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I will always be a Portuguese first and foremost. My culture and language are, indeniably, something that will will always define me. But I'm also an European who believes in unity, comprehension, democracy and freedom. Together, we are stronger and safer, despite what some may say, and I love my European brothers (yes, even the Spanish...) 🇵🇹❤🇪🇺
Yes, exactly, we are all nations of their own, language, culture and so on, but at the end of the day, we are also one eu. It feels like different regions of one country. We are different at times, but in the end, we are one.
Of course the Spaniards 🤣🤣
democracy and freedom. so you must hate the EU cause it has neither
Haha, we Dutchies love you too. I think you are right, as a Dutch person, i feel Dutch first, but iam also European. We all have a common past and future, in the good and bad way.
@@eduardomarin2783Haha, Yeah.. we had a 80 year war with the Spaniards. Lets not do that again 😆
As a Czech, I still remember the border checks when I went on holiday to Italy with my parents as a child. Since then, the only check I can recall was when we traveled to Serbia, which is not part of the Schengen area. That feeling when the police stop you, go through your documents, inspect your car, and you don't even speak their language is strange.
not so much socialist as part of the Russian empire
The last time I was checked on a border (other than when entering the US and Israel) was when I was on the train between Brno and Vienna, because back then the Czech Republic was not yet a part of the EU.
(OK, I was "checked" in the UK, on transit to Poland, but I was basically let through upon showing my Portuguese ID card, because back then the UK was in the EU, though not in Schengen.)
I accualy can speak the languague and I still get the same crap when they see my Dutch licence plate but when I answer in their own languague they are just so suprissed that they just let me go through...
I grew up in Bulgaria in a time when the borders were closed for us. My house is 5 km from the border with Greece. Every time I looked out the window I could see the peaks of the Greek mountains. Yet they were as remote as the moon. Nobody even imagined about going there the same way nobody imagines going to the moon. Now I can go anywhere I want without checking with anybody. It's amazing. But many Europeans don't know a time like that and therefore take their freedom for granted. I wish those times never return to Europe
in our geography class in school we had a map of europe that would progressively during my school time get corrections written on it with a big red permanent marker.. crossing out USSR crossing out DDR and GDR replacing it with germany.. crossing out czechoslovakia and replacing it with those as well.. the only one that wasnt done anything about was yugoslavia because that was just a huge mess that noone knew what was going to happen with at the time.. i also do remember manned border posts on the danish german border with passport control.. and annoyingly i still have to bring a passport because denmark doesnt have any valid id cards for use in europe (and no drivers licence is not a valid id card)
От Петрич ли си? 😅
@@grigorov1914 От родопско село от Гоце Делчевско 😎
@@grigorov1914 от родопско село, неврокопски район 😎
Freedom of movement is more than just traveling. You can live in another country without any formalities, find a job there, buy a house, go to university. You do not need a passport, visa or consent from local authorities. You can live in another country just like in your own country.
Mostly correct. You do need to notify authorities where you'll be living.
I recently went through it while moving from The Netherlands to Poland.
Although that was very simple and only took a few minutes.
You need a Passport or ID-card, though there is no Passport control on the border. But if an authority like police asks for a passport you must to have one to show.
@@mikkorenvall428 If you are a citizen of this country and the police want to check your identity, it's the same... You have to show your ID.
😉
As a rule, an ID card is a document used in a given country. A passport is used when traveling outside the country.
Freedom of movement allows you to travel abroad without a passport. Of course, you can bring your passport, but you don't have to. All you need is an ID card as if you were in your home country.
Not only do you not need consent from local authorities, you can also vote at the local and EU level from where you live, while retaining your vote for your country of origin's parliament.
@@leszekk.73 Looking at his name I assume he meant that over here the driver license is enough, even a pictured social security card or even a student card if they just want to know who you are(they can also hear how well you speak the local languages so that's they do trust your student card if you don't look or sound foreign). So I think he meant that when you go to lets say Germany you need a EU valid ID while in your own country or any of the Nordic countries we can use any ID card, they don't always like it but they did accept my student card in Sweden while if I go to Estonia they would give me a fine for not having a EU legit ID. The "Freedom of movement" is more free within the Nordic countries than within EU.
I'm from the UK and have lived and worked in Germany for 6 years. Before that I was in France for six years. Before the UK left the EU I had the right to live and work in any EU country, and have enjoyed both. With Brexit that changed and so I now have a visa to stay living and working here and won't be able to move to another EU country anything like as easily. Freedom of movement is (was...) a great opportunity.
..yup, sweden here, heard alot of noice from brexiteers... seem more or less all regret leaving EU ... definetly goint to/from UK is more complicated, and also trade is more difficult now...
@@Colourmad314 ...in short yes...
..it will be different from country to country (laws of the MEP, member countries r respected), but in general any1 cin any country can form a political party (req is different in each country), EU Parliament have democratic representation, (wich also varies from country to country), but 2 representatives from each member country is selected to represent induvidual countries, wich in turn suggest candidates for presidency..
for lower positions any citizen of any member country can vote
"EU citizens are central to the EU’s democratic process and they all have a right to vote in the European Parliament elections." , but u have to go there urself, and if its just u or the groups votes, if u have decrete from others to vote on thir behalf, its one vote amongst 448million if its just u (1 vote in favor 448M - 1 not heard) .. easies way is to start a party and win national elections in ur country...
You probably can get german citizenship by now. I think it could be worth it for you to have a European passport
@@tomas.lambert ya according to the rules anyway..
"Becoming Naturalized in Europe
You can become a naturalized citizen in Europe if you have worked and lived in an EU country for a minimum of five years (or more depending on the country). The application process for naturalization varies depending on which pathway to citizenship you followed, i.e., work or marriage. In addition, you must show evidence of language proficiency in your EU country to qualify for citizenship by naturalization."
@@tomas.lambert Oh I know :) I'm looking into it!
Imagine that you are a young person from Germany and you want to go to university. You can just go to university in France, or Greece, or Italy, or Spain, or any of many other countries. You can find a legal job there. Rent or buy an apartment. Get a bank loan. Buy and register a car. Without any problems.
Dosnt 100% work lige that. There are still some requirements for getiing in universities and some educations
@@Woot007 There are always some requirements. But in this case they are minimal and much less burdensome than in the case of people from outside the EU.
@@leszekk.73 NP :) you just made it sound like there wasnt any requirements there are like grade requirements and how long the education takes normally higher reguirements.
@@Woot007 there are some legal requirements. Being an european union citizen is one, as an example. But the base idea is true and exact. He can go to university at portugal, find a job at Italy, get a driving license at Austria, buy a car at Spain and drive it to Germany, go to an hospital to get treated at France... is way, way more impressive than most people think, even with the small print details.
@@ronnie3561 You think so?
Has it never occurred to you that I write about the life experiences of my family, friends and neighbors?
Haven't you thought that we simply live in the EU, work here, and that our children study in different countries? Has it not occurred to you that every day we meet people from other countries who are our neighbors at work or in stores?
Austrian here: I sometimes drive to Italy for (grocery) shopping, living not far away. prices are bit cheaper and the quality is great and they got stuff we dont have (generally italian drinks and snacks are godtier xD). I can just drive over border without anyone checking anything and carry goods around like I want
I go to germany for my grocery shopping i live next to the dutch german border
Austria huh? But now the question everybody is dying to know: Can you bring your kangaroo with you when visiting Germany? 🦘(Just visited Vienna It the amount of merch "No kangaroos in Austria" really made me crack up)
I know what you mean. I live in a French-speaking town of Eastern Belgium, a 20/30 minute drive to the borders with Luxembourg and Germany, and an hour drive to the French border. Especially being so close to Luxembourg, I have not refueled my car and bought booze in Belgium for many years (would be the same for tobacco if I were a smoker). Some other items are cheaper in Germany. And you have a wider (and often cheaper) choice of fine food in France. I also love this multiculral environment of mine where you routinely hear people speaking French, German and Luxembourgish. Add many Flemish and Dutch tourists who speak Dutch.
Funny, because whenever I'm in Südtirol I like to pay a visit over the border to get Austrian groceries I like and I can't get here in Italy :D
@@proftorricelli40 that's how it goes haha
Well... As a French national, I'll let my English cousins explain how Brexit affected them.
But from what I heard from a couple of my British friends, they are not very happy.
Being able to book a train ticket and go visit Germany, the Netherlands, Italy is a blessing. No papers needed, no VISAs, I only need my French ID card. Priceless.
It also helps keep prices for travel low, because everyone can freely do it so the market and competition is big. If it was difficult to cross borders, fewer people would do it and travel agencies would have to charge more per ticket or offer fewer travel options due to lower demand.
U needed papers to enter or leave the UK before Brexit and nothing has changed since then.
@@NK-bj8li
Bahaha...right...now you need loads and loads more paper and time though. 😂
@@NK-bj8liTell UK exporters and shippers that! They may disagree that there is no more paperwork.
Tell me what papers where needed before Brexit because before that , besides the ID card the only papers i took with me where the newspapers to read on the plane.@@NK-bj8li
I'm British, now living in Germany, initially under Freedom of Movement. Simply packed a bag, moved to Germany to be with my German fiance having just been made redundant from my UK job. Got a job within 3 months in Germany and was therefore allowed to stay (to stay you had to either have a job or be self financing including medical costs). When brexit came along, because I was registered in Germany I was allowed to remain a resident of Germany. Now I have a residence permit which will need to be replaced every 10 years along with my passport. If I wanted to do the same now I would have to apply for a work visa to start with, having a potential job in Germany which would earn a certain amount. I would also be required to take tests for language competence. All in all a lot more hassle and restrictions. Going on holiday as part of freedom of movement.. UK to Spain: join EU queue on arrival and wave your passport at passport control. After brexit, join "outside of EU" queue and need to get your passport scanned and stamped, possibly asked reason for visit etc. Stamp and scan means only allowed to stay for limited time, 90 days in 180 I believe. This means it is a lot longer clearing security/customs . One of the areas which has been hit hardest by leaving freedom of movement is actually up and coming British music bands who have a much harder time touring in the EU. Previously they could tour for however long they liked, now they are restricted.
Yeah, thats what they voted for. Seems they just forget to tell them the details before.
Unfortunately two sides to everything, just as you could = did - move to Germany to work there were an awful lot of other Europeans who moved to the UK to work and because of various different factors left large parts of the UK with hundreds of unemployed locals - we have a similar issue here in Ireland though it seems to have resulted in Irish citizens moving out of Ireland and going to Canada and Australia (not necessarily good for the country either). Works two ways, some things are good and some things are bad.
@@musicandbooklover-p2o Overall the result was a gain for the UK with Freedom of Movement as Brexit consequences have proven. After brexit those hundreds of unemployed locals are still unemployed and the jobs simply not filled.
@@freakygoblin3068 Some might still be unemployed but many are now employed - I know someone from up north, his wages have increased as a result as well (and he is a highly qualified engineer but wages were kept low by less well qualified people being employed at lower wages, now many have gone they have to employ well qualified people instead AND pay them their worth.
But farms and the like employed thousands of illegals anyway and that's going back nearly 50 years now. My maid of honour was working in the industry up near Boston (she was and is there LEGALLY and sort of never left, married a local and recently retired from the fire service) and whenever there was mention of a raid by immigration the place would be empty, she and another girl would be the only two left because they were the ONLY two legal employees, so locals not wanting to work on the backbreaking work of picking potatoes or other field crops is nothing new - in my mother's time they employed school kids to do the work, mum and one of her friends did it for several years to help bring in some money to the households but the pay was very low, the hours were very long (sunrise to sunset), accommodation very very basic (a barn) and it was literally back breaking. Can't employ kids any longer and I don't blame people for not wanting to do the work, even here it's all central and eastern Europeans doing the work, largely because they do it at home as well but are better paid doing it here. Most have settled in at this stage and made new lives for themselves, taken out local citizenship as well and look down on new people coming in and trying to take THEIR jobs from them, we're onto the third of fourth wave of people willing to take low pay to do lousy jobs in the 30 years I've been here and I can remember when the first ones were the refugees coming in from former Jugoslavia, my neighbours son did it and was very very annoyed when more came in and were willing to work for lower wages and he lost his job in turn. I somehow suspect the very low wages have actually been going on for thousands of years but now people can choose NOT to do the work without having to worry about starving as a result which does make a huge difference.
@@musicandbooklover-p2o Not going to go into detail or argue but the idea that someone overqualified for a post should be paid extra for a job is like saying a store should pay engineer wages for a till check out person simply because the used to be an engineer.
On the subject of Brexit, I recommend the channel "A different bias". Phil does an amazing job of explaining all of the failures of Brexit. And look at the videos starting back then when the vote happened(exactly, in 2016), you´ll see how the situation got worse and worse for the UK which lost not just the freedom of movement but lots more.
I was born and raised in a border town in the Netherlands on the border with to Belgium. I went to kindergarten in Belgium, to elementary school in the Netherlands, to high school in Belgium, college in the Netherlands, University in the Netherlands. I had art classes in Belgium, music classes in the Netherlands and I also moved from the Netherlands to Belgium, while still living in the same street. I have friends and family on both sides of the border. Sometimes borders are not a barrier, but just not much more than a line in the sand...
Borders between Belgium, Netherlands and Luxemburg (Benelux) have been open for as long as I can think.
The only border check I have known was between Benelux and Germany.
I'm from the Netherlands and I have worked 6-7 years in Germany at 3 Airports. It is easy inside the EU to work, the EU law is saying: Free way of passing for goods and people inside the European Union. The only thing I needed to provide was a Dutch security check, when I got that I needed to officially translate it to German and then I needed the security check in Germany. So in 2 countries I needed security clearance for working on the airside. We can open bank accounts then, health insurance, taxes. When I was working in the South part of Germany and I drive every 2 weeks home to my family, the German taxes paid me back 0,25€ a km due to a family visit as a worker in Germany, so it was 2 times 680km. So every month 340€ back.
I'm pretty sure that security check was only because you were going to work at an airport. in Denmark at least, you need a security check our own airports
@@BetaTestingUrGf I think that is what he described. Had to get such a security clearance decades ago as well, as he described it, to work on the air side (apron, gates or just anything behind the security checks.)
Did you also vote for that crazy racist dude, Danny?
@@BetaTestingUrGf when I work on airport in my own country I only need 1 security clearances. But when working in another EU country airport you need 2. I was just telling how easy it is to work and move to other EU countries to work and living
The freedom of movement is actually four freedoms:
- the freedom of movement of people
- the freedom of movement of goods
- the freedom of movement of capital
- the freedom of movement of services (to a lesser extend)
It’s a key pillars to the European single market but also a key sign of the cooperation that is the basis of the peace we have in Europe since WW2.
No, it's not. NATO and democratic nation states are, when the people were still in charge becasue of democracy rather than having the unelected of the EU decide, they didn't war and they didn't want tariffs and import duties.
@@DenUitvreterAnd why can’t I shake the feeling that you consider it, that when democratic nation states decide to harmonise rules to create these four general freedoms, to mean that ‘unelected EU bureaucrats’decide on these rules?
All EU rules have been agreed upon by the democratically elected governments of the individual nation states (as well as in most cases by the democratically elected EU parliament). Sure, the details are worked out by bureaucrats but that also happens within national states.
@@aphextwin5712 No, you're actually describing the EEC. Democratically elected governments and parliaments have no veto anymore on laws binding their population. The EU-parlement is not a legislative body and not democratically elected by all the people it decides over, taking democratic out of the equasion.
The EU's structure has created, on purpose it seems, a democratic void in which basically corporations write the rules and the EC plays dictator forcing an ideological agenda on the member states.
@@DenUitvreterWell, majority decisions are the norm in democracies, giving veto power to small fractions of the whole is rarely the case. And the majority decisions inside the EU have fairly high thresholds, 55% of all countries representing at least 65% of the population. And there are still a good number of areas which require unanimity among all member states.
And the EU parliament is democratically elected, it just gives voters from smaller countries a larger weight. But such things are common in many democracies, usually via a second chamber of parliament. And the parliament has more powers than it had during the EEC period.
Of course there are EU rule takers with no official say so like Norway or to some degree Switzerland. But that was their choice and I thought we were talking about the EU itself.
You can argue that the democratic foundation of the EU has flaws, but every democracy has some. Corporations have a lot of influence in the U.S. as well.
And the actual main flaw of the democratic nature of the EU is the lack of a combined public mind. There is very little media that is consumed in all or just even most countries. Public discourse is important for a democracy, and shared media consumption is a key element for this. Even within one country, if there is no shared public discourse, if different sides live largely in their own bubbles, that damages the democratic process, exhibit 1: USA. Or take Belgium where the linguistic divide has made the democratic process noticeably more difficult at times.
The biggest problem with the EU is that it seems to be less for unifying movement and trade like it use to, and more for unifying cultures and political ideas.
Hungary is the most recent example of this, their disagreement with the EU on certain topics, has caused the EU to pressure them by threatening to remove funding and their ability to vote on EU law. This is not what countries signed up for, as being in the EU is suppose to protect each countries own political views; and even slightly giving the EU power to change of disrupt a countries political views, even if technically indirect, is the dictatorship stance that many people believed the EU would eventually take on. We are seeing the start of this now, and if more disagreements in the EU are followed by the EU creating sanctions to push a country to abide by certain views, then the ‘EU project’ will dismantle quicker then it can be held together.
Transferred to North America "Freedom of Movement" would mean:
not only travel and make vaccations but more:
Any Mexican could move and live, study and work ANYwhere in the US or Canada,
ANY Canadian could do this in USA or Mexico,
ANY US citizen could do the same in Mexico or Canada,
WITHOUT any governmential aproval, without a work permit from a company request towards the government or green card needed.
ya well thats likely to happend... i can understand ppl want to leave US, the opposite...
North America is a lot more than just the US, Canada and Mexico, but yes, all this is what we call Freedom of Movement in the EU.
And in great majority of cases it would mean possibility to apply for a job legally, with all taxes involved. Whenever employer try to exploit them they can tell him to f...of and look somewhere else. Now you have a lot of illegals working for crap money, or pursuing carrier in crime, witch in consequence lowers rates and job opportunities for locals. Most of those working illegals do jobs locals don't want anyway. We had this in Europe, it doesn't work in the long run. Current emigration crysis in EU started from lack of people willing to work for bowl of rice, so some "leaders" invited people promising social benefits. Of course there still will be criminals, that's inevitable, but it's a lot harder to recruit new ones unless you attract only people aiming for social and not work and making a life.
None of this applies to the UK any more sadly, but in the EU, you can go to university, work, or even just decide to move home to any other EU country. People might do their grocery shopping in a neighbouring country, or might just choose to move their entire life. And while it's similar to US states, it's not really the same moving to an actual different country with an entirely different culture, language and way of doing things. But the EU lets you do that.
The difference between Europe and States in the US is that the language and culture will change massively, while in the US you are still in the same country where people live the same and the language still is the same.
The states of the USA are provinces, Länder, départements, etc ... in our European countries.
giving you an idea what freedom of movement and EU meant for me.
I grew up in a town of 300, moved to the city (there is only one) - entered university and applied for a EU Erasmus scholarship. Because we are part of freedom of movement and Schengen, i was able to move to Germany for my study (i was paid by my state to study abroad) - with an agreement that i would work (if work was needed) in Germany for some time and then return to Iceland to the city to continue my work.
So, my entire career was enabled by EU freedom of movement, paid by EU schemes - and well, paid back by working there to contribute.
Had it not been for EU freedom, i would have stayed in Reykjavik, graduated from university there and not gone abroad and travelled all around Europe until my 30s.
All that - without much paperwork - and with EU schemes that made me feel welcome, despite being a migrant in Germany.
edit: and since you asked - Iceland is NOT in the EU .. so, yes - you can move between EU countries as a non EU citizen - provided you are part of Schengen and Freedom of movement. We are part of EFTA, which overlaps with Sweden and Denmark as EU countries. Also, we are a former crown country of Denmark.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but currently only Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein are part of EFTA. The other countries left when they entered the EU
Wow, so cool to hear that you were able to come here and study :-) I hope you had a great experience. Maybe I will be able to see Reykjavik one day!
Actually it is all about the EEA which are the EU countries + EFTA without Switzerland.
Switzerland is not part of the EEA but has individual treaties with the EU.
Schengen is different. All EFTA members are part of Schengen but not all EU members are.
And there are parts or oversea areas of some Schengen members that are not included in Schengen.
Bulgaria for example is not part of Schengen but the rights for EU citizens also apply there.
Let me tell you something about freedom of movement from my German perspective. I live near the Czech Republic, just 20 kilometers to the east, and I'm there. That country was SOCIALIST until not even 40 years ago. NO WAY of crossing the border unless you were a diplomat or something. Now they're a member of the EU, and I just drive through. There's just a square blue sign with the EU stars on it, and "Czech Republic" in white letters in Czech. These signs are the same all around the EU and are just a reminder that different rules of traffic may apply, and most probably a different language will be spoken. The Czech Republic is not a member of the currency union yet, but at least here in the border region, euros are accepted. Many Czech people work over here and of course get paid in euros, so it would be ridiculous if they had to exchange their money first before they could use it. Many of them chose to have a bank account in Germany because of that currency issue, but that's a minor problem.
exactly as you say, 40years ago there were people with mashine guns instead of those blue signs
About the Czech Republic pre 1990s: above being a socialist country, it was a dictatorship. It wasn’t primarily because it was socialist, crossing the border was hard. Norway too can be argued being a socialist state in the 60s and 70s, but democratic.
@@wakda And barbed wire and even further back electric fence (in some parts, but I am not an expert on Iron Curtain)
@@themetricsystem7967 Well, no, I disagree with you a bit. It was what we in the west called a "party dictatorship" because only one party was allowed to rule, and that was the socialist party. Same in the GDR ("East Germany") back then, and in many other socialist countries. There were "democratic" elections which the socialist parties always won with a whopping 98% or so. East Germany even had the audacity to name themselves the German DEMOCRATIC Republic while the West was just the FEDERAL republic. -- Ridiculous if you think of it now.
@@eisikater1584 I think it also is "democratic peoples republic of north Korea". I think their definition of democracy is just different. everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, as long as it is the same as Kims...
Most Eu countries (26 I believe) are part of something called the Schengen Agreement, which allows completely free, borderless movement between these places without the need for passports. Yes we in the UK can still travel throughout the EU, but very sadly one result of Brexit was that we (UK) lost the right to move freely across, live, work and study in EU countries, and we are now restricted to spending 90 days total time in the EU in any one year. As well as losing these rights, this is also a major blow to many UK residents who lived or worked in EU countries, or have holiday or retirement properties there. It is also probable that we will soon need visas to travel to EU countries.
@sergiufurdui7542 many thanks for the updated clarification
@@adamchapman3252 One more thing, the UK was never part of Schengen, even when they were in the EU.
@@RaduRadonys Yes you're right, I should have made that clear, being from the UK I was VERY aware of this
When I moved from The Netherlands to Ireland I obviously had to register here to be able to work here and all that stuff. There's a bit of paperwork as in I had to make sure I was no longer registered in The Netherlands. But yes, it is easy to just say you want to move somewhere to study or live and work when you're part of the EU as it stands.
I would guess this case is different than most because Ireland has an opt-out from the Schengen agreement.
@@biginoproclive I think that is related to sharing a border with northern Ireland, which never was part of the Schengen agreement after all. so Ireland is quite a special case.
@@alexanderkupke920 Not just that, we saw what had happened to other European countries which were overrun with immigrants to the detriment of the locals. We're only a small country and unfortunately one result of the massive amounts of immigration has been huge homelessness, many can't afford to rent (how can we when immigrants will rent a house between 6 or 7 working people and split the rent, a family with one or maybe 2 working parents hasn't a hope in matching that and as rents have rocketed we've lost out. I couldn't afford to rent a house if I wanted to (I am currently hoping my brother will buy a house here and rent it to me, otherwise I'll continue living in a caravan in someone's back garden but when we came to view this we were one of nearly a dozen families desperately looking for a place to rent and willing to accept anything as long as it was a roof over their heads - we got it because we'd been living in a caravan in another back garden for nearly a decade at that stage, we knew what we were getting into but the life isn't for everyone, most wouldn't cope - and the rent is still over a thousand a month, cheap compared to rent for a house though).
@@musicandbooklover-p2oThat’s an issue of not building social housing and developers trickle feeding new houses into the market to keep prices high. Nothing to do with EU migration.
And the only reason we’re not in Schengen is because of the Common Travel Area with the U.K. Ot has absolutely nothing to do with being “overrun with immigrants”. When the Schengen area was established there was no immigrants coming to Ireland because there was no jobs here for anyone. Absolute nonsense.
9:05 To Answer "how does it work for the British after Brexit": It does not. They are not that important anymore as Business Hub, and they no longer have Freedom of Movement.
A lot of business has gone to Ireland, France, Netherlands....
GB shoots herself in a foot.
@rokur; Absolute rubbish!
But at least these countries that are going to get more trade, France £5 billion, Holland £4Billion that they did pay to the EU, your words, can actually pay their way in the EU, to make up the shortfall of the money, £13.4Billion, that we had to pay!
Eat your hearts out backstabbers!
I'm Hungarian, but my gf is from Slovakia (Hungarian as ethnicity), and we both study in Hungary, she can learn/work/live here as she likes. The border is only some bridges across the Danube, and with an ID, you can go anywhere.
EU citizens have the right to live and work in any EU country they choose. 3rd country citizens can visit for 90 days in a 180 day period with no right to work or permanent residence without visas.
I grew up in Germany but moved to the Netherlands to study. All I had to do was find a place to live and tell the municipality that I live here now. It's that simple. I didn't need any papers that would allow me to enter the country or stay here or work here. I just applied to the university and found a place. And now that I'm done, I'm looking for jobs, with no visa requirement, work permit or anything. And if I feel like moving back to Germany, it's just as easy. :)
I'm Welsh and British. I've lived in 4 countries in the Union and voted Remain in the EU referendum. Overnight, I lost easy access to 27 of the 28 states. I'd grown up with the EU being, in a sense, my entire country (like you have in the US) and it was stolen from me. I was going to move to Britanny and now I can't.
We lost the Brexit referendum to old people and bigots. They screwed our country and its been going downhill ever since. So, if I can up my income, I'll be taking French, Danish, or Swiss* citizenship and leaving.
It was doubly stupid as the indepence movements in Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland have increased. Let 'little old England' stumble along on her own until she dies of gout and old age.
*Switzerland isn't in the EU but does have a freedom of movement agreement with the Union.
People in the Nordic Countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Iceland) can freely move between the other Nordic countries even if they don’t belong to EU.
That's because Norway and Iceland are inside the Schengen area and have comercial agreement's with the EU , it's not quite the same free of movement/work/investment/residency that the 27 members enjoy. (Edited) Sorry , i was trying to remember the acronym ... they are members of the European Economic Area (EEA) along with Lichtenstein and Switzerland.
@@LagartoPT It's been that way since 1957 between Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway. The Faroe islands joined in 1961 and Iceland joined in 1965. Way before Schengen.
@@LagartoPTWhat Darklee69 said. The Nordics have been open border for work, school whatever since a long time before anyone here know where or what Schengen was. Schengen and EU copied the "Nordic model".
Norway is also part of EFTA again a predecessor of EU.
@@LagartoPTIn Scandinavia we have never needed a passport to travel between our countries
Not just around the Nordic countries. But most European countries. This is not EU dependent.
For just travelling, here´s a quite extreme example:
I (an eastern German) can take the next bus to the local train station, take the next train to Berlin, find a way to the BER airport and book a flight to Iceland RIGHT NOW! No car, no passport required. I just wanted to.
i can drive from portugal all the way to latvia and pick you up on the way
I live in Portugal and my cousin can go to an international school in Estonia. She finished HS and can go there now for advanced studies.
Yes, it is about movement of people and goods between countries without needed stop on borders, get checket, need to have passport, pay CLO fo goods etc. You can choose chool, job, buy or rent house, get shopping abroad and so on within so called Shengen area of Europe. Most of them are in EU, some are not, some counties in EU are outside of Shengen. UK was never part of Shengen area, even tho they soften border control to be somewhere on halfway to Shengen while they were in EU (They embraced some of those rules, some not).
This is not only about movement (transporttion) without borders - it is also about beeing able to settle in onother country, to work there or study without anybody's permission.
Basically, us Brits (not me) voted to restrict their freedom to move across, work in and live in other European countries... and for what? The country is worse now than it's been for a long time.
Hello Ian. If your birthplace and nationality is inside the U.E. Union européenne (EU in english), you can go everywhere in Europe for vacations, work or anything else for 1 week, 1 year or your entiry life without passeport and visa. You are absolutly free to move where you want go. No police control between the frontiers, nothing. You move, that's it. H1ve à good day from France 🇫🇷
When my little brother went to University, it was so close to the Dutch border that he rented an apartment in the Netherlands, and there was a regular bus line into the German city of Aachen. Didn't even think twice about that.
A train I commuted with for a while also extended into the Netherlands and was run by a Dutch company (bilingual signage and everything). The border isn't really close (by European standards, obviously), but definitely not far.
Wouldn't it be easier to rent in Belgium? (The german speaking part)
Yes, it's the most forgotten part of Belgium, the part where they speak German but still wouldn't that save in money and no language barrier?
in EU since the Shengen agreements in early 90's we are free to go anywhere into the Schengen area
some highways cross borders just with a sign on the side of the road, you can take a train in Paris, take a nap and wake up in Berlin (you were tired...really tired), you take your plane in Madrid and land in Budapest with just your ID card
i wanted to go on weekend in London just for shoping, with one of my ex and it was 25€ for the plane ticket (and that's the only thing needed)
a lot of people near borders cross these borders everyday to go to work and come back after their day at work
Its so nice to be able to skip the douane line when you land in another EU country
In Europe, you can travel from country to country thanks to the Schengen agreement, which allows the free movement of people between most of the member states of the European Union and some associated countries. This agreement removes border controls between participating countries, allowing people to travel freely without the need for passport controls at internal borders.
... and the most EU countries have the same currency < not to forget! So you not only cross a (non-existing) border, but you also don't have to change your money, too. You just pay in Euro! :)
Freedom of movement is part of the Schengen agreement and covers countries who've ratified the Schengen agreement (or a modiefied version as Britain did when they still were part of the EU) and are now part of the Schengen Area. It usually means no border controls (or mobile controls) and yes, you can move to these countries without a problem, get a job, study, buy property and everything. A few countries might have some restrictions when it comes to buying property (i.e. you have to live in the country for a certain amount of time each year).
That's also true for tourists. So if an American enters the EU in Germany, he could easily travel to France, Spain, Italy, Netherlands and so on without going through immigration again. His visa is not for Germany but for the whole Schengen Area.
Btw, Schengen Area is not the same as EU. There are countries that are members of the EU but not part of the Schengen Area.
Non-EU: You can move relatively freely into Switzerland. Border controls still exist, but not really enforced, but you can't just move there or so. You can get a job and then move, but that's supposedly not that easy to accomplish. There are also a lot of people who live in Germany, but work in Switzerland and cross the border daily. Or the other way around, which is rarer, because living in Sitzerland is really expensive.
Like many other people have already said, freedoom of movement is so much more than just the ability to travel between countries freely, you can go live, study and or work in pretty much any contry within the EU/Schengen area without really having to worry about visas and stuff like that
In EU you can: travel, live, work, study, retired în any country: no border check, no visa, no permission etc. You can live 1 year in Spain, 2 years in France, 3 years in Greece....
French here. Yes, it's great to be able to move freely in any of the EU country, anytime, with just an ID card...
So it is for crime and criminals
@@8tonystark8 First of all, not everyone is a criminal. Most people you will meet in your life, in any given country, are honest. Second, that's what Europol (the European police) is here for. Freedom of movement has been in place since 1995 and criminals still get arrested, no matters what EU country they hide in. Feel free to research yourself what Europol is.
@@8tonystark8 so we should hide in fear and stay indoors and never leave or country because of criminals? What sort of moronic clown are you 🤡🤦🏻
@@soly-dp-colo6388 ...and Criminals will not be deterred by a border to not cross it when it is illegal. Criminal might give you a clue...
Me and my best mate once had to go work in Poland. We needed our tools so we drove there sharing the driving.
There were six different countries involved, England, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany and Poland.
After showing our passports at the Eurotunnel freight terminal in England, the next person to ask to see them, was the receptionist at our hotel in Poland.
No one bothered us the whole journey.
From the UK perspective we did loose most of those rights
We can still travel to the EU for vacation with little or no hassle (you currently get a passport stamp at boarder control which you didn't before... was just an ID check)
But we can no longer decide to live or work or study in the rest of the EU without going through a lengthy and involved visa process (unless you were already living there before brexit in which case your rights were preserved)
I am from Czech Republic 🇨🇿 and so proud to be part of EU as i can easily travel to amazing countries like Spain, Netherlands or Germany just with my ID. I would say we are so lucky 🫶🇪🇺
School, studies abroad in Europe is very simple. You pass your high school, do some extra exams or things if there's a specific field and requirements or to make your chances better. You send a letter of acceptance to the schools abroad. If you're accepted then move to that country. Just like going to school/university in different state in US. If you're accepted, move to that state
Before Brexit I could wake up in the morning, decide that I wanted brunch in London, rush to airport, buy a ticket and have my bum sit on a cafè in center London by noon. With just my ID and my credit card with me.
Now, if I want to go to England I have to apply for a passport, apply for a Visa and therefore I have to plan the travel far ahead.
Bad for turism, worse for business, hell for UK-EU frequent flyers
I am Norwegian. Norway is not an EU country but Norway is a EEC country.
I moved to Greece and all I had to do was to register with the foreign police before 90 days and show them documents that I was self financed. I got a permit to stay for 5 years. After 5 years I had to go back to get my permanent Greek ID card.
So even as a EEC country citizen I have the same rights here in Greece as a native Greek citizen 😊
Traveling between EU countries is super common and really easy. There are no customs checkpoints, and you've got total freedom to move around. You don't need a visa or even a passport; a national ID card is all you need.
You can even study or work in another country without needing any special permission, it's like you're a local for all intents and purposes.
Take me for example, I'm Spanish, living in Spain, but I've worked a few years in Dublin, Ireland. My eldest daughter, after finishing her biology degree, pursued a master's in the Netherlands and now, after doing another one here in Zaragoza (Spain), she's starting to work in a lab in Bordeaux, France. My younger daughter is thinking about doing a master's in design in Italy.
Traveling is pretty affordable too. Low-cost flights are super cheap, and there are also high-speed trains. We usually travel around Europe in our car during the summer holidays. And generally, people move a lot between neighboring countries, like between Spain and Portugal or Spain and France, for example. I think this has really brought us together as Europeans and has made the wars of the past just something you read about in history books.
My nephew (from Portugal) went on an Erasmus exchange programme to Germany, where he met a Czech girl. After returning to Portugal and obtaining his Computer Engineering degree, he just moved to Prague with that girl, searched for a job, found one at a tech company (full of people from all over Europe), and now he's settled there. And after two years of residency he will have the right to vote in local Czech elections (not on national Czech ones, though), as does any other EU/EEA citizen living in any EU/EEA country.
This video was essentially a PR piece for the ‘Remain’ Campaign during the Brexit debate. What isn’t made very clear is that freedom of movement isn’t just a question of going to another EU country, starting work, living or studying. Yes, you can do all those things, but you still have formalities. For example, for a Brit to go and get a job in say Germany or Spain, even when we were members of the EU, you would have to apply for residency status - you also need a tax ID in order to work. If someone doesn’t have a residency permit of one sort or another, it’s virtually impossible to rent or buy a property, or get access to utilities. So, it isn’t as black and white as portrayed in this video. Since leaving the EU, the British still have the freedom to go to any EU member state for between 90 - 180 days a year - more than enough to take some of those city breaks they were talking about. It’s also sufficient time for someone to get their residency status sorted out if they wish to stay in another EU country. Likewise, other Europeans can do the same if they want to come to the UK. When travelling between EU members states, there are special lanes for EU citizens, that can be used without producing a passport or formal ID. However, in order to get to your country, the airline will demand a formal ID document - effectively doing the same job as border control. Because the UK was never part of the EU Schengen region, citizens always needed a passport, because the UK doesn’t have ID cards. The problem that Europe is now experiencing because of free movement, is that of illegal migration. Unfortunately, some EU countries have more relaxed rules about who is allowed to enter their country than others. Once a migrant is in Europe, they can then freely travel o their preferred EU country and claim asylum. This is now a major headache which is forcing some EU countries to rethink the Freedom of Movement policies of the EU.
I worked in Switzerland for quite a time and obviously it's not really a problem. The Swiss labour market is open for EU citizens as well. There are some requirements but I have never experienced any troubles there. It depends on the kind of the residence permit you get. (There are a couple of different permits here and the most important difference is the time aspect.) A residence permit does not mean, you're allowed to work and vice versa. So you need them both. Your employer mostly takes care of your working permit and with a working permit you mostly get a residence permit as well. I mostly travelled by train from Switzerland to Germany or The Netherlands. And the only thing that might happen is that a border control officer asks you (in the train) for your passport and asks which suitcase(s) belong to you. Most of the times I didn't even get that questions. So all in all between the EU and Switzerland is works very smooth as well.
There are 2 distinct non-EU countries: EFTA (European Free Trade Agreement) and non-affiliated. The EFTA countries (Norway, Switzerland, UK, Iceland) do have certain benefits connected to the EU. Non-affiliated countries (e.g. Turkey, Serbia, Albania) don't have those benefits.
Until the EU came to be what it is today, it was more of a loose collection of countries with trade agreements, comparable with US-Canada, or US-Mexico. Nowadays the EU is indeed more like the states in the USA.
Imagine you had the right to live and work within any member of NAFTA, and they had the right to live and work in the USA in return.
So, my country (Norway) is not part of the EU, but is in Europe and part of the EEA agreement. England is part of that since 2021...
"The EEA Agreement gives Norway and Norwegians the same rights and obligations as other EEA countries and their citizens when it comes to trade in goods, investments, banking and insurance, buying and selling services and the right to work, study and live in EEA countries."
Borders in europe used to divide families; not only countries. During and after the yugoslavian wars we had to pass two different border checks just to travel 50 km from italy to croatia to see relatives of us. Some times it was one continuous queue going from the italy-slovenija border to the slovenija-croatia border. Now we are all in the schengen and euro area.
It is simple if you're a citizen in any E.U. country you are a E.U. citizen you can stay , work , study without any visa without any passport , in the Shengen zone there is no border checks for non E.U. citizen and the visa is available for all the countries that are part of the Shengen zone , and its more deep if you think about it in a economic way ... no need to wait at border check=less fuel used=faster delivery=cheaper imported product
20 years ago, we, my wife and I went to Spain on Holiday, nothing out of the usual, but we bought a car in Spain and then looked for a little Villa, Finca, in the local area.We then bought a small boat some 7 years later and then a Motorbike.
Medical was/is still free, including airlift to Hospital!
You do need your own Insurance for all vehicles in each country!
Unfortunately, especially smaller countries that get invaded by hundreds of thousands of foreigners lose their identity. Every country should keep and live and defend its own culture(s). That's real diversity: You should be able to experience that you are in Italy or France or Germany when you're there. If there is the same mixture of people, languages, brands etc. everywhere, diversity is dead.
There is the European Union and the Schengen Area, which are different things. The Schengen Area means you can not only move between countries, you get all the rights and protections that the local citizens get. That means that when a German moves to France, he gets the same social security net that a natural born Frenchman gets.
Some EU countries get partial rights, like being in the Schengen Area, but not quite.
Some parts of some EU countries are exempt and some EU countries are just not in Schengen.
Imagine if you could just move to Canada and get healthcare, because you moved there. Literally what it is, if you boil it down to the basics.
Norway. Switzerland or UK ain't members of EU, but they have joined the free movement area called Schengen agreement, so one can move into those Coutries from the EU.
Freedom of movement works like this:
I met a Dutch guy who was in Denmark to visit his ex-girl friend - from back when she had the crazy idea of going to the Netherlands to work for a year - and just did it.
I fell in love - but alas, he had to go home. So I asked my boss if I could take a week off, starting the day after tomorrow. I took a train to South Holland , found out I couldn't live without him, and - as he was unimployed, and I was not, I brought him with me back to Denmark and send him out looking for a job.
10 years later I did the reverse stunt, when I fell in love with a Brit 🤣
Want to study in Spain? Just do it!
As long as you are within the EU, and you are an EU citizen, you can travel to any EU country with no restrictions, no visa, most places not even a border check. And you can apply for jobs in another country and apply for schools and colleges as well. As long as you fulfill their criteria of the college which should be the same as for local citizens of that specific EU country, you can get in, no issues. I myself studied in two different EU countries, worked in three so far. Been at this for almost 9 years. The paperwork is minimal, most cases its just registering with the country you are leaving that you are no longer a tax resident there, and wherever you are going to get their tax number and confirm that you are now a tax resident in that new country. Easy enough process in most places. Some Non-EU countries are a part of this deal and have most of these benefits with some individual agreements, such as Switzerland, Norway or Iceland (in most cases, these are based on reciprocity, so if people from Switzerland can move to the EU and work and live there freely, EU people can go to Switzerland freely with the same benefits), at least as far as I know.
Other non-EU countries for the most part have no such benefits.
in Australia we can go from state to state without any issues but if you enter south of australia via victoria there is a border check to see if your not bringing any plants or foods from other states
You're comparing national travel within the same country, to international travel?!
How dense are you?!
@@dontlaughtoomuch11 now i am comparing country to country
@@top40researcher31 The video is about free travel within Europe, so a continent. Why are you comparing that to a country (Australia) ? Which country to country are you talking about, since you mentioned Australia only?
@@RaduRadonys Australia IS a continent ;-) In that sense he is correct to compare ;-)
And you have to check if food is smuggled in from the UK..you know..UK food ;-)
How was that about the Truckers sandwich?
@@keyboard5494 Your forgot "Home & Away" and "Neighbours" 😄😃😀
The video is outdated. It was part of the UK "remain" campaign before the referendum in which they voted to leave the EU. Brits do not have freedom of movement in the EU since 2020.
But yes what they say is generally true for the countries remaining in the EU(and EFTA).
I live in Spain, about two km from Portugal. Sometimes I go to the neighboring town for a coffee or a walk
Trip for You : UK = Land Rover and castles; France = Renault , Biscaia gulf, Le Mans 24 race; Germany with train at France , Unimog test drive and beer ,manors, parks; Czech Tatra , Skoda , Beer , Tatra mountains, Prague oldtown. Italy with liner bus doubbeldekker , pizza,pasta, wein, Lanica test drive , swiming on sea and ride with ferry to Sardinia island. Spain with ship and Seat drive test Malaga beach and then back USA.
Tatra mountains are in my country- Slovakia 😁... Man, CzechoSlovakia no more exists from 1993.
Czechs have small mountains, the highest peak is in Krkonoše mountains - Sněžka 1603 m. o. s.
@@miso3685 They test Tatra trucks on Tatra hills
@@miso3685 I Was in Slovakia 20q6 in Orava. You know in Estonia where I from is village Orava too.
I drive across the border almost daily, since I work in Vienna and reside in Bratislava. No checks, even during Covid, nobody checked anything on the train (but border crossings on roads were a different story). When I was younger, the border which I cross so conveniently today, was part of the iron curtain. It was illegal to cross it. You needed special papers, that were very hard to get and did cost you money. If somebody of your family, like a brother, has emigrated, you were practically banned to get those permits to leave what was then Czechoslovakia, if you wanted to travel to the "west" - which Austria is. Many people were shot when they desperately tried to flee to the west, to freedom. Those times are not that long ago and if I told somebody back then that I will have a job in Vienna and drive daily from Bratislava without anybody checking anything more than my train ticket, they would have though I was a lunatic. I do not need any special permissions to be able to work in any EU country I want, the same applies if I want to study or reside in another EU country. The freedom of movement for people is one of the basic four freedoms of the single market. What I consider to be normal was unimaginable just a few decades ago.
Greek here, in Malta for little more than a year. Was in Denmark for 5 years prior to this. I regularly travel around Europe for concerts and such. I remember how it used to be before. Glad we're not there anymore...
Even before the EU you could travel to different countries, you still needed a passport to get out of the UK and then required the visa's for each country you are visiting, it's now gone full circle and back to the same as an American visiting Europe ie passport and visa with a limited stay to 90 days in every 180 days, to clarify, you always needed the passport to leave or return to the UK, that never went away Brexit or no Brexit.
Unless you're travelling between Ireland and Britain, no passport needed thanks to the Common Travel Area
Before Brexit you could also use your ID card as long as it was from one of the EU countries.
Belgian living and working in France - no formalities visa etc necessary. I even got on the French medical aid no questions asked. My sister lived in Italy for awhile and is now in Denmark. It’s very cool to come and go as you please all across EU
My argument to people from the USA who always boast about their freedom is that there's really nothing, and I mean nothing of relevance, that you're free to do in the USA, that you also can't do in the EU. And there are A LOT of things you can't do, or aren't able to do under certain conditions, or are much more difficult to do in the USA, compared to the EU. The issue is an average person from the US knows very little to nothing about the EU, while an average EU person knows a lot about the US, so there's always that aspect that creates issues in debates, as one side believes by default that they have a monopoly on "freedom", without knowing about what the other side has.
And please nobody mention guns, because, yea, we can have guns in the EU, and in fact do, and in fact some countries in Europe have more civilian guns owned than the US per capita. What true freedom is, isn't the ability to carry a gun, but the ability to live in such a society where you never feel the need to carry a gun. To me freedom is not having to worry about my health because I know I have a public healthcare system backing me in need providing the best possible care regardless of whether I'm rich or poor. Freedom is not having to worry what will happen to me when I get old, because I know I'm taken care of. Freedom is not having to worry about a corrupt justice system that literally treats imprisoning people as a business model. Freedom is knowing that the cops that protect me go through 5 years of stringent education and training (instead of a couple of months like in the US) and can deal with complex situations without trigger-happy reactions that lead to tragedies. Freedom is traveling to any country on the continent like it's my own, being able to live there like it's my own, work there like it's my own, go and educate myself there, free of charge, like it's my own. Freedom is not having to worry about whether I'll be able to afford to send my kids to a university one day, or whether I'll have food to put on my table, because the social aspect of the EU has that covered. Freedom is not having to worry whether I can afford to open up a business, because the EU has me covered with financing and all I have to do is make my ideas come to life. Freedom is knowing I have the right to a paid vacation, in fact, over 35 work-days of paid vacation per year, and it's actually illegal NOT to go on vacation (that's the kind of lack-of freedom I like lol). Freedom is being able to send a 7 year old child to go to school on public transport, knowing it will be safe walking through the town, or playing in a park. Freedom is knowing that the food I buy is of the highest quality and there are EU regulatory bodies that are very strict and don't allow big companies to poison me for the sake of profits, and then uses the healthcare system as a business to earn money off of the illnesses caused to me throughout the years of unhealthy living. Freedom is not being brainwashed 24-7 by the media that's trying to keep me in a perpetual state of paranoia. Freedom is knowing that my kids will be educated and know a lot about the world around them as they go through the public schools, and that there's no woke or society-destroying agenda being pushed upon then (yet).
Sadly, there are forces in the world, and sadly, coming from the top of the US foreign policy, that are actively working on destroying what the EU represents, and there's more and more US political influence in the EU, as well as media influence, that is slowly putting what the EU represents in danger, especially combined with the fact that a lot of leaders in the EU are lately behaving like US puppets, working against the interests of their own countries, and in favor of the US interests.
That's why I hope Trump wins the election and focuses on the US and US alone, and then the EU can focus on the EU and EU alone.
I was a reseracher at the french equivalent of the NSF... I trained numerous students from all over EU and all over the world. And some of them stayed and work now full time for my instition, some on permanent post. In my lmast team, we were about 20 persons, one Belgian guy, two Japanese, one Tunisian, one Italian, one from Algeria, two spanish persons, etc.
FoM is actually one of the four rights that constitute the EU (not Europe as a whole, theres a difference ) its the freedom of of , of and the as agreed on in the Maastricht Agreement of 1993 (its like the founding/original contract of the type of supranational state the EU emodies today).
I work in a Kindergarten in germany. We have parents from no less than 22 countries (including the USA), many of them are in mixed nationality relationships. Also, most of the parents are multilingual. The ones from the USA notably are not.
EU residents may travel, live, work, and study - even retire - in any country in the Union. Of course, work and study require a degree of communication skills of the language to which one moves. Otherwise, all the rights and privilages, incl healthcare cover, are common to all the countries at least after a minimum residency, in some cases.
Yes, my daughter made the IB in UK and studied in Oxford and Wien her grade, post grade and now is making the Doctorade in Salzburg. Only you must to have a good academy curriculum. In Europe, the sports don’t give you points to University
As an italian i've experienced this especially as a student: i've taken a few multi-days educational trips to other countries thank to this freedom of movement. Spain, France and Switzerland are the ones i've been to, but other students i've known have also been to Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and the Czech Republic and more.
And depending on the method of travel it's relatively inexpensive and you get to meet many interesting people of different cultural backgrounds.
In fact this freedom is actually fairly integral here, so much so that as a kid i couldn't undnerstand what passports were for since we could easily go from Italy to Paris to see some friends (by train if not by plane)
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When my wife and I visited my late brother in law in upstate New York, we wanted to visit Niagara Falls. The Canadian side has the best view, so we decided to travel into Canada. We were shocked at the harsh and lengthy border control checks on both US and Canada sides. Treated like trespassers or suspects was very sobering. Some paperwork with the rental car was unclear and I thought for a minute they would detain us, but then the sentence came: “Welcome in Canada.” Not used to that at all. So yes, after this experience I appreciate much more the free movement of people and goods inside the EU.
yes, you can move and live in a different EU member state. Work, health insurance, school, etc... No permits needed.
UK also opted out of the Shengen agreement when it was created that also gives freedom of movement, so since they left the EU there is no more real freedom of movement for UK citizens.
There are a few countries that are part of the Shengen area but not part of the EU (Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Liechtenstein), freedom of movement also counts for those countries.
The first freedom of movement area was Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands and Luxemburg). Benelux still exists but since all Benelux countries are part of the EU and Shengen area it doesn't really matter anymore when it comes to freedom of movement.
It's funny how "Americans" (US citizens) see London as a huge strategic place while for us it was just another capital of a EU country. Well yes, it had a big economy compared to other European capitals but I am pretty sure they lost more than us. Big companies and banks that had their EU headquarters in London will or have moved their EU headquarters which is certainly a big loss for London. In the past I used to order from UK campanies on a regular base, but since brexit ... nothing anymore.
9:03 - A lot of American/Multinational companies moved their European HQ to Dublin after brexit.
Otherwise yes, it's quite easy to relocate to another country for work/study.
Being part of the Schengen-Area means you can freely move within the EU and partner countries outside of the EU.
But not just move for tourism.
Also move for business:
- Import
- Export
- Transfer/Transport (i.g. Truck drivers)
- Job hunting
- Living/buying property
Ian, people from third countries (non-EU) such as the UK (the fools!) can still visit, establish themselves, study, work, retire, etc. anywhere they want in the EU but they'll have to go through some red tape: border checks, passport, visa sometimes, residence permit, work permit (as is the case in the USA or any country in the world), and inversely, of course. None of that is required of any European citizen moving about within th EU Member States.
There is even an awesome EU program for students called Erasmus: The European Universities initiative is an ambitious EU initiative aimed at establishing alliances between higher institutions from all across Europe, for the benefit of their students, staff and society. It is implemented primarily through Erasmus+ funding.
You dont need that in America as USA is size of EU and you can work live whatever state you want in EU you can move from place to place but theres a lot of paperwork, insurance, right to work, taxes etc. European countries are smaller then some of the states
I’m half Belgian and Portuguese and I decided 4 years ago to go study in Madrid even though I barely knew how to speak Spanish. It’s really easy to work or study wherever you want in Europe if you’re European
As many have already pointed out. The (EU) freedom of movement covers the EU countries and a couple of proxy countries (micro countries). In essence it is exactly how you started/asked. As citizen an an EU country, you can indeed move to another country, buy a flat, land and so on. Get a job, or pick a school which you like to study at. And you will be treated exactly like a citizen of that country, with all the same rules and red tape.
So sometimes it will be rather easy, others maybe less. But no different for any others.
Oh, and while you do not to get permission to work in another EU country, you might still need to go through some bureaucracy in order to settle where you will be paying your taxes (and if you continue to pay the taxes to your old country of residence, there might be some extra implications on the services you are entitled in your new country). In practice, if you are earning (so b) and it's not a gig, often people do change their country of residence to the place they are living and working (and thus follow the local tax laws and contribute to that countries tax-roll). But for short gigs, not often worth the effort... but as stated, it can have certain implications on the services you get etc.
For attending schools, it is the same, you simple apply to it. And if you're granted a place, then you simply start there. This is reasonably common uni-degrees, especially for Masters programs (in general, Bachelor degrees are offered in the native language, or perhaps in english... but continuation studies to a masters degrees are mostly in english).
Context of the video: UK and Brexit and with that leaving the EU and not having some of the benefits like Freedom of Movement. Because you asked for the strategic importance of the UK in the EU - e.g. London was mostly a big financial center in the EU where many banks etc. had their main offices. This changed and banks had to move to different EU countries or open subsidiary there to still be able to comply to EU laws. Many moved for example to Frankfurt in Germany.
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Yes, that's exactly what it means. Within the EU, you can move freely, even across national borders. You are free to decide in which EU country you want to live if you are a citizen of an EU country.
The only thing you need is your identity card - you don't need a visa! Of course, you can also live in one country and work in another - within the EU this is normal.
Yes, the video is from before Brexit.
It is now interesting to see how things are looking economically in Great Britain years later.
With the exception of the Brexit hardliners, many Britons have woken up in the meantime - but now it's too late...
in sweden we got freedom to roam too meaning we can walk anywhere we want that is not private land which is rare as not much is privatly owned and i could walk across someones backyard to get somewhere faster if i want to even if its frowned upon from the house owner its not illegal to do so
Yes, Sweden is an example in that. Right to Roam. Allmansretten? But knowing the swedes, you would not do it. Happened to me in Germany by a woman walking through our very big Garden.
If we could get people to respect nature more, we should do that in Germany too!
On the other hand, Germany is much denser populated..lemme check..population density Sweden: 24/sqKm, Germany 236/sqKm so about ten times as dense populated..maybe that is not feasible in Germany ;-)
@@RealMash can work anywhere its all about respecting that you are walking on someone property and just walk by without damaging anything or steal ofc.
My daughter finished her studies as an animal doctor 8 months ago in Austria. She looked for a job in austria and germany and decided on the best offer and this was in Germany. So all she had to do was look for an apartment there and start the job, nothing different or more than if she had taken a job in any city in Austria!
Yea, its like you said, we tryes to make it like in USA!
Freedom of movment for goods, people, investments and services!
Its cald the Shengen agreement, and it altso includes countrys that not EU members, but have association agreement with EU!
To make it complicated to understand for "Americans", there is even more, like the Nordic council agreement, for Nordic country citicens!
Its this that we are still indipendent countrys.. and EU, Shengen, other agreements, sets comon minimal laws/rules that make it easyer to be an European citicen and move around, and get treated as a european citicen in all those countryes!
The promise is like.. we treath you like we treath our own citicens! Just be aware that different countrys treath there citicens in different ways!
For a lot us in Europe, it's not that easy to go overseas to North America either. Never been there, but I've been to several countries in Europe. Denmark, Norway, Germany, Belgium, France, UK, Greece, Spain, Italy and Bulgaria. Some of them more than once. Since I'm from Sweden, it's very simple to travel in the Scandinavian countries. (Even if Norway is not a part of the EU).
The last one of the European countries I've been to is the UK. Family trip to London. My oldest daughter loves the UK and wants to be an exchange student there. She's going to high school in August. But she'll probably wait until collage to study abroad.
Great reaction!
Greetings from Sweden!🇸🇪
It’s still possible to travel to the UK and vice versa but a passport and a Visa are needed now, so it’s not as easy and if you get a job in the UK, you will have to comply with all the hurdles of immigration.I lived, studied and worked in 4 European countries, I just needed my ID and to declare my new residence and find a place to rent. I didn’t do Erasmus but that’s a nice way to study abroad.
In Europe before the Schengen Agreement in 1985 - realistically it was only mostly fully implemented by 1999. Which saw the dismantling of the individual boarder crossings, prior to that time, each country had its boarder crossing and you would have to queue up for sometimes hours to drive through the country.
You would have banks or exchange facilities just inside the boarder crossing where people would have to exchange money to the local currency. So we that travelled or drove throughout Europe would have many currencies in their possession so they didn’t have to exchange currency on every boarder.
Obviously some countries were easier than others. Meaning the time delay at the boarder would be shorter or longer depending on which country they’re coming from and into.
If you were on the train. The train would stop at the boarder and immigration officers from that country would walk through the train checking passports and visas if required. Obviously the train stopping at each individual boarder would take time. Once all passengers and if required the relevant customs stuff was done. The train would be allowed to continue.
Ah, the good old days….😂
Talking about crossing borders. EU inside has two systems for lack of the better term.
One is Schengen. Schengen means that 99% of the time you cross the border without any stopping, just a "Welcome to XYZ" sign.
Non schengen countries have border and passport control. Although for EU members it is enough to have an ID card, no passport.
And then there are non EU European countries. I've travelled 1700 miles in 3 days. Crossing 4 Schengen borders, one non Schengen border and 3 non EU borders. In reality non Schengen and non EU borders are the same, usually small line of cars, wait for 10-30minutes, present your passport on exit of country A and move a long to country B entry present passport again rarely open your boot and you are in.
Longest line I've been waiting in was around 5 hours, ±7-8 years back on Serbia (non EU) and Hungary (Schengen) boarder. But main issue was many Turkish people were coming back from holidays in Turkey and Hungary border patrol were searching cars and checking passports. Because cars were absolutely loaded to the roof and many people were "mix" in cars, meaning some of travellers had German passports, other had Turkish. But when we get to the front lines - Boarder patrol saw our number plates and not even checked passports.
to study to a different country there are some practical issues. There's usually a language barrier, even for higher education where a lot (but not all) classes are in English. School system differ quite a lot so you might miss some basics but, but you can study where you like. The EU is based on 4 freedoms: freedom of goods, services, capital and persons
I am irish and I have worked in 5 different European countries within the past 8 years. My niece is currently studying in Germany and its free. There are some countries like Switzerland where there is no border but you can't work there long-term
Just for context, this is a political / campaign video to try to get people to vote against Brexit, but they did a quite bad job at this. In any case, they are just talking about the "freedom of movement" that comes with EU citizenship, which is not very much different from the USA, at the difference that the USA is a single country, and the EU is a sort of supra citizenship across multiple countries, maybe the Mercosur would provide for something a bit more like the EU freedom of movement
Well, as a member of the EU (a citizen of an EU country) we can visit the UK but we cannot live there if we want after Brexit. Now it is much harder for the farmers of the UK to get the seasonal labor they need. They used to easily get people from Eastern Europe to work in the UK, now they can do that only with a lot of paperwork and hassle. Most don't bother.
Lo bueno es conocer personalmente a tus vecinos europeos, crea confianza y afecto. Y se confraterniza. Los europeos occidentales somos más ,,"amigos".
Viajamos juntos, vivimos en el mismo barrio o edificio, en la playa, discoteca, restaurante. Hacemos negocios y encontranos pareja.😂