they should buff or rework that second skill, perhaps make it so that the orb leaves a gooey trail behind that increase kimmy’s movement speed while on it to make up for losing the dash. (ik that her 1st skill is mobility, but even so the 1.5 sec of extra movement speed is not that good and its pointless in open space)
she already has a movement speed increase when using her first skill and can pass through walls. i don't think a movement speed increase on her second skill is necessary. it would make it hard to escape from her especially with her having items that can slow you.
That's what I was thinking when I saw the skills scalings, they're allowing her to build physical effectively, not just crit, the attack speed of haaz and windtalker transforming into nice movement speed definitely complements her as well imo
They finally made her a utility mm with cc and slows. They refuse to buff her damage because she'd immediately become the most OP mm again, so giving her utility was the only other option.
True, I guess she is becoming more like Yve considering her strength is her compatibility with IQW. But now, I have also some mixed feelings with it, it's not like Rafaela's grand revamp or something. What was lacking is her 1st, 2nd, and Passive Skills respectively. The Ultimate is really useful, but her other skills lacks some solid rework.
Well, I'll feel like they should change certain things first. Like the first skill should allow us to use basic attack. The second skill should have kinda like a trail that slow enemies/ give movement speed to Kimmy.
They should make her second skill dash backward like her old and the trail I'm agreeing with you this would make her survivability much better@IrfanDaniel312
I think that's probably the point, Elgin. Since she can just collect and maintain energy by simply attacking enemies, the dash would be useless. She can even prep the energy by hitting minions and creeps. Sure, it won't be a lot, but it'll activate faster if you did that.
Maybe if her skill 2 was like vexana's old hi five . And maybe she can use basic attacks during skill 1 And all of her skills fill the energy bar and enhance them at full stacks . That would've been much better .
yeah elgin youre def right about dash skill , the old dash is way better . if only they made her flying state untargetable like how they did with first released ling it would be better tbh
She feels more like a mage than a mm. The devs made her more like a support than a dps. The problem is that all her current different builds of Kimmy are super fun to play but now she's gonna be stuck hiding behind teammates providing support instead of dmg. I like the concept that the devs were going for and it makes her less reliant on farm as she can join fights early as a support especially when ganking but we're gonna miss her old gameplay.
The problem with this revamped Kimmy is that they removed the auto aim on her basic atk which sucks (probably cuz she'd go op once they return the auto aim). Skill 1 is kinda good but the duration is just too short they should just make 2.5 secs and just adjust the chemical balls damage. While skill 2 is helpful with the vision it needs faster casting experience. And lastly for skill 3 it's pretty good no complain haha.
i have played the new kimmy and personally, she is more of a utility hero than a dps hero, no dash sucks, for first skill as elgin said being able to attack while flying qould help, second skill should still be a dash with extra effect?, i do have mixed feeling for her ult
Her ult is like aldous and tigreal fused I mean boy with boy girl ✨ g e n a t a t i c s✨ I swear the comment on this gonna be wil so I'm gonna say this just in case"THIs IS NOTHING TO DO WITH SE-"
Well, Moontoon could make her first skill dash forward, but reduce her bonus movement speed like 20%, so she can still have a dash move. And when using ultimate, she gain full energy bar so she can actually deal some damage. After revamp, she doesn't have any burst-type damage, what she gonna do in combat? Building up energy bar while every enemy run away?
Here is my suggestion: Passive: Fills up (8% for heroes, 6% for creeps (includes turtle and lord), 4% for others) energy per hit. The spill range and radius increases as the energy fills and also the damage dealt. The energy gradually decreases 10% per 1 seconds if not attacking units for 3 seconds. 1st Skill: Slightly Dash and launch rockets that knocks enemies. After that Flies around and gains movement speed. Hero can also use skills and basic attack while flying. 2nd Skill: Launch a rocket like projectile that pulls enemies on the center. Ultimate: Same as Before.
Elginnnn, can you make a video regarding Magic Chess? Do all players need to pre register for that new Magic Chess Go Go? What happens if we don't pre reg?
Maybe just me but if they can turn the flying skill added dash skill as well that be great, kinda weird kimmy doesnt have escape skill anymore. And the saddest part is her passive, slow build up energy and no more splash damage
2nd skill should leave acid that burns them just remove the slow cc as to balance. Her new passive should be her old 1st skill. 1st skill is fine just like what u said if they made her to shoot her basic attack while flying, it would be better.
I really beleive putting the dash to her revamped second skill.what I am trying to say is that put both seconds together and the dash is still back wards. And buff the ULT damage a "Little" and maybe her basic attack. And make her basic attack whole first I think she would be amazing like this but for now,I would pick her any day
she would be more FUN to use if the 2nd skill leaves a trail that makes the duration of the 1st skill longer, plus she should be able to deal enhanced basic attacks during 1st skill. Tried her for a few times and her damage is kind of lacking, but rn she's fun to play.
Point number 1: I agree with this, probably if they can make optimize her energy during laning phase and hitting minions, she will be great Point number 2: i think the projectiles that came out was supposed to be her ‘basic atk’ during the dash. It makes sense Point number 3: you keep saying kimmy has no more dash but the new skill 1 exists, it’s a slower version with damage though. Point 4: i love the new ult
With this skill set revamp, she traded her burst damage into a team fight mayhem. Her new first skill is a better version of her old second skill dash. I'm already loving this revamp mainly because of her 1st and Ult skill. I'm already cooking up some outplays with those.
The second need to stay as it is and provide vision to upon hiting target with a backward dash in it and the first need to be longer a bit without the missile and a good dmg on the ult but nerf it later
It's okay, actually better imo. All skills crit and the NAs are considered spells? That's good. The energy bar might be tweaked a bit coz that will be a problem in the laning phase.
If you compare her skill set to Zhuxin, she's balanced or probably below average. The 2nd skill could do more, like a slow or something. She'll definitely feel like an actual Mage now. The ultimate is actually great. She can definitely use the Cooldown item thingy. 1st skill is the new dash now.
be patience guys, this is her first release on the advance server. I believe they will take note the criticism of players, making her more useful in the future
Kimmy's game is simple. She is one of the marksmen best in neutral kiting. Hard to catch when chasing her, and hard to escape when running away from her. She can also snipe enemies if they are able to escape, or is a wandering 1hp bar. I simply can't find that gameplay here. She can't attack during that slow flying and that's supposed to be the replacement for her dash? The 2nd skill seems out of place and is just there. She doesn't really need vision as her basic attacks are direction based rather than targetted. The Ult is nice and seems like a set for the enemies, but since it is very long in range, it seems out of reach for Kimmy. They need to keep her neutral play.
perhaps make her second skill work like Clint's Second Skill make her do a dash after she fire that big orb considering its slow as hell it should be powerful enough to knock her back fr fr
I think this revamp is gonna be like the granger one, some one said before that the old granger is better, but when they released it it turned out to be the most picked heroes, and mostly banned heroes as of today, maybe they will make a few changes and make it pretty good revamped
Kimmy has been so bad for years now and the revamp makes me kinda disappointed, why does granger get a good revamp while Kimmy only get this? Skill 2 and ult I think is worse than before and Skill 1 is literally just like Novaria skill 2 but without damage and shorter fly time, and the basic attack is so short and probably needs you to get much closer to the enemies which is really bad considering how squishy Kimmy is even when compared to other marksman.
they should buff or rework that second skill, perhaps make it so that the orb leaves a gooey trail behind that increase kimmy’s movement speed while on it to make up for losing the dash. (ik that her 1st skill is mobility, but even so the 1.5 sec of extra movement speed is not that good and its pointless in open space)
It's better if her second skill can let her change weapon like Beatrix, Ping splash damage, Blue slow, green for regen, red with burn
@@yuijin1770 That would be cool and op ig..
@@yuijin1770too much
she already has a movement speed increase when using her first skill and can pass through walls. i don't think a movement speed increase on her second skill is necessary. it would make it hard to escape from her especially with her having items that can slow you.
there is another version of her skill 2 where she kneels and shoots projectiles in an area, it was unfinished but kinda sad they didn't go for that
Another thing people noticed is that every damage she deals including skills can crit, and now has full lifesteal ratio for her basic attacks
That's what I was thinking when I saw the skills scalings, they're allowing her to build physical effectively, not just crit, the attack speed of haaz and windtalker transforming into nice movement speed definitely complements her as well imo
Her basic attacks are now skill damage btw, so it cannot trigger lifesteal, only spell vamp
Her enhanct basic attack count as skill now btw
Hey! Elgin what will happen if u draw 10 in aurora summon with 90 luck point (Sana makita)❤
Finally that jetpack seems useful 😆
Copy comments from hororo chan lmfao
Kimmy still ain't got sht on my Beatrix 😞
@@neronero4946 nope
@@kenzosama96 yes
@@neronero4946 deal with it
They finally made her a utility mm with cc and slows. They refuse to buff her damage because she'd immediately become the most OP mm again, so giving her utility was the only other option.
True, I guess she is becoming more like Yve considering her strength is her compatibility with IQW.
But now, I have also some mixed feelings with it, it's not like Rafaela's grand revamp or something.
What was lacking is her 1st, 2nd, and Passive Skills respectively. The Ultimate is really useful, but her other skills lacks some solid rework.
i hate how they nerfed the sensitivity of the aiming!!
Kimmy first skill: I believe I can fly!
Kimmy first skill: I believe I can tough the sky!
@@saifjamal435 STAR WARS for kimmy jet
hahahahha I suddenly remember R Kelly welp, R Kimmy hahahaha
But she also can fly already 😂
Any idea when this is coming to live servers??
They made kimmy as a utility Hero than a Marksman, i think if this goes to release its an end of an era for kimmy main users, as damage dealers.
now she will be a proper midlane , since kimmy gold lane doesn't work her early damage isn't that great and her late game is worst😂
the same treatment goes to Aurora, and now she's one of the most-picked mages in game
The end of an era for Kimmy player already happened like 5 years ago and it has never came back since lol
@@DiurnusKnight exactly, physical kimmy was always the best for me, plus i liked her 1st skill to be on/off switch just like how old hanabi was
Bruhh so dramatic
As a kimmy main, this seems like a very good revamp. Cant wait to try this. But also has its downsides cuz i love her one hit ulti
Well, I'll feel like they should change certain things first.
Like the first skill should allow us to use basic attack.
The second skill should have kinda like a trail that slow enemies/ give movement speed to Kimmy.
They should make her second skill dash backward like her old and the trail I'm agreeing with you this would make her survivability much better@IrfanDaniel312
Nah... I prefer old kimmy
@IrfanDaniel312 maybe it's unfinished
I want moonton make her ultimate damage is the same as the official server because i like one shot my enemies 2:57
Her first and second skill reminds me of smolder from LoL
Ikr
Real
Just don't copy that stupidly OP Cancer stack mechanic and we're good
Tf is that
MOOOMM
Thanks!
3:50 Our turret is not ready 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
😂
The 2nd skill be more faster and something so its not just a big bubble and just slows the enemies
Alessio from HOK: "Who are you?"
Kimmy: "I am you but slower..."
Smolder from league of legends: *points at Kimmy* "you're me. But human."
EXACTLY ahahahaha
Tristana to Alessio: "first time?"
I think it's closer to Meng Ya
Meng ya🤣
ranged version of tigreal ult sounds so busted
Also note that it seems to not be stoppable, the only problem is it colliding with the frontline heroes only unless you get a good angle.
can lolita reflect it?
@@josephjin7613100% sure she will be able to reflect it
@@josephjin7613 Any projectiles. Lolita can reflect it back. 100%
@@josephjin7613even her S2 and S1. It will just have an arc
Can't wait for the "Old(character name) better"
I think that's probably the point, Elgin. Since she can just collect and maintain energy by simply attacking enemies, the dash would be useless. She can even prep the energy by hitting minions and creeps. Sure, it won't be a lot, but it'll activate faster if you did that.
I am gonna love using that ult with valentina
When her ult successfully hits an enemy it should fill up the energy bar
1:18 Smolder ahhh skill
Both her first and second is smolder ahh skill
They should add dash in her 2nd skill and keep old ultimate untouched
probably like a recoil as a dash for her 2nd skill.
So make her slippery?? With overwhelming damage ??
Yea sounds like she would get nerfed badly later on
@LoisGriffin9 she would still get nerfed to ground later on so stop bootlicking
@@darkknight04299 then let her get nerfed she's in the slums anyway
@@LoisGriffin9 get out u troll
Maybe if her skill 2 was like vexana's old hi five .
And maybe she can use basic attacks during skill 1
And all of her skills fill the energy bar and enhance them at full stacks .
That would've been much better .
the earlier version of her revamp is that she is untargetable during her 1st skill flight. i guess they removed it.
An absolutely unescessary revamp she is already good the way she is
Damn I'll miss so much the one shooting ultimate
For those who are League players, Kimmy's skill 1 and 2 are actually the same as Smolder's Flap flap skill and sneeze skill
Moonton: Kimmy revamp
Me: why is this hero still in the game...
what did poor kimmy even do to you…
yeah elgin youre def right about dash skill , the old dash is way better . if only they made her flying state untargetable like how they did with first released ling it would be better tbh
It would be too op
She feels more like a mage than a mm. The devs made her more like a support than a dps. The problem is that all her current different builds of Kimmy are super fun to play but now she's gonna be stuck hiding behind teammates providing support instead of dmg.
I like the concept that the devs were going for and it makes her less reliant on farm as she can join fights early as a support especially when ganking but we're gonna miss her old gameplay.
Just keep the old second skill for her, filling up the energy bar while having a mobility
The problem with this revamped Kimmy is that they removed the auto aim on her basic atk which sucks (probably cuz she'd go op once they return the auto aim). Skill 1 is kinda good but the duration is just too short they should just make 2.5 secs and just adjust the chemical balls damage. While skill 2 is helpful with the vision it needs faster casting experience. And lastly for skill 3 it's pretty good no complain haha.
I think she should be able to attack while using her first skill. And also a revamp for her second skill.
Finally that jet pack came in handy
i have played the new kimmy and personally, she is more of a utility hero than a dps hero, no dash sucks, for first skill as elgin said being able to attack while flying qould help, second skill should still be a dash with extra effect?, i do have mixed feeling for her ult
Her ult is like aldous and tigreal fused I mean boy with boy girl ✨ g e n a t a t i c s✨
I swear the comment on this gonna be wil so I'm gonna say this just in case"THIs IS NOTHING TO DO WITH SE-"
Well, Moontoon could make her first skill dash forward, but reduce her bonus movement speed like 20%, so she can still have a dash move. And when using ultimate, she gain full energy bar so she can actually deal some damage. After revamp, she doesn't have any burst-type damage, what she gonna do in combat? Building up energy bar while every enemy run away?
Here is my suggestion:
Passive:
Fills up (8% for heroes, 6% for creeps (includes turtle and lord), 4% for others) energy per hit.
The spill range and radius increases as the energy fills and also the damage dealt.
The energy gradually decreases 10% per 1 seconds if not attacking units for 3 seconds.
1st Skill:
Slightly Dash and launch rockets that knocks enemies.
After that Flies around and gains movement speed.
Hero can also use skills and basic attack while flying.
2nd Skill:
Launch a rocket like projectile that pulls enemies on the center.
Ultimate:
Same as Before.
I'm mainly excited about the new skin effects DEFINITELY THE DRAGON TAMER ONE imagine using the ice wings itd be so cool
Kimmy without dash gonna make every assasin smile gleefully 😂😂😂
Why do i find her jumping through walls so adorable 😂❤
As a former kimmy user,
What all i can say is, her rework is like, his new role was SUPPORT Roamer, not a mage/marksman anymore hahah
MM and Assassin revamp: OP with no nerf
Mages and roamer revamp: Either pathetic or instant nerf
Moonton favoritism. Stop giving devs more ideas Elgin
This revamp isn't OP, it's not even close to being one
They just made her kit worse.
Change MM to fighter, only granger become better
aurora revamp?? helloo?? One of the best mages rn
Nana molina revamp?? damage buff??
@@imzelone Nana's not even a revamp but yes she is still a powerhouse
Aurora on the other hand was only slightly op, then balanced
Elginnnn, can you make a video regarding Magic Chess? Do all players need to pre register for that new Magic Chess Go Go? What happens if we don't pre reg?
Can you talk about the new hero 129 wuzetian I'm waiting a video about you explaining some details and skills on wu zetian
Finally With over 1k matches with kimmy and all the skin
Kimmy weaher😢 3:20
Now we know why Kimmy's blaster releases pink goo
Wow, she works like a Mage now. I'm interested.
Insane! Straight up a smolder rework
the sound effect on her basic attack is like from plant vs zombies
Jst started using kimmy tis season n wow gg revamp 🎉
her ult is so damn op.
That second skill makes me wanna click the 2nd skill button again to tp to the orb. Alice main here btw.
Maybe just me but if they can turn the flying skill added dash skill as well that be great, kinda weird kimmy doesnt have escape skill anymore. And the saddest part is her passive, slow build up energy and no more splash damage
2nd skill should leave acid that burns them just remove the slow cc as to balance. Her new passive should be her old 1st skill. 1st skill is fine just like what u said if they made her to shoot her basic attack while flying, it would be better.
Wanted to see the changes with the Stormtrooper skin
Yes Finally!!! 🤩
But need crit item for this revamp.
Love that revamped kimmy! ❤❤
Banning section: Are you sure?
roam/utility kimmy coming? 👀
Good idea 😂
I really beleive putting the dash to her revamped second skill.what I am trying to say is that put both seconds together and the dash is still back wards.
And buff the ULT damage a "Little" and maybe her basic attack.
And make her basic attack whole first
I think she would be amazing like this but for now,I would pick her any day
she would be more FUN to use if the 2nd skill leaves a trail that makes the duration of the 1st skill longer, plus she should be able to deal enhanced basic attacks during 1st skill. Tried her for a few times and her damage is kind of lacking, but rn she's fun to play.
My roamer-trolling sense is tingling.
Point number 1: I agree with this, probably if they can make optimize her energy during laning phase and hitting minions, she will be great
Point number 2: i think the projectiles that came out was supposed to be her ‘basic atk’ during the dash. It makes sense
Point number 3: you keep saying kimmy has no more dash but the new skill 1 exists, it’s a slower version with damage though.
Point 4: i love the new ult
Kimmy + tigreal might be the best hero combination after this revamp drops
I hope the revamp skins are good as well
With this skill set revamp, she traded her burst damage into a team fight mayhem. Her new first skill is a better version of her old second skill dash.
I'm already loving this revamp mainly because of her 1st and Ult skill. I'm already cooking up some outplays with those.
I think this is perfect honestly I love it
The second need to stay as it is and provide vision to upon hiting target with a backward dash in it and the first need to be longer a bit without the missile and a good dmg on the ult but nerf it later
I hope she could dash backwards after firing that Goo😢like clint’s skill but keeps the damaging trail of liquid like what she currently have
New year, new kimmy revamp
welcome back smolder
That attack sfx couldn't be real
It's okay, actually better imo. All skills crit and the NAs are considered spells? That's good. The energy bar might be tweaked a bit coz that will be a problem in the laning phase.
If you compare her skill set to Zhuxin, she's balanced or probably below average. The 2nd skill could do more, like a slow or something. She'll definitely feel like an actual Mage now. The ultimate is actually great. She can definitely use the Cooldown item thingy. 1st skill is the new dash now.
be patience guys, this is her first release on the advance server. I believe they will take note the criticism of players, making her more useful in the future
Kimmy fits better as a support with her revamp
Just buff her damage output and change her 2nd skill, make it much faster. The new ultimate is not necessary
Now they justneed to give valir his second revamp and estes and masha because we've got ling, Lancelot, and now kimmy
Omg this will be great for set first her ss then atlas ss
As main Kimmy, i very confused how to reacted abt this,, i happy bcs she got revamp but also sad bcs i will miss her old gameplay 😢
Kimmy's game is simple. She is one of the marksmen best in neutral kiting. Hard to catch when chasing her, and hard to escape when running away from her. She can also snipe enemies if they are able to escape, or is a wandering 1hp bar. I simply can't find that gameplay here. She can't attack during that slow flying and that's supposed to be the replacement for her dash? The 2nd skill seems out of place and is just there. She doesn't really need vision as her basic attacks are direction based rather than targetted. The Ult is nice and seems like a set for the enemies, but since it is very long in range, it seems out of reach for Kimmy. They need to keep her neutral play.
perhaps make her second skill work like Clint's Second Skill
make her do a dash after she fire that big orb
considering its slow as hell it should be powerful enough to knock her back fr fr
2 secondes into the video i and see a kimmy fly over the wall 😂
Mr. Elgin please give us the Information of starlight shop fragments
Lolita mains gonna have a field day after this beach is release on global
Nice can’t wait 😊
Ohh look another hero that can help stacking Skypiercer.
It would be good if they add mechanic on her 2nd skill that leaves a trail that prevents them from using dash/escape skill.
I think this revamp is gonna be like the granger one, some one said before that the old granger is better, but when they released it it turned out to be the most picked heroes, and mostly banned heroes as of today, maybe they will make a few changes and make it pretty good revamped
Can Kimmy proc Corrosive scythe and Ice Queen wand?
The subway surfer theme really matches revamped kimmy
I really want the old second skill be keeped it helps me survive in some situations
Will golden staff help to boost energy increase?
i think this is better than the current one i like her new ultimate good for team fight.
Is the revamp for alucards legend skin canclled i havent gotten any news on that
can lolita shield reflect her full stack basic atk? (bcs it looks like piercing enemies)
That 2nd skill taking 7 business days to arrive.
imagine this kimmy (mm) with her new ultimate, tigreal (tank) set, aurora’s (mage) ulti in lineup
diggie counter
@@vampipingdiggie cooked for dinner
@@vampiping banning humpty dumpty exist
Lolita gonna happy to meet Kimmy 😂
Finally Kimmy Meta is Back!!! 🤩
Why not if the current version if kimmy is lagging behind?
OH so now she is just Smolder with Oriyana ult
Kimmy has been so bad for years now and the revamp makes me kinda disappointed, why does granger get a good revamp while Kimmy only get this? Skill 2 and ult I think is worse than before and Skill 1 is literally just like Novaria skill 2 but without damage and shorter fly time, and the basic attack is so short and probably needs you to get much closer to the enemies which is really bad considering how squishy Kimmy is even when compared to other marksman.