Thank you! So articulate and gracious in your critique (if you can even call it that?!) of CM especially in our context today. Have loved all I’ve heard about this curriculum so far (shout out to the Commonplace!), but I’m not int he formal years yet. I’m trying to wait until 6, maybe 7 years old for my first. Would Amanda have any advice for moms of littles on establishing a good base in years 0-5 to 6ish to be prepared for this beautiful trajectory?
For the little years, I’d begin reading the good books from the list in TCT which are labeled as “early years”. That’s why I love this curriculum; it truly is for the whole family! Beautifully illustrated fairy tales, classic picture books, nature lore, etc. Thank you so much for the encouragement and kind words!
I would love it if you did a video on what the classical Education is, when i look it up I mostly find classical conversations and that is very different then CM. Could you do a video on some definitions and how your thoughts have changed and developed and why? Also thank you for coming back to youtube, always enjoy your content.
Thank you so much for your encouragement 🥲 It means more than you know. That is a great idea for a video! I will definitely add that to the list, but will discuss it in my interview with Amanda as well. I’d also recommend watching her recent video too. Thanks for being here! ruclips.net/video/LKRZjkH-EQE/видео.htmlsi=1J1ENSyJkQwEPIPN
@@RevivalAcres Thank you for this link, I'm excited to listen to it. Yeah, I've always loved your content because I feel like I decide to use something or become interested in something, and then you seem to be one step ahead to guide me along the way. I use Mcguffey's and First Year in Number and have been interested in a Gentle Feast and Verily Homeschool. Also, you asked for questions about the Children's Tradition, I would be curious what the difference between what a day looks like with Children's tradition and CM and thoughts on a Well Educated Heart
I love that! Happy to help ☺️ The Children’s Tradition is very easily CM except that it is more cohesive and less segmented because you’re reading for knowledge rather than analysis (that comes later). As far as a Well Educated Heart I view it more as unit studies which are definitely not CM because they limit the feast set before the child.
No, but there are ideas. If you join The Toolshed you will get access to other resources that TCT users have made with more suggestions! I’m about to share there my personal handicraft forecast for this year See my last community post for info. Thanks for being here!
Because this is the Beta version she is still building out that piece. I know it will include things like folk dancing and Swedish drill recommendations.
@@mikeandambermotsch9122 because you only have two school-aged kiddos I would pick Year 1 and then choose books from Y2-3 if you have already read them. Your five and four year old can always sit in and listen along. I know Amanda recommends separation by Forms. Forms I (grades 1-3) and Form II (grades 4-6). Hope that helps but I can also mention this in the interview! Thanks for being here 🥰
@mikeandambermotsch9122 you’re welcome! I usually print and bind myself, but I will say she has linked the table of contents to the corresponding page numbers which makes it super easy for using digitally!
What would you use for grades 8-12? My 12-year-old just went and had a birthday (ugh 😉 ) so I now have an 8th grader. I did purchase The Children's Tradition (using Autumn Kern's discount code), however, if it is based on the 1000 Good Books list that are meant to be read before graduation from High School, then is Amanda attempting to fit them all in by grade 6-7? Just wondering if you know how that works. Thank you !
Hi! This Substack article would probably be your best bet to understand what she has in mind for upper years. Hope that helps! open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-to-implement-the-philosophy-of?r=2qntaj&
Thank you! That sounds interesting - what is your option about Ambleside - do you feel the same since it's CM? I like their booklists - can I plug them into the Children's Tradition ?
I was all set to do Ambleside until I found this and I’m so glad I switched. Once I started looking at AO books I realized so many of them are asking the children to analyze ideas about things they have yet to learn/love. They also ask them to assimilate culture ideas while making connections for them. I’m thinking specifically the Foster books for an example. TCT gives the mother a philosophy that she can then expound upon into making book choices and setting the atmosphere for her children. It’s also gentle but very robust while keeping the family together as much as possible or desired. I will be keeping the AO free read books as supplement because they tend to be more classical in nature, aligning with TCT. The more I study CM through the lens of the classical tradition I see TCT fitting her philosophy better. I hope that helps in some way!
@@RevivalAcresyes! That does help - I don’t like AO so much for higher grades - but love Our Island Story 😅😂 for whatever reason … so I was only going mesh Y1-Y3 but I listened to your interview and it makes more sense and would be much more enjoyable not having specific history spines - I always felt that history really drives every curriculum which it really shouldn’t since young kids really don’t have any idea about time … thanks for your reply!
@boomdiddyah everything you need to plan your child’s education years 1-6! This video has a walk through ruclips.net/video/-kD8_RpnC7s/видео.htmlsi=Wyu5X2UzHTm5PsjD
@@annahayesarnold I will definitely ask her to expound on this, but I do know she would recommend by form just like CMEC. Year 1-3 cycling and Years 4-6 cycling and “riches” together.
Hi! Here is my review of the CMEC which I have used for two years. I have also used A Gentle Feast and some Simply Charlotte Mason. The CMEC Review | Why we loved it, but why we’re NOT using it again ruclips.net/video/x4PSoI_fIMw/видео.html
Does she ONLY use John Senior's books or add extra? I was wondering if these books are easily accessible? How does she recommend we get a hold of the books she recommends. I'm afraid of spending the money on the curriculum only to find that I can't get the books. Hoping most of the are in the public domain. Thanks.
She has added a few based off her own research. A lot can be found online with a few that cannot. The beauty of using old books! Thanks for being here!
I understand what you mean regarding Charlotte Mason and the basis being God, but can you explain how this curriculum is more classical than CM? I feel like it’s very CM so the comparisons I’m seeing online are confusing me!
Did you watch my interview with Amanda? That could definitely help! Mainly, we often try to divorce CM from the classical tradition but she was actually a part of it! She was influenced by the enlightenment though, so some of her recommendations aren’t always my favorite for younger kids. Her over arching ideas are spot on, especially narration and that living ideas shape and inspire. But she pulled kiddos out of the poetic mode too soon. She requires analysis through logic and rhetoric at a much younger age than what would have been in the classical tradition. She also purposefully divided subjects which I think was the age of reason seeping in along with deep rooted enlightenment (post-medieval) principles whereas the classical tradition would have grouped this much broader. For instance, one classic book could serve for all modern “subjects” (history, geography, LA, drawing, etc.). I’d recommend joining The Toolshed for a month to do a deep dive. This will also give you the ability to ask TCT members questions as well as Amanda and myself.
@@RevivalAcres thank you for this!! So helpful. I am so early on in my journey that I haven’t yet reached that point. When does Charlotte Mason go into logic and analytical thinking (which ages)? Also what is the tool shed?? I would love to join and geek out on this topic.
Can you give some examples of her recommendations for younger kids that you don’t love and what the classical tradition would offer and suggest instead? And how they support poetic knowledge? Trying to make sense of this concept 🤪
@luccalele9740 you’re welcome! The Toolshed is an off social media platform that’s for like-minded families learning about and/or using The Children’s Tradition. the-toolshed.circle.so/c/start-here/
I would say yes, but with much more philosophy added in to help the mother have a ‘thinking-love’. It is also more attainable in my opinion, giving our children room to be in the poetic mode (we’ll discuss this in the interview). I’d also recommend checking out her recent sub stack comparing TCT with AO. open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-the-childrens-tradition-differs?r=2qntaj&
Essentially this is a manual right? Or are there poems and folk song lists that she gives you as well? How many hours do you typically spend doing school in this set up? How many "readings" are there per day or does it vary? Thank you for sharing this video! I am very intrigued!
It has lists for folk songs, composers, artists, poems, etc for each year. I would say 2 1/2 - 3 hours in the morning and then any additional read aloud times you want to add in later in the day. Thanks for being here!
We love Ambleside! Im curious how thisbis different. Karen glass wrote a book called consider this showing how Charlotte Mason was classical. Autumn Kern the commonplace is a great resource as well!
I was going to use Ambleside until I found this and I think TCT is superior for grades 1-7. I will use their free read lists though! Amanda wrote a great Substack discussing the differences which might be of interest. I know Autumn is using TCT this year too. Thanks for being here! open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-the-childrens-tradition-differs?r=2qntaj&
This sounds very much the way orthodoxy works. Very prayer and Trinity focused! Love it 😍
I love it too!! Make sure to use my discount code REVIVALACRES for 10% off!
This is what draws me in!
Thank you! So articulate and gracious in your critique (if you can even call it that?!) of CM especially in our context today. Have loved all I’ve heard about this curriculum so far (shout out to the Commonplace!), but I’m not int he formal years yet. I’m trying to wait until 6, maybe 7 years old for my first. Would Amanda have any advice for moms of littles on establishing a good base in years 0-5 to 6ish to be prepared for this beautiful trajectory?
For the little years, I’d begin reading the good books from the list in TCT which are labeled as “early years”. That’s why I love this curriculum; it truly is for the whole family! Beautifully illustrated fairy tales, classic picture books, nature lore, etc.
Thank you so much for the encouragement and kind words!
I would love it if you did a video on what the classical Education is, when i look it up I mostly find classical conversations and that is very different then CM. Could you do a video on some definitions and how your thoughts have changed and developed and why? Also thank you for coming back to youtube, always enjoy your content.
Thank you so much for your encouragement 🥲 It means more than you know.
That is a great idea for a video! I will definitely add that to the list, but will discuss it in my interview with Amanda as well. I’d also recommend watching her recent video too. Thanks for being here!
ruclips.net/video/LKRZjkH-EQE/видео.htmlsi=1J1ENSyJkQwEPIPN
@@RevivalAcres Thank you for this link, I'm excited to listen to it. Yeah, I've always loved your content because I feel like I decide to use something or become interested in something, and then you seem to be one step ahead to guide me along the way. I use Mcguffey's and First Year in Number and have been interested in a Gentle Feast and Verily Homeschool. Also, you asked for questions about the Children's Tradition, I would be curious what the difference between what a day looks like with Children's tradition and CM and thoughts on a Well Educated Heart
I love that! Happy to help ☺️ The Children’s Tradition is very easily CM except that it is more cohesive and less segmented because you’re reading for knowledge rather than analysis (that comes later). As far as a Well Educated Heart I view it more as unit studies which are definitely not CM because they limit the feast set before the child.
Thanks for sharing! ❤
Thanks for watching🥰
Love this!! Does it also include suggested artists and composers for each year?
Yes and folk songs 😊
How did you find this curriculum? I can't find any mention of it on fb and I don't see any sampled on the website.
A friend! I’d recommend going to her instagram to see a video walk through. We have loved it!
Does this include handicrafts? Meaning how to do them. Thank you for this great video!
No, but there are ideas. If you join The Toolshed you will get access to other resources that TCT users have made with more suggestions! I’m about to share there my personal handicraft forecast for this year See my last community post for info. Thanks for being here!
What exactly is taught under gymnastics in TCT?
Because this is the Beta version she is still building out that piece. I know it will include things like folk dancing and Swedish drill recommendations.
If I have a 8,7,5, and 4 year old-and want to do family style-whats your suggestion on which year I should choose?
@@mikeandambermotsch9122 because you only have two school-aged kiddos I would pick Year 1 and then choose books from Y2-3 if you have already read them. Your five and four year old can always sit in and listen along. I know Amanda recommends separation by Forms. Forms I (grades 1-3) and Form II (grades 4-6). Hope that helps but I can also mention this in the interview! Thanks for being here 🥰
@@RevivalAcres thank you for your quick response, I look forward to that q&a! Another question, where did you get yours printed and bound?
@mikeandambermotsch9122 you’re welcome! I usually print and bind myself, but I will say she has linked the table of contents to the corresponding page numbers which makes it super easy for using digitally!
What would you use for grades 8-12? My 12-year-old just went and had a birthday (ugh 😉 ) so I now have an 8th grader. I did purchase The Children's Tradition (using Autumn Kern's discount code), however, if it is based on the 1000 Good Books list that are meant to be read before graduation from High School, then is Amanda attempting to fit them all in by grade 6-7? Just wondering if you know how that works. Thank you !
Hi! This Substack article would probably be your best bet to understand what she has in mind for upper years. Hope that helps! open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-to-implement-the-philosophy-of?r=2qntaj&
Thank you! That sounds interesting - what is your option about Ambleside - do you feel the same since it's CM? I like their booklists - can I plug them into the Children's Tradition ?
I was all set to do Ambleside until I found this and I’m so glad I switched. Once I started looking at AO books I realized so many of them are asking the children to analyze ideas about things they have yet to learn/love. They also ask them to assimilate culture ideas while making connections for them. I’m thinking
specifically the Foster books for an example. TCT gives the mother a philosophy that she can then expound upon into making book choices and setting the atmosphere for her children. It’s also gentle but very robust while keeping the family together as much as possible or desired. I will be keeping the AO free read books as supplement because they tend to be more classical in nature, aligning with TCT. The more I study CM through the lens of the classical tradition I see TCT fitting her philosophy better. I hope that helps in some way!
@@RevivalAcresyes! That does help - I don’t like AO so much for higher grades - but love Our Island Story 😅😂 for whatever reason … so I was only going mesh Y1-Y3 but I listened to your interview and it makes more sense and would be much more enjoyable not having specific history spines - I always felt that history really drives every curriculum which it really shouldn’t since young kids really don’t have any idea about time … thanks for your reply!
@TruthSeeker2996 I’m so glad it was of help to you!
What does this curriculum include? The website has very little info
@boomdiddyah everything you need to plan your child’s education years 1-6! This video has a walk through
ruclips.net/video/-kD8_RpnC7s/видео.htmlsi=Wyu5X2UzHTm5PsjD
Will you continue to use Mcguffey Readers alongside this curriculum?
Yes, of course!
What would the plan be moving forward after using this curriculum for the first 6 years?
@@adrianqueen8167 I’ll definitely ask this in the interview! Be on the lookout for it next week. Thanks for being here!
Any idea what advice she gives on combining kids? That's a big feature of the CMEC for me.
@@annahayesarnold I will definitely ask her to expound on this, but I do know she would recommend by form just like CMEC. Year 1-3 cycling and Years 4-6 cycling and “riches” together.
What CM curriculum have you tried before switching yo this?
Hi! Here is my review of the CMEC which I have used for two years. I have also used A Gentle Feast and some Simply Charlotte Mason.
The CMEC Review | Why we loved it, but why we’re NOT using it again
ruclips.net/video/x4PSoI_fIMw/видео.html
Does she ONLY use John Senior's books or add extra? I was wondering if these books are easily accessible? How does she recommend we get a hold of the books she recommends. I'm afraid of spending the money on the curriculum only to find that I can't get the books. Hoping most of the are in the public domain. Thanks.
She has added a few based off her own research. A lot can be found online with a few that cannot. The beauty of using old books! Thanks for being here!
I understand what you mean regarding Charlotte Mason and the basis being God, but can you explain how this curriculum is more classical than CM? I feel like it’s very CM so the comparisons I’m seeing online are confusing me!
Did you watch my interview with Amanda? That could definitely help! Mainly, we often try to divorce CM from the classical tradition but she was actually a part of it! She was influenced by the enlightenment though, so some of her recommendations aren’t always my favorite for younger kids. Her over arching ideas are spot on, especially narration and that living ideas shape and inspire. But she pulled kiddos out of the poetic mode too soon. She requires analysis through logic and rhetoric at a much younger age than what would have been in the classical tradition. She also purposefully divided subjects which I think was the age of reason seeping in along with deep rooted enlightenment (post-medieval) principles whereas the classical tradition would have grouped this much broader. For instance, one classic book could serve for all modern “subjects” (history, geography, LA, drawing, etc.).
I’d recommend joining The Toolshed for a month to do a deep dive. This will also give you the ability to ask TCT members questions as well as Amanda and myself.
@@RevivalAcres thank you for this!! So helpful. I am so early on in my journey that I haven’t yet reached that point. When does Charlotte Mason go into logic and analytical thinking (which ages)? Also what is the tool shed?? I would love to join and geek out on this topic.
Can you give some examples of her recommendations for younger kids that you don’t love and what the classical tradition would offer and suggest instead? And how they support poetic knowledge? Trying to make sense of this concept 🤪
@luccalele9740 you’re welcome! The Toolshed is an off social media platform that’s for like-minded families learning about and/or using The Children’s Tradition. the-toolshed.circle.so/c/start-here/
This curriculum is mainly a booklist with schedule correct? Similar to Ambleside?
I would say yes, but with much more philosophy added in to help the mother have a ‘thinking-love’. It is also more attainable in my opinion, giving our children room to be in the poetic mode (we’ll discuss this in the interview). I’d also recommend checking out her recent sub stack comparing TCT with AO. open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-the-childrens-tradition-differs?r=2qntaj&
Essentially this is a manual right? Or are there poems and folk song lists that she gives you as well?
How many hours do you typically spend doing school in this set up? How many "readings" are there per day or does it vary?
Thank you for sharing this video! I am very intrigued!
It has lists for folk songs, composers, artists, poems, etc for each year. I would say 2 1/2 - 3 hours in the morning and then any additional read aloud times you want to add in later in the day. Thanks for being here!
We love Ambleside! Im curious how thisbis different. Karen glass wrote a book called consider this showing how Charlotte Mason was classical. Autumn Kern the commonplace is a great resource as well!
I was going to use Ambleside until I found this and I think TCT is superior for grades 1-7. I will use their free read lists though! Amanda wrote a great Substack discussing the differences which might be of interest. I know Autumn is using TCT this year too. Thanks for being here!
open.substack.com/pub/thewonderyears/p/how-the-childrens-tradition-differs?r=2qntaj&