Mad Men: The Many Loves of Don Draper
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Please do character & film analysis on the tv show MOM. I think it teaches us a lot and I would love to see the character analysis. Love your channel btw
Does anyone know what happened to Betty Draper and her relationship with Henry Francis?
I think the takeaway from all of this is that Don causes cancer.
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thank you. it's all crystal clear to me now hahahahahaha
Don's choice of mistress was also the antithesis of whoever he was married to. When Don was married to repressed, image obsessed, vain, old-fashioned homemaker Betty, he had affairs with independent career women who were often a little less polished on the surface. When he was married to young, glamorous, modern, ambitious Megan, he has an affair with a conventional housewife his own age.
Balance is the key to everything
From The Westside With Love You made me laugh
Plus he slept with with Betty when married to Meghan iirc.
Solution: Don needs a harem. ;)
Ouch, what did Betty do to you? She was glamorous, intelligent, rebellious in her youth until she was repressed by the image obsessed Don, who forced her to be a homemaker. Megan was young and seemingly modern, but she wasn't perfect...she seduced Don, played a role until they were married. Don is infatuated with her all of season 5, until he realizes she is not the ideal he wanted in the season 5 finale. After that, he pulls away from her and is cold and disconnected.
You're right that he went looking for someone different than Megan, though. He wanted her to be a warm, motherly, and mature figure, and she turned out to be very different than that. When he withdrew from the relationship, he went searching for someone who filled those aspects.
I live for the Mad Men breakdowns 😊
This is the first great one ive seen. the other ones judt describe the plot of the show
This and the breaking bad ones are amazing.
Once I found out that he grew up in a brothel, somehow it all made sense to me. Sex means a lot less when you’ve been desensitized to it and use it as a self-depreciating release
I still don't understand what you're talking about.
Very true something as powerful as sex, let alone sexual trauma like the one Don wen through, can have a very negative affect on a person's life long term
Somehow I feel like he was never looking for sex but looking to fill the void of love in his heart that his mother never had the chance to fill.
For Don, I think connection, love and sex are all mixed up in a big repressed ball of confusion.
Sex as a self deprecating release is actually a topic I've been studying a lot during these past few years, and you are correct. The early-in-life normalisation of sexual conducts plus a strong PTSD (from childhood+wartime) create a intimacy-avoidant, over sexualised, afraid of vulnerability, facade-creator person such as Don himself. He is all act and no authenticity. All a well put act done to conceal his true, vulnerable traumatized self.
Gosh the writers are geniuses!!!!!
Rachel was the one that didn't need him, he needed her.
I don't think Betty "needed" him either. She was not left as a wreck after Don (in fact she left him) and she was getting her life together when cancer struck.
DreamOfTheRebel Nooo Betty always had the mentality of a child (just look at her relationship with Glenn, for exemple) because she was always sheltered by her family. Then she jumped right into creating a family with don and when she divorced him, she instantly married another man (can’t remember his name). She was never alone, or not a long enough period of time, to learn independence. I won’t say « she needed » don but she surely always put her happiness in the hands of others. Don loved having a little puppet i swear
DR. Faye
He would have fucked it up with Rachel, just like he did all the others. She was better off without him
@@ninagru901 Betty had the mentality of a child because she was never allowed to grow. She went from being at her fathers house with a strict mother, to a college student and young model and immediately into being an oppressive mans wife. Let’s not pretend as if Don had no role in her emotional dependence of him; he very deliberately maintains the dynamic between them. He doesn’t give her space to grieve her mother, scolds her when she’s starts having panic attacks because of it and when he finally lets her see a psychiatrist it’s only under his intrusive supervision. Don literally keeping tabs on everything being discussed during her sessions with her through his secret phone calls with the psychiatrist was the perfect way to show how little independence he let her have. Even in her most intimate of emotional moments when she’d try to deal with her emotions, Don wouldn’t let it be beyond his control.
And the contrast in her marriage with Don and Henry was extremely great. She did the very opposite of letting Henry control her emotions. She stood up for herself (albeit in an extremely juvenile manner in the beginning) but she tells him very clearly that she won’t be told what to say or think because ‘she’s been married to a man like that before’ and with that sort of independence she eventually takes charge of her life, goes to college again when her children grow older and it’s no coincidence that that’s when we actually see her have emotional growth. She goes from being hyper fixated on Sally’s looks and choices to telling Don that Sally needs to have independence to grow.
Holy shit I never made the connection that Anna, Betty AND Rachel all died young of cancer. I've watched this show probably 8 times and I still find new things in it. Truly a masterpiece
Should someone tell Megan to get screened?
@@Unownshipper Nah.
So did his stepmother
pretty sure they all died of luekemia as well, no? definitely rachel did, betty's cancer spread to her lymph node. luekemia is interesting in that the body is essentially killing itself from whats supposed to protect it. maybe theres something to that.
@@powfoot4946 profound, never thought of it that way.
Don abandoning Faye crushes me every time I watch the show. After he connects with Peggy in The Suitcase, everything goes right for him. He has a chance at a real adult relationship that will allow him to move past his superficial, image-obsessed worldview. But real relationships- and real change- are hard. The show gives Don an out in Megan, someone who will give him the illusion of moving forward without making him actually moving forward. By choosing her, he's choosing hollow fantasy over reality. Tomorrowland is one of the most depressing and tragic episodes of the show for me.
thanks for sharing your perspective, I really liked your comment
i felt the same way when I saw that episode EVERY TIME 💔💔💔
Faye refused to accept his children and wanted nothing to do with them but his second wife embraced them.
I don't think Faye was that great looking and the right person for Don. She was a great listener though, but for that you can pay someone. Betty and Meghan are way better looking.
A 1 Faye hadn’t any experience with children, it’s not that she rejected them, it’s more that she didn’t know how to connect with them. People always expect women to have that « maternal instinct » and when they don’t (because that’s something you need to LEARN) people think they simply don’t want to be « nice » to the children.
I always preferred Don's platonic relationships with women (like Peggy, Joan and Anna) to his romantic ones which all ended up being toxic for both parties included.
The closest thing he had to a healthy romantic relationship was probably with Rachel as far as I can remember.
DreamOfTheRebel i wish they would
Have mentioned Joan in this video! She’s so underrated and a lovely character.
Anna was the best one
and Faye
Mar1lyn
When he cried after Anna died I honestly cried as well. He loved her in a different way than all the others. She was almost a maternal sort of figure to him, which may seem sort of weird, but he always seemed to be comforted by Anna and he actually cared about what she thought of him.
When he told Peggy that “she was the only person who ever really knew me” (in reference to Anna) Peggy replied with “Not the only one”.....but she was wrong. She thought that Don meant that Anna was the only person who ever saw him for the man he truly was...but in reality he meant that Anna was the only one who truly knew “Don” as Dick. Even in that moment, Don was living a lie. It’s truly heartbreaking. Don was so afraid of being his true authentic self that he forgot who his true authentic self really was. When Anna died, the tiny shred of Don that was still “Dick” died with her.
Their relationship was, in my opinion, the most pure. Anna loved Don for who he truly was. She loved “Don”. She knew he was truly Dick....and she loved him anyway.
Don always seemed like a lost little boy inside a grown and handsome mans body. He was almost pitiful in that aspect.
@@laurenquinn877 you just described exatcly How i felt about this, thank you for that.
the guy that starts crying in the last episode and don hugs him is such a good actor and I don't even know him.
If you find out please tell me
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He was on The West Wing as one of Sen. Matthew Santos' advance men, Ned Carlson.
His character is named Leonard.
It has been pointed out elsewhere on RUclips that Leonard is an anagram for Real Don.
He’s another mirror...
Does anyone notice that ALL of Don's lovers are intelligent? Maybe his need to escape to women who are extremely smart is also an antithesis to the image he presents that causes people NOT to think...
The trouble with smart women is that eventually they figure you out. And if you're not the sort who wants an honest existence you gotta avoid them.
@@FreyaEinde Well, if you look through the Mad Men analysis, there have been constant references being made to Don subconsciously trying to wreck his fake image. Maybe he sought out women who were smart because he didn't have the courage to come clean on his own yet.
@@FabalociousDee I think it's like a game of chicken to see how clever you are. To leave out clues and see if they'll catch on. Makes it more thrilling and Don is a thrill chaser too. I don't think it's a bid to have somebody get closer I think it's just more self punishment however delayed.
@@FreyaEinde It IS self-punishment. Self-sabotage. No, he wasn't doing it for intimacy, I agree with you there.
@Carrie McClure Preach sister!!!
Don's type is a (sad), smart, independent woman. Which goes against everything he is supposed to want in a woman.
Nice observation
He’s attracted to the light but then immediately wants to put it out. Not at all uncommon.
I’m not sure I would call Betty independent.
@@LibbyLou123444 if I'm right, when they first met Betty was working as a model, living in the city in a flat with other friends, she went to college, had a degree probably and even lived in Italy and can speak Italian,...but their marriage took thid freedom from Betty, forcing her to stop working and being a housewife. I always thought that Betty wasn't meant to be a housewife or a mother. She was meant to build a more carefree and independant life.
@@LibbyLou123444 I never said Betty was his type. But as @Aylin pointed out she (actually) always was but then she decided to suppress that part of herself. She never allows herself to be herself so the suppressed part is the opposite of his type, which is the point.
So glad you're still doing these! Would be interested in a video on Lane Pryce.
The Lie And Promise Of The American Dream
Yeah, I don't need another video telling me that Don Draper is trash. I want to talk about Lane.
Rosie Jackstone we need that
Sadly he hanged out after the graphite core exploded... no, wait...
Rosie Jackstone yes please!
One of the things that made me realize just how different from any other show Mad Men was as I was watching it was seeing how every woman he feel for wasn’t just a bimbo or side chick. They were real, 3 dimensional women that emulated the themes of their times and mirrored Don’s inner turmoil as we the audience grew to know him. I’d never seen a show depart from the traditional “the one” love archetype and give us romance, after romance, after romance which were 100% infidelity and yet make us root for each one to work out. Great job on the video.
Paully808 Don is a classy womanizer.
I liked the female characters in Dexter too. Deb, Rita, Laguerta, Astor, Lumen... (I’m not mentioning Hanna, because she marked the complete downfall of the show). All the women in Dexter’s life were complex and interesting. From damaged Rita, to his relationship with his step sister.
Breaking bad has strong females, but as much as I love the show, they failed to make the women likeable. You never rooted for them. But Skyler, Marie, Jane, Lydia and Andrea felt like very real characters and not just an idealistic idea of a woman.
@@alepolait8951 The Sopranos too.
When Anna says "I know everything about you, and I still love you," I cry every time.
Lol 😂
Unpopular opinion : Rachel was too good for him
Nooxh17
She’s actually a decent person because she really pumps the brakes when she realizes he’s married but she is honest about how she didn’t want to know.
Rachel truly was the complete woman. Smart,beautiful, and compassionate. She loved him and he could not step up. Not because he was married but because he was not emotionally mature. But he was smart and he knew...she truly was the on who got away. I loved her. I also loved Betty but for other reasons. That is another post.
Rachel was my favorite love interest on the show
That's an "unpopular opinion?"
Lololol ok...
Only because he wasn't brave enough to become the self that she inspired. It would have been a lot of work, and it would have required a heroic amount of truth and vulnerability. He wanted that, desperately, but chose the easier route and lost it all. That's why he thinks of her as " the one".
I’m really grateful for whoever at screenprism has so much to say on mad men
Aw, I'd wish you'd talked about Don's relationship with Betty a bit more, from this video it seems like it was such a small part of his life when in reality it WAS an important relationship that evolved over time. They were not a great fit for each other as they were at the start: he didn't trust Betty with his secrets and was stifling her progress as a person, and she was immature and unfulfilled. In a way they were also strikingly similar - both wanted that picture perfect family life while sabotaging their chances through lack of honesty and that spelled the end for their relationship as a couple. That being said, their relationship in general didn't end there and I think that they forged a friendship that had what many of his other friendship lacked - a long shared history that exposed them both to each other at their most beautiful and best, and at their most horrible worst. She knew just how ugly and awful he could be but she also knew he had a good side (unlike Megan who ended up completely vilinising him in the end) and by the end of the show saw him more or less as he was - not idealising him, but not vilinising him either. They were a comfortable existence to have for each other, even if they didn't interact often - he also knew Betty in a way that nobody else did. Perhaps their friendship wasn't as pure and innocent and loving as the one he shared with Anna (there was still quite a bit of bitterness after all), but it was an important relationship nevertheless and I wish you'd spoken more about how it progressed throughout the show. Great video nevertheless!
I agree and i think Rachel gets to much attention here. She really wasn't that important in the end. She was just another mirror to Don. An illusion of an ideal women who is like him and would accept him despite everything. Even if he married her it would probably end like with Megan. The relationship with Betty wasn't always pretty but it was real. Megan said in one episode all Don cares about is his work, his messed up kids and his ex wife. And i think she was right.
They make an entire video about Betty if you haven't seen it
Excellent points!
I agree with you ! it's a great video but Betty was not like the other women on the show; I think Meghan ended up more like this type than Betty. In Season 1, we saw a very unhappy Betty Draper who wants to believe that she had it all - a handsome and rich husband, beautiful children and a beautiful house but she and Don were both unhappy. Viewers tend to forget about Season 1 Episode 6 when Betty told to Don how she spent the day waiting for him because she needed him and missed him badly. I always come back to this episode every time, as this scene sums up how much Betty loved and wanted Don Drapper during their marriage that she even accepted routines and spent her day alone just to have his attention at night for a few minutes. Viewers also tend to forget that Don oppressed Betty during their marriage and ruined her chance to restart modeling. Betty was a sad woman and she didn't know how to deal with her feelings which made things worse for her. Don didn't know how to deal with her department or he didn't want to; he simply ignored them. People blamed her for leaving Don when she learnt about his true identity and this is unfair. She accepted Don's affairs with other women, lived a reclusive and lonely life when she was married to him and viewers wanted her to accept the fact that her husband lied to her about his true identity for years! It is mentioned in the show that Betty knew that Don did not come from a wealthy family when marrying him and that's why her father did not liked him. She already supported a lot during their marriage and this was too much, actually she did keep his secret when Don was under investigation.
After their divorce, they gradually became friends and there were scenes that showed Don later regretted neglecting her when she saw her happy with Francis. Their last sex scene means their goodbye by pretending they had one. They were not made to marry and marry, but to be lovers and friends.
The great love of Don’s life is Don
I think the great love of Dick's life is Don, the person he wants to be
And roger
@@hannah6034 This. 👍🏾
He hated himself
Huh. I always thought that he hated himself.
I think he deeply and purely loved Rachel. (lol I should have waited to comment til the end of the video. I guess it was obvious anyways). I liked her and Dr. Faye the most and I very much disliked the teacher
Omg I haaaaaaated the teacher so much despite not having any ill feelings towards any other of dons secret mistresses
@@iFruit96 right?? She really rubbed me the wrong way. It was quite amazing how their affair came to an end after Don was so ready to just up and leave with her. When he asked Rachel to run away with him I did believe it had a good reason. When he chose this woman I really didn't see anything there except that she was the opposite of Betty when it came down to a free spirit. She also gave off that sense of entitlement, like she is the ONE. Come on.
Alienor I liked him with Dr. Faye as well. She was such a great intellectual match for him.
@@brotherdandy Absolutely, she was like a breeze of fresh air. The way he ditched her for Megan really hurt to watch. Don "fell in love" with Megan the moment she treated his children in a very relaxed manner, Faye just had a different relationship to children, I think in the long run it really wouldnt have worked out, she wouldnt have been happy with him. I was so happy to see the actress in Stranger Things, she is GREAT.
Sorry but Faye got on my fucking nerves. For all her smarts she behaved like a groupie and set herself up for that. Making yourself readily available and always so forgiving to a man like Don? Where is your backbone. He cost her her JOB. And for what? He didnt even realize thats what he did! She was weak and thats why they didnt last.
Don has a type. Women with a pulse
Lol
... But he can make an exception if they really have that zing factor
The melancholy brunette would be a great band name.
Or the melancholic brunette
I always thought rachel looked similar to Don. The mannerisms and expressions even the way she spoke, and she was very beautiful. I also remember thinking she was gonna stay for longer than she did 🎈
I love Rachel too. She was just classy.
She seemed a bit prissy at first but she also called him out where he needed to be called out.
Beautiful, educated woman, her Jewish background and faith gave this real depth to her character... she was my favorite
Agree
Mad Men's one of those shows that you have to rewatch once in a while because there's so much depth to the story and the characters.
I feel that the casting for Rachel was to get some one that looks like Don Draper too. Look at those two actors... i swear they brother and sister.
PumpkinEskobarr Don is actually Cersei Lannister Lol
Yes she exudes masculinity. ..even more than Don.
@@edienandy haha that’s crazy I’m just watching game of thrones right now !
I didn't even watch Mad men but I can't stop watching these breakdowns
Mogli Kattenbracker same
You should it’s on Netflix
LoL same
you gotta watch it haha
For real. only watched the first season but have watched almost all of their break downs lol
Leonard is an anagram of “Real Don”
C. S. O'Loughlin o shit
Mind. Blown.
Wow great catch!
Very insightful
I just love The Take, you educate me so much
The one thing that always annoyed me most about Mad Men was that seemingly no woman could ever resist Don. I think the only exception was Peggy. But it just didn't make sense to me that no other women would ever reject him. Sure he's very good-looking and charming but that isn't the be-all and end-all for every woman... It was especially frustrating with Faye, who seems to not be interested in him at first and more of an interesting character that represent for Don _not_ being able to convince every single woman... until she inevitably also sleeps with him. That moment was so disappointing to me.
Krystof Dayne Yes. Specially for somebody who literally works to deconstruct people’s physche and she her self knew how it would end.
Hmm. Re Dr. Faye, you can definitely begin disinterested and watchful and change your mind. During that season, I think she was one of the first relationships to pull him out of the depressed cycle of prostitutes and feeling very low about his single life. She looked a bit Betty-ish even. She was more of an appropriate love and that’s why the Megan shocker was both disappointing and hilarious. Getting back to women who resisted him though: what about Joan? She was a lesser platonic friend to him and he admits she scared him! Don knows how to play the field. He goes after women who are obviously interested in him. Doesn’t hurt that he’s handsome and charming. But the woman who resist him at first may be burying their attraction, which as an expert playboy, he can read and still pursue. Hence he has greater success than say, Pete Campbell who is more obtuse with chasing women.
@@laurend9829 Well yeah I get that and I'm not saying it doesn't make any sense for Dr. Faye to be interested in him, but I still think nobody can be that much of a master playboy that they _always_ have success and it would, imo, have been good for the show and for the character to, for once, not be successful at all despite multiple attempts. Because that can, of course, happen. Sometimes, women are simply not interested but for Don the message always seemed for akin to, the woman is not interested _yet_ .
Lauren D Regarding Joan, the ladies from The Take have made the point that she was Don’s female counterpart with a sibling rivalry dynamic. Also, considering that Joan was Roger’s mistress before Don joined S.C. He knew better than to go after her. Likewise, he was warned that Joan should be the one person he shouldn’t cross. This, to me, implies that a plutonic boundary was established between them that developed into their contemporary story dynamic.
Alternatively, Paul Kinsey dated Joan??? People mistake her catty interaction with Shiela during the party as casual racism. When in fact, it’s a lingering remnant of emotional attachment to Paul and her frustration with his countercultural image.
Krystof Dayne I always saw Joan as his platonic female friend. She wasn't into him that way.
In a weird way it was always about Betty for Don even long after they divorced. The Coke commercial at the end was an ode to Betty (she was the Coke girl in season 1). If you watch the early episodes she really did love Don. She was naive and emotionally immature but she was seeking a deep connection with Don and from episode 1 she attempts to connect with him in a meaningful way. He just isn’t capable of it… his traumatic childhood left him totally incapable of intimacy. What he wants most in life is a family (what he never had as a kid). He had that with Betty and he f*cked it up. It’s his biggest regret which he confesses to Peggy on the phone in the last episode of the final season when he sobs uncontrollably to her rambling about his regrets in regards to Betty and his kids. It’s great writing the way everything comes full circle. At the beginning of season 1 Don is searching for *something* he feels is missing and using destructive vices to fill that massive hole. Later he discovers what was missing was genuine connection and intimacy. He finally realizes he wants that connection and intimacy with his family and that no one will be able to replace them (the climactic scene with the guy talking about his wife and kids in the support group and saying he doesn’t feel good enough for them and doesn’t feel seen by them and don hugs him with such emotion and compassion that both men end up in tears). The one thing that could’ve brought him genuine contentment and happiness was right there in the palm of his hand season 1 episode 1 and he threw it away. And by the time he realizes it, Betty is dying and his kids have grown so distant from him… he doesn’t really have a relationship with any of them. It’s heartbreaking because it speaks to something so true and universal.
I wish you would have spent more time on his very complex relationship with Betty. There were sincere tender moments with Betty and raw honesty which is surprising given that their marriage was so deceptive.
Beautiful.
Their relationship was always interesting. They were so similar in a lot of ways. Both ambitious (they wanted the perfect life) both coldly intelligent, both childish and self-absorbed. Ultimately, I think it's those similarities that allowed them to understand each other, even though they knew they should never be together. For the both of them, being loved was the worst way to get to them. Don with Megan, Betty with Henry.
Me, a sad brunette: Well crap!
Im sure there are men who will bring you happiness.
I'm sure (or hope) you can find your own happiness without a man...
Personally I don't think my sad brunette self would go for Don
What’s your take on Ken Cosgrove? He was my favorite character. He was like a better version of Don. They both grew up on farms, both served in the military, both are salesmen who are gifted creatively. The only differences I can see are that Don cheated & Ken was honest, but Don enjoyed greater success than Ken did. Also Ken was the only character in the whole show who didn’t cheat on his wife.
Ken was a GI? when was that mentioned? got a episode link?
Pretty sure he didn't fought in any war. ..they (Pete, Ken, Harry,Paul) were too young for that.
I liked Kenny as well and I did not realize that he was the only one that was faithful. I do not think he was gifted in advertising, but definitely in writing. A standard running gag throughout the whole series is Ken saying these stupid lines during meetings that could kill the deal. I think Ken was successful in the accounts field because he was a likable guy. Like Roger once said, "half the time this business comes down to I don't like that guy!"
@@theartofwar7806 He was a gifted accounts man, don't fool yourself...Remember when PPL said Ken had the rare ability to make clients think they didn't have any needs at all!!! They chose him over Pete, who was also really talented.
I love Kenny. He was confident and relaxed. I will probably go back to the show to see Kenny again since Netflix pulled the show when I was halfway through season 4
Out of all the TV shows I've seen, Mad men is by far my favourite. For me it was THE BEST show on television
For the first 4 seasons it was
Definitely. Mad Men kind of ruined all other shows for me haha, I keep comparing them to MM. The Americans almost came close though.
I jump between Mad Men and The Sopranos as my favorite show. Both are well written and have so many great characters.
Season 5 was the funniest season. S6 is so meh, probably I was pissed off that Peggy slept with Ted.
Yes, his platonic loves meant more to him. He knew if he crossed that line he’d destroy that relationship because let’s be honest he destroyed ever intimate relationship he was in. Although the one time he did cross over from platonic to intimate was Rachel. He trusted her and saw two sides to her as well.
I always thought and felt that "Mad Men" is something special but it was hard to explain why. Thanks to your good work now I started to know "why".
I recommend Mad Men a lot, but when they ask me what is it about, it is hard to tell without make it sound shallow (with all the romances) and political (with the 60's racism and sexism). Maybe I should firstly recommend these videos.
@@FixMe1995 Don't. This videos are full of spoilers, naturally.
This video helped me remember just how great the characters in Mad Men were. Even the one episode characters were fully realized people, they all felt real. That's so rare in a show.
I really see this dynamic Don/Rachel with Pete/Peggy as well. Two people who deeply understands each other but couldn't be together because of timing, circunstance and fear of what society would think. And there's the complication with their baby she gave away. I would love to see a video about them.
This has stood the test of time as one of the most well written shows in history. The character development is out of this world.
I think he loved Peggy, not the romantic way.
Definitely
I think Don loved Peggy like a daughter or maybe as a better version of himself. That scene where they dance to “My Way” leaves me in tears every time.
Peggy became his work wife after Anna Draper died
never stop doing mad men videos pls!!!!
“I Want You.”
When Don says these words,
he’s not lying.
It’s just that Don doesn’t want you for long.
I still contend that Don isn’t just an idealized American,
Don IS America.
Constantly pursuing happiness rather than actually being happy,
dreaming of life rather than actually living it,
always looking over your shoulder for something new...
I Want You,
in fact,
reflects U. S. military recruiting posters going back for ages.
I don’t think that’s an accident.
These videos make me like Mad Men more than actually watching the show did! I mean, the show's great. But I think analysis like this elevates it.
If only you would able to do it yourself...
This is the best breakdown of Diana I have ever seen. I couldn’t stand her as she took up so much time in the last episodes and was so dark, but this makes so much more sense. Thank you! Still one of the best tv shows ever made!
Didn't like her either, to be honest.
I get what the show tried to do with her, but man that story line just did not work. Ultimately I guess tracking her down was the excuse to get Don to head west again.
I hated that part, ugh. His interest on her made no sense.
Maggie Siff playing the pivotal woman in TWO masterpiece tv shows, Rachel in Mad Men & Tara in Sons of Anarchy will forever be ICONIC 👏
3, she's also a pivotal woman in Billions.
Yes, PLEASE do one of Pryce and Cooper, so much to say about both. Thank you for this, it confirmed everything I suspected as a loyal viewer of the show. He compartmentalized as he ran away from himself, wouldn't feel anything until he did, learned self love. I always thought of Mad Men as a story about women who had to weather how men of the time treated them, viewed them. Excellent writing by the show and this also.
Rewatching Mad Men has made me realize just how sad Betty and Don's marriage was. They did love each other, they had plenty of tender moments. Especially in season 1. Season 2 is where the downfall of their marriage begins. Don humiliates her with his affair with Bobbie. It breaks her because before he kept his philandering far away from her. With Bobbie its in her face and she is forced to watch. Their marriage is never the same and Betty only takes him back because of the baby. Don works overtime to charm her, only to fall back into his old, deceitful ways. It wasn't the fact he was Dick Whitman that Betty rejected. It was the dishonesty.
I also want to say that Betty wasn't a horrible mother. She had moments where she harsh but she was also very sweet. Sally's rebellion shows her at her worst because she's fearful for Sally's future.
Betty gets such a bad rep. She's smart, loyal, kinder than she gets credit for. She puts in the work as Don flakes. She's not perfect but she tries her best to be a good wife, mother, and daughter, despite little opportunity for fulfillment.
she was cold distant harsh and mean to her children.
Betty is a terrible mother. She is emotionally manipulative towards Sally and is cruel to bobby. Also she isn't loyal, she cheated on Henry and he didn't deserve that.
I agree
Betty was trapped, by the values she was raised in, by the era's zeitgeist, and ultimately and most of all by her mind.
All characters on mad men, and all us people in general, are trapped in a way, in our own mind and way of thinking, but for Betty's misfortune the particular world of ideas she had been inherited, was the most rigid of all the other characters on the show. "She always had a tragedy about her" Mat Weiner had said.
Trying her best, despite little opportunity for fulfillment, is a key observation, and a very very sad and difficult thing, internally.
Betty was though my friend.
Man, this show is insane. The level of complexity bewilders me. There's so many things the show doesn't tell us but instead shows us in a subtle wink at those who're paying attention at whatever's going on beyond the surface.
Unpopular opinion: Don truly loved Betty.
This is great you should do one about Burt copper he was a fascinating character.
I was really disappointed to see that they covered so little of Midge's relationship with Don, especially because when we meet Don in season 1, he has been cheating on Betty with Midge for quite some time. They were really close; he even gave Midge money for a car and I definitely remembering Don asking her to run away with him. I would have also loved to hear the video mention how her drug addiction serves as a cautionary tale to Don as well. Still, this a great video analysis!
Me too!
I was searching for someone who said this, I was so surprised they didn't mention her much
I live for these videos. But now I’m going to have to rewatch “Mad Men!”
Just re-watched the entire season on Netflix and it was glorious! Definitely do it!
I just finished watching MadMen for the first time, I watched the last episode just a couple of hours ago!!! And let me tell you, it was absolutely AMAZING!!! I kinda knew already that it was going to end this way, but still, it was just perfect! It’s not that common, that a show has a good ending!! So it’s extra special!!! Xoxo Sophieeee🥰🥰💕💕
idc that mad men ended forever ago, pls keep making vids about it 😩
'The Suitcase' is such a masterpiece. I could watch it umpteen times and still never be not in awe of it. So, the take that Anna is there to pass the baton and make sure Don's in good hands makes for a great detail to take into my next viewing of the episode. I used to really only see it as a farewell. Great video!
Do Rue and Jules from Euphoria next. They were in a codependent and unhealthy relationship, and the dynamic is pretty interesting
The only good character on the show is McKay.
Knives Millions Lexi, Ethan, Fezco......
Knives Millions um fez and lexi
RUclips's premiere Mad Men analysis channel!
From the deepest part of my heart,thank you. As someone who relates too much to this deeply flawed character your analyses give some clarity to the tormenting thoughts that keep me awake at night
wow I never made that realization about Rachel and Ive seen the show 3 times. But you are so right
Do one for Ken Cosgrove please...I never asked u for anything :)
Jen Lindley maybe Sal too?
Fuck it, just do one video for all the other Mad Men (Harry, Sal, Paul, Ken, Lane, Duck, Bert, Henry, Stan, Michael, Ted) What do all these characters mean in the larger story of Mad Men?
@@coconutqueenii That would be amazing!!!
@@queenemma5823 Sure, I wish they did at least a short video for minor characters...
Ken Cosgrove, please!
24 whole minutes!!!Let me get popcorn
Mad men is truly one one the greatest shows of all time it can be dissected for days and days
I had a "one who coulda been," but my mom's advice screwed it up. It was long distance, we were in our late teens, and I cut it loose to offer freedom, but it wasn't taken that way and ended very badly. At the time her advice seemed sound, but in retrospect, it was cold and unfeeling, more to my mother's benefit than anyone else because she wanted to keep me closer to home. (Hindsight 20/20.) I deeply hurt my one that got away. I found another, and I'm happy, content even, and I'd never do anything to harm it, but there's always gonna be that question: what if? Even so, I'll never understand Don's cheating.
That's why I never listen to advices. ..only we know what is best ourselves.
im so glad you made a mad men video after so long. it would be wonderful if you could make a video on micheal ginsberg.
Don’s relationship with his platonic loves are the best of the series
This channel deserves 5 million subs! Highest quality breakdowns of characters and theme, with amazing editing and voice over work.
I'm a simple man. I see a MAD MEN video, I click. I watch. I Like. I unlike. And Like again just so I'm 100% sure I liked. Thank you so much for this video essay. It is in your TOP-3.
I don’t think we’ll ever truly get to know Don. Sometimes it feels as if he’s just a character, being portrayed by an actor, speaking words and sentences penned by professional writers. He’s such a mystery.
THANK YOU for these amazing Mad Men videos @The Take!!!
Yes more Mad Men!! Thank you for going more into the show, it’s so complex and amazingly well done.
You make me very interested in this show
You should really give it a shot. It's a little hard to get into but once you get three episodes in you'll get hooked.
It is without a doubt one of the best shows ever made. Ever.
It's brilliant and def requires a viewing
Love that you're still making madmen videos
this is great, just rewatched the series for the 3rd time and this still connected many dots. thank you!
This is the best version I have read so far about Don’s character and his love life! Loved the piece where you talk about spouses and how we all want to project the image of perfection (to the world) only to realise how imperfect relationships can be .. drowning to ruins!
I never ever comment on RUclips videos but your channel is so brilliant I had to break the habit. Your Mad Men videos in particular always make me see my all-time favourite show in a new light. Think I might go in for a fourth series re-watch after this.
So glad to see this video just as I've started rewatching the show! Terrific work!
Yayyyy!! I love the Take's in depth videos, especially about Mad Men because it is so complex! I thought they were finished doing Mad Men so this is like mana from Heaven!
I know the show centred around Don but am I the only one who despised all of his mistresses and sexual flings? The only women I truly liked were his wives and his platonic loves.
I didn't hate them but I found many of the scenes with her mistresses tedious, except for Rachel's and all the women in season 4.
Is it me or Don's and Peggy's relationship is the purest form of love?
Yes it was.
Ugh! I love you keep finding connections in this series, despite it being long gone. I personally loved it since Don reminded me of my father. An old fashioned charismatic man, that held on to his deepest fears, thoughts , and desires. Made me realized I knew so little of him. Thank you Weiner. Thank you, The Take. ❤️
Thanks. You guys help me appreciate this wonderful series even more. Excellent job!
I've just finished watching Mad Men. I feel like Don mostly went for women who were immediately drawn in by his charm and career, but were ultimately lacking something in their own lives, which is why each relationship turned toxic. I agree that he had more sentimental moments with women he didn't sleep with, and it seemed like he could only feel connected during intimate moments, but when they were over, he grew distant again. A brilliant character, and every Psychiatrist's dream, I'm sure!
Rachel and Don's story broke my heart. When we saw her again I was literally biting a towel whilst sobbing 😭
Thank you so much for making this!!!!
A+ work! Loved the video. Mad Men analysis are my favorite.
This is probably one of the best videos I’ve ever watched on RUclips
Yey! I love these Mad Men breakdown videos!
I love these so much. Thank you!
By far one of the best videos you guys(gals) have made!!! Thank you for this!
Hi. I am a very big fan of your productions. I have watched about 70% of them. All of them.
Regardless of the subject.
This one has hit me in a way never before sensed.
I have nothing for you girls but respect. Keep up this good work.
From México with love.
-el Negro
One on Leonard from the finale would be great. I have always wondered why he connected with this random guy over Betty, Peggy, etc.
These videos are outstanding. I've never seen a single episode of "Mad Men" but I still find these videos fascinating. They even get me thinking about what would be said about me if I was a character in the show!
Such a great breakdown . I must say one of the best episodes ever of Mad Men was The Better Half in Season 6. It was beautiful and the most honest in person interaction between Don and Betty.
If Don had a therapist, it will save many girls.
I can relate to his relationship with Rachael. It can be devastating having someone who knows you inside out and all the skeletons in your closet and yet they were just passing by and wasn’t meant to be. Such is life
Ugh this channel is too good, I never want the videos to end!
HELL YEAH ANOTHER MAD MEN VID i watch the whole playlist every week
*Please, more Sopranos?* there is soo much depth, grief, moral dilemmas, wisdom, or characters, arcs, adultery, hypocrisy, psychology, pop culture, HUMOR, realism, betrayal, music, philosophy, iconography, imperfections, egos, envy, trust, food porn etc, viewing it twice is prophetic
At 5:28 Don tells to Rachel “this is all there is”. At the last season when Don dreaming about her at 4:57, the song that was playing named “Is That All There Is”
This was moving. Wow - The Take, always does a great job, but this was a cut above. Thank You
YESSSS MORE MAD MEN VIDEOS, THEY’RE YOUR BEST ONES