Germany's State Election Results Explained
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German States, Thuringia and Saxony, went to the polls this Sunday and the results are NOT good for Scholz. AfD and BSW (Sarha Wagenknecht) have taken the election by storm and this might be the start of political change in Germany. This video will explain the election results.
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Mistake: Spelling and pronounciation of Thuringia. Sorry for writing it as "Thurungia". It was late and I am used to the German way of saying it: Thüringen.
32.8% of 29 seats = 9.5 seats. Your model does NOT reflect the proportionality the AfD should have been allowed. Please clarify.
@@VeniVidiVici456Thanks Heaps for pointing This Anomaly out; Giving The AfD the Cold 🥶 Shoulder contravenes The fundamental Principle of DEMOCRACY; Regards Dave McC
Ground news is funded by Jeffrey’s money…
*No apology necessary. Regardless of pronunciation, everyone here knows what you meant. Now, if you can just wean yourself off that "far-right" BS media trope we'll be friends. Prozit!*
@@blackrifle6736 get lost.
After the situation in Solingen, Germany, there is no doubt why they chose that party. People want to be heard, but the parties never listen and do whatever they want.
And then they will elect new parties that will then themselves become the useless establishment, and the cycle will continue.
@@THEBEEEANSS The AFD are direct descendants to what became the worst party in German history, so yeah they're gonna just Genocide 6 million people again.
This criminal migrant has done enormous damage to Germany, not only the terribly killing of 3 people and injuring 8.
Now the German politics will have to turn against migrants.
The Mannheim incident also
@@Frankie._.164 and in Frankfurt am Main
I can't understand how the CDU is so insurmountable. Their asylum policies since the Syrian refugee crisis threw the entire continent into chaos.
And chaos is heresy to Humanity.
Maybe there are people that disagree with the worldview of the greens and SPD and the FDP, that are conservative, but do not want an ethnostate with potentially mass deportations. Who want to hold on to the EU and not submit to putins ambitions.
PNAC work so well for the EU, while the US 😔😔😀🥶
It was and is US/EU who provoke refugees from all over the world.
CDU has always been more conservative than it seemed, it's just that they went along with Merkel for the most part since she has been the face of the party and their guarantee to win the government over and over.
I think it's kinda similar to Trump and the Republicans, if he were to step down or die the party would change significantly too imo, probably back to what it was before 2015/16.
As I see it, voters around all of the EU are unhappy with illegal mass migration. So we should jointly change the EU treaties where necessary to ensure that border security gets priority over the right to asylum. And skilled immigrants from non-EU countries should be closely vetted with a points system like in Canada or Australia.
racist
Basically the same situation is happening here in the USA
@@EurovisionESC Sarcasm, isn't it?
Those treaties should have never been passed.
@@FrankyS74 Either that or retardation.
The German political establishment condemned the AFD as Hitlerian, but the BSW which is actually describable as "German National Socialism" gets a free pass
It is called hypocrisy
Lmao it’s in the name
The whole party is basically a cult of personality around Sahra Wagenknecht, a clever and charismatic politician. She is also a permanent guest on talk shows, where no presenter can hold a candle to her.
I am a foreigner who is living in Saxony. Saxony is the camp of AfD. To be honest, I have never met any situation with racism and discrimination here. I can’t speak German well, all the people here try their best to communicate with us, the elder neighbours always smile to us and use google translate to talk to us. The work efficiency of immigration office here has been the best compared to any other place I lived in Europe. I enjoy living here. I think it is not fair to call the people here “far-right “ or “Nazi” even if they support AfD. The government should reflect on the mistakes in their work that disappointed the people, instead of accusing the people of supporting "Nazis". After all, you don't care about the problems that many people are eager to solve, so the AfD has an opportunity to take advantage of it. Although I don't think the AfD can solve the current predicament, at least it has an attitude. The current government doesn't even have an attitude. It is you who pushed the people who once supported you to the AfD, and you can't blame anyone else.
but it's easier to call the others names than to try to listen to them and deal with their worries.
that's how the established left acts all over Europe, they call everyone else far-right and so they don't have to listen to "those" people.
they often really think that if you ignore people with other stances/worries eventually they will come over and start voting for your party.
instead the parties on the right keep growing and eventually become large enough to make it into the government (coalition),
and then the left somehow is shocked about the election results.
the only ones to blame for the rising right is the inactive, deaf left.
Danke. Danke
Agree. Many of those in the comments section are clueless.
You know, it doesn't matter who wins the election. It does matter what kind of perception is set up by the society... If I am being hated as a different skin color person, even though I pay same taxes and put my productive years into development of this country then what's the point of staying here?
But the problem is that its the Afd who has direct links with Nazism. Its not calling people Nazis, its stated the fact that they voted for Hitlers successor
I do not understand why Germans still vote CDU it is not the same party of yesterday .
Yes but AFD is too radical on some things and some of their members are neo-nazis.
Meanwhile CDU is better than under Merkel, it had a shift to a more conservative party. Of I were German, I wouldn't trust any of them. It's a tough choice.
Because majority of the Germans are old and the old ones always voted for CDU/CSU
Because it’s the only sane one- spd used to be but they’re now fked up
@@leojin5838At least, that's what the right wing wants you to believe. I don't love SPD either, especially Scholz is a terrible choice, but CDU or AfD seem a lot more f'ed up to me.
Same with Conservative and Labour in Britain. But people still vote for them.
We have the same problems in the UK, the Tories and Labour do not listen to the people. Both Parties have failed miserably , they have not improved the quality of life, or the standard of living of the people and they will pay for it at the next election.
Labour has barely begun.
Vote reform
@@kianlakchi7182 Off to a terrible start.
5 years away. Not soon. We elected successive governments and their policies. The public should take some ownership and responsibility.
@@fredgarvinMP ... yeah
Forming a coalition against AFD is only going to make them more popular. They are an opposition party. The worst thing for an opposition party is winning because they have to move from complaining about problems to fixing them. Forming a coalition against the AFD lets the AFD enjoy the bandwagon effect of being popular because they are popular without them having the burden of actually having to govern well.
Accurate.
In France the government is at a standstill because of the temporary coalition between Macrons party and the far left. Now the 'far right' is able to say they'd have done a better job if the election hadn't been stolen by an unethical deal that has led to gridlock.
The ADF would probably love a similar result, so the next election they get a large enough majority to really take control.
And with the added benefit for the AfD that they rack up experience in the system and will be less bad at governing in the future.
Imo the right thing to do would be a coalition of AfD and BSW in one of the countries. That would most likely drop support for both nationwide.
I agree. In Italy Meloni' government is proving uncapable to rule now that they are in power. They had to change their program on many things. Meloni used to say no immigrants, and she has invited more immigrants than any government before. She used to be anti-EU and now she is EU's darling lol She used to be anti USA and I have never seen an Italian PM more subservient than Meloni with Biden. She wanted to abolish Italian regions (there are 20), and she just gave them more autonomy and power. I can go on and on. Let the far right govern for a couple of years, they are incapable because either they become moderate (like Meloni) or they fail. Also, Meloni's coalition is falling apart from the inside because none of those people have experience, they are making a mess. Voters are not happy on neither side. The Left can easily win next elections if they dont screw it up at the last minute. They have the numbers. The far right wins when people do not go to vote.😅
@@JessicaDainese The example I thought of was the FPÖ in Austria. Got into government and immediatley was embroiled in one corruption scandal after the other. And not just any scandals. But corruption done incompetently. Embarassing as hell and the government failed.
It didn't stop the party, but it severly blunted them for a number of years.
@@KityKatKiller oh ok, I do not know much about politics in Austria tbh. Fratelli d'Italia is buried in scandals and corruption too, but which Italian party isnt?? People unfortunately kinda got used to it, so it's not a shock when we find out. Its kind of expected. Which is even worse. Voters dont get angry anymore, there is alot of apathy. Its very frustrating.
AfD: "far right". BSW: "left conservative". A little bit biased are we?
Not biased, just the truth.
First time Europe has seen a real Conservative Party in years, and you guys instantly shout “1930s”!!!!
What do you expect from a “european politics themed” channel
AfD is right-populist. Also note, that the AfD is lead by a Lesbian, married to a Sri-Lankian that lives in Switzerland to save taxes.
Menwhile the Actual Far-Right (NPD and Freie Sachsen) launch a campaigne against homoseual in Bautzen.
@@RightyAllrighty That's the second time (now). The first was in the 1930-s. And we know what happened after that... You can't keep things the same forever. It's not even physically possible. That's why to "conserve" things is a lost cause in the long run. And expensive (not only monetary speaking) one too.
Germans have the right to elect who they think is better for their country.
that worked out well in 1933
Like they did with Hitler
Nobody's challenging that lol. Of course they have the right to do that. People are questioning how intelligent the choice is.
@@grapesurgeon A very smart choice.
@@radwooah agree to disagree
Shutting out a major voice of the people in Germany, as in France, UK, or Sweden, will only make the people voice their discontent even louder. This surging voice cannot be disregarded.
It is only because of migration. Most people don't support nazis but want their voice heard on migration issues.
@@Anthony-db7cs Germany and the west have been supporting Nazi's in Ukraine since 2014. I do not think the AFD comes close to fascist dictatorship in Ukraine. They are wanting to end the war, if they were truly Nazi's they would want to continue the fight against Russia, just like Hitler
@@Anthony-db7cs I completely agree with your assessment.
However, I suspect it could be better to let the Afd govern Thuringia, so that people see that this is worse. Extremists are ALWAYS worse, ever had been.
@@krollpeter The problem is how do you get rid of a dictatorship once it has replaced a democracy.
You have an Ukraine flag. You’re part of the establishment, champ.
I think Germany has had enough of illegal immigration, as well as the way their country is ran, like a lot of the EU
I think Germany has had enough of legal immigration of specific types of people.
If thats true, can you explain why the states where the Afd won have the lowest immigration?
Its islam mate
@@user-bn5tu2kz6c states where the Afd got the most votes have the least immigrants ant the least islam believers. If the main reason to vote for Afd are immigrants data shows people who are voting to solve the "problem" have never seen the "problem" so ist just unfounded fear
You said the AfD is far right. Is it really or has politics in Germany shifted so far left that any party right of center is considered far right?
No. The german far right is far right. They want a fourth Reich. A totalitarian Germany with all the horrors that comes with it.
For the most part they seem just right wing. A few members and allies have used slogans formerly used by the Naz!'s, but the policies they promote aren't anything that would make a moderate fearful or even really concerned.
They are far right, in fact they are extremely far right.
Höcke, the leading candidate of the AfD in Thuringia, as well as their whole party, is legally considered
a right wing extremist group by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution of Germany.
Höcke repeats talking points from the third reich, the program of the AfD for the election quoted a
nazi poem from a poet who burned books in the third reich and was responsible for the destruction of so called "entartete kunst" (which means like degenerate art).
Höcke has a pseudonym called Landolf Ladig, where he writes talking points that could be straight out of Joseph Goebbels mouth.
Höcke and the AfD wanna disolve the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. Just let that sink in.
They wanna change the culture around remembrance of the Holocaust. The Museum of the concentration camp of Buchenwald
does not let him enter, they consider him to be a danger to democracy.
And just a cherry on top: All the other right wing parties in the EU have backed against the AfD because they are too right wing.
Like every single one, Meloni, the party of Le Pen. Höcke and the AfD are problematic even to them.
All of what I write is just a small impression.
Oh believe me, they are. They started out as right-libertarian and then schifted more and more to the right.
The general politics of germany have actually shifted further and further to the right aswell in the past 20 years so the AfD being called far-right means they're FAR-right.
Like, if you imagine the political spectrum as a plate on a table with the rim of the plate being the furthest you could go polticaly in either direction the AfD is sitting on the table to the right.
It's clear that German have had enough of the current immigration dynamics. It was expected that BSW and AfD would do well, especially in the East. Maintaining the current right to asylum is simply untennable but both the SPD and Greens don't want to change their stance.
Fine! The voters will make your irrelevant then!
It doesn't help that a lot of their policy decissions in the past three years were pretty bad too (Energy especially).
So break international law?
@dee-jay45;
You really must be stupid to think you should think for the Germans! German can think and decide for themselves. They are not your 'White Helmets' of Syria! You just had elections in your country a couple of weeks ago, and apparently you could not even find someone to lead you out of the mess you created for yourselves over the decades! And mind you, That mess is not even immigration, as you seem to think! Remember, at some point, you thought your problem was the EU? Then came BREXIT and your problems became even worse on your lonely Island! Your biggest problem lies in your mentality and that you think of yourself as something that you are not, in the real world! You are no more The British Empire, nor are you a superpower with unlimited 'means'. Many of your former colonies have since surpassed you Economically and in living standards. Clinging to the 'coat-tails' of your former colony, the USA in order to be 'seen' in the World and blindly following them into useless wars and conflicts which only make your living standards worse is not the best way to get out of the mess you find yourself in! What you don't seem to see in Germany is that The AFD is anti War, a position that has won the hearts of many Germans long before the recent 'knife attacks'. Germans do not vote 'by reflex' as you Brits seem to do!
@@StrikeBolteafc if the international law is destroying your country yes fuck that law. International law means jack shit. Do you think shit like this flies in the middle east or Asia or even south America? What international clowning law is it which is only followed by the western world. Alot of shit laws were mainstream in the past as well doesn't mean you have to follow them.
@@StrikeBolteafcEurope made the international law so they can change it however they wish.
@@StrikeBolteafcprotesters break laws every day of the week.
For Thurungia, CDU, BSW, SPD is Not possible, because they Need 45 seats and only has 44.
In addition, the AfD can block decisions from a government because of the „Sperrminorität“, where you Need at least 1/3 of the seats
They cannot block decisions in general, they can block *certain* things, like nominations of certain judges or other positions, or the parliament dissolving itself.
Die mit der AfD symphatisierenden Auszähler waren wohl etwas zu übereifrig. Weg mit der getürkten Sperrminorität.
@@steffahn Yea I meant that But was to lazy to Write it xD
@@Oliver.2611 Then do the full stretch and don't stop half way through. Everything else is just misleading at best.
@@Oliver.2611 AFD is always lazy in erything except corruption and love of Putin.
So what about sent all those Syrians back and maybe AfD won't rise?
The Syrians in whose country you were making war and coordinating the 'White Helmets' just a few years ago? When you make wars, refugees are the outcome. There will be less of them if you stop your wars and stop interfering in their county's affairs. Of course, you may not have noticed that there were no Syrian Refugees before you decided that Assad must go, and not the Syrian people!
Interestingly enough the eastern countries have less immigrants than other countries. And a lot of original inhabitants leave their country.
Pro-Western Syrians lost. That means coalition of White Helmets and Bearded Cutthroats.
@@njikangclifford8259i think you have to narrow down who the ’you’ is here. Did ordinary people want a war with Assad? Who promoted this war, who benefitted from it and its aftermath? Most folks with political leanings of a more eurosceptic antiglobalist nature tend to be non-interventionist as well, so perhaps it’s not exactly accurate to paint an entire country with a broad brush here.
@@njikangclifford8259War actually has nothing to do with it. You are simply pushing a leftist, third-worldist narrative. As a sovereign country, Germany has no obligation to accept any number of migrants. The issue is purely with national policy. If they elect a new government, you'll be sent home. It's that simple.
Since when the normality became the far right?
CDU and SPD didn't do anything against Westgerman Neonazis building up huge structures in the Eastern countries right after the Unification of Germany. That allowed them to get a solid base there. The AfD took that system over from the NPD in the last 10 years and was able to expand on it from there.
Combine that with pure neglect towards the eastern countries from the federal Government and more pro-russian opinions in the ex-soviet countries and the recipe is pretty much complete.
The Alternative für Dorftrottel isn't normal by any standard though.
@@NephritduGrey It is the German east. Sadly.
So you are calling the 66% of people who didn't vote for the AfD, abnormal? 😄
Supporting Russia, treating asylum seekers like animals, segregation people into different categories, praising austrian painter and defending SS troops. Normality? More like having instead of brain a potato
“Far-right?” “Extreme?” So much for unbiased journalism from this channel.
Note: if you have the immigration policies of the CDU in the 90s this somehow makes you far-right. Don’t even need to set up concentration camps with gas chambers to get that label anymore.
It is enough to not want to be vaccinated to be called a Nazi.
Close the borders, problem solved, common sense…
No
@@ProjectZomboidgerman why?
Pls be quiet when you have 0 clue about the issue thx
This is what you get by voting halfwit. Dumb solution
NO open borders simple
what are the policy that make the AFD far right?
Everything that the far left dislikes.
Using the same slogans as historical nazis, having a youth organisation that is judically classified as extreme right. Having a lot of corrupt politicians (Halemba, Krah, Höcke etc.). Trying to weaken democratic institutions.
Many of their members are openly xenophobic/racist and have sympathies for a certain party that brought destruction to Europe not so long ago.
*A valid question. One however, around here you'll be hard pressed to find a rational answer to. In a rational body politic they're right-leaning or conservative. The German public is so brainwashed from eight decades of their Socialist, near-Commie media that AfD is painted with the (oh horrors!) far-right brush.*
Supporting Russia, treating asylum seekers like animals, segregation people into different categories, praising austrian painter and defending SS troops. Want more?
It is incredibly important to know what the current situation in Germany is like before you assess the election results as an outsider. We have a disproportionate amount of knife violence, murders and rapes by illegal immigrants every day. We also have a lot of Ukrainian refugees and Germany's economic development is almost at zero. The established parties are to blame for all this misery, having torn the country down culturally and economically for years. We have the highest tax rates and retirement age. People are fed up.
And the rich a flourishing!
There are multiple EU countries with worse conditions, that's no reason to vote for Neo Nazis , also if you think that all your problems in your life are due to the refugees then you have lost the plot.
Also even if your biggest problem are the refugees how are the Nazis going to help with that?
Please answer me which refugees are the problematic ones and how are you going to get rid of them , are you going to sent them back with airplanes ? Their countries will just accept them all? You know that the cost of doing that is huge? How are you going to separate the "good" refugees that you exploit for their cheap work and the "bad" ones doing all the crime? Because if you get rid of all of them the economy is going to crash because refugees are a big part of the German workforce.
Afd doesn't have a serious plan for any of this just like Nazis on other EU countries don't have a plan on how exactly they are going to handle the insane logistics of getting rid all the refugees they just want power so they can live out their crazy power hungry dreams.
Lastly if you check who are the Nazis hanging out with guess what they are the local elite that already exploit the working people and they continue to do so with the Nazis as the new rulers.
For any outsider who reads that comment, please look at the official crime statistics for Germany especially the murder statistic over the last decades before taking that comment at face value
@@bluvil that does not always reflect the reality. knife crimes are rising. there where no high security pollards on christmas markets before 2015, just to protect visitors from crazy fundamentalist driving into them with vans.
People where not afraid to go to events or ride the train as they are now. even if it is just 0.1% or 1% more in the crime statistics, it is 100% in people heads.
you just need a small group of violent persons to change the feeling of safety.
example? the werent many terrorst acts by the Rote Armee Fraktion in the 70s just a handfull and mostly only agaist the very Rich and Powerfull, Germany still had a crisis. the msybe 10 death and some exploding cars really did nothing to the overall crime statistics of the 70s.
@@bluvil nah
"Far Right" now just means "sane."
Anyone who is trying to ban a political party has no standing to call anyone else "far right" or a "nazi".
Sounds like the same tactics that are being used in the US right now.
Unless said party is indeed far-right and has Nazi rethoric.... which the "Alternative für Dorftrottel" is.
@@bobz3779It's not. After WW2 Germany wrote itself a constitution for a 'defensive' democracy.
What that means is that everyone is free to do what they want just like in every other democracy with the only limitation being that parties that work to upend our free and democratic order can persecuted for that.
That has nothing to do with being a Nazi, etc, it simply means that democracy has the institutional tools for self-preservation.
Where do you draw the lines when it comes to banning political parties? Countries have Constitutions for a reason.
Kommunist party was also banned in Germany. The commenter shows the low level of rationality and knowledge of the typical AFD clientel.
The proper recipe for the democratic parties near the centre is already out there, an example can be found just north of Germany:
The Danish social democrats have enacted strong measures to bring the problems that occur with mass migration from culturally alien cultures.
They have remained otherwise social liberal in their domestic policies, but it has ensured that right wing extremists have no shot at power in Kobenhavn.
Centrist parties all around Europe must do the same. Secure Europe from illegal mass immigration and the rightwingers will be silenced.
You can't keep your welfare states and stop the immigration, and I sincerely doubt that the Europeans are going to give up their welfare, so the immigration is _not_ going to stop anytime soon. Why not just ban the right wing parties outright and prevent them from organizing?
Heck, the so called "right wing voter" isn't even right wing.
Most of them just want border controls and stronger stances on crime.
Address both those issues and the right wing collapses.
But being for border control and against illegal immigration is now "right wing" when nobody at one time ever considered that a partisan issue.
I don't even get why this became a partisan issue in the first place.
Every country does border control and every country controls who enters their country and who doesn't.
Heck, the whole point of a country is being able to control who is allowed and not allowed in it.
Why this became a partisan issue makes no sense.
What does left, right, center even mean anymore? It's basically devolved into, left parties want centralized authority taking over control of all aspects of life under the pretext of safety and diversity, centrist parties are all about continuing the propaganda machines to cover up that all they do is sell out all the citizens because it's become personally financially lucrative to do so, and everyone else gets endlessly harassed as "far-right yahtzees" by every politician and media outlet.
@@savioblancit became a partisan issue because of communists
So comprise with fascists? Look how well that worked out with Hitler
Each state is a Bundesland, Länder is the plural
Bundesländer
How anyone in Germany can vote for any of the traditional parties is beyond me. They must have been asleep for the last 7 years.
Asleep? Not at all. The goal has always been globalization to import cheap labor. And stupid people on the left bought into it because the corporate media told them the other side was racist…
Now the entire continent is paying the price for their “compassion”
Excellent Result for Germany! Stand up Germany! Don't lose your heritage! Stay strong!! The past is rhe past. Go young Germans, save you countries heritage!! 🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪
I would love to see a AfD-BSW coalition. Nowadays the defining division between political parties is globalisation vs. nationalism. Both these parties seem to be anti-globalist and pro-Germany, so it would make sense for them to form an alliance. They would have to come to some sort of agreement on the economic issues, but I'm sure that would be feasible. The primary goal has to be to stop the 3rd world invasion, deport illegals and start governing in favour of the Germans, not catering to foreign migrants.
🎯
Isolationism never brings prosperity.
@@soundscape26 ??
@@evaskjerdOfcourse the Russian would like to see that xD
For everybody who doesn't know: AfD and BSW both have ties with Putin.
The coalition of far-right AfD and far-left BSW and the only thing that connects them is love for Putin and Russian money.
I do not understand why people in Germany vote for CDU, SPD, AfD, Greens, etc. Greetings from Greece. There is absolutely no party which represents me and my acquaintances.
Because Greeks are too based and smart
Media worrying about 'far-right' seems odd since the 1930's was far-left.
The idiots still think that national socialists weren't left.
Charges for rhetoric? Europe has no freedom of speech, it’s very sad
He only said "everything for Germany". For this sentence he was sentenced to 13.000 Euros.
...And for no reason whatsoever...
Solingen, Mannheim 🤫
The Germans went insane…
@@Frankie._.164yeah yeah just before the elections, what a coincidence. Someone is starting a new whitch hunt trying to divert our attention from the real problem
@@Frankie._.164
Are non northern european people only living in Solingen and Mannheim?
@@Frankie._.164Just two
Let's be honest, tell me man to man that you just don't like immigrants because they're not white, right?
Good luck trying to make impossible coalitions just so you don't break the "cordon sanitaire"
Voters go radical because they are ignored.
Establishment makes bad coalition that makes it incapable of doing anything.
Things get worse.
???
Profit.
@@thearpox7873 Now when has this happened before....
@@thearpox7873
Where are these :"radical" voters exactly? Can't see em.
@@tomorrowneverdies567Afd voters for example
In Spain it worked well enough.
all parties resolve to ignore the mandate of the people...the establishment folks
They voted for a party that doesn't respect the constitution. Useless vote therefore, because it won't get into power anyway.
Actually, refusing to work with the far-right and far-left is a measure supported by moderate voters, which means that actually, the more established political parties are carrying out their mandate by not allying with the far right (and in the past, the far left).
There's no left
There's no right
In the middle we all sleep
Their voters don't want them to work with the far-right.
Exept the efd
I don’t know anything about German politics, other than Christine Anderson is terrific; and as Christine is a member of AfD then the large increase in support for the AfD party is a good thing
What is terrific about her, , please explain!
@@geotropa1043 I appreciated her stance supporting freedom of speech and choice, particularly during the Covid period - her speech mentioning crimes against humanity - Christine Anderson showed huge courage to say what others were afraid to say
@@johndewever1322 I see. I didn't watch this speech , I guess probably
made at the European Parliament. . Here in Germany, AFD-politicians are mostly notorious for complaining about almost everything, including their perceived missing right to express themselves freely [!] - And they are specifically good at blowing up topics/problems, once they found out that people are reacting strongly on them.
I had the privilege of seeing her at a campaign rally three months ago. Great woman.
Anything right of left is considered "far-right".
A Certain group of people who are "watering down" countries, states, cities with the b.s. all over the world.
The eternal wanderers
🧃
I don't consider the AFD "far right".
They are "far right" because you can see from far away that they are right 😊
@@adinabrinzei9150
Since when is allowing non northern european people to settle inside Germany right exactly?
The AfD is far right. You can consider whatever you want, they are far right extremists.
Its the same spectrum as Hitler. You can call it whatever you want, but it doesn't change this fact. Discriminating based on religion led us to a genocide
i do
women defending Islam is like Chickens defending KFC............................
Also insane is any LGBT defending Islam.
Islam is a true right wing ideology
My whole family is muslim, problem?
@@bilimtv791 IF you are gay, my guess is that 1) You do not live in an Islamic country, 2) you are not openly gay if you do live in an Islamic country.
You are welcome to prove everyone wrong by moving to a Muslim country and starting a Pride Parade to show how welcoming and tolerant they are. I mean outside of your whole family, of course.
@@bilimtv791 Islam is in it's core undemocratic and are extremists and a dangerous cult. Same as the Nazi's and communists are a dangerous cult.
I missed the mention of the anti Germany rhetoric of the radical left!!
Our T-shirt love,
That T-shirt love,
Everybody's talks out our T-shirt love.
Called my manager and thanked him for the job and that led him for my paycheck and stood by her while we made the sandwich as team players and team love
@@WhoaBo What you said literally makes no sense.
What do you expect from the anti-nations rethoric?
@@Hardcore_Remixer re-read it in the voice of Winston Churchill
The Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht is an interesting party, while it seems to be a one woman party its basic mix may provide very popular to disillusioned left wing supports. Economically left, but socially right is a very unusual combination these days, although if you go back far enough it was not that unusual with union dominated left wing parties in some countries. I find her support of nuclear energy very interesting. If its not a spin, the Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht could prove very interesting next year.
This combination is not unusual, we have a lot of experience with it in Germany. Last time they called themselves "national socialists", and it was a one dude party.
Interesting
Would be an interesting party if it wasn‘t also known for making up „alternative facts“ when confronted with some of the more pressing crisis right now, i.e. climate change, russian foreign agression and so on.
@@eliasandradeschindler9402 I tend to agree with you, this party is likely a left-wing effort to ensure Die Linke and Die Grünen voters don’t flip to AfD. Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht is likely to not achieve anything in the long term, but it has likely reduced the voters going to AfD.
Lovely to see the 'right' all across Europe are making huge gains. They speak for the ordinary people and common since.
You spelled morons wrong.
You learned nothing from the second world war
The leader of the AfD in Thuringia has used nazi slogans several times in recent years. They speak for limiting the rights of minorities. The AfD wants to ban homosexual and migrants (legal migrant) rights. Furthermore they want to abolish the judiciary system, since the judiciary proved that they are an extreme party in the east. They will try to consolidate its power in the east (similar to 1933 right??). And the AfD also does not ‘believe’ in scientific facts regarding climate change and want to stop all measures against it. How is that all ‘common sense’? And who are these ‘ordinary people’?
Ordinary people often offer ordinary solutions. Ordinary solutions aren't adequate to extraordinary problems (immigration, healthcare, pension reforms, education, etc...). These are very complex (and sometimes complicated issues). Certainly not ordinary ones.
@@NephritduGrey You spelled patriots wrong.
SEND THEM BACK ✊
The real crime is, that the greens got over the 5% hurdle in saxony.
whats wrong with the greens?
Pathetic party truly degenerates and is an internal threat for germany @@ethnicalbert
@@ethnicalbertGreen nature Loving Communists
@@ethnicalbert They love animals more than human beings. Also, they love illegals more than the citizens.
@@ethnicalbert Allow me to explain: the Greens here in Germany are a fairly conservative party, compared to say the french Greens who're more left leaning, focused on social and ecoligical matters. They're probably the most inoffensive party you can find around here.
The OP here is a delusional maniac who clearly believes a ton of fake stories about the Greens wanting to destroy the economy, despite them being super cozy with it, or legalizing child molesting wich is constantly being parroted around by highly dubious yet established media, like the tabloid BILD, and far right politicians like the christian conservatives.
Basicly, OP lacks common sense and media literacy and thusly believes that the most harmless and toothless party ever is actually a serious danger to us all.
This is concerning everywhere in the west where far left radicals against normal people
That's not a full sentence?
By normal people you mean literal nazis?
? There are not even far left radicals in power anywhere in Germany, the government literally supports Isnotreal. Ridiculous
leave the house 🙄
Yea I know, I‘m german, the far right parties are really concerning
If I were German I'd be supporting the AfD, they aren't far right, they're just right.
Have terms like "far right" and "nationalist" lost all meaning? Seems like just 'NON leftist" is always "far right".
WAY TO GO GERMANY TAKE YOUR COUNTRY BACK!!!
WE ARE NOT FAR RIGHT, WE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE!!!
Which makes the 60%+ people who didn't vote for the AfD abnormal?
The leader of the AfD in Thuringia has used nazi slogans several times in recent years and they called the Erinnerungskultur (Culture of remembrance of the holocaust) “Schamkultur” (culture of shame). How is that “normal”? Isn’t that far right behavior?
No, Afd has links with Nazis, and discriminates based on religion. You cannot call Hitler (who had the exact same program) normal
no your far right pro russian fools who blame bad government policy on immigrants
Keep ignoring people who disagree and label them nazis and far-right, surely that'll fix the problem.
But the Afd are literally Nazis. Sometimes this term is misused as for Lepen or Trump, but the Afd have a similar program than Hitler and have a lot of links with Nazi groups. How would you call that?
Making 1/3 of the voter-base "untouchables" is not a good strategy in any democratic country.
But from the outside, it looks like German voters are not particularly happy about the current immigration policies.
Maybe the politicians should do something about it?
Or is it the plan to do like Sweden did? (Ignore it and paint everyone complaining as nazis, until the problem could not be surpressed anymore.)
Especially when the current government German is enthusiastically supporting a Nazi regime in Ukraine.
Sociology 101, two different cultures coming together results in difficulties. ISIS doesn't want to assimilate into democracies.
Except the AFD ARE Nazis.
Probably germany will do the same as Sweden
@Mosern1977: Do Germans 'whisper' into your ears about what immigration policies they want? Don't try to use Germans to justify the thuggery you have descended to! You have never lived in Germany, but you know what Germans want? There are very likely more immigrant living in Germany than in your country, but we don't see a corresponding level of 'Thuggery' why? You are two very different sort of peoples! You may not like to hear this, but the AFD is anti Ukraine war, and the majority of Germans are anti-war, a fact which propelled the Greens to the position they are today, when their campaign slogans were anti-war! The AFD has won the hearts of many Germans because of its position of not continuing to sponsor Ukraine in its war against Russia, as Germans realize that this is detrimental to them. They are not like you who always do not see the source of their problems and would rather live in denial by attributing to something completely different! Take your Brexit as an example.
The saddest thing on the election in saxony is the reality that lusatian sorbs (the original inhabitants of eastern saxony) got trampled, didn't get any representation as they should and no one seems to care about it :(
Höcke wins the Vote in Thüringen💪💙🔥
Best Politican in Germany!💙💙💙
I dont want to get knifd
"Knifd" sounds like new pro-immigration party in Germany.
so you are saying that you are r*cist?
Yes, taking 2023 as baseline your chances of beeing one of the 20 victims of politically motivated murder attempts in a population of 83.8 million is definitely astronomical. By the way in 2023 3.200 people died of heatstrokes in Germany
nowadays everyone dare to challenge the far left are called far right
Germany should leave the European Union and drop the Euro and return to a gold mark.
Any logical reason for that? Bc its done wonders for the UK
Wow, this was the best and most understandable explanation I ever saw about the German election system! Thank you
The AfD is rather right conservative than far right, this shows how much you actually know, absolutely nothing.
Germany: your vote matters!
(Unless you vote for THAT party)
Then it matters even more. It's basically a vote for business as usual or for a true change in course.
Deindustrialization or prosperity
Mass immigration or ethnic survival
American servitude or geopolitical sovereignty
The majority of germans still voted for other parties. So its logical that the gov is a compromise that makes the majority happy. And this doesn't include Afd
If the CDU gave the world Queen Ursula, to hell with them.
Extreme, far, extreme, far. Cry harder.
I cant believe hpw the german people can be so undemocratice. How come they choose a party they liked and not the one that the media wanted them to choose
In my opinion (and what I've encountered) is that quite a lot of people aren't truly democratic at all. Only the ones who like travelling a lot (curiosity or business) or the more curious and caring how other people/species and societies work and feel/behave like democracy. Others seem to like the "golden cage" concept. Well fed and taken care of but no free exchange of information. For values they like the religious and the ones they associate with "discipline": work, serve in the army, pray and don't ask for something else. If these values are being questioned then and only then they ask for "democracy", free speech, etc. And they use the democracy and free speech to dismantle democracy and punish the curious and the ones who would like to leave the "golden cage" mentality behind. That's why "defensive democracy" concept sounds good to me. Banning extremist parties who use the democratic and free-speech approaches to dismantle democracy. Like Germany did to the Communist party, it was banned because of that. But illegal actions and activities must be limited to the lowest minimum possible. Including illegal immigration and people trafficking.
@kameliastoyanova7198 "democracy is when people have my workdview"
As an Italian right winger I couldn't ve happier. I wish this is the first step for a right-wing Europe 🇮🇹🇩🇪
You Russian bots are so obvious
@@smazungsmazo-qh1bw aren't we 😁 lol
Going back the 1930s I see😬
@@overclocked5422 😅
@@overclocked5422 1930 was far left.
Notseeism was national ***socialism***.
In a democracy what is the point of a party clearly winning yet being refused to rule?, that is not a democracy, it is a fiddle to get your own way?
Easy! To govern you need the majority of seats and coalition with other parties. As nobody wants to work with fascists they obviously can‘t build a government.
In a democracy a party wins if they get a majority and can form a government. In what fantasy land is minority rule considered democratic
In a democracy, what's the point of a minority party being able to govern anything by itself?
bro they won one state only.... out of more than 10. hold your horses
@@ethnicalbert the only reason the CDU has more vote's then the Afd is because boomers still make up the majority of the German electorate
The 'liberal' or leftist mass media states 'far-right' voters, in relation to conservative voters who are fed up with the general situation in the nation that the liberals & far-left caused.
And whats that situation and how is Afd the solution?
The Situation we are in were caused by center to center-right parties but please keep on dreaming.
@@eliasandradeschindler9402 Merkel instigated the Muslim illegal alien invasion of Europe. Merkel the 'former' East German communist.
@@eliasandradeschindler9402 Who is letting the ill eagles in? Oh, yeah. Everyone but the hard right and the genuine conservatives.
Who pushed for supporting a war? Oh, yeah, the left and the 'centrists'.
Just to translate leftist speak for the normal people: when they call the AfD far-right they actually only mean right-wing or center-right. When they call the CDU center-right they actually mean center or center-left, there is noting right about the CDU. Europe's way of labeling parties is heavily skewed to the left.
Correct. I cringe so hard every time I see these false labels, it's nothing but a gaslighting and desinformation.
"Christlich Demokratische Union"
@@k.umquat8604 Nice name, but how about the policies?
@@Hardcore_Remixer Certainly not very labor-friendly
So, Hitler was right wing and Franco was center? You may be a bit far biased
Happy to see voices of reason finally making themselves heard un Germany, annoyed that political machinations are afoot to ignore the clear will of many people by excluding the so-called far right.
I always wrote the Germans off as mindless liberals but maybe they have a spine after all
The Right party
Hi fascist
@@PandoraJonesmodel sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me
@@PandoraJonesmodel
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@@PandoraJonesmodelcan you tell the difference between far-right and right policies? I believe we won't hear about you again.
@@PandoraJonesmodel hi child groomer
Far right? You should define this term because I’m pretty sure all it means now is anyone who disagrees with the mainstream narrative. It’s getting pretty boring
A lot of AfD members are openly racist/xenophobic.
The Nazi party in Germany is taken as an example of being far right. So every opinion or party policies/ideas that come closer to the Nazi party's ideas is considered far right. The more ideas which are similar to the Nazi party's ideology a party has the more far right it is. Far left is more like Stalin's ideas. Not better. Today's green and soc-dem parties ideas aren't even close to the far left ones (USSR policies, Lenin, Stalin's views). Left-Right (red-blue) is like a spectrum. Far ends aren't desirable (extremes, absolutes, historically proven to be not worth it). Closer to the center is more open to forming coalitions and consensus. See if it's possible for AfD and this Sara's party to form a coalition. (+) and (-) don't work together in politics very well. Coalitions are the way and it should be in order to avoid expensive (no only money wise) experiments with the extremes/ far lefts and rights.
@kameliastoyanova7198 Class and racial communism aren't very different
Thank you for the video but I dislike how you use the term "far right." It isn't far right to want to preserve your homeland.
They never say far left. They never acknowledge that there is an extreme in the other direction. The far left are considered to be acceptable
That's a fair point. However, the Afd in Germany is in fact far right. That doesn't mean that everyone that voted for them is far right, because some people just think that immigration is THE key issue at the moment. It will be interesting to see what happens because an anti-Afd coalition would have to address immigration in some way or risk driving even more people to Afd in the national elections. The best way to undercut the far right is to acknowledge that mass economic migration is not sustainable...focus on the economics and why poor uneducated people with limited prospects are arriving in droves...not just the far right obsession with their religion or skin color. The problem is large masses of poor people coming from messed up countries that do not separate religion from state so you get both the economic and other social issues at once.
Agreed! But even the AFD is not completely a far right party 100% populist and 50% Nazi but this does not make me feel better.
This comment: AFD is not far right!
A few comments above: I am proud AFD voter and we should displace specific groups of german citizens
*Poor guy is a product of public school education (indoctrination) and mass media consumption. Doing one's best to provide a fair and balanced analysis under those circumstances is nigh impossible.*
It is clear that the problem is migration. The population feels it. The AFD is giving a (non-acceptable, radical) response. Why can't the normal mainstream parties address this issue and take the wind out of the AFD's sails?
EU should altogether change border policies and asylum for Middle East. And recover safety and common sense. Make crime illegal again. And there would be no far right issue anymore.
Asylum policies arent determined by the EU. But the UN and the human rights. Inform yourself before writing something absurd
The CDU is not centre right - that is history. At least she is centre left if not left at all.
There is no CDU, that's propaganda.
CDU is just plain center, there is nothing right/conservative anymore. Former CDU conservative members split from CDU just because the CDU is not right/conservative anymore and formed a new conservative party called WerteUnion (Union for values).
@@Hauke69 *Thank you for clarification. I thought it was the CSU/Bayern Partei.*
@@Hauke69That was the 2nd phase. The 1st big split off from CDU created the AfD!
@@raimohoft1236 Yes, the AfD initially was formed by former CDU members and independents, Alexander Gaulandt being the most prominent one, but I have the impression nowadays the former CDU members are just a minority in the AfD.
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I haven't :) Thanks for being so loyal.
Proudly voted for the AFD 🩵
Proudly white
@@UnequalSardine what?
Proud dumbass
@@UnequalSardine *Yep. Proudly White: first, last and always. Prosit!*
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Completely expected. No one listens to the opinions and concerns of citizens and directly terming them as far right. So here we are.
ur indian bro. u finna be the first one to get exiled
Pronunciation of Thuringia got worse with every attempt.
Who's still voting CDU?......The extreme far left.
🤣🤣 lol sure
Brainrot comment with no academical basis...
Far left??? CDU is far left? Are you having a stroke my dude?
This is like saying republicans are far left.
@@RuinerWonkel we call those RHINOS
@@RuinerWonkel well if anyone being in favour of tighter immigration rules is far right,
than the people who keep immigration unchecked or want to open the doors even more are the far-left.
and the CDU is the one to blame for the immigration problems in Germany, so it's fair to call them the far-left.
Our social democrats aint doing politics for the poor folks, so guess what happens bruh... everyone saw it coming from miles away.
Bot
@@PandoraJonesmodel the new social democrat's care more about immigrants and lgbt people then the actual working class who have traditionally been their main voting bloc for 150 year's
Why are they then vote for a party that will not change anything for the poor?
@@phil0934 Because they will. The mass migration is one reason for why the economy is not doing well. It basically amplifles all the issues. Housing as well.
@@phil0934 A party that never ruled can always say they will do everything better and poor people with low education believe it
Congratulations to AFD.
You're a fan of Nazis?
Yes, but it’s not good
@@gmfrunzik It is. People who don't get represented by the governing coalitions finally found a voice.
Democracy working as intended.
@@Hardcore_Remixerobviously, but i never said democracy was a good system...
@@gmfrunzik It sure is a terrible system, but it is the best we've got so far because it allows a peaceful 'revolutions' every now and then to prevent violent ones.
If you don't let people vote by the ballot then they'll start voting by blood.
So... any better system? I'm open to suggestions as well as critics to my analisys.
Calling CDU center right is like saying the UK Conservative Party is conservative.
It's not anything about Nazism or far right, it's that the people of Germany are rising and are becoming conscious of the threat on their country.
IF ONLY the U.K. had a system of representative voting like this!
MVM - Make Votes Matter
CGP Grey has a video series on this matter
Since the slogan Höcke used is outlawed in Germany, and the media is treating it like the n-word, I went to the trouble of looking it up. For those interested, the slogan is 'Alles für Deutschland' - everything for Germany. Höcke used it in his appearances in a call and response fashion. He would start out with the first two words, and then let the crowd respond with 'Germany'.
Since this was the official slogan of Hitler's SA (Sturmabteilung), the paramilitary wing of the Nazi party (the brownshirts), it, together with other Nazi symbols, is forbidden in Germany.
Höcke was charged with this offense on two occasions and was fined about 9000 euros the first time, about 16 000 euros the second time.
Maybe they should ban toilets since those also were used by the SA
Some Month ago, i saw a poster from the Spd .. Deutschland den Deutschen... also a hitler quote .. didnt see any Charges
And when Donald Trump used another version of it, 'America First' it is normal.
@@njikangclifford8259 As an American I like that, I've had my fill of the puppets working for the World Economic Forum.
Ridiculous. Trump promotiing LET'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. it's similar Rethorik
Get the Green TOTALLY OUT and let SPD youth group elect fresh forward looking leaders in the HELMUT SCHMIDT type of thinking
BSW should ve obtained even more votes. But germany is waking up. VIVA DDR FORMER EAST GERMANY , SAY NO TO WAR AND YES TO PEACE :)🕊️ ☮️
Thuringian rostbratwurst is the BEST bratwurst.
Screw politiks
Afd let them rule
I've been super confused about the two votes thing but this video explained it perfectly!
Thank you for your explatation! As someone in USA, it's is difficult sometimes to understand how parlimentary democracies work.
And your 2 party organized white collar gangs will not vote for their own end. Has you saw in this regional german elections, we can rise new parties and fall old parties in one vote strike. Only USA army can save USA citizens from the 2 party dictatorship.
“Far right” yeah sure dude…. Just repeat the media bs
Its a party that discriminated based on religion and has hard links with Nazi parties. It cannot get more far-right than that
Your speech was written by chatgpt, I can tell when I hear it xD
That’s what RUclips is becoming, AI writes, reads and soon gonna edit videos too. Don’t believe everything u see online 😊
"Left wing conservatives"? Why don't you just say socialists? Only Americans think socialists are liberals, that's hy there are no notable socialist movements in America despite the fact they scream "left-wing" every time some liberal shows an aversion to the unregulated market.
I wasn't aware that their election system has kind of two stages. Very revealing video in that regard.
When it comes to immigration, Germans have two choises. Either the status quo parties start to take people's voice to account and make significant changes when it comes to immigration or face the inevitable loss of power. The former might be unpleasant but it might be better option than the latter.
The federal government parties SPD and Greens won't change their immigration policy because it is their central conviction that Germany should be an immigration country and become a diverse nation with many cultural backgrounds who all live together in perfect harmony being a model of a liberal democracy integrating as much immigrants as economically possible. And a formidable part of the population in the big cities lives this model already and likes it. While AfD voters basically don't want this change saying "You are changing our country in a way we just don't want. Germany to the Germans." - And this view today is labeled as far right.
🇩🇪 is waking up gradually.
"Suddenly I began to hate them"
Last time it woke up like that they lost a word war. Maybe its not the best of ideas
@@col.barnsby8595 Yes, we know. The commies hate wide awake people.
0:10 Thurungia?! It is Thuringia!!!
Thüringen!
@@pck1166 right, but not in English. In any languages that I know, it is not Thurungia, though.
@@nietzschescodes Ich weiß, ich weiß. Das war auch eher als kleiner Seitenhieb gemeint.
Es stößt mir nur gelegentlich auf, wenn Amerikaner oder Briten, sich nicht die Mühe machen
Eigennamen resp. Markennamen richtig auszusprechen.
Es gibt natürlich auch im Deutschen Namen, die eingedeutscht sind. Beispielsweise würde niemand
Jöteborj sagen, sondern Göteborg, auch muß man zu Arkansas nicht Arkensoh sagen.
Aber wenn jemand den Vornamen Åke wie Acke ausspricht, rollen sich mir die Fußnägel hoch.
Was ich sagen will, die meisten Europäer geben sich redlich Mühe etwas richtig auszusprechen und wer das nicht tut gilt als eher ungebildet. Beispielsweise, wenn jemand zur Zucchini Zuchini statt Zuckini sagt.
Es ist immer ein Abwägen. Ich finde, daß sich gerade die USA immer so ihr eigenes Süppchen kocht und sich
kulturell schon sehr weit von Europa entfernt haben. Da wird eine erfolgreiche europäische Fernsehserie nicht einfach
synchronisiert, sondern gleich komplett neu gedreht, wie die schwedisch-dänische Serie "Die Brücke".
Ich gehe sogar so weit zu sagen, daß es bedenklich ist, wenn ein so großes und mächtiges Land wie die USA
in ihrer eigenen kleinen Blase leben.
@@pck1166 what
3:03
Second vote seats of AFD should be 30, not 3. Typo!
" wir schaffen das " was a bad idea ...