Thank you Dave. I have a q2 and a7iv. I did a comparison between the photos after using your preset. They look really close. It makes me think I can sell my q2 and save up a little for a M series since I can use my Sony for the "Leica look" for the time being. Very cool! Keep up the good work and I like your website a lot!
Unfortunately I cannot import the XMP File into Lightroom Classic and use it. It just doesn't show up in my presets, but I can see it in the folder on my Mac. Am I missing a step here?
Dude, I wanted to comment that you did an amazing job on matching the Sony pictures to the Leica, but for myself it would be definitely impossible, because a) I wouldn't have time to do this on every picture and b) I'm slightly color blind - making color grading not fun (one of the reason, why I got the Leica Q2 Monochrome :D) BUT your Leica Look Profile for Sony is amazing!! Just tested it out on my family pictures shot on the Sony A7IV and looking at them it really reminds of Leica photos. Not sure, if it is just the warmer tone, but I just like it :) Awesome job man! Do you mind, if I use your profile in my future photo videos and reference you, your channel and this video in the description? I'm still blown away by this free profile :D
Man that’s so cool to hear that you enjoyed the profile! Q2 mono… jealous! I’d love to have a mono someday. Thanks for the kind words, and of course you can use whatever you want and reference my channel. Appreciate the shout out!
@@davidherring awesome thanks man! 👍 I‘m curious how your profile will look on Sony ZV E10 files and will now plan a video about this. But first I have to go out and take some pictures 🤗
Thanks Dave! Another interesting video! I hope you keep this up because you’re now one of my favorites to watch. I was interested in this not because I have a Sony but I do have several Fujis. I would like to do the same. My first instinct would have been to tweak color calibration but maybe I’m wrong as you got so darn close. Thanks again for a super informative video! BTW - looking forward to the tattoo video 😊.
Thanks Jason! I use Lightroom these days, not Lightroom Classic, and it doesn’t have color calibration. Otherwise I would have used it, too! And I love the Fuji system, and had an XT3 a few years ago and until recently had a x100v as my EDC camera. I sold it when I bought the Q2 and it became my EDC. Fuji has its own look, and I imagine it would be harder to do this with Fuji. If I remember correctly, they actually have a different pixel array on their sensors than Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. who use a more traditional pixel array. Somewhere on Google there’s an article about this 😂
I downloaded the preset and tried to add it to Lightroom but it’s not popping up! When I try to add it again it says error preset has already been added
Your opinion on using a MacBeth Color checker, Get WB the same, then equalize RGB and see how close you are. Do not do it by eye, but measure the channel in Photoshop or camera raw. I would use the same lens and adapt it Nikon, Sony etc.
These LUT/Profile videos are always done at daylight colour temperature. Either at golden hour or in the middle of the day. I'd like to see one where they're doing it in a darkly lit room with bad warm lights. Show us that the profile holds up under those settings and can still look like the Leica would.
Suddenly the Leica / Sony series makes so much more sense to me. I thought you were doing a comparison which would lead to a recommendation. But now it makes so much more sense. You are doing a comparison which leads to the use of both systems together. How cool! Your future projects are going to be fun to see and learn from. I may try your free profile - but I do not use lightroom - I wonder if it would work in Luminar Neo? Also, my M mount camera is a M8.2 which uses a VERY different sensor than the M10. So I suspect the profile would not work well at all. But your comments in this video could guide me in making a Luminar Neo profile to "match" my M8.2 with my Sony A7R5. Gotta give that some thought.....
Thanks Bert! I don’t see a day where my Sony gets put aside for a full Leica setup, so I’ve been wanting to find a way to harmonize the two camera systems for 1) me to have fun and 2) deliver consistent results to clients. Has a portrait shoot yesterday, and mixed the two systems a bit. Very happy with what I was able to deliver! I don’t think anyone could look at the portraits and say “oh that one is definitely the Sony.” It was all on the M10, Q2, and A7R5. dave.online/dimplejethani
@@davidherring That is so cool. Lots of careful work gone into that ability. I looked at the linked site and tried to guess which images came from which camera for fun. You really matched those up very well, I think. That little Summicron is such a fun lens. I had one about seven years ago and enjoyed it. It is a natural lens for the M system.
@@davidherring I really enjoyed the 25mm f/2.8 Biogon ZM. There are some more modern choices now, I think. There is a huge selection of great M mount choices in Voigtlander, and Ziess, and Leica - Enjoy.
I learned a lot from the way you tweeked the colors in Lightroom. You explained what you were doing very well. I would have also liked to see side by side before and after photos of the Sony pictures.
Very nice work. What I do notice most is that there is still a bit of magenta cast going on with the dress at 10:47 Not sure how the Leica manages to avoid that, with other cameras there is a common tendency to drift towards green or magenta.
Yeah, I don’t know how Leica avoided that as well. I find Sony tends to go more green, at least compared to Canon. But Leica is consistently true to color, at least in my use cases.
Color science is just a starting point that's it. If you have a problem editing to look like a different camera brand you do one of two things you buy that brand or buy Cobalt Image profiles for Lightroom or Capture One.
There's plenty of evidence that the Leica Q3 and M11 cameras use the Sony sensor. Might have different colours micro-lenses, possibly. But developing high tech sensors like this is super expensive, and there's no way Leica can afford to so itself.
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Wow!!! The Photos look great! Thanks for the work and the sharing!!!!!
Thanks!
Thanks, Dave! I will look forward to using your profile!
Hope you like it!
Thank you Dave. I have a q2 and a7iv. I did a comparison between the photos after using your preset. They look really close.
It makes me think I can sell my q2 and save up a little for a M series since I can use my Sony for the "Leica look" for the time being.
Very cool! Keep up the good work and I like your website a lot!
Glad it worked out for you. Thanks for sharing!
Unfortunately I cannot import the XMP File into Lightroom Classic and use it. It just doesn't show up in my presets, but I can see it in the folder on my Mac. Am I missing a step here?
It’s a profile, not a preset. Check your profiles.
Thank you for making a free profile!
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Excellent video dude and congratulations on upgrading your audio on your channel!
Haha thanks! It’s on its way to getting better and better 💪🏼
I am def down with getting the Leica colors out of my Sony camera as I always thought the sky was too purple, etc. Thanks for the profile!
No problem! Enjoy!
Great video. Do you have a DNG file of this preset for use of it in lightroom mobile? thank you
Unfortunately no, this is a Lightroom Profile that must be installed via desktop. It’s not a preset.
Thanks, this worked really well for me! I've just switched to Sony from Fujifilm and been a bit disappointed with the colours so far.
Glad to hear!
really excellent work Dave. I'd consider bringing that magenta down just a touch as well.
Thank you!
Dude, I wanted to comment that you did an amazing job on matching the Sony pictures to the Leica, but for myself it would be definitely impossible, because a) I wouldn't have time to do this on every picture and b) I'm slightly color blind - making color grading not fun (one of the reason, why I got the Leica Q2 Monochrome :D)
BUT your Leica Look Profile for Sony is amazing!! Just tested it out on my family pictures shot on the Sony A7IV and looking at them it really reminds of Leica photos. Not sure, if it is just the warmer tone, but I just like it :)
Awesome job man! Do you mind, if I use your profile in my future photo videos and reference you, your channel and this video in the description?
I'm still blown away by this free profile :D
Man that’s so cool to hear that you enjoyed the profile! Q2 mono… jealous! I’d love to have a mono someday. Thanks for the kind words, and of course you can use whatever you want and reference my channel. Appreciate the shout out!
@@davidherring awesome thanks man! 👍
I‘m curious how your profile will look on Sony ZV E10 files and will now plan a video about this. But first I have to go out and take some pictures 🤗
loved this, thanks
No prob!
Interesting! I'm a digital Sony shooter and analog leica shooter. I gotta watch this later when I have the time :)
Sweet! Let me know what you think!
Where’s the “you getting tattooed” video? 😊. I just got my first tatt. No pain no gain Dave. Love the channel!
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Now with the leica m9, that would be magical!
It should work with any M camera!
I’m curious. Which picture profile did you use on the Sony a73?
I don’t remember, but likely Adobe Color or Standard.
If you’re referring to in-camera, none. I shot in RAW.
Thanks Dave! Another interesting video! I hope you keep this up because you’re now one of my favorites to watch.
I was interested in this not because I have a Sony but I do have several Fujis. I would like to do the same. My first instinct would have been to tweak color calibration but maybe I’m wrong as you got so darn close.
Thanks again for a super informative video! BTW - looking forward to the tattoo video 😊.
Thanks Jason! I use Lightroom these days, not Lightroom Classic, and it doesn’t have color calibration. Otherwise I would have used it, too! And I love the Fuji system, and had an XT3 a few years ago and until recently had a x100v as my EDC camera. I sold it when I bought the Q2 and it became my EDC. Fuji has its own look, and I imagine it would be harder to do this with Fuji. If I remember correctly, they actually have a different pixel array on their sensors than Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. who use a more traditional pixel array. Somewhere on Google there’s an article about this 😂
This was fascinating. How I’d love to see you do the same exercise with black and white. Thank you.
That would be fun! I feel for a fair test, I'd need a Leica Monochrome. That's on the wish list haha.
I downloaded the preset and tried to add it to Lightroom but it’s not popping up! When I try to add it again it says error preset has already been added
It’s a profile, not a preset. Check your profiles 💪🏼
Found it! Amazing work brotha
@@davidherring
Your opinion on using a MacBeth Color checker, Get WB the same, then equalize RGB and see how close you are. Do not do it by eye, but measure the channel in Photoshop or camera raw. I would use the same lens and adapt it Nikon, Sony etc.
That’s probably more technical than I’m interested in doing in this season of life.
Thank you for wonderful work, Dave! I have a question. What are you putting over the Leica logo?
Great question! These 12mm stickers fit perfectly over the logo. $6 for all 140 of your Leica cameras! a.co/d/33cvopC
@@davidherring Wow! That's a smart idea! Thank you for useful information. Then I can cover my 140 Leica logos😁
These LUT/Profile videos are always done at daylight colour temperature. Either at golden hour or in the middle of the day. I'd like to see one where they're doing it in a darkly lit room with bad warm lights. Show us that the profile holds up under those settings and can still look like the Leica would.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I’d be interested to see you do this with a color chart.
I may do that in the future!
How to save it in the mobile lightroom version
You can't do that with profiles on mobile as far as I know.
Suddenly the Leica / Sony series makes so much more sense to me. I thought you were doing a comparison which would lead to a recommendation. But now it makes so much more sense. You are doing a comparison which leads to the use of both systems together. How cool! Your future projects are going to be fun to see and learn from. I may try your free profile - but I do not use lightroom - I wonder if it would work in Luminar Neo? Also, my M mount camera is a M8.2 which uses a VERY different sensor than the M10. So I suspect the profile would not work well at all. But your comments in this video could guide me in making a Luminar Neo profile to "match" my M8.2 with my Sony A7R5. Gotta give that some thought.....
Thanks Bert! I don’t see a day where my Sony gets put aside for a full Leica setup, so I’ve been wanting to find a way to harmonize the two camera systems for 1) me to have fun and 2) deliver consistent results to clients. Has a portrait shoot yesterday, and mixed the two systems a bit. Very happy with what I was able to deliver! I don’t think anyone could look at the portraits and say “oh that one is definitely the Sony.” It was all on the M10, Q2, and A7R5. dave.online/dimplejethani
@@davidherring That is so cool. Lots of careful work gone into that ability. I looked at the linked site and tried to guess which images came from which camera for fun. You really matched those up very well, I think. That little Summicron is such a fun lens. I had one about seven years ago and enjoyed it. It is a natural lens for the M system.
Agreed! I also had a friend recommend this 35mm Voigtlander Ultron VMII and it’s really something. Has such a nice, vintage look with a ton of pop.
@@davidherring I really enjoyed the 25mm f/2.8 Biogon ZM. There are some more modern choices now, I think. There is a huge selection of great M mount choices in Voigtlander, and Ziess, and Leica - Enjoy.
Great video. Just subscribed and will check out more vids. A1 !!
Thanks! Welcome to our community!
I learned a lot from the way you tweeked the colors in Lightroom. You explained what you were doing very well. I would have also liked to see side by side before and after photos of the Sony pictures.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice work. What I do notice most is that there is still a bit of magenta cast going on with the dress at 10:47
Not sure how the Leica manages to avoid that, with other cameras there is a common tendency to drift towards green or magenta.
Yeah, I don’t know how Leica avoided that as well. I find Sony tends to go more green, at least compared to Canon. But Leica is consistently true to color, at least in my use cases.
It won't let me download the file
Hmm, strange! It gets downloaded multiple times everyday. Try a different browser. Let me know via the website if you keep having issues!
thank you
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@@davidherring i think it too warm
Downloaded profile and Subscribe! Thank you
Awesome! Thanks!
Color science is just a starting point that's it. If you have a problem editing to look like a different camera brand you do one of two things you buy that brand or buy Cobalt Image profiles for Lightroom or Capture One.
Thanks for the comment
There's plenty of evidence that the Leica Q3 and M11 cameras use the Sony sensor. Might have different colours micro-lenses, possibly. But developing high tech sensors like this is super expensive, and there's no way Leica can afford to so itself.
This test was done on the M10, before the M11. But I agree - it’s likely the same sensor. However, how that data is processed REALLY matters.
Try deep red and deep blue .....
Thanks
The tweaked Sony file looks more appealing…….on my screen.
Thanks for sharing!
Easier now since the M11 has a Sony sensor.
Mayyyyyybe. Doing a video on this soon.
The key question is, is there a Leica look - or is this just a marketing story to justify the crazy price tag?
No there's a look for sure.
The answer is no. Just buy a Leica. These clickbait videos are just getting out of control. Clowns for cash
Thanks for the feedback.