I’m sad Jonas wasn’t really able to get the ending he deserved. No one really talks about how tragic his life really was. He should have been a normal kid grown up gone to college maybe get married and have kids. He didn’t get to experience any of that and instead spent years trying to fix something that was unfixable and always stuck in the wrong time
SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3 FINALE! Well there's a theory that Marek and Sonja are Jonas and Martha (MArek Tanhhaus = Marta, Sonja is an anagram of Jonas). People theorize that in a Spiritual sense Jonas and Martha returned to their "original forms" when they saved them at the end of Season 3. So in a way Jonas and Martha could have normal lives in a way. At least that's what I tell myself to not feel crushing despair when I think of the end of this series.🙃
@@SpySoundKiller we can see in the last scene origin world Hannah was going to name her son Jonas maybe Martha will be born later and they'll have a normal life
Jonas suffered the most. He might existed in various timeline simultaneously to watch the horror and havock time causes and witnessed how many people sacrificed for the cause.
@@WindspriteM yeah if I had to chose which jonas to be it would prob be the one that went to Martha’s world at least he died quickly so he didn’t have to suffer for the rest of his life
I think Regina suffered the most. She never did anything worse than raising her voice, but she was regularly neglected, bullied, falsely accused, and even dosed with cancer-causing radiation.
@@AdrianColley yes she also suffered a lot but not in the way and extent of Jonas .Time screwed jonas in a way that his love was his aunt and his father is basically used to be kid and jonas learn all this with time.Again its beautiful show and in the end all these four families went through a actual hell.
After the apocalypse, the timeline divides in 3 switch points: Timeline 1: Jonas survives the apocalypse hiding in the basement. Then, he and Claudia pass the last 32 years trying to activate the god particle, he becomes the stranger and travels to 2019 to help his younger self in cycle 1. In the apocalypse, he travels to 1888 and he is trapped in this time, 33 years later, he becomes Adam. Timeline 2: In the day of the Apocalypse, Jonas is waiting to his death. Then, Alt Martha appears and takes him to her world. Jonas finds out that the apocalypse happens in this world too by Eva in 3 days. He tries to convince Martha from this world about the end and the duo discover a secret that changes everything: Eva use Jonas because she know that Jonas was the one who led her to become the woman they see now. After that, Alt Martha shoots Jonas and a devasted Martha is with him, know that this event she turns into Eva. Timeline 3: On the day of the apocalypse, Jonas is surprised when Adam shows up. Then, they travel to Eva's world and Adam tells Jonas about the only way to destroy the knot once and for all. Jonas finds Alt Martha and the duo travel to the original world, where they avoid Tannhaus's family car accident. After this, Tannhaus never creates the time machine (which is the main cause that created the both worlds), so Jonas and Martha, their adult versions, Adam and Eve too, are erased from existence.
But if car accident never occurs then tanhhous never made that machine and nothing happend at all .. mean no jonas no martha .. then who the hell came back in original world to stop the car accident?
Aman Kumar it created a different timeline in the origin world itself where Tanhaus creation indirectly saved his family. They went in the past where Tanhaus is yet to create a Time Machine . Origin world has now become Schrödinger’s cat where Tanhaus family is both alive and dead at the same time resulting in different timelines.
TBH the only reason why I decided to watch this masterpiece is Jonas Kahnwald himself and I'm glad I did. I was scrolling through Netflix back in 2020 due to covid and quarantine and I saw him in yellow raincoat jacket so I clicked (I have the yellow raincoat jacket too). Now after I finished the series I really want to give Jonas and Mikkel a big hug it's so hard seeing them in season 2 episode 6.
Congratulations. Your work is fantastic. But I think you miss one scene: the one that shows Jonas taking Mikkel to the cave. It was, probably, during the time he spent learnning everything with Claudia (the 12 months).
Jonas fate in Own world: Survives, grows old and becomes Adam Alt World: Gets shot by Martha and Dies Origin World: Saves the world Martha fate in Alt world: Survives, grows old and becomes Eva Jonas World: Gets murdered by Jonas and Dies Origin World: Saves the world This show is a masterpiece!!!🤯
I have often thought how tragic is the fate of Jonas, I feel sorry for him, I return to this series always when I am sad, or hopelessness if there is on my soul, a lot of revisited s2e6. if we say that everything is predetermined in every fate in the darkness, it is true, but all the life that you live you feel all the same as your own, but another thing is to know what will be your life and try to change that, which in the end will be another reason for such a future.
that must occur during the year he spends with claudia between leaving with her after michael's suicide and fetching her younger self in '87, right??? when do you think they spent the rest of that year? it can't have (all) been in 2052/3 because they don't seem to have overlapped with his younger self when he was doing his survivalist thing....
He even acknowledged that Hannah and Ulrich were having an affair. It makes me wonder how he found out. Did he get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom and hear moaning coming from Hannah's bedroom or something? Then again, they also do it early in the morning, so would he get woken up by it too?
I think there's a scene missing here in this timeline between after Jonas joins future Claudia in 20 June, 2019 (15:18-15:27) and before Jonas meets past Claudia in 1987 (15:27-16:15) and I believe that's when Jonas sends young Mikkel to the past on 4 November, 2019
11:56 when in 2053 jonas enter in the particle god, why does he travel back in 1921? We know that the 33 years restriction is only for the machine and the passage in the cave, but why specifically in 1921? I don’t think he set up that time because he wanted to come back in 2020, someone else set it up in order to let him meet adam?
Jonas and Marthas end is so great and so sad at the same time because the only thing i wanted for them is that they are together and can live a peaceful life. I hope they do in the origin world
I could do without the 2minutes of kissing. I happen to know what that is. When I watch a video on the best slow burn, sci-fi of all time- I DONT NEED to sit & LiSTEN to them kiss also. Neither of these things help with the entire rest of the Narrative.
After old Claudia takes Jonas from leaving his father( when he realizes it's himself that causes his father to suicide himself so that he exists), she leads him to the moment exactly for him to catch Mikkel to the caves. Then they spend the whole night there until they split up to their destiny.
@@radhiadeedou8286 No I mean the young jonas from the last episode when older Jonas and alt Martha went through the time tunnel to prevent the car crash
@DA VEGAN STUFF maybe I forget something, but I’m pretty sure she find it in jonas room in the Summer of 2020, before travelling back to 1987 looking for ulrich. So I suppose Mikkel/Michael did it trying to come back in 2019, in fact it was find by jonas in his office under the roof
No because she did it involuntarily... jonas's older self exists already so he can't die and if he tries to die or is in danger of dying in any way hell be saved by someone or something will happen specifically so he can survive
Maybe Elisabeth was ordered to do that so that just like Adam Jonas would also get the scar around this neck? Because just after this he travels to 1921 where he meets Adam for the first time and Adam shows his own scar around his neck, implying that Jonas is Adam.
Umm I thought the time Adam saved Jonas before Apocalypse happened for the first time. And before that all the time it was just two realities where in one Jonas was saved by alt Martha and in the other Jonas hid in the basement. So you're saying that this Jonas 3 (third reality) has also happened all the time?
Michael Committing Suicide to send Jonas on the Right path doesn't make much sense. Even the Killing of Martha by Adam to make Jonas go through the same pain as he once did doesn't make sense.
If Michael wouldn't have committed suicide jonas would have never suffered from stress and would have never been in the nut house for months ,martha and jonas would have never broken up and then jonas wouldn't be jonas then ..past would have been changed if his father wouldn't have commited suicide .....and martha being killed was necessary because 1- it always has happened 2- jonas wouldn't be jonas then and eventually he wouldn't become adam.
@@animeshindwar4040 Yes, you're right but I distinctly remember Michael telling Jonas "But if I don't commit suicide, you won't be ever born!" How does that make sense?
@@harshchhangani If he doesn't kill him self Jonas never find out time travel and mikkel would never be born because Agnes Nielsen Who is Mother of tronte would not be born either and tronte is ulrichs father agnes is daugther of Silja and Silja is daugther of hannah and hannah would never had Silja if time travel never existed
How can you understand if you only watch the last 3 episodes and why would you even care since you don't know anything about the characters? Why even bother actually, just ask someone how it ends
Sorry, I must've been in a weird mood or replying to a different comment because even I can't make sense of what I have written. S3 definitely felt different but so does S2 from S1 IMO. The unique nature of the show means that, any stride toward clichés and tropes from more mainstream styles, results in an apparent change. There's also the pacing... Overall, the pacing of each successive season increases so that it can climax (emotionally & mentally, not in terms of action and events). I didn't feel disappointed with the show and I felt as though they tied every single thing up very well. Perhaps many gaps were quietly filled-in and they might've gone unnoticed, leading to the feeling that the interweaving of the story sorry of died away. I can understand that. Each season also tends to focus on a different abstract message although I can't really tell you what each one is, which might be the show's fault.
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I’m sad Jonas wasn’t really able to get the ending he deserved. No one really talks about how tragic his life really was. He should have been a normal kid grown up gone to college maybe get married and have kids. He didn’t get to experience any of that and instead spent years trying to fix something that was unfixable and always stuck in the wrong time
SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3 FINALE! Well there's a theory that Marek and Sonja are Jonas and Martha (MArek Tanhhaus = Marta, Sonja is an anagram of Jonas). People theorize that in a Spiritual sense Jonas and Martha returned to their "original forms" when they saved them at the end of Season 3. So in a way Jonas and Martha could have normal lives in a way. At least that's what I tell myself to not feel crushing despair when I think of the end of this series.🙃
@@SpySoundKiller we can see in the last scene origin world Hannah was going to name her son Jonas maybe Martha will be born later and they'll have a normal life
@@SpySoundKiller I see what you’re saying but that’s just lame.
Nah, the father of hannahs child is not mikkel, so no jonas
That was just a tribute to Jonas
@@SpySoundKiller def heavily implied. I would like to think it was the originally Jonas and Martha
Oh no, poor Jonas smiling at Martha while biking to the lake and not knowing how dark everything is about to get T.T
The lake her grandma died in? Lucky he didn't swim though.
Which episode is it?
@@ayeskidman9269 2x6 "Ein unendlicher Kreis"
I don't think I can ever get over how beautiful and tragic this story is
"In order for time travel to be prevented from getting invented, there has to already be time travel in place". The show's ultimate paradox.
Let me make it simpler:
"The day that time travel is invented, it has already existed".
Jonas suffered the most. He might existed in various timeline simultaneously to watch the horror and havock time causes and witnessed how many people sacrificed for the cause.
although I wouldn't mind being Alt-Universe Jonas... at least he has the perfect sex with Martha before his execution day
@@WindspriteM yeah if I had to chose which jonas to be it would prob be the one that went to Martha’s world at least he died quickly so he didn’t have to suffer for the rest of his life
I think Regina suffered the most. She never did anything worse than raising her voice, but she was regularly neglected, bullied, falsely accused, and even dosed with cancer-causing radiation.
@@AdrianColley yes she also suffered a lot but not in the way and extent of Jonas .Time screwed jonas in a way that his love was his aunt and his father is basically used to be kid and jonas learn all this with time.Again its beautiful show and in the end all these four families went through a actual hell.
@@TheUnknown-yx8zc yea also he got to have sex with Martha that's a plus point
After the apocalypse, the timeline divides in 3 switch points:
Timeline 1: Jonas survives the apocalypse hiding in the basement. Then, he and Claudia pass the last 32 years trying to activate the god particle, he becomes the stranger and travels to 2019 to help his younger self in cycle 1. In the apocalypse, he travels to 1888 and he is trapped in this time, 33 years later, he becomes Adam.
Timeline 2: In the day of the Apocalypse, Jonas is waiting to his death. Then, Alt Martha appears and takes him to her world. Jonas finds out that the apocalypse happens in this world too by Eva in 3 days. He tries to convince Martha from this world about the end and the duo discover a secret that changes everything: Eva use Jonas because she know that Jonas was the one who led her to become the woman they see now.
After that, Alt Martha shoots Jonas and a devasted Martha is with him, know that this event she turns into Eva.
Timeline 3: On the day of the apocalypse, Jonas is surprised when Adam shows up. Then, they travel to Eva's world and Adam tells Jonas about the only way to destroy the knot once and for all.
Jonas finds Alt Martha and the duo travel to the original world, where they avoid Tannhaus's family car accident. After this, Tannhaus never creates the time machine (which is the main cause that created the both worlds), so Jonas and Martha, their adult versions, Adam and Eve too, are erased from existence.
Perfect explaination
Timeline 4: I will cry a lot ;)
But if car accident never occurs then tanhhous never made that machine and nothing happend at all .. mean no jonas no martha .. then who the hell came back in original world to stop the car accident?
@@AmanKumar-nr5go that's another paradox in the series
Aman Kumar it created a different timeline in the origin world itself where Tanhaus creation indirectly saved his family. They went in the past where Tanhaus is yet to create a Time Machine . Origin world has now become Schrödinger’s cat where Tanhaus family is both alive and dead at the same time resulting in different timelines.
Poor dude, he went trough a lot that’s why he lost his mind
Jonas literally witnessed himself slowly becoming the version of him which he truly hated. Says a lot about his arc.
TBH the only reason why I decided to watch this masterpiece is Jonas Kahnwald himself and I'm glad I did. I was scrolling through Netflix back in 2020 due to covid and quarantine and I saw him in yellow raincoat jacket so I clicked (I have the yellow raincoat jacket too). Now after I finished the series I really want to give Jonas and Mikkel a big hug it's so hard seeing them in season 2 episode 6.
17:47 Adam looking like Darth Vader there
20 June 2019 the only happy day where Jonas smile
9:08 13:21
*"Who are you?"*
*"Don't you know?"*
*"I am you"*
Are Martha and Jonas basically the 21st century Romeo and Juliet?
yes
More like 21st century adam and eva
@@finleydavies-heath4340 Well, yes and no, since Eva is just one of the distinct versions of Martha
or Oedipus and Jocasta
2:45 14:58 "Ultimate fist bump" words that will haunt Mikkel forever
This is such a tremendous help. Thank you!
Congratulations. Your work is fantastic. But I think you miss one scene: the one that shows Jonas taking Mikkel to the cave. It was, probably, during the time he spent learnning everything with Claudia (the 12 months).
As i said in another response,i couldn't introduce it because of copyright
Jonas fate in
Own world: Survives, grows old and becomes Adam
Alt World: Gets shot by Martha and Dies
Origin World: Saves the world
Martha fate in
Alt world: Survives, grows old and becomes Eva
Jonas World: Gets murdered by Jonas and Dies
Origin World: Saves the world
This show is a masterpiece!!!🤯
putting it in chronological order really puts it in perspective how quickly this all happened for Jonas
Yes, Louis Hoffman is perfect to play older Jemmy Fraser in Outlander. Jemmy is Brianna's son and Jamie's grandson
I have often thought how tragic is the fate of Jonas, I feel sorry for him, I return to this series always when I am sad, or hopelessness if there is on my soul, a lot of revisited s2e6. if we say that everything is predetermined in every fate in the darkness, it is true, but all the life that you live you feel all the same as your own, but another thing is to know what will be your life and try to change that, which in the end will be another reason for such a future.
Thus the history created.
Thank you for making this!😍😍
Too bad you didn't put the moment where Jonas get back to the 4th of November 2019 to get Mikkel through the cave
Great video anyway
couldn't do it because of copyright.
@@DARK-zv4cl Oh ! I see, that's sad
@@DARK-zv4cl wait this isnt the official channel?
that must occur during the year he spends with claudia between leaving with her after michael's suicide and fetching her younger self in '87, right??? when do you think they spent the rest of that year? it can't have (all) been in 2052/3 because they don't seem to have overlapped with his younger self when he was doing his survivalist thing....
@@aryangupta8150 not official. Fan made.
Thank you so much, author. Ама aware of whole plot of Dark from now on
I need Mikkel POV. I'm in love with young Mikkel. He's cute and sweet.
8:38 love how blunt Jonas is with how fucked up his bloodline is
He even acknowledged that Hannah and Ulrich were having an affair. It makes me wonder how he found out. Did he get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom and hear moaning coming from Hannah's bedroom or something? Then again, they also do it early in the morning, so would he get woken up by it too?
The show ended a few weeks ago but I miss them already, unfortunately the end wasn't very clear for Jonas and Martha
will there be season 4?
@@dataduchessofhastings8240 sadly, no
they have the best chemistry
ALL THE EVENTS IN DARK HAPPENING IN REAL LIFE CUZ LIFE IS KEEP CYCLING AS LONG AS EARTH KEEP SPINNING !!
What's the name of the Violin theme that plays from 12:01?
I think there's a scene missing here in this timeline between after Jonas joins future Claudia in 20 June, 2019 (15:18-15:27) and before Jonas meets past Claudia in 1987 (15:27-16:15) and I believe that's when Jonas sends young Mikkel to the past on 4 November, 2019
I LOVE THIS
İm waiting for Mikkel/Michael
Me too
11:56 when in 2053 jonas enter in the particle god, why does he travel back in 1921? We know that the 33 years restriction is only for the machine and the passage in the cave, but why specifically in 1921? I don’t think he set up that time because he wanted to come back in 2020, someone else set it up in order to let him meet adam?
Penso che sia stato Adam dall'altra parte ad attivare la sua particle god per creare una sorta di risonanza e farlo atterrare lì
Great Video
Show is basically just a giant fantasy of Tannhause
14:07 Alt-Martha's god particle right? Now i understand when Adam says that this god particle is a twin one from 2053.
He was talking about the one Jonas ans Claudia stabilized on the post apocalypse .
9:48 little did he know Jonas met his half-sister/great-great-great grandmother
Jonas and Marthas end is so great and so sad at the same time because the only thing i wanted for them is that they are together and can live a peaceful life. I hope they do in the origin world
Do one for Martha / Eva too
15:26 is it between these two scenes that he will kidnap Mikkel in 2019 ???
Yes,couldn't introduce it in the video because of copyright.
OK thanks...
Yep
Which is the music from 0:01 ?
9:00 soundtrack name pls
Oke jyst randomly thinking, but if they just gave jonas a condom so that martha shouldn't get pregnant 😂😂 much better than the killing
Does anyone have a link to the soundtrack played at the very beginning of that video?
Apparat's 'Goodbye'
15:19 song???????
Asaf Avidan - twisted olive branch
@@sarahh.616 dankeeee
I'm the only one who doesn't understand why Jonas has dark hair and eyes in adulthood?
I could do without the 2minutes of kissing. I happen to know what that is. When I watch a video on the best slow burn, sci-fi of all time- I DONT NEED to sit & LiSTEN to them kiss also. Neither of these things help with the entire rest of the Narrative.
12:00 What's the name of this theme?
how could Jonas travel from 1921 to 2019? (14:15) It is not multiple of 33. [1921+3*33 = 2020]
In 1921 Adam has mastered time travel to the point where he can send people anytime he pleases
Only the wormhole in the tunnel is bound by the 33-year rule
@@PetersonSilva okay I missed that thank you :)
@@PetersonSilva the tannhaus suitcase is also bound to the 33 years
@@MCDreng That's true, thank you!
Please, does anyone know which Jonas takes Mikkel to the caves?
After old Claudia takes Jonas from leaving his father( when he realizes it's himself that causes his father to suicide himself so that he exists), she leads him to the moment exactly for him to catch Mikkel to the caves. Then they spend the whole night there until they split up to their destiny.
Sepertinya terlewat timeline ketika Jonas narik mikkel ke dalam goa.
I need it for Marta!
If you need this to fully understand the show. The show is not for you. Cinematography and the pacing make the show what it is....
I don't think fans of the show need this to understand, it's just nice to see things from different perspectives
It's like what fans will do after the show they are just enjoying
Well, why are you watching it then mister big dark brain?
What about the young Jonas?
???
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 the little Jonas from the timetunnel thing
@@BobAndrews69 are you talking about mikkel?
@@radhiadeedou8286 No I mean the young jonas from the last episode when older Jonas and alt Martha went through the time tunnel to prevent the car crash
Sry for my bad English :)
Music 1.40??
Who hid the map that Jonas find?
His dad, he probably made it when he was trying to go back to his time
@DA VEGAN STUFF maybe I forget something, but I’m pretty sure she find it in jonas room in the Summer of 2020, before travelling back to 1987 looking for ulrich.
So I suppose Mikkel/Michael did it trying to come back in 2019, in fact it was find by jonas in his office under the roof
11:30 elizabeth knew that he was adan??, thats why she could not killn him
No because she did it involuntarily... jonas's older self exists already so he can't die and if he tries to die or is in danger of dying in any way hell be saved by someone or something will happen specifically so he can survive
Maybe Elisabeth was ordered to do that so that just like Adam Jonas would also get the scar around this neck? Because just after this he travels to 1921 where he meets Adam for the first time and Adam shows his own scar around his neck, implying that Jonas is Adam.
Umm I thought the time Adam saved Jonas before Apocalypse happened for the first time. And before that all the time it was just two realities where in one Jonas was saved by alt Martha and in the other Jonas hid in the basement.
So you're saying that this Jonas 3 (third reality) has also happened all the time?
Uh, no? It did happen the first time, its just kind of hard to show 3 alternate timelines in one video
technically this isn't chronological
Sure it is. But it's by reference to the proper time of Jonas, not to Earth proper time.
How did he travel from 20 june 2019 to 1987
Old Claudia gave him the apparatus before she died
what about baby jonas?
WPM.NBAE 😍
Michael Committing Suicide to send Jonas on the Right path doesn't make much sense.
Even the Killing of Martha by Adam to make Jonas go through the same pain as he once did doesn't make sense.
I guess it's because if Michael doesn't kill himself Jonas doesn't find the map of the caves
If Michael wouldn't have committed suicide jonas would have never suffered from stress and would have never been in the nut house for months ,martha and jonas would have never broken up and then jonas wouldn't be jonas then ..past would have been changed if his father wouldn't have commited suicide .....and martha being killed was necessary because 1- it always has happened 2- jonas wouldn't be jonas then and eventually he wouldn't become adam.
@@animeshindwar4040 Yes, you're right but I distinctly remember Michael telling Jonas "But if I don't commit suicide, you won't be ever born!" How does that make sense?
@@harshchhangani If he doesn't kill him self Jonas never find out time travel and mikkel would never be born because Agnes Nielsen Who is Mother of tronte would not be born either and tronte is ulrichs father agnes is daugther of Silja and Silja is daugther of hannah and hannah would never had Silja if time travel never existed
Good show! i recommend just watching the final 3 episodes. Get to the end, sooner, wich is the interesting part.
How can you understand if you only watch the last 3 episodes and why would you even care since you don't know anything about the characters? Why even bother actually, just ask someone how it ends
I am absolutely disappointed with season 3. It changed sensitivity, much fell flat.
You don't deserve to understand it. The pacing of each show ramped up to a climax.
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Dude, I loved it but shut the F up... People have the right to like or not like smth 😂😂😂
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming he didn't say he didn't understand, he didn't like it and there's nothing wrong with that
Sorry, I must've been in a weird mood or replying to a different comment because even I can't make sense of what I have written.
S3 definitely felt different but so does S2 from S1 IMO. The unique nature of the show means that, any stride toward clichés and tropes from more mainstream styles, results in an apparent change.
There's also the pacing... Overall, the pacing of each successive season increases so that it can climax (emotionally & mentally, not in terms of action and events). I didn't feel disappointed with the show and I felt as though they tied every single thing up very well. Perhaps many gaps were quietly filled-in and they might've gone unnoticed, leading to the feeling that the interweaving of the story sorry of died away. I can understand that.
Each season also tends to focus on a different abstract message although I can't really tell you what each one is, which might be the show's fault.