"Ahhhh, I gotta maintain this thing!?" This is how I feel about owning a car, having kids, helping people, having a physical body, being a girl, being present in life, etc...
I can relate, physical work, activities, it so tiring and boring to me and not enjoying for here and now at all, just living at present moments (se) thing and especially routine activities that seems monotomic to me and no creative ideas, mundane procedures (si) thing such a torment to me, because this cocnitive function is so nonexistant to me, but learned how face it, if need for sake for personal matters
S as a demon is ruining my life. The amount of bills and fines for not remembering to pay things, letting the physical world pile up... I can do it and when I do, I do the S real well but it don't last for long and I'm back to getting overwhelmed by simple shit xD
Same here, the trick is to man up and do something about it. I make lists of simple shit i have to do. It actually feels more intuitive when it's on a list to do.
Joey exactly, your right. I make lists but I forget the lists...I'm dyslexic/dyspraxic too so it's really just a joke :'D But Dave's videos are so helpful, we just gotta put the work in. I find writing things on a white board a game changer than writing notes on paper. Simple change but 100% more effective for me. I can use my Ne and get creative with the board, making achieving goals fun and you don't lose the information! So anyone who can't do lists, whiteboard it!
In Portugal we have a thing called "Direct Debit" where you give your bank account and all the bills are automatically debitated from your bank account in a date that you choose (I choose the beginning of the month, when I have more money). It's a lot more easy...
@@farrex0 "You can't fix that! This is something that only a few people that put up a lot of hours in it might be able to fix." _ Hold my beer! Gonna spend the whole night learning this shit....
I feel like whatever we have in the Child slot, or the third function, is very whiny when it's negative. I'm an INTP, and my Si child makes me very good at remembering information when I'm excited about it, but it also makes me pouty and childish when someone imposes their rules on me. ESPECIALLY if the rules don't make sense. Edit: I mean this in contrast to my bottom function, Fe, which makes me more nervous and awkward than whiny.
I laughed at this, it's so true. I base my decisions on how much "work" it will take me to manage and maintain it... (where am I going to store it?maintenance, etc) things and people included, which is why I am so careful with what I take on. My Se boils down to my sense of how much responsibility it's going to "cost" me. Ugh.
OMG! I completely relate. I’m an INTJ female and my husband is an ESTP. He: let’s buy x. Me: how much will it cost, we should look at all major competitors, prices, maintenance issues, etc etc etc. he doesn’t get it and it makes him crazy. He always says ”don’t worry about it, we’ll deal with it when the time comes.” Me: 😤. 😂🤣😋
This reminds me of my garden in my front yard. My master plan was to create a self-sustaining ecosystem so I wouldn't have to do any upkeep. I didn't grasp the concept of weeds. If you've seen Stranger Things season two, weeds are essentially the Upside Down's network that goes underneath the entire town, their roots everywhere, impossible to destroy. Weeding is the worst. Tedious repetitive nonstop sensory horror! But it does allow the mind to wander... (Don't even get me started on grocery shopping, eating, showering, etc. The sensory world exacts so many repeated demands.)
@@theshriekinghominin1760 Yeah, but in a parasitic fashion. Something is only really a weed when it spreads too rapidly and stifles other life. They're like Mother Earth's version of cancer.
So sometimes when I’m fed up with my room I’ll clean it all in one day and maintain it for a little while. Last time my room was clean I went to visit my cousin and I saw how messy his room was and started to lecture him about it. I went all Jordan Peterson “Clean your room!” Then after my room got messy again I realized I’m a horrible hypocrite, I have not yet cleaned it up.
I'm an ENFP who spent one year working in an organic chemistry research lab. Man it felt like utter hell and I made no meaningful connections but damn if it didn't make me respect the sensory. Safety first if you like your limbs!
INTJ female here and I get it. I took organic and the paperwork was ok, but having to pay attention to EVERY lab minuscule part, piece and procedure was agony. Although it did come in extremely handy when I worked at a plutonium reprocessing facility. Talk about limbs and other vital items. 😂
I find that the best way to make Si work (as an ENFP) is to either tie it into Ne or make it some kind of challenge or game for myself. For example, I’m absolutely (and notoriously) terrible at remembering faces of people I don’t know well, but if I make it a point to look at and remember the little details on people’s faces- more so than the general public ever has reason to- then suddenly it becomes a fun new game for myself. Does that person have a double eyelid? What kind of nose does the person I’m talking to have? Does she have a widow’s peak hairline or not? The uniqueness of the questions is what makes them fun, and now remembering faces is a little easier for me. Plus, I get to apply these facts and concepts to characters I create when I write stories, and I get a better sense of how they look in my mind. I know this seems odd and unnecessary, but when you apply these concepts to everyday life, it makes life more fun... and easier for you to navigate without getting bored or being chained up by mundane tasks. If doing the dishes is the race against a song playing on Spotify in the background, it’s a lot more fun than just... you know, doing dishes. If you’re sweeping the floor (do people actually do that?) and it’s super boring, just think of all the dust as tiny empires that you’re knocking to the ground with every single movement of the broom. Boom. Ne is entertained, I feel powerful now, and the room would get clean. Everybody wins 😂😂 right???
As an ENFP with ADHD I can confirm both the absolute necessity of this mind play and how effective it is - make it a game or somehow meaningful and the whole thing changes.
even thinking about all the Se i have to do is exhausting. because its never just one thing. it's always a god damn rabbit hole of shit you've got to do. just let me sit here and work with the pieces I already have
Se inferiors often do the same mistake over and over again too because they don't take note of their physical surroundings.I.E. Constantly switching the disposal or another light instead of the intended light because they don't stop and take note where each switch is. And, yes, I've done this too.
Is demon Se also when you get all shitty because a bunch of random crap is being thrown at you and you're like "GET OUT OF MY FACE I NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT FUCK" Edit: like if you're carrying this box of shit and then some dude comes up and starts trying to give you instructions but you already know what you're doing and theres fucking loud ass music blasting and you cant hear him properly and then your fucking shoelace comes undone and your kid starts hassling you for food ect.
For Consume-Sleep lead intuitives (possibly a quarter of ENTPs and ENFPs), the Sleep half of Si is actually a pleasure: compiling and analyzing data. So many more juicy conclusions (Consume) can be gleaned from well-processed data (Sleep). The Blast side of Si is an absolute nightmare, however. Memorization, simple repetitive tasks, following rote instructions blindly... Feels like being assimilated by the Borg.
Consume-Sleep ENFP here. Every single word of this is absolutely me. My Sleep function is amazing. Blast is my worst nightmare. So I end up feeling super smart in my head about the concepts I dream about, but then I have absolutely ZERO work to show for it. I realized the other day that all of my greatest accomplishments live up in my mind... 😩😩 Blast is such a struggle!! Edit: I will say that I find rote memorization fun and always have. Although, I have photographic memory when it comes to words and my Ne also helps with memory by association, so that may be why. 😂 Simple repetitive tasks are fun because my mind drifts off when I do them, so they basically become daydreaming time for me. BUT STARTING?? Starting projects, following instructions to reach a goal?? Nooooooooo
@2:29 Intp programmer. This is totally me. I love starting new ideas and projects and conceptualizing things. As soon as i get into chaotic bug-hunting or rote data entry to make the idea work I have gotten bored and moved onto something else.
Ketan Kulkarni wrong. Your first two functions are your saviors, your third and fourth are your demons. INTP is TiNeSiFe. Si is his third function, therefore, a demon.
As a INTJ maintenance electrician i fix broken stuff all day, :p and I do mechanics for fun on weekends. But yes I work a lot with head phones on ignoring people listening to bible studies and interviews of personality theory stuff, so I'm in my head a lot.
Lol I am a Medical Laboratory Scientist at a small hospital. I am very Type A about getting tests done as quick as possible and off of my pending board. Ive seen parallels between myself and a head chef in a kitchen in how i function when around others. Not bossy, I just like to know what we are up against and where we are at with each pending test at all times. We all did MTBI and when we were reading my ENTJ result everyone was laughing as we were reading descriptions. I wanted to be honest with my answers and not just answer what i wish i was like so i had others who knew me well take it with me. Turns out thats the best way to do it... Your description on my type looking at the drone breaking down as an impedance is spot on when a machine in the lab breaks. I just want to get tests done. I dont want to deal with tiny intricate wires and tubing while on the phone with service for 45 minutes. I much rather have someone else address that, run around get what i am able to do finished, then during downtime, help them get it up and going. I very much enjoy your videos! My wife is an ISFJ so I think she has helped me become more balanced as I have with her.
I am an INTJ and I am always forward thinking. I would not make such an investment because intuition and thinking tell me it would be illogical. In fact many INTJs I have met will give you 100 reasons why you shouldn't, rather than encourage you to do something stupid like spontaneously buying something you cannot afford.
This is also, pretty much me in a nutshell. It's amusing, because I was discussing with my girlfriend yesterday and she pointed out how I tend to just take in a few amount of details, and immediately try to figure out what happened based on my own perceptions of what I thought happened, which is why it takes me awhile to do a lot of things. Though to be fair, it pays off a lot. Whenever I take Reading Comprehension tests, I was already skimming the story before we were told to do so.
Oh wow so that's what's wrong with me. Yeah anything that requires maintenance is a no go. I get really annoyed when I'm responsible for unesssacary stuff. Deep cleaning my house is just me putting away some stuff and throwing out or donating everything I don't want to be bothered with. I live in constant fear of the things I didnt notice or forgot to do coming back to bite me. I live for taking leaps with limited information. I will flat out skim instructions, long emails and zone out of conversations if I think I know what's coming next. There are movies I have started and will never finish because I figured out the ending a third of the way through and got bored.
Pretty sure im Ne aux then. I do the exact same things but I dont have too much trouble slowing down to get the facts eventually. My Si is still very immature and doesnt want to be controlled but its not a total ghost town.
i didn't ave a phone for the last two years (after i broke it) just because i hate the idea of fixing it, i can't bring myself to fix it or even buy new one , so i convinced myself that i don't need one and it's not worth my money lol
As an INTJ I think the military was pretty valuable because I was essentially forced to utilize and prioritize Se, so now all the arbitrary first world problem bullshit I would have ignored gets done now out of ingrained habit.
This was me the other day I wanted to buy a nice piano keyboard so I could getting into learning an instrument then after receiving it in the mail, I realized I needed books to learn, a case for it, more space to store it in my home, and a piano stand to place it on. Now I'm very annoyed that I didn't consider it earlier only planning out the lessons cause that was the fun part.
No body believes me when I say having to try to live is the worst part of living. Now I could tell them “see, some RUclips channel said I’m loony, so check mate!” Thank you guys for the dope content
Peace ShanonDave... Wait. I think I misunderstood something from a previous Demon Function video then.. Which, you may have clarified here. So, are you saying they/we *avoid* &/or *ignore* our Demon Function feedback? Or, that, we get caught slipping *because* of *using* our Demon Function as though it's a Savior Function?? For example: I have an INFJ friend. He LOVE'S doing Athletics (he clearly uses Se). He was also known to go to Raves back ITD & all that entails.. Until, he'd get burnt out &/or injured.. Because.. He'd get *SO* caught up dancing, socializing, or playing Football.. he wouldn't do basic things like stretching before & after Football practice & conscious hydration at said Raves (or just when he'd contra band binge..yikes).. It was as though he was *distracted* by his Se.. And, he *LOVED* it... Too much. It *ALWAYS* caught up to him. Then, after crashing out & getting all depressed (because he couldn't Se & feel "worthy"), he'd turn all "healer" guy & have some Ni insight that it (his injuries.. Or, whatever) was all connected.. He'd be all "enlightened" & "healed.." Then, a "new man..." He'd do it all again.. Honestly, it was pretty frustrating & sad to watch.. Anyhow.. Is that how the "Demon 'Tidal Wave'" works? Or, is that off? Elucidate please? Thanks 😎
WhoWillYouCallOnThen? In that regard me and your friend seem to be pretty similar. Yet, i dont think he is an INTJ, because in general engaging in your 4th function doesnt feel good even if everything goes according to plan. I suspect, that your friend has demon Se in 2nd or 3rd slot. I am an ENTJ with Te-Ni Savior and i notice, when i engage in Fi, it feels like hell. With Se on the other hand its more of a controlled outlet, that i enjoy from time to time, but after a while it feels like its going nowhere and i switch back to Ni. The reason, why he probably forgets hydrating and practicing, is that he doesnt organize things based on sensory and on top of that he doesnt use Se that often, which maybe is a result of him blocking it with Ni. Regarding my theory on the mistype, you should want to look into more precise, if you have the 4 functions Te-Fi-Ne-Si in your stack. Otherwise the chance of my theory being correct is pretty low. Hope i could help.
INFP: I got ear buds that 4 months later, I have a 12 month warranty and 2 months left to file a claim... Yeah, that's 6 months w/o ear buds b/c I don't want to look up all the things and jump through all the hoops to get them replaced. FML
Yay the quality going up Also Dave, could you please make a detailed explanation of the ENTJ favoring Te-Se , INFP favoring Fi-Si deal, whatever you call that whole situation?
me every time I play games: "Oh my gosh! I need to upgrade the characters, the skills, the ultimate, and I need to find good artifact?! And I need to have good weapon and upgrade it? And I need to find all those material sources? How about explore new map? new mission? Okay, I need to calm down. One by one. Set the priority. You can do this! Just do it slowly and get all done."
I love watches, but the chore of replacing the battery every year/2years actually is so tedious I refuse to buy any watches. I can only be tempted by a watch that I can charge(like those smartwatches), or one of those manual watches. Se demon lol.
pamelam4 I go a couple days without wearing it because the charging. But then I get annoyed because I got used to checking the time amongst other things. And I dislike being without it.
ENFP with demon Si. I have been wearing a broken watch every single day for a year now because I can’t be bothered to change the battery. Oh well. I think it’s enough of an accomplishment that I put on the watch every day, so there 😂
Hold up, am I actually an ENTP and not an ENFP? I have Se and Si demon sensing! I always use logic first and think about everything I approach. I use it to rationalize my emotions and make decisions. I thought this 'demon sensing' was *me feeding too much into my Fi* because I have perfectionist anxiety/ADHD and tend to be avoidant when I get overwhelmed. I thought because I give into this avoidant behavior that it meant I was Fi dominant. An ENFP with a well-developed Ti and Te. I need to keep studying the functions to eventually reach an answer!
Omg my life is all about breaking stuff. Half the time it’s because my life is a mess and I step on shit or somethings balanced on top of something else in a pile and falls over, and cause I’m clumsy. I don’t maintain shit.
I was recently told I have Demon Se, because I am always prepared to react to chaos when out in public. I believe this may be true but I want a better understanding Of what that means. This video Is detailed about what Demon Se is but I am still confused as to what that means and how it relates to me.
I'm studying architecture right now (ENTP), the courses are quite boring in comparison to what I had in highschool (!) but I go through hell just to organise my sleep/work schedule and most importantly having clean, complete, adhering to the rules physical models. Also, I realised that I seriously need to work on my personal style and find the most effective way to clean my goddamn flat. It takes me so much energy to do all this and stay focused and present, however I have to say that my anxiety has reduced and my mental health got better.
as an entj with an se demon i constantly have to remind myself to focus and that this is real and needs careful execution and persistent effort because other wise i just get done and then have a good plan fall flat (that couldve worked) because of this airheaded ni “tunnel vision”
Yes good Content. Now I understand my bored and burned out body...because of boring paper works...it was reducing my energies so much and all the loud environment also drained me for years, turning toxic into magic.
I think a lot of this has to do with the P vs J dynamic. I am very N dominant, but because I have a strong P, I will respect sensory information and not jump to conclusions too quickly. I will theorize and keep consuming sensory information to gradually update and refine my theories. I can see an NJ getting two pieces of sensory information and instantly deciding that they understand the entire system. Am I understanding this right?
Intj and enfp couple cleaning the house: INTJ: OK, I can't keep ignoring this, this mess is terrible and its just going to get more overwhelming. Let's clean up ENFP: it's not that bad. But if it makes you feel better we can tidy up a little. Just don't make it too sterile because that would stifle my creativity INTJ: OK, let's start by throwing away the trash ENFP: Ok--hey what are you doing, the Christmas decorations are not trash! INTJ: They're just another hassle, we need to simplify everything so I can relax and get back in my head. I'm not going to be pulling tinsel out of the vacuum cleaner. Now hand me that orphan shoe, the one with the missing sole ENFP: BUT I MIGHT NEED IT FOR SOMETHING!!
Lmao, I literally bought a drone and was pissed when I figured out I needed to buy propellers and all this other extra batteries and bullshit...INTJ here self and objectively typed Ni Fi
Nooooooo My cheap chinese 500 part trashcan cabinet thing will remain half put together in my kitchen for all eternity. Eff sensory, all the remaining parts spralled across the kitchen makes nice decor. Adds some charm.
Wait I thought the demon was the 8th function in your stack, like the 'worst' one? Isn't the 4th one usually called inferior? Anyway, despite my confusion I find this very accurate! Especially the drone part.
“You know we got all this tech, drones....” Me an ENFP: WHAT is he getting at? What is this? What does this have to do with anything? 1:40 commence my pikachu face. Don’t be calling me out like that.
I was just taking driving classes and lessons until we got to the point of the discussion on maintaining a car. I already thought up multiple inconvenient scenarios of my car breaking down, and this video just made me physically recoil.
As a INTP, its just so frustrating when you get the picture but you cannot apply it real because you dont dive deep into the details to make it practical.
it's way less depressing to me to find out that this is a part of my god damn type ! like. instead of getting hit with that sensory reality - most recently maintenence of my bike, having to order yet anohter part.... instead of it being depressing,,,, now i just know it's wired within my type. very good. thank u :)))
I don’t understand why everybody thinks it’s so cool to be an Intuitive on the internet like what? S as a demon ruins my life and now I gotta grow up and become a responsible adult too I’m so fucked!😩🔫
Enfp. Si. Schedules... billing cycles... I’ve had one successful tax return. I just could get to the rest, I gave away a lot of money I really need right now.
An excellent summary of the type of frustrating misunderstandings my brother (Si dom) and I (Ne dom) had growing up. My Ni-Ti friend says that if you made the example something not tangible it would be closer to his experience lol cuz apparently screw the toy, just make your own fantasy toy in your head so you can skip all the Se BS lol
I just want to clean the store, I hate dealing with customers because it's just another thing keeping me from what I want to do. Sounds fairly Se demon in my opinion.
So in other words to communicate credibility is important to be effective credibility is important. Part of having credibility is you must have facts straight. - ENFP -
Hm after looking this video I think that intuition could be one of my savior functions. I'm rather a clumsy person, forget things and hate paperwork and so things. But I don't think that someone likes paperwork. I can see the details and focus on them when it is an project what's important for me but can became overwhelmed by them but I think intuition fits me more. I'm perfectionist. I'm a dreamer, bored by the normal life. I don't whish dust from shelves or frequently clean the windows because it is an waste of time. I have different worldviews, views and thoughts to the world and to humans compared to other people, really idealistic and ethical. I would be happy to exchange me with other intuitives :)
ENTP one of the messy types easily distracted by ideas then forgot the main topic... When it comes to real physical and technical thing they do stupid things... like in cooking household chores and etc..
Their terms for 'demon' mean different things compared to the MBTI definitions; they call 'tertiary and inferior' functions 'demon' functions in OPS; same exact things, just different names
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"Ahhhh, I gotta maintain this thing!?" This is how I feel about owning a car, having kids, helping people, having a physical body, being a girl, being present in life, etc...
@@jellyfishi_ People have different things to be grateful for. No need to judge. -Also INFJ
Exactly how I feel about getting my guitar. I can play it, I can take care of it... until the time when I have to tune them and replace the strings.
literally lmfao
@@jellyfishi_ but how do you maintain these things? 😭 - ixfj
Ohhh fuck, is that the reason why I break shit....
My life in a nutshell. Here's 10 reasons why.
1. Already bored
Didn't last long though
I can relate, physical work, activities, it so tiring and boring to me and not enjoying for here and now at all, just living at present moments (se) thing and especially routine activities that seems monotomic to me and no creative ideas, mundane procedures (si) thing such a torment to me, because this cocnitive function is so nonexistant to me, but learned how face it, if need for sake for personal matters
S as a demon is ruining my life. The amount of bills and fines for not remembering to pay things, letting the physical world pile up... I can do it and when I do, I do the S real well but it don't last for long and I'm back to getting overwhelmed by simple shit xD
Same here, the trick is to man up and do something about it. I make lists of simple shit i have to do. It actually feels more intuitive when it's on a list to do.
Joey exactly, your right. I make lists but I forget the lists...I'm dyslexic/dyspraxic too so it's really just a joke :'D But Dave's videos are so helpful, we just gotta put the work in. I find writing things on a white board a game changer than writing notes on paper. Simple change but 100% more effective for me. I can use my Ne and get creative with the board, making achieving goals fun and you don't lose the information! So anyone who can't do lists, whiteboard it!
auto bill pay was absolutely created by someone with Demon Sensory. A real savior.
In Portugal we have a thing called "Direct Debit" where you give your bank account and all the bills are automatically debitated from your bank account in a date that you choose (I choose the beginning of the month, when I have more money). It's a lot more easy...
@@mlza2350 yeah but it has to have money in the bank account to avoid overdraft. It was created to exploit demon sensory.
But I don’t wannnnaaaaaaaaaa. -ENTP 😩
Mall_rat 3000 *Exactly* what I was thinking! Lol “But Daaaave... 😩”
Guilty as charged.
Unless someone tells me that I can't do it.
@@farrex0 "You can't fix that! This is something that only a few people that put up a lot of hours in it might be able to fix." _ Hold my beer! Gonna spend the whole night learning this shit....
I feel like whatever we have in the Child slot, or the third function, is very whiny when it's negative. I'm an INTP, and my Si child makes me very good at remembering information when I'm excited about it, but it also makes me pouty and childish when someone imposes their rules on me. ESPECIALLY if the rules don't make sense.
Edit: I mean this in contrast to my bottom function, Fe, which makes me more nervous and awkward than whiny.
I laughed at this, it's so true. I base my decisions on how much "work" it will take me to manage and maintain it... (where am I going to store it?maintenance, etc) things and people included, which is why I am so careful with what I take on. My Se boils down to my sense of how much responsibility it's going to "cost" me. Ugh.
OMG! I completely relate. I’m an INTJ female and my husband is an ESTP. He: let’s buy x. Me: how much will it cost, we should look at all major competitors, prices, maintenance issues, etc etc etc. he doesn’t get it and it makes him crazy. He always says ”don’t worry about it, we’ll deal with it when the time comes.” Me: 😤. 😂🤣😋
@@psleep4255 Wait I'm confused, I thought it was the opposite? 😂😭
@@everIark im confused too lol
probably istj@@everIark
This reminds me of my garden in my front yard. My master plan was to create a self-sustaining ecosystem so I wouldn't have to do any upkeep. I didn't grasp the concept of weeds. If you've seen Stranger Things season two, weeds are essentially the Upside Down's network that goes underneath the entire town, their roots everywhere, impossible to destroy. Weeding is the worst. Tedious repetitive nonstop sensory horror! But it does allow the mind to wander... (Don't even get me started on grocery shopping, eating, showering, etc. The sensory world exacts so many repeated demands.)
But weeds are part of the ecosystem.
@@theshriekinghominin1760 Yeah, but in a parasitic fashion. Something is only really a weed when it spreads too rapidly and stifles other life. They're like Mother Earth's version of cancer.
I absolutely love how you used such an intricate analogy to describe your sensory problems lollll
So sometimes when I’m fed up with my room I’ll clean it all in one day and maintain it for a little while. Last time my room was clean I went to visit my cousin and I saw how messy his room was and started to lecture him about it. I went all Jordan Peterson “Clean your room!” Then after my room got messy again I realized I’m a horrible hypocrite, I have not yet cleaned it up.
What type are you?
@@syedmaziburrahman3993 Probably an ENTJ
I'm an ENFP who spent one year working in an organic chemistry research lab. Man it felt like utter hell and I made no meaningful connections but damn if it didn't make me respect the sensory. Safety first if you like your limbs!
INTJ female here and I get it. I took organic and the paperwork was ok, but having to pay attention to EVERY lab minuscule part, piece and procedure was agony. Although it did come in extremely handy when I worked at a plutonium reprocessing facility. Talk about limbs and other vital items. 😂
Damn. Hats off to you!
I delegated the tasks to my group-mates in exchange for answering the theoretical problems in the book. Win-win.
@@amateruss ain't they going to resent you in the long run
@@notact4102 Resent me? They need me more than I need them.
I find that the best way to make Si work (as an ENFP) is to either tie it into Ne or make it some kind of challenge or game for myself. For example, I’m absolutely (and notoriously) terrible at remembering faces of people I don’t know well, but if I make it a point to look at and remember the little details on people’s faces- more so than the general public ever has reason to- then suddenly it becomes a fun new game for myself. Does that person have a double eyelid? What kind of nose does the person I’m talking to have? Does she have a widow’s peak hairline or not? The uniqueness of the questions is what makes them fun, and now remembering faces is a little easier for me. Plus, I get to apply these facts and concepts to characters I create when I write stories, and I get a better sense of how they look in my mind. I know this seems odd and unnecessary, but when you apply these concepts to everyday life, it makes life more fun... and easier for you to navigate without getting bored or being chained up by mundane tasks. If doing the dishes is the race against a song playing on Spotify in the background, it’s a lot more fun than just... you know, doing dishes. If you’re sweeping the floor (do people actually do that?) and it’s super boring, just think of all the dust as tiny empires that you’re knocking to the ground with every single movement of the broom. Boom. Ne is entertained, I feel powerful now, and the room would get clean. Everybody wins 😂😂 right???
so cool!
I do this with certain things and wish I'd apply it to many things. So cool, especially the sweeping part lol
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As an ENFP with ADHD I can confirm both the absolute necessity of this mind play and how effective it is - make it a game or somehow meaningful and the whole thing changes.
even thinking about all the Se i have to do is exhausting. because its never just one thing. it's always a god damn rabbit hole of shit you've got to do. just let me sit here and work with the pieces I already have
my demon Se expects a sacrifice from me every single day mann why i cant keep wasting my time doing nothing
Liber Lux "Why can't I keep wasting my time doing nothing"
Story of my life
Maybe you can conceptualize relaxation time as 'preparation for getting myself conditioned for the next obligation' ?
@@cyberneticbutterfly8506 that is a slippery slope
Se inferiors often do the same mistake over and over again too because they don't take note of their physical surroundings.I.E. Constantly switching the disposal or another light instead of the intended light because they don't stop and take note where each switch is. And, yes, I've done this too.
Andrea Barr Wouldn't high Ne low Si do that too?
I'm sure...and people who have tertiary or inferior Se have Si as their demon or blindspot in socionics so they would be weak there as well.
Is demon Se also when you get all shitty because a bunch of random crap is being thrown at you and you're like "GET OUT OF MY FACE I NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT FUCK"
Edit: like if you're carrying this box of shit and then some dude comes up and starts trying to give you instructions but you already know what you're doing and theres fucking loud ass music blasting and you cant hear him properly and then your fucking shoelace comes undone and your kid starts hassling you for food ect.
lol I relate this hardcore.
Si inferior also does that tho
Maybe we're just overwhelmed by sensory things .-.
For Consume-Sleep lead intuitives (possibly a quarter of ENTPs and ENFPs), the Sleep half of Si is actually a pleasure: compiling and analyzing data. So many more juicy conclusions (Consume) can be gleaned from well-processed data (Sleep). The Blast side of Si is an absolute nightmare, however. Memorization, simple repetitive tasks, following rote instructions blindly... Feels like being assimilated by the Borg.
Consume-Sleep ENFP here. Every single word of this is absolutely me. My Sleep function is amazing. Blast is my worst nightmare. So I end up feeling super smart in my head about the concepts I dream about, but then I have absolutely ZERO work to show for it. I realized the other day that all of my greatest accomplishments live up in my mind... 😩😩 Blast is such a struggle!!
Edit: I will say that I find rote memorization fun and always have. Although, I have photographic memory when it comes to words and my Ne also helps with memory by association, so that may be why. 😂 Simple repetitive tasks are fun because my mind drifts off when I do them, so they basically become daydreaming time for me. BUT STARTING?? Starting projects, following instructions to reach a goal?? Nooooooooo
This explains my favourite excuse “I am not being paid to make those types of decisions”.
Absolutely.
Me... considering a new item, hobby or task...
“Too many steps involved.... nah... NEXT!!!!”
@2:29 Intp programmer. This is totally me. I love starting new ideas and projects and conceptualizing things. As soon as i get into chaotic bug-hunting or rote data entry to make the idea work I have gotten bored and moved onto something else.
Ketan Kulkarni wrong. Your first two functions are your saviors, your third and fourth are your demons. INTP is TiNeSiFe. Si is his third function, therefore, a demon.
@Ketan Kulkarni @0:20 INTP is There as a 'may or may not'.
I'm CS graduate and I need to take a very long break whenever I have learned a lot about a language in order to be motivated to move forward.
That does sound very INTP lol
I'm just gonna go walk in the woods. -INFJ
As a demon sensor I just resolved the biggest chaos of my life... finding a perfect match in foundation colors 😂 I can sleep now.
As a INTJ maintenance electrician i fix broken stuff all day, :p and I do mechanics for fun on weekends. But yes I work a lot with head phones on ignoring people listening to bible studies and interviews of personality theory stuff, so I'm in my head a lot.
02:21 _seething hatred look thrown rightward towards 3D printer on desk_
WE SENSE DEMONS
Lol I am a Medical Laboratory Scientist at a small hospital. I am very Type A about getting tests done as quick as possible and off of my pending board. Ive seen parallels between myself and a head chef in a kitchen in how i function when around others. Not bossy, I just like to know what we are up against and where we are at with each pending test at all times. We all did MTBI and when we were reading my ENTJ result everyone was laughing as we were reading descriptions. I wanted to be honest with my answers and not just answer what i wish i was like so i had others who knew me well take it with me. Turns out thats the best way to do it...
Your description on my type looking at the drone breaking down as an impedance is spot on when a machine in the lab breaks. I just want to get tests done. I dont want to deal with tiny intricate wires and tubing while on the phone with service for 45 minutes. I much rather have someone else address that, run around get what i am able to do finished, then during downtime, help them get it up and going. I very much enjoy your videos! My wife is an ISFJ so I think she has helped me become more balanced as I have with her.
I am an INTJ and I am always forward thinking. I would not make such an investment because intuition and thinking tell me it would be illogical. In fact many INTJs I have met will give you 100 reasons why you shouldn't, rather than encourage you to do something stupid like spontaneously buying something you cannot afford.
This is also, pretty much me in a nutshell. It's amusing, because I was discussing with my girlfriend yesterday and she pointed out how I tend to just take in a few amount of details, and immediately try to figure out what happened based on my own perceptions of what I thought happened, which is why it takes me awhile to do a lot of things. Though to be fair, it pays off a lot. Whenever I take Reading Comprehension tests, I was already skimming the story before we were told to do so.
Ne-Si?
Cause same.
No wonder why Ni as savior cannot be in a relationship. I need to maintain this thing?
lol yeahhhhh
this is accurate i often make theories and ideas out of little to nothing, often im right, often im wrong
Oh wow so that's what's wrong with me. Yeah anything that requires maintenance is a no go. I get really annoyed when I'm responsible for unesssacary stuff. Deep cleaning my house is just me putting away some stuff and throwing out or donating everything I don't want to be bothered with. I live in constant fear of the things I didnt notice or forgot to do coming back to bite me. I live for taking leaps with limited information. I will flat out skim instructions, long emails and zone out of conversations if I think I know what's coming next. There are movies I have started and will never finish because I figured out the ending a third of the way through and got bored.
Pretty sure im Ne aux then. I do the exact same things but I dont have too much trouble slowing down to get the facts eventually. My Si is still very immature and doesnt want to be controlled but its not a total ghost town.
This is why I pay somebody to cut my grass
I am Ni dom and god... How I hate to be forced into the Se, I really would enjoy some tips, because all I wanna do is keep planing with concepts.
This is a very late reply but you should work closely with a sensor, it’ll balance you out
"I'm not paid enough," is one of my favorite expressions.
i didn't ave a phone for the last two years (after i broke it) just because i hate the idea of fixing it, i can't bring myself to fix it or even buy new one , so i convinced myself that i don't need one and it's not worth my money lol
My Si demon function I would imagine comes out in other ways, but I do not buy ANYTHING without thinking it through first.
Summary of my life = "this is so much chaos".
As an INTJ I think the military was pretty valuable because I was essentially forced to utilize and prioritize Se, so now all the arbitrary first world problem bullshit I would have ignored gets done now out of ingrained habit.
This was me the other day I wanted to buy a nice piano keyboard so I could getting into learning an instrument then after receiving it in the mail, I realized I needed books to learn, a case for it, more space to store it in my home, and a piano stand to place it on. Now I'm very annoyed that I didn't consider it earlier only planning out the lessons cause that was the fun part.
The Se demon is me all the time. This is how I know I'm an INFJ, the Ni stuff can be hard to understand buy Se and how much I suck at it isn't.
pamelam4 That's how I realized I was an INTJ and not an INTP
Leo A. Not ENTP?
I go back and forth between infj and isfj. This video makes me feel infj.
Are we attracted to our demon in others? In a kind of 'complete me' way?
I think so, Im an infp (demon te) and I love how my Intj friend uses their auxiliary te so effortlessly
No body believes me when I say having to try to live is the worst part of living. Now I could tell them “see, some RUclips channel said I’m loony, so check mate!”
Thank you guys for the dope content
Peace ShanonDave...
Wait.
I think I misunderstood something from a previous Demon Function video then..
Which, you may have clarified here.
So, are you saying they/we *avoid* &/or *ignore* our Demon Function feedback?
Or, that, we get caught slipping *because* of *using* our Demon Function as though it's a Savior Function??
For example:
I have an INFJ friend.
He LOVE'S doing Athletics (he clearly uses Se).
He was also known to go to Raves back ITD & all that entails..
Until, he'd get burnt out &/or injured..
Because..
He'd get *SO* caught up dancing, socializing, or playing Football.. he wouldn't do basic things like stretching before & after Football practice & conscious hydration at said Raves (or just when he'd contra band binge..yikes)..
It was as though he was *distracted* by his Se..
And, he *LOVED* it...
Too much.
It *ALWAYS* caught up to him.
Then, after crashing out & getting all depressed (because he couldn't Se & feel "worthy"), he'd turn all "healer" guy & have some Ni insight that it (his injuries.. Or, whatever) was all connected..
He'd be all "enlightened" & "healed.."
Then, a "new man..."
He'd do it all again..
Honestly, it was pretty frustrating & sad to watch..
Anyhow..
Is that how the "Demon 'Tidal Wave'" works?
Or, is that off?
Elucidate please?
Thanks 😎
WhoWillYouCallOnThen?
In that regard me and your friend seem to be pretty similar. Yet, i dont think he is an INTJ, because in general engaging in your 4th function doesnt feel good even if everything goes according to plan. I suspect, that your friend has demon Se in 2nd or 3rd slot.
I am an ENTJ with Te-Ni Savior and i notice, when i engage in Fi, it feels like hell. With Se on the other hand its more of a controlled outlet, that i enjoy from time to time, but after a while it feels like its going nowhere and i switch back to Ni.
The reason, why he probably forgets hydrating and practicing, is that he doesnt organize things based on sensory and on top of that he doesnt use Se that often, which maybe is a result of him blocking it with Ni.
Regarding my theory on the mistype, you should want to look into more precise, if you have the 4 functions Te-Fi-Ne-Si in your stack. Otherwise the chance of my theory being correct is pretty low.
Hope i could help.
Nah, thats why money is important, you pay others to do the boring stuff and I get to do the fun stuff haha
INFP:
I got ear buds that 4 months later, I have a 12 month warranty and 2 months left to file a claim...
Yeah, that's 6 months w/o ear buds b/c I don't want to look up all the things and jump through all the hoops to get them replaced. FML
Yay the quality going up
Also Dave, could you please make a detailed explanation of the ENTJ favoring Te-Se , INFP favoring Fi-Si deal, whatever you call that whole situation?
Black Pepper that would be awesome
Preach
Freaking 3 yrs ago?? I thought it was 3 DAYS ago
me every time I play games:
"Oh my gosh! I need to upgrade the characters, the skills, the ultimate, and I need to find good artifact?! And I need to have good weapon and upgrade it? And I need to find all those material sources? How about explore new map? new mission? Okay, I need to calm down. One by one. Set the priority. You can do this! Just do it slowly and get all done."
I love watches, but the chore of replacing the battery every year/2years actually is so tedious I refuse to buy any watches. I can only be tempted by a watch that I can charge(like those smartwatches), or one of those manual watches. Se demon lol.
Joey That's why I have a Citizen Eco-Drive watch. Solar powered battery, so you never have to change it.
I have a fitbit and the chore of charging it once a week is so annoying to me. I will go days wearing a dead fitbit because of that.
pamelam4 I go a couple days without wearing it because the charging. But then I get annoyed because I got used to checking the time amongst other things. And I dislike being without it.
Se demon here. Citizen eco drive for the win
ENFP with demon Si. I have been wearing a broken watch every single day for a year now because I can’t be bothered to change the battery. Oh well. I think it’s enough of an accomplishment that I put on the watch every day, so there 😂
Hold up, am I actually an ENTP and not an ENFP? I have Se and Si demon sensing!
I always use logic first and think about everything I approach. I use it to rationalize my emotions and make decisions.
I thought this 'demon sensing' was *me feeding too much into my Fi* because I have perfectionist anxiety/ADHD and tend to be avoidant when I get overwhelmed. I thought because I give into this avoidant behavior that it meant I was Fi dominant. An ENFP with a well-developed Ti and Te. I need to keep studying the functions to eventually reach an answer!
Omg my life is all about breaking stuff. Half the time it’s because my life is a mess and I step on shit or somethings balanced on top of something else in a pile and falls over, and cause I’m clumsy. I don’t maintain shit.
I was recently told I have Demon Se, because I am always prepared to react to chaos when out in public. I believe this may be true but I want a better understanding Of what that means. This video Is detailed about what Demon Se is but I am still confused as to what that means and how it relates to me.
I'm studying architecture right now (ENTP), the courses are quite boring in comparison to what I had in highschool (!) but I go through hell just to organise my sleep/work schedule and most importantly having clean, complete, adhering to the rules physical models. Also, I realised that I seriously need to work on my personal style and find the most effective way to clean my goddamn flat. It takes me so much energy to do all this and stay focused and present, however I have to say that my anxiety has reduced and my mental health got better.
The control part is definitely me. I hate having to do things in a certain way if it doesn’t make sense to me.
very short, but greatly on point
I'm loving this channel
as an entj with an se demon i constantly have to remind myself to focus and that this is real and needs careful execution and persistent effort because other wise i just get done and then have a good plan fall flat (that couldve worked) because of this airheaded ni “tunnel vision”
Yes good Content. Now I understand my bored and burned out body...because of boring paper works...it was reducing my energies so much and all the loud environment also drained me for years, turning toxic into magic.
I think a lot of this has to do with the P vs J dynamic.
I am very N dominant, but because I have a strong P, I will respect sensory information and not jump to conclusions too quickly. I will theorize and keep consuming sensory information to gradually update and refine my theories.
I can see an NJ getting two pieces of sensory information and instantly deciding that they understand the entire system.
Am I understanding this right?
Depends on what you mean by P and J.
Intj and enfp couple cleaning the house:
INTJ: OK, I can't keep ignoring this, this mess is terrible and its just going to get more overwhelming. Let's clean up
ENFP: it's not that bad. But if it makes you feel better we can tidy up a little. Just don't make it too sterile because that would stifle my creativity
INTJ: OK, let's start by throwing away the trash
ENFP: Ok--hey what are you doing, the Christmas decorations are not trash!
INTJ: They're just another hassle, we need to simplify everything so I can relax and get back in my head. I'm not going to be pulling tinsel out of the vacuum cleaner. Now hand me that orphan shoe, the one with the missing sole
ENFP: BUT I MIGHT NEED IT FOR SOMETHING!!
ENFP's = slu'ts
Lmao, I literally bought a drone and was pissed when I figured out I needed to buy propellers and all this other extra batteries and bullshit...INTJ here self and objectively typed Ni Fi
Great video as always! Cant wait for a video on demon intuition
Why are they calling the inferior a demon?
This is why I gave up my dreams in giving my body to the country by joining the army.
Nooooooo
My cheap chinese 500 part trashcan cabinet thing will remain half put together in my kitchen for all eternity. Eff sensory, all the remaining parts spralled across the kitchen makes nice decor. Adds some charm.
As an INFJ I absolutely DESPISE sensing. it made school v difficult for me. literally mad just thinking about it hahahahgjsagdhadj
Wait I thought the demon was the 8th function in your stack, like the 'worst' one? Isn't the 4th one usually called inferior?
Anyway, despite my confusion I find this very accurate! Especially the drone part.
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@@ConvenientlyShapedUsername uP as in uPVote
@@ADeeSHUPA oh ok, thank
“You know we got all this tech, drones....”
Me an ENFP: WHAT is he getting at? What is this? What does this have to do with anything?
1:40 commence my pikachu face. Don’t be calling me out like that.
Good God, that Se demon Ni savior explains my undying pessimism and fatigue
I was just taking driving classes and lessons until we got to the point of the discussion on maintaining a car.
I already thought up multiple inconvenient scenarios of my car breaking down, and this video just made me physically recoil.
When cops use intuition gnarly shit goes down
As a INTP, its just so frustrating when you get the picture but you cannot apply it real because you dont dive deep into the details to make it practical.
it's way less depressing to me to find out that this is a part of my god damn type !
like.
instead of getting hit with that sensory reality - most recently maintenence of my bike, having to order yet anohter part.... instead of it being depressing,,,, now i just know it's wired within my type.
very good. thank u :)))
How can we increase or Si? demon sensing.. daily? cleaning? organizing i.e. computer desktop is a mess.. files everwhere, no order (ENTP) THANKS
I don’t understand why everybody thinks it’s so cool to be an Intuitive on the internet like what? S as a demon ruins my life and now I gotta grow up and become a responsible adult too I’m so fucked!😩🔫
Enfp. Si. Schedules... billing cycles... I’ve had one successful tax return. I just could get to the rest, I gave away a lot of money I really need right now.
An excellent summary of the type of frustrating misunderstandings my brother (Si dom) and I (Ne dom) had growing up.
My Ni-Ti friend says that if you made the example something not tangible it would be closer to his experience lol cuz apparently screw the toy, just make your own fantasy toy in your head so you can skip all the Se BS lol
« Put in the sensory work! » NO NEVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
- INFP
My two jobs are in two sensory dominant roles. 🤦🏻♂️
2:31 INTJ displays two times with different combinations?
The best part is doing more Si means you get yo do more Ne with the sensory you do pick up.
lol I feel so called out by this video...
I just want to clean the store, I hate dealing with customers because it's just another thing keeping me from what I want to do. Sounds fairly Se demon in my opinion.
Cops have to use intuition. How else to know who to question?
What. Are. The. Facts. Pleasejustputthatdownandgoaway -istj 🤣
So in other words to communicate credibility is important to be effective credibility is important. Part of having credibility is you must have facts straight.
- ENFP -
P. s. This is why I have a lot of estp friends they're fun but they can also keep me grounded in reality
Awesome video! This is so true lol.
Yup. -infj
I wish more ENTPs would care enough to watch this video.
I feel kinda attacked.
Hm after looking this video I think that intuition could be one of my savior functions.
I'm rather a clumsy person, forget things and hate paperwork and so things. But I don't think that someone likes paperwork. I can see the details and focus on them when it is an project what's important for me but can became overwhelmed by them but I think intuition fits me more. I'm perfectionist.
I'm a dreamer, bored by the normal life. I don't whish dust from shelves or frequently clean the windows because it is an waste of time. I have different worldviews, views and thoughts to the world and to humans compared to other people, really idealistic and ethical.
I would be happy to exchange me with other intuitives :)
2:19 has two INTJ’s
I can’t wait for intuition demon video I am an isfj :)
Uh oh, I'm likely demon Se
probably an entp here, i just wanted to say that i hate everything and everything is just way tooooooooo fucking boring and i hate it.
Great video, you have pleased me! ;)
This guy knows his shit
ENTP one of the messy types easily distracted by ideas then forgot the main topic...
When it comes to real physical and technical thing they do stupid things... like in cooking household chores and etc..
Thanks for this 👍😊
Yeah I’m pretty sure I have demon Se
I laughed so hard at this 😂 - INTJ
Well then I laughed so hard at your social skills lol
Actually, INxJs have Si demon while ENxPs have Se demon so you’re video is misleading
So? its still sensing function, and he gave some differences
Their terms for 'demon' mean different things compared to the MBTI definitions; they call 'tertiary and inferior' functions 'demon' functions in OPS; same exact things, just different names
Wow, so it's because of my inferior se that I eat so little and don't want to be a mom.
Two funny, and true.
Now I want skittles 😋
this video is evolutionary. i know what's going on....not. i'm ENTp w/ demon sensing.