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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2022
  • A profile of Vicente Guerrero, the Mexican general of mixed African descent who abolished slavery after helping the country achieve independence
    Show notes and sources are available at noirehistoir.com/blog/vicente-....

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  • @ManuelSegura-hr5cm
    @ManuelSegura-hr5cm Год назад +70

    Several African slaves escaping from the South of the United States arrived in Mexico. The United States government asked that the fugitive slaves be returned to them, and Mexico responded that "their request must be a mistake, because there are no slaves in Mexico." And these African slaves were given land to live on.

    • @sonicboom86
      @sonicboom86 Год назад +13

      As soon as they Stepped in Mexican soil They were free slaves by law

    • @ManuelSegura-hr5cm
      @ManuelSegura-hr5cm Год назад +5

      @@sonicboom86 yes.

    • @user-tm7qr2ug6k
      @user-tm7qr2ug6k 8 месяцев назад +5

      El padre y fundador de la patria vicente guerrero era afromexicano el.verdadero héroe de la independencia mexicana

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад

      Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade

    • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
      @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 Месяц назад +2

      You should read the book, South to Freedom. The discusses the history of African American slaves fleeing bondage in the southern United States to freedom in Mexico.

  • @ayzc4164
    @ayzc4164 8 месяцев назад +14

    As a Mexican I am proud on how Mexico acted. They did not allow slavery and also were the first to allow black baseball players without racism. I wish nowadays Hispanics/Mexicans/Latinos and blacks would stick more together breaks my heart how some African Americans pick and bully our street vendors and don’t stick up for us. Divide continues. We need to stick together like we have in the past, but history is forgotten.

    • @pcgamingeconomico3057
      @pcgamingeconomico3057 4 месяца назад

      the problem is that USA black people have a slave-victim card that they sell to the white people to shame them and they tried that on us mexican-american and of course it failed because we had nothing to do with that.
      so the slave complex does not work on us, so they dont like us.
      a lot of black people on USA are freeloaders living on the government Tit, this was the government plan all along since the 40's.

    • @JamesBrooks-hj3dz
      @JamesBrooks-hj3dz 4 месяца назад

      You have Mexican gang bangers who racially bang on any black gang member they see a lot of times in Cali,you also have the Mexican Mafia ECT....all anti blk but want to be all up in hip hop culture.lol

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +2

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 we were already here

    • @JamesBrooks-hj3dz
      @JamesBrooks-hj3dz 2 месяца назад

      What about the racist Hispanics that attack us?

    • @soldieron9965
      @soldieron9965 2 месяца назад

      We cant be united, when blacks are at war with everyone and themselves. Just look at your local nightly news, you see my point. No one in there right would live around them.

  • @guillermodiaz3848
    @guillermodiaz3848 2 года назад +36

    Mexico is rich in history and culture

    • @NoireHistory
      @NoireHistory  2 года назад +6

      I agree.

    • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
      @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 3 месяца назад +2

      Indeed

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@NoireHistoryOur culture was rich before the land was.called Mexico. Emblem of the Americas 1798

    • @timasuna1756
      @timasuna1756 Месяц назад

      ​@@gew2027Drawn by an artist that never set foot in the Americas or saw a native. So he drew Africans, people they had already made contact with

  • @DeepVerma728
    @DeepVerma728 Год назад +20

    Mexican policy on slavery is total integration. You can marry, own land, get a job etc. This was done right away in Mexico when slavery ended. Slaves were totally absorbed into Mexican society. Integration in the U.S didn't begin until maybe the 1950's 60's.

    • @NoireHistory
      @NoireHistory  Год назад +7

      Thanks for the insights. I think that Black people in America would be living under far different circumstances if there was a greater and cohesive effort to have the formerly enslaved become fully fledged members of society.

    • @blackmenachievellc3770
      @blackmenachievellc3770 Год назад +2

      Saying totally absorbed is not true. Not with the amount of anti blackness that occurred. There’s serious nuance missing here

    • @wackytoons88
      @wackytoons88 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@NoireHistorybecause of the brain wash school system and etc teaching forbidden history that was forbidden by the whites

    • @DeepVerma728
      @DeepVerma728 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@blackmenachievellc3770 Mexican policy is integration. Sure there are some anti black sentiments. The policy does not change.

    • @Jerryford2019
      @Jerryford2019 3 месяца назад

      ​@@blackmenachievellc3770 I'm sorry but your feeling can't go against Mexican Law integration to society it's the law. In Mexico We don't have racism as it is, we have something called CLASSICISM, people that think because they have money they're better than others. We integrate all this immigrant from Haiti it's all over you tube. The Venezuela's??? Well that's another story.

  • @icecol22
    @icecol22 3 месяца назад +4

    Great video and I thoroughly enjoyed it!! Thank you!! Very empowering for me as a black man.💛💛

  • @user-id5jk3oz3i
    @user-id5jk3oz3i Год назад +18

    we mexican people do not know anything about african americans in mexico, it is because the education system never mentions race, or nationality, we are taught that we are all mexicans, vicente guerrero is a hero of the independance of mexico. we all know his name, but not his afro ancentry.

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +2

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 the people before there was a Mexico. Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade

    • @JamesBrooks-hj3dz
      @JamesBrooks-hj3dz 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@gew2027so are you saying the current Mexicans we know of today came from Asia as slaves?

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +1

      @@JamesBrooks-hj3dz It's not me.look up Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад

      @@JamesBrooks-hj3dz look up Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives and u should understand

    • @timasuna1756
      @timasuna1756 Месяц назад

      ​@@gew2027That picture is incorrect, they referenced Africans since they never saw a Native. And mexicos asian population is small, as dna admix data shows.

  • @katemkeng138
    @katemkeng138 Год назад +7

    Thank you for sharing our history, we need to know this!!

    • @Itzpapalotl.
      @Itzpapalotl. 6 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly it’s a shame that Mexican Americans could never learn about our history in the US unless it’s a University course.

  • @frankpope5097
    @frankpope5097 2 года назад +11

    Very good video my entire family and I are from xonacatla, guerrero, mexico

    • @teresaguerrasalazar
      @teresaguerrasalazar 11 месяцев назад

      Gente de Guerrero nos robaron las tierras mas fertiles de Mexico.Y bien que se comen nuestra comida mexicana

  • @moreno-lh7ys
    @moreno-lh7ys Год назад +22

    WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENTE VICENTE GUERRERO GREAT LEADER GREAT MAN OVER ALL AMAZING HUMAN BEING

  • @delukard07
    @delukard07 2 года назад +15

    LA PATRIA ES PRIMERO!
    a huevo.
    Vicente Guerrero es un HEROE nacional.

  • @BHTSGOHARD
    @BHTSGOHARD Год назад +57

    Thanks for speaking on this history. Many Mexicans can be ignorant and not know of their African history but a lot of us are proud of it 🇲🇽🇲🇽✌️✌️👍🏽👍🏽

    • @anthonypuccetti8779
      @anthonypuccetti8779 Год назад +7

      He wasn't black. No one in his time said he was.

    • @BHTSGOHARD
      @BHTSGOHARD Год назад +6

      @@anthonypuccetti8779 there was no word for “black” people at that time he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father so he was mixed like the first generation of Mexicans were. He did have an african parent tho which is important to know since Africans in that area were thought to only be brought to the Americas as slaves but that’s not true. Spanish brought african moors to new Spain and even thought the natives of Mexico were moors cause of their completion and similarities of culture. Read up

    • @anthonypuccetti8779
      @anthonypuccetti8779 Год назад +2

      @@BHTSGOHARD "there was no word for “black”"
      Negro.
      "he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father"
      His ethnic ancestry is unknown. Historians disagree about it.

    • @BHTSGOHARD
      @BHTSGOHARD Год назад

      @@anthonypuccetti8779 no shit that’s the word for the color black not African people in the 1400’s 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ they didn’t call Africans negroes they called them Africanos where they come from..

    • @jesusangelgonzalez4627
      @jesusangelgonzalez4627 11 месяцев назад

      Historia y Civismo,te enseñavan desce 3ro a 5to 6to Historia Iniversal.
      Los libros de texto eran grstuitos

  • @intruzione
    @intruzione 7 месяцев назад +2

    Some facts about Vicente Guerrero.... By the end of the 1700's 1800's, there were not that many slaves left in the kingdom because most slaves had already bought their freedom, and by that era, it wasn't much of a business to the Spanish crown to keep having slaves, that's why slaves escaped to New Spain specially to St Augustine in Spanish Florida and to the rest of the kingdom... In Mexico's presidential elections of 1828, Vicente Guerrero had lost the election to Manuel Gómez Pedraza, since he didn't like the results he provoked a revolt and took power by force... He did enacted to end whatever was left of slavery but it never took effect because of his election illegitimacy. Vicente Guerrero policies allowed for Texas to be populated by Americans, and made exception for Americans to keep holding on their slaves, reason why many Americans were fleeing to Texas and 7 years later caused the Texas Revolution in 1835 ... Let's not forget he was a Freemason (York Rite Lodge). He was deposed of the presidency by Anastacio Bustamante in 1829 and was sentenced to death in 1831, and all of his policies were nullified. Slavery was truly ended in November 9th of 1839 by the Supreme Conservative Power "en el territorio mexicano ninguno es esclavo, ni noble o plebeyo por su origen. Todos sus habitantes son libres e iguales ante la ley, sin otras distinciones, que las que ella establezca en consideración a la virtud, a la capacidad y al servicio público".

  • @angelvazquez8954
    @angelvazquez8954 Год назад +21

    A lot of black Americans don’t know this about Mexico

    • @Donovan351
      @Donovan351 Год назад

      Mhmm 2pac

    • @blackmenachievellc3770
      @blackmenachievellc3770 Год назад

      Bc when would we have been taught this? They don’t even teach black American history correctly

    • @wackytoons88
      @wackytoons88 11 месяцев назад

      Because some of them brainwash by the system

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +2

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're not black or Afican American. Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . We're the copper colored people of the Americas

    • @JamesBrooks-hj3dz
      @JamesBrooks-hj3dz 2 месяца назад

      ​@@gew2027Facts!My great hreat grandfather was from Texas in the mid 1800s.He was considered mexican and was chocolate brown and had been from texas and further south all his life.He also lived in Tishomingo Counrty(Indian Counrty)Alot of so called African Americans,Negroes,black ppl are INDIGENOUS to these lands.They tricked us by way of calling us African,Negroe and black,all misnomers!

  • @angelamerideth8780
    @angelamerideth8780 Месяц назад +3

    I was watching TikTok and I saw a wedding in Nigeria I was shocked about the culture similarities and now I’m here in shock. I’m older and my family doesn’t speak too much about Mexican history I also am half Scottish so I know more on that half I’m in shock that I never knew this! It’s not that we are ignorant it’s our schools never spoke about this! We don’t want to stay uneducated we just don’t know. Being Chicana is something I have to learn and evolve into thank you for this!

  • @blueking5016
    @blueking5016 Год назад +2

    Wow"🕵🏿‍♂️👍🏿💯

    • @Donovan351
      @Donovan351 Год назад +1

      😈💯🧑🏾👑🤴👑👑🤴☺️^

  • @canaaa_25
    @canaaa_25 2 месяца назад +1

    My friend’s descendant of him! It’s very interesting

  • @wackytoons88
    @wackytoons88 11 месяцев назад +3

    Its kinda sad how some black folks and every one in general dont believe or wanna believe this part of history but it really shows how duvided we really are as a human species and as society

    • @Itzpapalotl.
      @Itzpapalotl. 6 месяцев назад

      No one in the US is really taught Mexican history sadly. Especially for Mexicans living in the US, it’s our ancestors history.

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 Mexican s don't want to believe this part of hisy

  • @Jerryford2019
    @Jerryford2019 3 месяца назад +1

    The help from Mexican people that helped slaves to cross the southern border has been ignored, due to scuadrons of slave hunters crossing in to Mexico the scape route was less organized than the north but it was important.

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American. We are the real Americans

  • @jorgemanuel9545
    @jorgemanuel9545 11 месяцев назад +3

    The eliminitor of slaveri was MORELOS,.

    • @eddie-roo
      @eddie-roo 12 дней назад

      Puede que Morelos haya declarado el fin de la esclavitud, pero Guerrero lo ratificó y lo hizo ley. Ni Iturbide ni Guadalupe Victoria hicieron eso.

  • @FreddyGaldos
    @FreddyGaldos 2 года назад +6

    A huevo!

  • @miguelsanchez404
    @miguelsanchez404 3 месяца назад +2

    The funny thing is I bet none of you are from Guerrero the state where Vicente was born named after him or as Some of you might just know it by the city of Acapulco an old ship port not just a tourist attraction. The little African influence there can mostly be found along the coastal areas. There’s a Mexican stereotype “costiño” a indigenous afro mix person either way they are Mexican most importantly Guerrerense a unique identity. the state is made up mostly of indigenous dna to the point that other states made up of more Spanish dna look down on both the state of Guerrero and Oaxaca as inferior to them. Don’t be surprised Mexico is also very racist especially against indigenous people making us the butt of every joke. It’s funny to see other Mexicans fight so hard for one of our state hero’s but the hypocrisy doesn’t surprise me they want our culture but not us. If you guys are truly indigenous and mad do something about Austria having the Aztec crown in one of they’re museums that’s something to make your blood boil! In our state we also have the Olmec heads, that African Americans want to claim so bad for some reason…just because African influence showed up hundreds of years after the heads were made l in our lands, doesn’t make the Olmecs African the people in this area identity as indigenous Mexicans but overall Guerrerense 🐆

  • @1EQUALS-INFINITY
    @1EQUALS-INFINITY 10 месяцев назад +5

    Mexico had the first black President of the Americas and also the first full blooded Indian named Benito Juarez, whom Benito Mussolini was named after.

    • @Zapp760
      @Zapp760 8 месяцев назад +3

      He wasn't black 🤣 His father was black and Indigenous, the mother was FULL INDIGENOUS. Please enough with the erasure.

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +1

      Emblem of the Americas 1798 the Americans

    • @rosemontano8705
      @rosemontano8705 28 дней назад

      Mexicans are half breeds native american indian and spainards. All mexicans dna have native american blood in them. Average dna of mexican is half native american indian.

    • @eddie-roo
      @eddie-roo 12 дней назад

      @@Zapp760the fact he was mixed black and indigenous does not erase his blackness nor his indigeneity

    • @Zapp760
      @Zapp760 12 дней назад +1

      @@eddie-roo no, but it doesn't make him just african like most blacks want to make it out to be. see the hypocrisy? he didn't say black and indigenous president, he said first black president.
      why is a problem when I come to defend with proper evidence pointing that he is predominantly indigenous but no issue when he was considered just black. 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @magicalsausage3869
    @magicalsausage3869 7 месяцев назад +1

    1782-1831🕊️

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад +1

      Emblem of the Americas 1798

  • @rosemontano8705
    @rosemontano8705 9 месяцев назад +3

    Vicente was 3 fourths mexican, and a fourth black. You blacks need to stop calling him black when he was way more mexican then you think. He was a Mexican president stop grabbing at our people and trying to claim vicente as yours.

    • @user-yw7xo3rd4n
      @user-yw7xo3rd4n 3 месяца назад +2

      I don't think they're trying to claim him but acknowledge him and give credit where it's due

    • @user-ol8oz1ox9w
      @user-ol8oz1ox9w 2 месяца назад

      Do not be that stupid he was a proud black mexican. And mexican proud of him

    • @gew2027
      @gew2027 2 месяца назад

      Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American.Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives

    • @eddie-roo
      @eddie-roo 12 дней назад

      Guerrero was fully mexican, but he was mixed black and indigenous. Both his blackness and indigeneity affected and shaped him. He’s a part of mexican black and Mexican indigenous history.
      People like to erase both facets of his ancestry and instead only recognize Juarez as the only indigenous mexican president.

  • @jacobvillar1503
    @jacobvillar1503 Год назад +5

    Am I the only one that thinks this lady is so beautiful

  • @gabriellopez-mw8qc
    @gabriellopez-mw8qc 2 года назад +14

    This doesn’t qualify as a piece in black history month. It is a misrepresentation of Vicente Guerrero .While Mexico has African contribution. It is small. Most have a low percentage. Even amongst the group that has significant amount many relate to the Mexican culture formed predominantly by Spanish and Indian people. While some still relate to their African descent and heritage it is still a Mexican history and background. Not a “black” one.

    • @NoireHistory
      @NoireHistory  2 года назад +35

      These profiles are created year-round not just for Black History Month. You stated this is a misrepresentation of Vincente Guerrero but didn't explain how. Instead you went on to discuss Mexico in general. The profile is not about Mexico but rather one individual from Mexico. You then conflated race (Black/ African descent) with nationality (Mexican). They are two categories but an individual can be included in both.
      You seem to be implying that Mexicans regardless of admixture are not Black because of their Mexican culture. That's an agenda, not logic.

    • @gabriellopez-mw8qc
      @gabriellopez-mw8qc 2 года назад +9

      @@NoireHistory your perspective is skewed,based on an American concept of race. Black history month is a primarily US concept for Americans of black descent. Your conflating race with shared identity. That’s STEREOTYPING and very misleading. It’s an oversimplification of complex history. This undermines 500 years of significant history and separation. Which created a SPECIFIC identity that you can’t cherry pick from.Mexican is a nationality but it’s much more than that. It’s a mixed story that is shared by those people and cherished as an identity. You are ignoring that by combining groups of people who have a distant relation that’s not relevant in any way. That’s an exaggerated connection. Black Mexicans share more in common with non black Mexicans than non Mexican blacks. What’s not logical is that Your generalizing groups of people that really don’t have any connection. That’s an injustice to Mexicans and their history. People in America mainly have this view. Other countries have pride from what’s mostly in common between each other. They don’t obsess with categorizing each other based on some differences. That’s counterproductive.

    • @keithnelson7629
      @keithnelson7629 2 года назад +5

      Gasper yanga another black hero of Mexico has a statue of him in vercruz Mexico

    • @gabriellopez-mw8qc
      @gabriellopez-mw8qc 2 года назад +7

      @@keithnelson7629 you understand he doesn’t relate to you right? He’s not the black you relate to. Your people weren’t apart of Mexican history. He’s Mexican. Your not. You can’t cherry pick Mexican history and use it to represent you. That’s appropriation and disrespectful to a history and culture you don’t belong to. There are different kinds of black people and the differences makes y’all not relatable. Black Americans don’t understand this but study Africa ad you’ll see hundreds of different ethnicities who don’t see each other the same and they’re all “black”

    • @keithnelson7629
      @keithnelson7629 2 года назад

      @@gabriellopez-mw8qc well Vicente Guerrero seen us all the same that's why he told the African slaves from America if they escape they could come to Mexico long live Vicente Guerrero y'all killed him because he was black facts

  • @anthonypuccetti8779
    @anthonypuccetti8779 Год назад +7

    He wasn't black. Black historians claimed that he was to give black people something to be proud about like they did with claiming that the Egyptians and the tribes of the americas were black.

    • @adolforuiz6031
      @adolforuiz6031 Год назад

      You must live in a cave like the Flintstones in history lesson.he is of African connection just like Jose Maria Morelos ...yes there is historians but Mexican historians have proof and evidence of his African connection 🤨

    • @vikkigonzalez4773
      @vikkigonzalez4773 Год назад +1

      He was *mulato.*

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@adolforuiz6031he was mulatto like President Obama. Obama is NOT black he is MIXED race!

    • @maxferreti5923
      @maxferreti5923 11 месяцев назад

      If his father was of African decent he is even if he Dosent look it , people are what there fathers are

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 месяцев назад

      @maxferreti5923 So why do African Americans call themselves african when many of their fathers were European descent slave masters?

  • @steven21180
    @steven21180 13 дней назад +1

    My ancestors are from Guerrero I carry the blood of Guerrero fkn warrior 😤 💪

  • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
    @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 10 месяцев назад +2

    His father was a Mestizo and his mother was of African origin.

    • @Zapp760
      @Zapp760 8 месяцев назад +1

      No his father was black and indio and the mother was FULL INDIGENOUS, he's indigenous.

    • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
      @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 5 месяцев назад +1

      No he was not, Vicente Guerrero's ethnicity was African, Spanish European, and Native American.

  • @Puma0515
    @Puma0515 14 дней назад

    Yeah Vicente Guerrero, I don't think he was black. Lol. I was just reading that he was described as having bronze skin, bright and light colored eyes and an aquiline nose. That's native and European features. And you don't really see Black Mexicans and even the dark skin Mexicans have more native and European facial features. Ya spreading false information

  • @JoseSanchez-zq8kg
    @JoseSanchez-zq8kg 8 месяцев назад

    Their is one more that people don't imagine of him being half black and he is one of the revolution heroes, EMILIANO ZAPATA , his grand parents were black

  • @chenchamexica13
    @chenchamexica13 Год назад +6

    He was not black. He might have been of mixed blood. But not black. He was Mestizo. Funny how blacks want to attach themselves to our history.

    • @Donovan351
      @Donovan351 Год назад +1

      Your skin color has nothing to do or your hair color or the texture of your hair has nothing to do of your race I seen Mexicans with curly hair straight hair same with people from Africa that has straight hair and curly hair the hair has something to do with working in the fields or out in the sun a protected us from the heat the Africans that don’t have Afros they were out of the sun and hidden away so they was able to keep their straight hair I learned that in a video and it makes perfect sense being a certain race or whatever you’re trying to say has nothing to do with anything culture has nothing to do with anything all in all he was mixed and he had half 50% black any other was negative which is some form of black nobody trying to steal your culture wanna be anything

    • @Donovan351
      @Donovan351 Год назад +1

      I feel like you’re referring that to yourself someone said this and I totally agree a lot of Mexicans claim that their addiction is just so I can get free benefits indigenous typo in and then they claim they Hispanics in Spain is a part of Spanish Mexicans are something else you can’t be one of the other lol😩🤣🤣🤣 it’s sad how Black people hate each other even in other countries Dominicans they hate Black people a lot of them are racist and they feel they realize they’re black they even have the curly hair white people don’t like Black people but they don’t hate us like this but you would expect that because a lot of them are 100% white some have black ancestry but still we hate each other this much where we don’t want to be seen or even considered in the same contacts or the same facility

    • @Donovan351
      @Donovan351 Год назад +1

      And most likely you’re born in America so you’re not even Mexican you’re something else they don’t consider Mexicans that are born in America Mexican with a second population in Mexico consider themselves black why the last but not least population is full-blooded white Mexicans in the other is Asians that are full blooded or Asian and Arabic Everything other except black that’s a huge number seen not a lot of people live in Mexico because the population keeps declining dramatically because MAsk killings in Mexico is fleeing their country and other problems

    • @native00
      @native00 Год назад

      you’re only proving them FBAs right smh

    • @gilberttorres8
      @gilberttorres8 Год назад +1

      he was still part black.

  • @charlesleeray8512
    @charlesleeray8512 Год назад +2

    Nunca era negro..nada Mas porque los Españoles le dican el negro Guerrero por su tez Morena

    • @vikkigonzalez4773
      @vikkigonzalez4773 Год назад +3

      Si era mulato.

    • @maxferreti5923
      @maxferreti5923 11 месяцев назад

      Si su papá era Moreno en el sentido de Africa si es aunque no lo vea exactamente, la gente es lo q su padre es no la madre ; por ejemplo si su padre fuera Blanco de Europa y digamos q su madre fuera una africana morena con piel mas oscura en esa instancia aunque El Niño salga mas oscuro que el Vicente Guerrero que si existió no sería Moreno sería europeo hijo de Japheth.

    • @teresaguerrasalazar
      @teresaguerrasalazar 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@vikkigonzalez4773 No es cierto! los negros historiadores lo inventaron

  • @fireabyss5147
    @fireabyss5147 2 года назад +5

    First off His father was An indigenous and his mother was half black ..
    Second , it was Mexican Citizens (mestizos and indigenous )won the war independence ...blacks did not play a part in this war

    • @NoireHistory
      @NoireHistory  2 года назад +10

      Some sources detail his father as having been a Black Mexican or mixed Black Mexican and his mother as indigenous, while others explain it as the reverse. I went with the former because those sources cited their sources, which included the same breakdown. For individuals who lived in the distant past, the details of their lives with regard to date, place, and circumstances of birth are often not exact, conflict, or are estimated. Either way, the point was that Guerrero was of mixed heritage with one parent being of some type of African descent.
      If you refer to the title and the actual content of the video it doesn't state that Black people, in general, played a role in this war. The video and title focus specifically on Vincente Guerrero and HIS role in the war, how HE became president, and the impact of HIS policies on Mexican society and slavery.

    • @frankpope5097
      @frankpope5097 2 года назад +5

      The video is on Vicente guerrero. Chill out OP you're too stimulated for no reason.

    • @nataliemanzo34
      @nataliemanzo34 Год назад +4

      @@NoireHistory his dad was a mixed man and the mom was full indigenous. That would make him 75 percent native Mexican with 25 percent African . Us Mexican don’t even think our selves as Spaniards. Even doe the average Mexican has about 25 percent froM Spain. Mexicos afro community has been mixing with indigenous and Spanish dna for over a hundred years. My point is that Afro Mexicans have little in common with African Americans

    • @ifyourespondyourmad.2409
      @ifyourespondyourmad.2409 Год назад +1

      It was mostly indigenous who fought. Mestizos don't really exist. Mexico is not as mixed as people believe.

    • @ifyourespondyourmad.2409
      @ifyourespondyourmad.2409 Год назад

      @@hnewman2907 all wrong. I base my arguements based on the real world. Cause as you know even data can be modified or generalized to fit someones narrative. Just like generalizing a great percentage of latinamerica as "mestizo".

  • @justinbell700
    @justinbell700 Год назад +3

    Vicente Guerrero to me was more African than Mexican Africa to the world 🌎🌍🌍

    • @charlesleeray8512
      @charlesleeray8512 Год назад +3

      His hair ain't even nappy...

    • @justinbell700
      @justinbell700 Год назад

      @@charlesleeray8512 yeah but not all Africans are nappyheaded

    • @maxferreti5923
      @maxferreti5923 11 месяцев назад

      @@charlesleeray8512with enough admixture of straight hair women in there like Native Americans who are known for thick straight hair in those times; he’s still black for example in today’s pop culture the Tate Brothers don’t exactly have nappy hair especially Tristan Tate , he’s far from having it nappy and is a happy coincidence that he’s texture is similar to Vicente Guerrero , but if u look at there father he looks more black with nappier hair if u will , and even nappier if u go farther back on the patriarchal line , so u see that argument is irrelevant in the context of multiracial person u can’t really base it all on looks or hair texture , so just like Andrew and Tristan Tate he is of Shem a black man even if it’s to the point where they look less African that their great fore fathers ; I’ll take it a step farther with the Tate example, look at the type women their with Ukrainian European women; u think children coming out of those pairings will have nappy hair lol, no they won’t you’d think their European but the gift of the great fore father is black so they are black , now if a daughter of Shem gets with a son of Japheth guess what those children out of that paring would be Of Japheth not Shem Wich in this example that’s what the mother would be a daughter of Shem

    • @maxferreti5923
      @maxferreti5923 11 месяцев назад

      And no he is and will be Mexican beacuse it was in Mexico where he did all this things that he did where he rose to prominence and where he was born , not in the US and not in Africa . That’s overlooking obstacles people of other lands put against black people and is taking credit for Mexico beating the us and the African nations where most if not all the presidents where of Ham not Shem , he was of Shems line the line that was snuffed out of there promised land , and taken into captivity in the americas , sold to the sons of Japheth by Sons of Ham; even beating America to this day where they have Barack Obama as there first black president Wich is a good thing but more than likely he is a Son Of Ham Wich is indicated by his fathers origin, so Mexico in this sphere of the world had the first Black president Descendent of Shems line.

    • @teresaguerrasalazar
      @teresaguerrasalazar 11 месяцев назад +1

      If would have asked him he would have told you I'm not African I do not look like Mike Tyson