better at starting fires. I was so pleased with the experience that I upgraded my pacemaker to 800V and dndjakkakoa-
1:04 maybe they refurbish the V3 for the newer EV-markets, where 800V plays even less of a role. 1:28 Variable power distribution across multiple "dispensers" is technically the cleanest solution - saves costs, can be upgraded, is customer-friendly.
V4 sux today, cable falls out and the handle is always damaged. Cable and handle/plug are so bulky and heavy. No fun to use. V3 has a light handle and slim cable
True and it also improves the usecase for long distance BEV travel and electric trucking. For trucking it is really important because trucks + drivers that are parked for charging are NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. Thats why trucks need very fast charging infrastructure.
The Audi Boss recently said in an interview that he thinks it is a mistake that we only have 350 kW on our charging stations, because soon the vehicles will exceed these 350 kW. I am kind of excited for the future in general.😊 : quote"In a year or two, we will have overtaken the charging power on the vehicle side."
Roughly 2 out of 3 times I get an error with handshake when I use into charge my Taycan. And also their chargers take forever before they start charging. Tesla superchargers on the other hand just works perfectly every time 😊
Those green substations from Møretrafo are modular. You can see on the outside how many transformers they contain. Some sections of them have ventilation grills and behind those there is space for one 1250kVA transformer. I've seen at some big sites that these have space for 4 transformers. These are fed from the local 22kV distribution grid and are owned by the CPO. Reason for that is they need at least 480V out from the transformer on the secondary which the regular grid operators don't use. I guess 480V is normal input for the rectifier hardware used for EV charging for some reason. Anyone know why? Most of the world already have 400V to peoples homes so why not use that? I'm guessing it's because 480V is the industrial supply voltage in the US?
I'm skeptical about 800V supercharging arriving to Europe. Tesla doesn't sell Cybertruck in Europe which is the only Tesla vehicle that would benefit. It doesn't seem like good PR for Tesla that their customers start seeing a Hyundai/ kia which cost less than a Model S/X suddenly charging way faster than Teslas at their own Tesla supercharger service, they might be tempted to switch sides.
I'm still wondering why the V3 stall always have had 1000V rating since they rolled it out back in the days. On the inner side of each V3 stall it says 1000V even if the power cabinets are only ~400V ish. I always though they will change the cabinets even for V3 some time. Now they are switching to V4 Stalls but V3 cabinets. Totally strange for me 🙄
I've heard mr musk had laid off all of the super charger team in Tesla, so they're practically in maintenance mode now. Not sure if that's fake news or the reality, but if it is the reality, then it's a sad one (and it conflicts what you said in this video somehow)
I was also confused about that news, since they still expanding and upgrading the system I guess it was classic Media.. Maybe one higher person was fired and blew it up as "EVERYONE"
If you heard V5, it was probably some clickbait page or channel that just makes shit up for clicks. Semi uses the same V4 cabinets, except it just feeds one stall, not eight.
What's the point if Teslas can't keep up with the charging speed. Model 3 and Y are supposed to charge up to 250 kW - but that doesn't matter if they stay only stay on that level for a few minutes. Tesla is lagging behind when it comes to charging speed - even compared to other 400V systems
The point is future-proof and other ev makers that can take advantage of it. How can you complain? Tesla is ensuring the limiting factor is not the charger. Also you can now share stall and not get penalized as much, right?
The upcoming MCS standard enables a charging current of 1,250 volts and 3,000 amperes (maximum power of 3.75 megawatts). Currently, there are MCS charging devices with a power output of 1.2 megawatts and a current of 1500 amperes.
@@t.d.5804 This must not mean that Model Y Juniper will stay by the same batteries. There are more than two years between the refresh of 3 and Y. the will change the battery , they have to do something (800V or 400V, nobody knows).
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The coast to coast race from Out of Spec showed, 800V is only useful for cars, with high consuption. ioniq6 and model3 showed it. with low consumption 400v is faster, than the 800v ioniq6 with much higher consumption. So, if carmakers design their cars more efficient, you can stay at 400v. If you wanne pull often a trailer, 800v can make a advantage. And the taycan showed, 800v AND a very good cooling while charging is the best of both. But I would say, for the average driver, 400v and a very good cooling while charging would be more than enough and cheaper.
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I prefer a flatter charging curve over peak values
Battery chemistry and useful longevity disagrees ^^
Physics will physics
Everything’s better with 800V! I upgraded my iPhone to 800V and now it’s much better at starting fires. I was so pleased with the experience that I upgraded my pacemaker to 800V and dndjakkakoa-
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Sexlife too, i guess.
1:04 maybe they refurbish the V3 for the newer EV-markets, where 800V plays even less of a role.
1:28 Variable power distribution across multiple "dispensers" is technically the cleanest solution - saves costs, can be upgraded, is customer-friendly.
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V4 sux today, cable falls out and the handle is always damaged. Cable and handle/plug are so bulky and heavy. No fun to use. V3 has a light handle and slim cable
Agree, feels less solid/premium than V3 for sure
Higher charging speeds = higher throughput of EVs = more profit per charger!
True and it also improves the usecase for long distance BEV travel and electric trucking.
For trucking it is really important because trucks + drivers that are parked for charging are NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. Thats why trucks need very fast charging infrastructure.
Talking of 800 V, can someone please lend Bjørn a refreshed Taycan, big battery, RWD, aero wheels for the 1000 km challenge? 🙏
It would set the record for sure (unless very bad wether conditions)
The Audi Boss recently said in an interview that he thinks it is a mistake that we only have 350 kW on our charging stations, because soon the vehicles will exceed these 350 kW. I am kind of excited for the future in general.😊 : quote"In a year or two, we will have overtaken the charging power on the vehicle side."
Some Chinese vehicles already charge at over 400kW. 11 Minutes 10-80% ... We're getting close to gas car refueling. ;)
Roughly 2 out of 3 times I get an error with handshake when I use into charge my Taycan. And also their chargers take forever before they start charging.
Tesla superchargers on the other hand just works perfectly every time 😊
500, 1200 KW is a welcome change!
Can't wait to reach 10 seconds of 500kw only for it to drop to 200kw from 20% to 30% and 100kw from 30% to 80%
Those green substations from Møretrafo are modular. You can see on the outside how many transformers they contain. Some sections of them have ventilation grills and behind those there is space for one 1250kVA transformer. I've seen at some big sites that these have space for 4 transformers.
These are fed from the local 22kV distribution grid and are owned by the CPO. Reason for that is they need at least 480V out from the transformer on the secondary which the regular grid operators don't use.
I guess 480V is normal input for the rectifier hardware used for EV charging for some reason. Anyone know why? Most of the world already have 400V to peoples homes so why not use that? I'm guessing it's because 480V is the industrial supply voltage in the US?
What about the 2025 model Teslas? Will they have 800v architecture at least? Or will continue by 400v?
Can we beat the fossils on the top of Google sheet 1000km challenge.
Wouldn't be surprising, given the small tank that the serial hybrids have.
Simultaneous high power DC charging almost never occurs NOW. Just wait until 1/2 the passenger cars are EVs.
😬Portugal with mostly v2😬
I'm skeptical about 800V supercharging arriving to Europe. Tesla doesn't sell Cybertruck in Europe which is the only Tesla vehicle that would benefit. It doesn't seem like good PR for Tesla that their customers start seeing a Hyundai/ kia which cost less than a Model S/X suddenly charging way faster than Teslas at their own Tesla supercharger service, they might be tempted to switch sides.
500 KW is No game changer. No car is able to take 500KW now and in the forseenable future. So there is no game, let alone it can change.
I'm still wondering why the V3 stall always have had 1000V rating since they rolled it out back in the days. On the inner side of each V3 stall it says 1000V even if the power cabinets are only ~400V ish.
I always though they will change the cabinets even for V3 some time. Now they are switching to V4 Stalls but V3 cabinets. Totally strange for me 🙄
The initial plan for roadster was 2020 maybe they thought about upgrading v3 cabinets to 1000V back then :D
@kenion2166 Ahh good Idea, maybe you are right.
maybe the isolation can handle 1000V
How is it a gamechanger when most existing Tesla's won't accept any charge at that level
Tesla has to look forward, most new cars are all 800v, Tesla needs to account for that.
It's open for all cars.
I've heard mr musk had laid off all of the super charger team in Tesla, so they're practically in maintenance mode now. Not sure if that's fake news or the reality, but if it is the reality, then it's a sad one (and it conflicts what you said in this video somehow)
I was also confused about that news, since they still expanding and upgrading the system I guess it was classic Media.. Maybe one higher person was fired and blew it up as "EVERYONE"
AFAIK it was a kind of brutal renegotiating strategy, cause most of them were reemployed soon but with new and maybe worse contracts
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Great video, i heard there is a V5 ? stack for the semi coming, 1MW , but i guess thats for semi only ?
1,2MW according to the video from Tesla
If you heard V5, it was probably some clickbait page or channel that just makes shit up for clicks. Semi uses the same V4 cabinets, except it just feeds one stall, not eight.
great as always
Always Be Calculating 😀
What's the point if Teslas can't keep up with the charging speed. Model 3 and Y are supposed to charge up to 250 kW - but that doesn't matter if they stay only stay on that level for a few minutes. Tesla is lagging behind when it comes to charging speed - even compared to other 400V systems
But Thier battery will last, Tesla has the most battery data than any other EV company, they know what they are doing.
The Magic word is Efficiency, show me any faster charging vehicle in < 0 Temperatures which has better or same Efficiency as a Tesla
The point is future-proof and other ev makers that can take advantage of it. How can you complain? Tesla is ensuring the limiting factor is not the charger. Also you can now share stall and not get penalized as much, right?
2:38 : Bjørn Nyland: " from 400 to 1000V"
Wrong, it delivers from 200 to 1000V, unless Bjørn wants to claim that Tesla is breaking the standard..
I read somewhere that it was 400-1000 V.
Trucks at 2C can charge at over 700kW, they need at least 1kV.
The upcoming MCS standard enables a charging current of 1,250 volts and 3,000 amperes (maximum power of 3.75 megawatts). Currently, there are MCS charging devices with a power output of 1.2 megawatts and a current of 1500 amperes.
Can we suppose that the Model Y Juniper will have a 800v architecture ?
No, same batteries will be used in the M3H too, so its still 400V
@@t.d.5804 This must not mean that Model Y Juniper will stay by the same batteries. There are more than two years between the refresh of 3 and Y. the will change the battery , they have to do something (800V or 400V, nobody knows).
@@wolf-dieterschulz-engelke8598 Tesla hat den BYD blade im MY verbaut, der ist schon genial und entwertet den alten CATL. Die 2024er CATL&BYD neuen LFPs können weitaus mehr.Die werden im Y&3 kommen. Das M3H mit dem alten CATL ist ein no go
It's probably too soon. These cabinets will take years to roll out beyond new stations.
Good that Elon fired the leadership of the charger team.
i kind of feel the new V4 is putting a lot of mechanical stress on tesla charge port compared to v3. what do you think?
More stress on the battery pack? Always wonder how this will affect the life span of the pack.
Is there a way to identify v4 sites in the Tesla app or another way to find them?
Who buys teslas in 2024?
?, he is showing a CCS charging station... Tesla is the charge point operator.
Anyone can charge, with the exception of CHAdeMO cars.
About 1.3m people in the first 9 months, apparently.
The coast to coast race from Out of Spec showed, 800V is only useful for cars, with high consuption. ioniq6 and model3 showed it. with low consumption 400v is faster, than the 800v ioniq6 with much higher consumption. So, if carmakers design their cars more efficient, you can stay at 400v. If you wanne pull often a trailer, 800v can make a advantage. And the taycan showed, 800v AND a very good cooling while charging is the best of both. But I would say, for the average driver, 400v and a very good cooling while charging would be more than enough and cheaper.
Too bad that tesla has too poor quality, almost as bad as Musk himself. But the Tesla chargers are actually good
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