For those wondering about a more detailed look on the other arrows: I'm really waiting for the cost changes. I will make a seperate videos and eventually a comparison.
curious what you think of the arrows now that they are only used 33% of the time. definitely lowers the cost per hour despite arrows still sitting around 3-4k ea. i mainly use mage but was debating picking up a nox bow as a secondary style, especially since i enjoy nex and despise mele. worth it?
@@milesstiddard8807 I did! the arrow consumption is definitely lower with the change to 33% chance to consume an arrow. Been having a lot of fun using range at nex now, and using nox bow in combination with black stone/wen arrows has really made my nex kills easier.
@@pwnyougoodTTV that’s encouraging to hear! I’m thinking about sinking my ECB into EOF and camping a bow either nox or SGB depending on money spare bit worried that if I go to a nox bow from t92 cbow the damage will be worse but the new arrows look pretty good!
I think stalkers ring will become BIS since reavers will decrease accuracy too much with ful arrows and I have a feeling T95 bow will be crit based like FSOA
For long time the hexhunter bow has been basically death content given the power of the bakriminel bolts, and few bosses and slayer monster are susceptible to it unlike the inquisitor staff and the terasaur maul. Now wit the new arrows the hexhunter may become the best alternative if you can't afford the Sgb and of course would be worth over a Billion. So I guess time for more soulgazer grinding.
Thank you so much Zuko :) i'm glad you've been around for the journey. Slowly getting close to 100k yet it feels so far away. The dream goal is that playbutton ^-^
@@ProtoxxGaming me and a friend of mine were doing some bisdi duos and I was using black stone arrows and now I wanna try black stone into jas dragonbane arrows
did yesterday, and i could certainly feel the difference, felt prob a bit more effective than using bakrimel ruby bolts(e), on top of not having the side effect of taking damage myself, and using a bow meaning larger range, so easier to avoid some mechanics.
Can we have an updated range gearing guide please ? I just looked at pvme for range and ascensions are marked as low ROI :o ... plus which arrows i should use is confusing as hell with so many XD
I can imagine a team of people using them at solak just to get up to max stacks asap and then switching to emerald bakriminel bolts and just ripping insane poison damage
It would be interesting to see if these arrows synergize with the new T95 Bow, because otherwise, they seem like a wildcard for Bows rather than competition with Bakriminel Bolts. And that's important because, if the T95 Bow has a special attack that generates extra adrenaline from Multihit abilities or something, that'd Make Bik arrows better and more consistent to use, on top of it, if you had an ECB inside an EOF, you'd not only be dealing extra DPS from Split Soul but you'll also be generating extra adren (thanks to the bow spec) and you'll be applying poison stacks with the Bik Arrows, now that'd be an actually insane combination and may put Ranged on par of close to FSOA. And think about it, if jagex follows this route, Ranged will become the Multihit Style, Melee the Bleeding one and Magic the defensive although crit based one. That'd breathe so much more needed breath into the combat triangle and will give plenty of ways to tackle PVM. In conclusion, the success of these arrows in the META will most definitely depend on the T95 Bow.
Would love to see if emerald bak bolts are worth it with a stack of bik. I also wonder if the wyvery cross bow is worth it as a swap due to extra poisin procs
I myself can’t wait for these to be viable on ironman lol But imagine if these bad boys worked with the wyvern crossbow. How broken do you think that would be?
Can you use the arrows in eof sgb? For exp i got pernix quiver and if i put bakr bolts for my crossbows it uses that, and if i put new arrows in quiver and eof sgb spec will it use the arrows then?
anima rate buffed, reduction of time taken to make the arrows is next, but that wont fix the insane usage of them lmao, they literally drove hydrix bolts into the ground to make these arrows even worse, bolts have a 55-60% chance not to be used, big difference
Honestly the hexhunter passive effect doesn't work at ambassador, so is better that bow in nm and HM kerapac, arch glacor, the magister, and other bosses and slayer monster susceptible to it, if you can't afford the Sgb, then you can choose between a nox bow and a decimation.
@@TonnyTay I guess because decimation is the second strongest chargebow with an AoE special attack that acts as using chinchimpas but t87, last 5 seconds and requires 50% adrenaline. The nox bow is just a t90 bow with an almost useless special attack, needs arrows and is mostly used for disassembling into noxious components for biting 4.
@@moisescastillo217 Gotcha dont need noxious, so i guess ill get decimation, but didnt know its spec is like chins, interesting. Is it stronger than chins?
way I see it, these arrows are a use for spare anima, and that's how I'm going to handle getting them from now on, makes anima drops usable(so of course the bik ones stack to ridiculous amounts, they need to use up the easiest anima to get)
Virtually the same, the arrow passive are what carry the damage here (with poison boosts). Sure t92 helps, but you can do almost as well with a t90 nox bow.
I mean....u should switch to hydrix for adrenaline but I didn't even come close to these times with bak bolts. But thats me and my playstyle, maybe others can do better with them.
Bik arrows will be expensive for a while. Making from scratch dino arrows alone takes a while (i made 9k of them in like 4 hours including imbuing process) and bik anima is literally lowest volume anima in the game.
So uuh i tested out how much damage bik arrows are combine with emerald bak bolts annnd it turn into an ecb spec with max stack it's always 500 or 900 damage per proc but getting max stack is going to take a long time but it's still pretty strong at ambi or poison high health boss
Not necessarily OP because unless it tops off the FSOA it will only be comparable in certain scenarios, but not against almosy all bosses like FSOA (excluding Maging Nex ofc). Hexhunter with Jas DBane arrows, appropriate perks, sigils, slayer buffs... (you get the idea, the whole package), may be slightly better at ED2 than FSOA, but again, there's a lot more variables to take into consideration to give a final opinion, you need to take into consideration the DPS rotations and make it clear it may not apply for all cases.
For long time the hexhunter bow has been basically death content given the power of the bakriminel bolts, and few bosses and slayer monster are susceptible to it unlike the inquisitor staff and the terasaur maul. Now wit the new arrows the hexhunter may become the best alternative if you can't afford the Sgb and of course would be worth over a Billion. So I guess time for more soulgazer grinding.
@@ripwildy2022 I remember when it was as cheap as the noxious longbow, however back then I wasn't that rich enough to afford a +100M weapon and was using wyvern crossbow back when I got 85 ranged, what is true is after the release of the inquisitor staff, that hexhunter became more expensive than that and tried once to buy it for 350M and was to late (luckily I had the inquisitor staff back then).
The problem with Hex is it still has T80 poison, aftershock and crackling damage. You’d be wasting so much money using Bik arrows compared to a Nox bow. Until those damages scale up to T97, Hex will never be worth.
You meant nerf right? I don't think they'll stay like this without getting the GRico treatment. Otherwise leave the damage as is and make it so the arrows stop being consumed at max stacks. Maybe the new T95 Bow has a passive that helps with arrow consumption and a good spec that competes with Hydrix Bakriminel Bolts.
Making the arrows yourself isn't that hard or even that time-consuming. On release, it only took me two days to reach my target of 16k dinarrows and I was dicking around in another game while doing it. One "batch" of the base arrow will be 900 arrows and that'll be really easy to reach. And Bik anima is the easiest to get. Put dropping the fungus on a keybind, go to the spore/hunting area of the Croesus front, put a D-size battery on your keybind to hold the button down and sit back.
I think they are cheap when it comes to cost if you weigh up how much the drops are 1b from ambassadors drops , when t95 bow drops you are looking 6b start price , just my opinion
You know they call it the ‘Water Casino’ right? Getting a drop after few hundred kills dry, you need to consider your onyx cost, supplies etc. In my case, a piece would only give me roughly 300m-400m profit.
@@ammarhakimi8145 lower costs ph then would be my advice , I flech and enchant my own bolts make pots via drops so it's just gear, tbf for me personally
@@ammarhakimi8145 is the main reason I prefer ed1 for profit consistency, even ed2 because despite the energies not being as expensive as the scales, you can get a chance of getting any of the 3 melee codexes.
That's why i haven't invested any gp at all in Mage. Range is viable and has always been viable for almost all bosses, the only difference is that Mage (with all the powercreep) is capable of skipping more mechanics and shave off minutes out of a Killtime, whereas range of even melee is slightly slower. Besides, with all the new rotations that came with new abilities and the FSOA i don't really want to re-learn bosses with a magic perspective now, only to do slightly faster and see the actual payoff 100's of kills later. Nah, i'll just stick to Range and see if the Zammy Headbow is actually a worthy investment going forward.
Jagex is doing right when we talk about bring interesting content for the game, good for pvm and skillers at the same time, but they are dogshit in balance things out.
Its kinda insane to see the addition of arrows doing so much for range casual kills, it kinda pisses me off. We had a melee update recently and u lose stacks after 9seconds w the whip. What the heck is up w 30s for range? I dont get it. If youre meleeing amb ur killtimes should be around 4.30 w zgs and all other switches (ex for the ezk). And thats getting under him for last phase so he doesnt heal anything etc. U didnt even do that and i assume theres a lot of improvement to be made for even better killtimes adding switches n stuff. Why does gagax hate melee so much i dont get it
RSBNB Made the video about all arrows, intentionally brief and a good primer before you watch Waswere video where he goes slightly more in-depth about all of the new arrows, Protoxx is more of the practical application so you'll see the entire picture if you watch all these videos.
i dont want to sound rude or anything at all but, if those arrows beat your fsoa pb im afraid thats not a correct example of what fsoa can do even for a casual player.
FSOA is a beast of a weapon in capable hands, otherwise it's a pretty damn good weapon. The amount of Skips you can do with a FSOA, the appropriate switches and extra weapons for DPS/Crits and a proper rotation, Damn! I believe the casual playerbase who own a FSOA but still don't have a proper rotation (even a properly set revo bar can do just fine with practice) aren't taping into their weapon full potential.
@@3rdAgeSoap except at the price they will never be worth using, so wont be a demand. think thats what he is getting at, and i agree. none of the arrows are worth using since youll never make money at any boss
Yeah, it definitely needs like a chance of not being consumed. Pretty sure bakrims like emerald are 55% chance of NOT being consumed, which definitely helps with upkeep
@@coltonkelly6303 auto attacks fire arrows lmao, be no different really, every attack will use an arrow regardless of being on legacy, magic uses runes every cast the same if on legacy
@@coltonkelly6303 when i tried this, it was using runes every cast, but arrows/bolts were saved due to ava`s device chance, take that away and most arrows are gone when fired, the new arrows are functioning just like they would if they were in osrs, you shoot it you lose it lol
"Beat out my fsoa pb" had me sold right there. Lmao time to spend my hard earned gp. Edit: Hahaha wait a minute. Spending 19m/hr killing a boss??? Yeah gunna wait for Jagex on that note
Keep in mind that the fsoa works well almost everywhere, the bik arrows are only good for some bosses. Same for jas. Where they do work though, they work very well Edit: I could probably also still increase my fsoa times easily, its just that these arrows require no switching to get good times
@@ProtoxxGaming oh no for sure. I was just thinking for this boss this will probably what I go with. I dont mind switching but I'd rather not haha. I havent fought this boss yet and I've been playing for a year lol.
@@Fridge_Fiend why irons think that The game balance is supposed to be arround them? The oficial game is The game with trade and should be balanced arround that aswell..... God iron Man when Was released Was way more challenging , u guys want ez iron Man mode, get real or quit that mode. Just add mtx to It already, since you want every drop to Help you
@@ProtoxxGaming i had good times and also times that made me cry as an adult (I lost billions staking a couple of years ago within like 4 hours and sold my MacBook) ultimately I could have spent my time more wisely growing up in hindsight
For those wondering about a more detailed look on the other arrows: I'm really waiting for the cost changes. I will make a seperate videos and eventually a comparison.
curious what you think of the arrows now that they are only used 33% of the time. definitely lowers the cost per hour despite arrows still sitting around 3-4k ea. i mainly use mage but was debating picking up a nox bow as a secondary style, especially since i enjoy nex and despise mele. worth it?
@@pwnyougoodTTV curious. Did you pick up that bow and are you enjoying it?
@@milesstiddard8807 I did! the arrow consumption is definitely lower with the change to 33% chance to consume an arrow. Been having a lot of fun using range at nex now, and using nox bow in combination with black stone/wen arrows has really made my nex kills easier.
@@pwnyougoodTTV that’s encouraging to hear! I’m thinking about sinking my ECB into EOF and camping a bow either nox or SGB depending on money spare bit worried that if I go to a nox bow from t92 cbow the damage will be worse but the new arrows look pretty good!
i think poison is now strong enough to be called the fourth class
Ayoooo like for real now lol!! Cant pvm without it unless ofc that boss is no fun 😏
I think stalkers ring will become BIS since reavers will decrease accuracy too much with ful arrows and I have a feeling T95 bow will be crit based like FSOA
For long time the hexhunter bow has been basically death content given the power of the bakriminel bolts, and few bosses and slayer monster are susceptible to it unlike the inquisitor staff and the terasaur maul. Now wit the new arrows the hexhunter may become the best alternative if you can't afford the Sgb and of course would be worth over a Billion. So I guess time for more soulgazer grinding.
it will crash though once the t95 bow comes out since itll be a t95 weapon everywhere whereas the hex is only t97 at a handful of places
@@Qsel97 maybe it is a great possibility that will become basically worthless like the inquisitor staff and terasaur maul.
Congrats on making it to 80k subscribers! With the amount of work that you put into this channel, you deserve every single one of them and then some.
Thank you so much Zuko :) i'm glad you've been around for the journey. Slowly getting close to 100k yet it feels so far away.
The dream goal is that playbutton ^-^
@@ProtoxxGaming Im glad to be around for the journey too. I look forward to the celebration stream when you hit that 100k.
that lizard gang at 5:05 :D
Cant wait to try the jas dragonbane arrows against a ed2 run
I've smashed some PB's with em, very good.
@@ProtoxxGaming me and a friend of mine were doing some bisdi duos and I was using black stone arrows and now I wanna try black stone into jas dragonbane arrows
BSD Skips will be more consistent now.
did yesterday, and i could certainly feel the difference, felt prob a bit more effective than using bakrimel ruby bolts(e), on top of not having the side effect of taking damage myself, and using a bow meaning larger range, so easier to avoid some mechanics.
Can we have an updated range gearing guide please ? I just looked at pvme for range and ascensions are marked as low ROI :o ... plus which arrows i should use is confusing as hell with so many XD
Wait so the decimation, sgb, zaryte bow all can use these arrows?
Pretty sure u can use any arrow type you like, even with weapons that supply free ammo
I can imagine a team of people using them at solak just to get up to max stacks asap and then switching to emerald bakriminel bolts and just ripping insane poison damage
It would be interesting to see if these arrows synergize with the new T95 Bow, because otherwise, they seem like a wildcard for Bows rather than competition with Bakriminel Bolts.
And that's important because, if the T95 Bow has a special attack that generates extra adrenaline from Multihit abilities or something, that'd Make Bik arrows better and more consistent to use, on top of it, if you had an ECB inside an EOF, you'd not only be dealing extra DPS from Split Soul but you'll also be generating extra adren (thanks to the bow spec) and you'll be applying poison stacks with the Bik Arrows, now that'd be an actually insane combination and may put Ranged on par of close to FSOA.
And think about it, if jagex follows this route, Ranged will become the Multihit Style, Melee the Bleeding one and Magic the defensive although crit based one. That'd breathe so much more needed breath into the combat triangle and will give plenty of ways to tackle PVM.
In conclusion, the success of these arrows in the META will most definitely depend on the T95 Bow.
Would love to see if emerald bak bolts are worth it with a stack of bik. I also wonder if the wyvery cross bow is worth it as a swap due to extra poisin procs
What kind of training dummy is that (100.000 life points)?
Do the Jas arrows work at tune dragons? Would be nice using my hex at them whilst doing slayer
rune dragons? yes, they work on all dragons
@@ProtoxxGaming He means do they break the armor or do you still need dragon bane bolts.
man has 3k bik arrow, higher gp than my bank
I myself can’t wait for these to be viable on ironman lol
But imagine if these bad boys worked with the wyvern crossbow. How broken do you think that would be?
Dont cause its crossbow
Way to not think that through. Crossbows don't use arrows, smart one
@@SportsurgeDotNet he did say imagine if....
@@SportsurgeDotNet "imagine if"
Literally said imagine if lmao 🙃
Can you use the arrows in eof sgb? For exp i got pernix quiver and if i put bakr bolts for my crossbows it uses that, and if i put new arrows in quiver and eof sgb spec will it use the arrows then?
No
nope
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anima rate buffed, reduction of time taken to make the arrows is next, but that wont fix the insane usage of them lmao, they literally drove hydrix bolts into the ground to make these arrows even worse, bolts have a 55-60% chance not to be used, big difference
Wen arrows and deadshot is quite juicy when you have the zuk range cape....really good at nex
What weap you using? Bow or crossbow?
@@Aestheticviewoflife bow with the wen arrows quite a juicy hit at 15 stacks (easy to get)
Those bik arrows might be the key for me to finally solo ambassador lol. Does it work with tier 80 bows? Can't afford SGB but maybe hexhunter.
Yeah just get yourself a t80+ bow. No need to get a hex
Honestly the hexhunter passive effect doesn't work at ambassador, so is better that bow in nm and HM kerapac, arch glacor, the magister, and other bosses and slayer monster susceptible to it, if you can't afford the Sgb, then you can choose between a nox bow and a decimation.
@@moisescastillo217 oh damn ur right, I forgot. I may have to go with decimation, I heard nox bow is shit idk why.
@@TonnyTay I guess because decimation is the second strongest chargebow with an AoE special attack that acts as using chinchimpas but t87, last 5 seconds and requires 50% adrenaline. The nox bow is just a t90 bow with an almost useless special attack, needs arrows and is mostly used for disassembling into noxious components for biting 4.
@@moisescastillo217 Gotcha dont need noxious, so i guess ill get decimation, but didnt know its spec is like chins, interesting. Is it stronger than chins?
way I see it, these arrows are a use for spare anima, and that's how I'm going to handle getting them from now on, makes anima drops usable(so of course the bik ones stack to ridiculous amounts, they need to use up the easiest anima to get)
easiest yet always been the most expensive lool
Protoxx can I use these arrows with the nox bow?
Absolutely :) works just as well
@@ProtoxxGaming better than arraxite?
can you stack up poison then switch off and come back within 30 seconds to keep the stacks up?
Yes.
Why is sgb so expencive when you can shoot with it with no arrows equipped, does it use arrows?
It has a special AoE attack for large targets
ruclips.net/video/-yZT38yjgTs/видео.html vid on it
Made it to 1k enrage with those arrows. From what I've noticed is that the poison counter doesn't go down while attacking arch glacors arms
Was hoping to see you use the other arrows. :(
I'll be making seperate videos for the arrows until there are major changes to cost.
I'm low on gp right now due to buying near bis magic
How do the arrows do with a bow that doesn't cost two billion gp?
Virtually the same, the arrow passive are what carry the damage here (with poison boosts).
Sure t92 helps, but you can do almost as well with a t90 nox bow.
@@ProtoxxGaming Have you tested your theory? If not, you should.
But is it more dps then bakriminel bolts tho?
I mean....u should switch to hydrix for adrenaline but I didn't even come close to these times with bak bolts.
But thats me and my playstyle, maybe others can do better with them.
Bik arrows will be expensive for a while. Making from scratch dino arrows alone takes a while (i made 9k of them in like 4 hours including imbuing process) and bik anima is literally lowest volume anima in the game.
So uuh i tested out how much damage bik arrows are combine with emerald bak bolts annnd it turn into an ecb spec with max stack it's always 500 or 900 damage per proc but getting max stack is going to take a long time but it's still pretty strong at ambi or poison high health boss
Can I ask if a wyvern cross bow would be handy for the extra bolt procs?
Why not use something like Ava’s repeater?
Because the arrows are consumed not dropped.
is the Hexhunter finally OP now, then?
especially on bosses that are supposed to be weak to it (Kerapac, AG, Raksha, mage Araxxor + Araxxi)?
Not necessarily OP because unless it tops off the FSOA it will only be comparable in certain scenarios, but not against almosy all bosses like FSOA (excluding Maging Nex ofc).
Hexhunter with Jas DBane arrows, appropriate perks, sigils, slayer buffs... (you get the idea, the whole package), may be slightly better at ED2 than FSOA, but again, there's a lot more variables to take into consideration to give a final opinion, you need to take into consideration the DPS rotations and make it clear it may not apply for all cases.
For long time the hexhunter bow has been basically death content given the power of the bakriminel bolts, and few bosses and slayer monster are susceptible to it unlike the inquisitor staff and the terasaur maul. Now wit the new arrows the hexhunter may become the best alternative if you can't afford the Sgb and of course would be worth over a Billion. So I guess time for more soulgazer grinding.
@@moisescastillo217 I'm just glad I got mine for like 150m lol. Haven’t touched the game in a couple of years tho, maybe its time for a revisit.
@@ripwildy2022 I remember when it was as cheap as the noxious longbow, however back then I wasn't that rich enough to afford a +100M weapon and was using wyvern crossbow back when I got 85 ranged, what is true is after the release of the inquisitor staff, that hexhunter became more expensive than that and tried once to buy it for 350M and was to late (luckily I had the inquisitor staff back then).
The problem with Hex is it still has T80 poison, aftershock and crackling damage. You’d be wasting so much money using Bik arrows compared to a Nox bow. Until those damages scale up to T97, Hex will never be worth.
damn... now regretting my sgb inside a eof
I dont watn to touch these arrows until theyre rebalanced. Theyre great but soo expensive
You meant nerf right? I don't think they'll stay like this without getting the GRico treatment. Otherwise leave the damage as is and make it so the arrows stop being consumed at max stacks.
Maybe the new T95 Bow has a passive that helps with arrow consumption and a good spec that competes with Hydrix Bakriminel Bolts.
@@Kranon Yeah i was meaning the consumption rate needs to be rebalanced
3:45 weird flex, but ok
new bow is gonna break the game
and im gonna use it lol
As deserved, tbh. Most neglected archtype for YEARS and has always been deadlast in terms of dps for as long.
Making the arrows yourself isn't that hard or even that time-consuming. On release, it only took me two days to reach my target of 16k dinarrows and I was dicking around in another game while doing it. One "batch" of the base arrow will be 900 arrows and that'll be really easy to reach.
And Bik anima is the easiest to get. Put dropping the fungus on a keybind, go to the spore/hunting area of the Croesus front, put a D-size battery on your keybind to hold the button down and sit back.
By the time you get 100 bik anima you get several hundred of the others on every other front.
me casually doing 3 minute amby kills with mage 0.0
Im bad obv
look into using a wyvern cbow with emerald bolts after hitting 400 bik stacks :]
Won’t work cause wyvern is crossbow, these are arrows
@@Jetset_hd which is why you switch to the wyvern crossbow and have arrows + bolts in pernix quiver
I saw your reddit post lol, the damage was insane Mr. Anime PFP :)
They're unsustainable for irons though, yey...
That should change in the future
Are they good enough for you to finally solo vorago 🙃
Hahahaha
i think is 3.8k each now, still expensive but bit better
Wht abt other arrows
I will be making seperate videos. Waiting for changes to make a comparison, as they are too expensive to all test at once
I haven’t played in a month and I feel like I’m way behind.
So true
I think they are cheap when it comes to cost if you weigh up how much the drops are 1b from ambassadors drops , when t95 bow drops you are looking 6b start price , just my opinion
You know they call it the ‘Water Casino’ right? Getting a drop after few hundred kills dry, you need to consider your onyx cost, supplies etc. In my case, a piece would only give me roughly 300m-400m profit.
@@ammarhakimi8145 lower costs ph then would be my advice , I flech and enchant my own bolts make pots via drops so it's just gear, tbf for me personally
@@ammarhakimi8145 is the main reason I prefer ed1 for profit consistency, even ed2 because despite the energies not being as expensive as the scales, you can get a chance of getting any of the 3 melee codexes.
Interesting RSN
Do you think range will become the new meta?
If the bow has a strong of spec, absolutely. But it could also be meh.
@@ProtoxxGaming Spoken like a true follower of Guthix, totally neutral.
@@ProtoxxGaming the bow will also need a very strong passive to prevent it becoming EOF fodder
and me who put the SGB in an EOF...
I finally get my fsoa, and then they drop the dinarrows. 😂😂 I had BiS range for ever, but now I may have to buy or get a sgb again. 😂😂
Poor you having billions of GP lol... I can hear the tiny violin
@@jmwturneruk what? I crafted my own. 😂
Don't sell the fsoa. Keep it. It still has insane burst damage potential. These arrows dont work everywhere haha
@@ProtoxxGaming I plan to keep it. Took long hours for it. 😂 besides I gotta get efficient with it.
That's why i haven't invested any gp at all in Mage. Range is viable and has always been viable for almost all bosses, the only difference is that Mage (with all the powercreep) is capable of skipping more mechanics and shave off minutes out of a Killtime, whereas range of even melee is slightly slower. Besides, with all the new rotations that came with new abilities and the FSOA i don't really want to re-learn bosses with a magic perspective now, only to do slightly faster and see the actual payoff 100's of kills later.
Nah, i'll just stick to Range and see if the Zammy Headbow is actually a worthy investment going forward.
Bro you'll cut another 15 seconds off your ambassador times if you actually do the mechanic and stop the heals
u mean healing from the mage hits?
@@ProtoxxGaming at the very end, yeah the shit you devo from. Stand in front of white clouds, they heal 2500 each
Bik arrows are gud. 🔥
Jagex is doing right when we talk about bring interesting content for the game, good for pvm and skillers at the same time, but they are dogshit in balance things out.
thanks cutie
Any time
Its kinda insane to see the addition of arrows doing so much for range casual kills, it kinda pisses me off. We had a melee update recently and u lose stacks after 9seconds w the whip. What the heck is up w 30s for range? I dont get it. If youre meleeing amb ur killtimes should be around 4.30 w zgs and all other switches (ex for the ezk). And thats getting under him for last phase so he doesnt heal anything etc. U didnt even do that and i assume theres a lot of improvement to be made for even better killtimes adding switches n stuff. Why does gagax hate melee so much i dont get it
far too expensive to use still. add some kind of bonus to the stalker ring or something
Lol the video is about all the arrows or just bik 😄
RSBNB Made the video about all arrows, intentionally brief and a good primer before you watch Waswere video where he goes slightly more in-depth about all of the new arrows, Protoxx is more of the practical application so you'll see the entire picture if you watch all these videos.
i dont want to sound rude or anything at all but, if those arrows beat your fsoa pb im afraid thats not a correct example of what fsoa can do even for a casual player.
FSOA is a beast of a weapon in capable hands, otherwise it's a pretty damn good weapon. The amount of Skips you can do with a FSOA, the appropriate switches and extra weapons for DPS/Crits and a proper rotation, Damn!
I believe the casual playerbase who own a FSOA but still don't have a proper rotation (even a properly set revo bar can do just fine with practice) aren't taping into their weapon full potential.
I think that the arrows wil crash completely crazy in price cause you consume so many
That’s… not a crash then?
If they're used super fast, there's gonna be more demand so they'll actually go up
I get it, you made an australian joke, right mate?
Because when an item crash in australia, it actually goes to the moon!
@@3rdAgeSoap except at the price they will never be worth using, so wont be a demand. think thats what he is getting at, and i agree. none of the arrows are worth using since youll never make money at any boss
@@karters1528 free arrows are too expensive lmao..? wont use them eh.? some poor noobs might not use them, thats to be expected tho
They are used up way way way to fast though! I totally understand they should be expensive but it would be cool if they where consumed slower
Yeah, it definitely needs like a chance of not being consumed. Pretty sure bakrims like emerald are 55% chance of NOT being consumed, which definitely helps with upkeep
Legacy
@@coltonkelly6303 auto attacks fire arrows lmao, be no different really, every attack will use an arrow regardless of being on legacy, magic uses runes every cast the same if on legacy
@@ianhopkins7457 uses them much more slowly and possibly more efficiently in legacy
@@coltonkelly6303 when i tried this, it was using runes every cast, but arrows/bolts were saved due to ava`s device chance, take that away and most arrows are gone when fired, the new arrows are functioning just like they would if they were in osrs, you shoot it you lose it lol
All this time I never knew sgb could use other arrows than its own... wtf 😑
I sold my sgb shadow few years ago, sad
@@johncure5798 lmao bro I feel ya. I sold it when it was like 850m.... I came back 3 months ago and couldn't believe how much it was 😭
well now you know :)
love you
Legend arts in my comments? I love your work man :)
"Beat out my fsoa pb" had me sold right there. Lmao time to spend my hard earned gp.
Edit: Hahaha wait a minute. Spending 19m/hr killing a boss??? Yeah gunna wait for Jagex on that note
Keep in mind that the fsoa works well almost everywhere, the bik arrows are only good for some bosses. Same for jas. Where they do work though, they work very well
Edit: I could probably also still increase my fsoa times easily, its just that these arrows require no switching to get good times
@@ProtoxxGaming oh no for sure. I was just thinking for this boss this will probably what I go with. I dont mind switching but I'd rather not haha. I havent fought this boss yet and I've been playing for a year lol.
all updates were to make all styles equal more or less yet again melee is the bottom of the 3
tbh prices should be very high because of how op this shit is, maybe 4-5 m /h
So dead content to irons?
Bad game balance, no thanks
@@Fridge_Fiend why irons think that The game balance is supposed to be arround them? The oficial game is The game with trade and should be balanced arround that aswell..... God iron Man when Was released Was way more challenging , u guys want ez iron Man mode, get real or quit that mode. Just add mtx to It already, since you want every drop to Help you
man im so glad i stopped rs3 lmao
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@@ProtoxxGaming don’t tell anyone please 😉😆
not frog arrows bad update bad content.
They are close, at least the arrows are green
Someone buy my account🤦🏾♂️I spent so many hours getting 99s and 120s that I don’t want it to go to waste
Did u not have fun doing it?
@@ProtoxxGaming i had good times and also times that made me cry as an adult (I lost billions staking a couple of years ago within like 4 hours and sold my MacBook) ultimately I could have spent my time more wisely growing up in hindsight
@@BSMceo Details? How much?
@@gauge3156I’m not selling it for less than 400 I can’t justify it and wym details you gotta dm me or something for all that lol