The Forgotten Controversy of the 3DS Launch

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @krono9451
    @krono9451 2 года назад +2494

    Actually, a 3DS was approved for use at Moorfields Eye Hospital (Hospital aligned with my university, UCL) for treating amblyopia (or lazy eye) in children!

    • @paigeconnelly4244
      @paigeconnelly4244 2 года назад +167

      It's more than that. It's the oldest sepcialist opthamology hosital and biggest of It's kind in the whole continent of Europe. And NHS, so completely free for British taxpayers. It's also aligned with Barts and the London Medical School (QMUL) and City UoL.

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart 2 года назад +30

      Really? Weird . I was actually operated because of that. Still a bit visible if you look closely. Anyway as a consequence of that I can only see with one eye. So either left or right.

    • @smore8566
      @smore8566 2 года назад +52

      Whoa no way! I have amblyopia and loved my 3DS for that reason: it felt like it really helped my lazy eye

    • @jamesterpaul
      @jamesterpaul 2 года назад +5

      Is that related to that one iCarly episode where they have 3d?

    • @aubreyh1930
      @aubreyh1930 2 года назад +6

      Can anyone find a source for this? Looked it up and found nothing about it being usable for treatment, just finding the issues

  • @FinnbarrGoesFast
    @FinnbarrGoesFast 2 года назад +1232

    We had the book "Henry's magic eye" or something at my primary school library, which everyone loved for the secret pop out 3D images, which I never once saw. I also thought 3D movies were overhyped because they just looked messy and not even 3D. I got a 3DS when I was 12 or so, and played with the 3D off because it didn't really do a lot for me. Turns out I had amblyopia, but instead of realising I was missing out, I just assumed all 3D products were a bit shit lol

    • @Vgamer311
      @Vgamer311 2 года назад +106

      If it makes you feel any better, most of them are a bit shit, even for people with perfectly functioning eyes. I know a lot of people who have absolutely nothing wrong with them who can never see the images in hidden eye images, and the 3ds 3D effect is pretty shallow even when working correctly

    • @pinccgoshsuperfantwo
      @pinccgoshsuperfantwo 2 года назад +37

      I didn't know until I was 20 that I had amblyopia and it really sucked to just "find out" after I had been trying to get 3d to work.

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 2 года назад +5

      Well, even now, 3D tech in general is still shit. So you really didnt miss out that much in that field

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 2 года назад +14

      @@Vgamer311 The 3D worked really well for me on the 3DS so that might just be variations in people even without having an eye condition cause I've seen both point of views online that the 3D either worked super well for them or didn't work all that well at all.

    • @nazaxprime
      @nazaxprime 2 года назад +4

      *so I aggressively lobbied against them and never admired it to anyone until now.
      😂

  • @squiddler7731
    @squiddler7731 2 года назад +299

    Nintendo had actually cut the price of the 3DS before the Vita launched, so there was never a point where they were both on the market at the same time for the same price

    • @joebot86
      @joebot86 2 года назад +11

      They also were not selling it at a loss at 260, and I'm not sure they were at 180 either.

    • @cheesewedge
      @cheesewedge 2 года назад +12

      @@joebot86 All consoles are sold at a loss, so that the games can provide a massive profit

    • @joebot86
      @joebot86 2 года назад +35

      @@cheesewedge this isn't totally true, Nintendo in particular uses old parts to keep costs down so that it can profit on both games and console. In fact, for the switch, Nintendo explicitly said they made profit per unit sold.
      From further research: the 3DS was sold at a profit at it's original price, the price cut took it into loss territory for a year until manufacturing got cheaper.

    • @jzatchbell
      @jzatchbell 2 года назад +6

      @@cheesewedge Sony and Microsoft always sell at a loss. Nintendo sells at a profit or very rarely at Cost.

    • @genderender
      @genderender 2 года назад +5

      @@joebot86 The price cut nuked profits until Christmas since the only titles at the time were Ocarina of Time and uh. Once MK7 and 3D Land came out, things looked a lot better wrt profitability. And by the time that Pokemon XY had come out, costs had come down enough for the XL and 2DS to be released with very little loss. The Wii U always sold for a loss however

  • @CLR438
    @CLR438 4 года назад +806

    Back in early 2011 I was in army and I listened a ton of radio because of this. A popular rock station in my country ran a campaign where the hosts played the release titles and it felt really bizarre to me at the time. It felt odd that Nintendo would market their device so heavily on a station that mostly men between the ages 30-50 would listen to.
    I wonder if Nintendo changed their marketing because they were worried that parents would refuse to buy 3DS for their children?

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 года назад +273

      Yooo this is actually a really neat point, a lot of the early trailers focus on either just the games or adults, whereas later trailers (especially the 2DS) focus on kids using the system.

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 2 года назад +59

      @@BobbyBroccoli I remember the market for the "new" 3ds was focused on adults too, with monster hunter 3 being the selling point.

    • @krzlcve
      @krzlcve 2 года назад +8

      @@radiokunio3738 oh yeah fs, when that came out it wasn't in kids interest

    • @nazaxprime
      @nazaxprime 2 года назад +11

      This isn't Nintendo's first rodeo, they know their markets exactly and when to leverage their advantages.

  • @graynoita
    @graynoita 2 года назад +379

    As someone who is very nearsighted, I loved using the 3D on games it worked with. I didn't notice much if any eye strain from it. But not long after I got my first 3Ds my eyes got bad enough to where the range away from my eyes I generally held my 3DS was getting blurry from my nearsightedness getting worse. The head tracking in the new 3DS helped a LOT.
    And no I don't think the 3DS made my eyes any worse. I'm genetically predisposed to nearsightedness and both my parents have it, my mom's eyes are even worse than mine. The rate they got worse didn't change when I started using the 3DS and leveled out well before I stopped using the console, as I imagine would be expected as I had finished growing.

    • @jadedfire4351
      @jadedfire4351 Год назад

      genuinely yeah, the head tracking made the 3d a lot more useable

    • @sorryifoldcomment8596
      @sorryifoldcomment8596 Месяц назад

      Yup, 0 time spent playing videos games and same thing still happened to me. 😔
      My vision degradation has reflected my parents as well.

  • @nathanswag1006
    @nathanswag1006 4 года назад +920

    Parents: NOOOO YOU CANT PUT 3D IN YOUR SYSTEM! YOU’RE PUTTING KIDS IN DANGER!!!!
    Nintendo: Haha Mario go jump and he pops out

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 года назад +92

      lmao

    • @RamsTheNameCom
      @RamsTheNameCom 4 года назад +54

      @FatalNathan .....Mario Jumped and he popped out at me. At first it seemed like a gimmicky 3D effect, but he Jump Man Ma Ma Mario became hyper realistic and bleed at me from his fuckin' beautiful eyelashes... From that day on, I ducktape the 3Ds 3d switch to the off position and learned never ouch my peepee hole.
      (There's my 3DS creepy pasta).

    • @CypressConroy
      @CypressConroy 4 года назад +20

      RamsTheNameCom wtf did I just read

    • @RamsTheNameCom
      @RamsTheNameCom 4 года назад +10

      @@CypressConroy You just read my Creepy Pasta parody. I mean "FatalNathan" did say that Mario jumps and he pops out at you.

    • @happyjohn1656
      @happyjohn1656 2 года назад

      You're*
      11:32 PM
      2/3/2022

  • @Hansgame
    @Hansgame 2 года назад +280

    a bit off topic, but i found it always super funny that the "dual screen" feature was already invented by nintendo in the early 1980´s and they already sold 40 mil. + of this weird handhelds that only had 1 game on it (Game & Watch). that they recycled the idea almost 30 years later and it was still a huge success is even more epic.

    • @vurpo7080
      @vurpo7080 2 года назад +51

      Good ideas don't age. I mean we're still playing video games on big flat rectangles like 50 years later

    • @intrepidnick2939
      @intrepidnick2939 2 года назад

      look at these betas not in meta smh

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 2 года назад +1

      I so wish for a dual screened Switch

    • @bananian
      @bananian 2 года назад +1

      Resell it for every generation lol

    • @cheesedari8899
      @cheesedari8899 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bareq99switch screen and tv screen

  • @ricinaddict
    @ricinaddict 2 года назад +596

    unfortunately i am blind in one eye from birth and i remember feeling personally betrayed by nintendo when the 3ds first came out. for the record i was 10

    • @DougieJenson
      @DougieJenson 2 года назад +64

      I felt betrayed because there wasn't a left handed model.

    • @pablocl3186
      @pablocl3186 2 года назад +60

      @@DougieJenson have there ever been left handed models for nintendo consoles? just curious

    • @el.tuerto
      @el.tuerto 2 года назад +10

      Heyyyy I have one eye too bro you aren’t alone I felt that way too

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 года назад +17

      You really aren't missing out on anything with this console, even with the improved tracking new 3ds it occasionally glitches out if you look away, or tilt your head, or fucking blink, goes from an interesting gimmick to actually making your eyes hurt.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 2 года назад +3

      @@DougieJenson but there (kinda) were
      Some games ask you and give you the option to either use your left or right hand

  • @championoflove3638
    @championoflove3638 4 года назад +153

    Just incredible. This video was completely + utterly entertaining, informative and well made. Not only did you communicate these complex ideas to the layman well using your graphics and words, but you did it without severely dumbing down important information. Not an easy thing to do! I just hope that you get views that you deserve someday. Until then, we utterly appreciate your work Bobby.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 года назад +24

      Thanks so much! I've been meaning to make my videos more technical for a while now and I wanted to do it in a way my existing fans find entertaining. Making it too dry was my biggest worry, so I'm glad people find it easy to follow. This was the best cross-section of my interests since my research at school is in photonics, so the 3DS seemed like the perfect topic.

    • @hase3362
      @hase3362 2 года назад +5

      Well 1 year later and hes blowing up. 25k subs in a week, maybe even more..

    • @justinhunt1714
      @justinhunt1714 2 года назад +1

      And I here I am just discovering this amazing channel 2 years later tonight and this is some.high quality content right here.
      I've watched 3 videos and I'm loving it

  • @DavidJamesHenry
    @DavidJamesHenry 2 года назад +82

    I remember the horrible launch specifically because it was so discounted at Toys R Us to get people to buy them that my poor mom and her meager salary was able to get 3 3DS systems for my brother, my sister, and me for 100 bucks each.
    That's a core memory because it was my first taste of luxury in my childhood.

    • @TheHortoman
      @TheHortoman Год назад +8

      Wow i wouldve felt so fucking spoiled (in a good way) if all of my siblings got a 3ds, a 3ds no less. Props to your mom im glad everything turned alright

  • @LalitoTV
    @LalitoTV 2 года назад +200

    Imagine if the 3DS had launched with the new 3DS' screen upgrade, it's honestly shocking how great it works on the newer models, almost like magic compared to the original

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 года назад +5

      Is it? I started with the new 3ds and hate the 3d, doesn't work well and if it loses tracking it fucking hurts, the original must have been horrific

    • @Clarkzer0
      @Clarkzer0 2 года назад +19

      @@tumbles8350 Yeah, it's much, much better. Not exceptionally great, but so much better than original it's night and day.

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 года назад +6

      @@Clarkzer0 rip all those who had their eyes melted by the og

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 2 года назад +1

      @@tumbles8350 it's awesome!
      Never had the og 3DS to compare, but the new 3DS screen is a really cool thing that I wish would have seen more widespread adoption

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Год назад

      @@tumbles8350 my eyes would refocus every 15-30 seconds on the original, and every time it took a sec to readjust and see the 3D. Also if you twisted or tilted it at all it stopped working so you had to have your arms out really straight. I turned it off after 20 minutes and never turned it on again. Tried a New one, it definitely worked properly, but I didn’t care enough to re-purchase the system.

  • @inkuii
    @inkuii 2 года назад +59

    I remember all the hysteria on the 3ds and eyesight back in the day. It took a lot of persuading my parents and the release of Pokemon X and Y for me to finally get the XL model…only to turn on the 3d feature once and then keeping it off anyway

  • @xXJerry202Xx
    @xXJerry202Xx Месяц назад +4

    The evolution of this channel is hilarious. Stick drawings to game reviews to physics/telecom scandals. I love this.

  • @peblezQ
    @peblezQ 2 года назад +65

    As a kid, I didn't realize I had a stigmatizm that made it harder for one of my eyes to focus, so 3D has never looked right for me because of that and I never understood the appeal because I never got to experience it properly

    • @Romcomm_
      @Romcomm_ 2 года назад +1

      i have astigmatism too but only had the new xl model, it worked pretty well for me, not sure if i'd have a issue with the older model though so i cant really compare

    • @abbiepancakeeater52
      @abbiepancakeeater52 2 года назад +3

      the 3d worked for me as far as im aware but i never used it because it did make me a little uncomfortable, plus it was a hassle to stay in the same position to ensure the 3d stayed working.

    • @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978
      @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978 Год назад +1

      I have pretty bad astigmatism and the 3ds did look 3d for me as a kid, but it did make my eyes hurt a LOT within only like a minute.

    • @ReerPeak
      @ReerPeak 10 месяцев назад

      Dude you just made me realize why I hated the 3D so much, I was told I have an astigmatism like 3 or 4 years after getting my 3DS

  • @aldebaran_
    @aldebaran_ 2 года назад +60

    I miss the 3D when playing Mario Kart on the 3DS (versus playing Mario Kart now on the Switch). The depth of field not only made it so much more immersive but easier to identify where to turn

    • @StormBurnX
      @StormBurnX 2 года назад +2

      Same. Trying to play non-3DS 3D Mario titles (like the Wii u one, and odyssey) are particularly frustrating now in comparison. Mario kart is more about timing once you're up to speed, so it's a little easier to manage without 3D, but it really truly was wonderful.

    • @ipadbossbaby4558
      @ipadbossbaby4558 Год назад

      I thought the 3D Mario game benefitted massively from the depth of field too. A lot easier to judge platform distance when you can literally sense it

  • @g-radical349
    @g-radical349 Год назад +10

    I watched this video at some point a couple years ago, and found myself watching it again today. I laughed my head off at 5.25, coz when I watched it the first time round I watched it with two eyes. But 6 months ago I lost my left eye in an accident, and your condolences felt incredibly personalised and I appreciate the inclusion in a way I hadn't anticipated.
    Thank you, you're a bloody legend.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  Год назад +4

      I'm sorry to hear that! Hope you're doing okay

    • @g-radical349
      @g-radical349 Год назад +2

      @@BobbyBroccoli thanks mate, yeh it's definitely been an adjustment - but it's been a lot easier to adapt to the changes than I had imagined it to be honestly. Plus I get to wear a dope eye patch now unironically ;) But yeh man, that single sentence hit me hard because it made me realise how it hadn't even registered the first time around. And your explanation of it would have made sense without it, but putting it in there anyway made that part a lot more engaging for me as it took me along with the journey just through acknowledgement,
      Anyway it's cool to me to have had the chance to feel what inclusivity feels like for the first meaningful time on a personal level. It's something I've thought about a bunch in my own work, and try to put into practice where I can, but until now it's been one of those things I'd only been able to understand on a theoretical level, Keep up the awesome work and excellent videos, I'm amped for the upcoming part 2!

  • @laggingdragons
    @laggingdragons 2 года назад +20

    Fun fact, if you can cross your eyes you can see a stereogram in 3D without any fancy lenses by overlapping the images so there is three of them and focusing on the middle one

  • @starffruit
    @starffruit 2 года назад +7

    wow this is … really wild to watch. this handheld was definitely a majority of my childhood (i’m 20 now); i had the DS lite, DSi, and DSi XL, but the 3DS took up a majority of the 2010s for me as my favorite console. the new 2DS XL specifically is my favorite of the 3DS family, and i’ll never stop loving that thing.
    it’s really interesting to see how much controversy surrounded this family-at least in its early days. since i was, uh, 10 when the 3DS launched, i had no idea that any of this really happened, besides the whole “the 3DS will melt children’s eyes” thing, since my grandma was worried about that until she realized i very rarely used the 3D function (and with the 2DS XL, i can’t and don’t want to use it in the first place).
    this is just generally a really fascinating video to me. very informational too. i appreciate the effort you put into this!

  • @shauyaun4285
    @shauyaun4285 2 года назад +40

    After 10 years i still daily drive my 3DS and i have not had a streetpass hit in sooooooooo long :(

    • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
      @BigOlSmellyFlashlight 2 года назад +7

      i've almost never had streetpass hits and i've had a 3ds since launch day. gotta love small town usa

    • @ipadbossbaby4558
      @ipadbossbaby4558 Год назад

      Praying the switch 2 has street pass and miiverse 🙏

  • @hatwearinggamer
    @hatwearinggamer 4 года назад +98

    This was so interesting to watch

  • @NevaehBeatez
    @NevaehBeatez 2 года назад +8

    I got the 3DS XL for Christmas and it helped diagnose my astigmatism because I thought 3D was on when it wasn't because I had double vision

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 2 года назад +1

    8:10 - Stereograms. A neighbor of mine, took photographs of a freeway, from a airplane when is close to landing, then took two consecutive photos and put them in an old stereo viewer. The 3D effect made the cars on the freeway look like they where floating 100s of feet above the freeway.

  • @alex.thedeadite
    @alex.thedeadite 2 года назад +13

    9:06 "not used for very long" meaning until mid to late 2000s as most movies still used cyan and red well into the new millennium. Sharkboy and Lava Girl was one of the last I can think of to use Red and Cyan lenses. The only places I saw polarized used was in museums and theme parks before then.

    • @important9836
      @important9836 10 месяцев назад

      I wonder if this is a location specific difference. Polarized (non coloured) 3d glasses were introduced in the 80's, and I still have a pair from the first 3d movie I went to in 2001, which are polarized.

    • @bickyboo7789
      @bickyboo7789 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@important9836 probably from pop culture thinking red and blue lenses just looked cool during the 80s and 90s up until the early 00s. I remember some comic book and cartoon characters wearing the white paper 3D glasses back then as just for their overall asthetic.

  • @joeganbogan270
    @joeganbogan270 2 года назад +27

    Great video! It's funny though, I feel like the only one who really used the 3D religiously, and while the effect was cool, it was mostly just because I preferred how games looked with the halved horizontal resolution.

  • @chriswalker4053
    @chriswalker4053 2 года назад +23

    It was really interesting hearing about 3d image rendering techniques. I work in audio and the principles are quite the same with 3d audio, particularly binaural sound, which ideally takes into account head shape and splitting a stereo sound into two discrete channels for each ear listening through headphones

  • @rainbcwdream
    @rainbcwdream 2 года назад +9

    One thing I noticed with my 3DS, is that if you turn on the 3D, there is this little red light inside the camera (though I may remember wrong), and it really felt like the 3D effect followed your eyes to a small extent. I assume the face tracking (if there is any, as it really felt like there was) is there to be able to show you the clearest image possible.

    • @rainbcwdream
      @rainbcwdream 2 года назад +2

      lmao, just got to the new 3ds part of the video, it makes sense now

  • @jiasheng
    @jiasheng 2 года назад +6

    lmao the classic 3d "will irreparably destroy your eyesight" or the "its brain damage, headaches!!!!!!" scare is great nostalgic memories for me, had my parents worried

  • @JammoYT
    @JammoYT 2 года назад +8

    As a kid, I really wanted a 3DS when it came out. But my mum forbid it because she read about it damaging eyes. But luckily my dad decided to be cool and buy one for me for Christmas of 2012

  • @DaddyPoobs
    @DaddyPoobs 4 года назад +40

    I love the visual examples you used to show how our eyes perceive 3D. Very education and very well produced. Great stuff!

  • @mariomario1849
    @mariomario1849 Год назад +1

    11:34 Slight correction/detail: most games render in 240x400 even in 2d mode, so each pixel rendered will be displayed as two pixels on the screen

  • @Mr_NB628
    @Mr_NB628 Год назад +2

    Thank you for your condolences. One of the few videos that actually makes mention to people that have one eye.
    Always bothered me that people keep coming out with all of these VR devices/AR and never makes any mention how it will work with somebody that has one eye.

  • @VillainMommy
    @VillainMommy Год назад +1

    i KNEW i was recognizing VVVVVV music thank you for putting that confirmation in the description i was going crazy for like 9 seconds there

  • @Vbeechu
    @Vbeechu 2 года назад +6

    4:50 I played with it off because I couldn't tell what it did, and then i realized almost all the games I played didn't have 3d support

  • @Gardelias
    @Gardelias 2 года назад +13

    I swear I was so used to the 3D effect that I'd turn it on in any game I could and would get upset with games that just didn't have it enabled because of framerate issues (I'm looking at you, Pokemon Y). It was just so cool and made the games feel much more alive to me, though it is also true that with some of them it was hard to play with 3D on for a long period of time (2+ hours).
    An example of that would be Dead or Alive Dimensions, where the 3D effect would make the separation between the characters on the screen and the background elements SO deep that it'd start giving actual dizziness looking at it for that long, so I would either turn it down to a minimal level or turn it off completely. The fact that you had to look at the screen straight and any angle would mess it up kinda sucked but wasn't too bad to deal with. Still wish I had the chance to trade my old 3DS for a new one back then lol.
    With that said, great video!

  • @AnniChu
    @AnniChu 2 года назад +3

    Wonderful video!! Very educational! I grew up playing the 3DS, besides the Wii it’s what REALLY got me hooked on gaming. I got my first 3DS Christmas of 2011 packaged with Nintendogs, haha. I think I remember my mom warning me not to use the 3D effect too much. I never did use it all that often anyways, but I do remember it making some things look particularly beautiful in games, such as the clear night sky in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I have such wonderful memories with the console and it absolutely shaped me into who I am today.

  • @fishhuh
    @fishhuh 2 года назад +38

    i remember when i got a 3ds when I was like, 7, that I thought the 3d feature was a "ok cool, whatever" thing. Like, I remember turning it on for maybe a few seconds at a time to see what certain things would look like with it on because I thought it was cool, but almost always had it turned off because it just hurt my eyes. The fact that people would actually sit down and use their 3ds with it on completely baffles me.
    (though to be fair, I suspect I also have poor binocular vision, as I've never been able to even watch 3d movies in the theatre as it hurt my eyes so much. The idea that people used their 3ds with the 3d feature on for longer than *30 minutes* makes my eyes hurt just thinking about it lmao)

    • @abbyb5690
      @abbyb5690 2 года назад +1

      Out of curiosity fo you have lazy eye? Edit: I also wonder about astigmatism. I'm asking because I'd like to know about whether these affect the ability to see in 3d in relation to the 3ds

    • @fishhuh
      @fishhuh 2 года назад +1

      @@abbyb5690 last time i went to the eye doctor they said i had very slight astigmatism, but im also very slightly farsighted. I say very slightly because these were small enough to just be comments the doctor made along the lines of "so you technically have this but its so mild its not really an issue", besides that i would have close to 20/20 vision

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Год назад +1

      @@fishhuh I relate to your original post and I also have astigmatism which is so mild that correction would be too much and cause more problems. Never thought about them relating to 3D enjoyment. Guess it makes sense tho.

  • @ArmundJay
    @ArmundJay 2 года назад +3

    man, i need to get a 'new' 3ds.
    my old og XL is on her last legs, and i still love playing the old ds and 3ds games.
    the fact that the switch couldn't have backwards compatibility will always be criminal.

  • @marymurphy1429
    @marymurphy1429 2 года назад +9

    I played with the 3d off, not because of any discomfort, but because you had hold the system in a specific way to have it work and with my can't sit still tendencies I just couldn't do that. Also it was cool, but more of a novelty than anything. I'm fine playing most games in 2d

  • @Nitroxity
    @Nitroxity 2 года назад +2

    I'm still trying to figure out 11 years later why one of my classmates in 3rd grade during the run-up to the launch of the 3DS thought that viewing the 3D for too long would cause people to swallow their tongue. Even as a nine year old I was baffled. My best guess is that it had to do with long proven falsities related to seizures, but that's stretching it considering the average elementary schooler doesn't know what epilepsy is, nor was that the main concern in any media coverage at the time.

  • @YomBouyashaka
    @YomBouyashaka 4 года назад +52

    I'm only 2min and 30s in, and I need to pause to say that I'd like to see an alternate reality where Sony didn't sabotaged the Vita themselves because they decided that all of their investments had to go to the PS4, it would be a very different market by now if they had kept supporting the studios developping exclusively handheld games mostly since the PsP. The PS4 wouldn't have been as huge of a success but with continuous support the Vita would have crushed it Capcom would have had to change their mind (no Monster Hunter on Vita is also a very "game changing" side of the story), they'd definitely have released a Vita 2 and I'm curious to know how it would have changed Nintendo's and Microsoft's plans and consoles. Maybe the hugely successful hybrid console of the market would be a Sony one, and knowing their way to embrace technology, it would have been a powerhouse compared with the Switch.

    • @blorglord
      @blorglord 20 дней назад

      this is highly unlikely, a very long what if scenario that depends on many variables to work. even if the vita succeeded i doubt sony as an entire megaconglomerate wouldve reconsidered their hatred for hybrid consoles. they clearly just dont want to make one or theyd spend their billions to make it. the switch has already spend 8 years btfoing sony into the ground and they have no urge to get up and defend themselves by releasing a new console. they didnt. they lose

  • @ameteuraspirant
    @ameteuraspirant 2 года назад +6

    One thing I want to mention at 13:00 is the newer 3ds models actually had a wider viewing angle for the 3d, and are much more comfortable experiences. I don't know exactly how they worked, but they basically used the camera to track your head's position to shift the "fence" in your analogy so that the effect didn't warp or break down until you got to some pretty extreme angles.

  • @bloodydoll5897
    @bloodydoll5897 2 года назад +4

    the new 3ds' eye tracking 3D was such a huge change for me and it made me so happy that I got to actually use the 3D (I like it!). i really like how you explain that, it seems like vanity for most people (and honestly, probably also just a marketting gimmick for the company as well), but for people like me it did change a lot, and i like that!

  • @natebardwell
    @natebardwell 2 года назад +10

    In fairness, I don't usually get eye fatigue but I couldn't get more than an hour of play in 3D mode before it really started messing with me. It put strain on my eyes for sure.

    • @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978
      @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978 Год назад +1

      I have astigmatism in both eyes and I could literally only turn it on for like a minute before it started hurting my eyes a lot

  • @Pablo360able
    @Pablo360able 2 года назад +34

    I’m glad you gave a brief shoutout to KI:U, the only game I use 3D for. It may have been by and large a gimmick for most games that used it, but that game really put the system to work. It’s also one of the funniest games ever made and there’s not enough love for it, I feel.

    • @debleb166
      @debleb166 2 года назад +5

      It's also good for Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Having it on in underwater areas makes positioning a good bit easier for me.

    • @ArmundJay
      @ArmundJay 2 года назад +3

      KI:U is one of my favorite games of all time; i've played that campaign through more times than i can count.

    • @SaintJosaphatBishopMartyr
      @SaintJosaphatBishopMartyr 2 года назад +1

      What does KI:U stand for?

    • @ArmundJay
      @ArmundJay 2 года назад +1

      @@SaintJosaphatBishopMartyr Kid Icarus: Uprising!
      Great 3DS game.

    • @SaintJosaphatBishopMartyr
      @SaintJosaphatBishopMartyr 2 года назад +1

      @@ArmundJay thanks ive heard that game is beloved

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu 4 года назад +3

    The algorithm suggested this channel, so hopefully that's a good sign for you. Good luck! I love videos like these.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 года назад +3

      Thanks! Really appreciate it. Out of curiosity, where did you get recommended it from?

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 4 года назад

      ​@@BobbyBroccoli I actually have some detail that I can provide with this. On Oct 4 around maybe 2-4pm CST I searched "bill nye saves the world". It was the 4th result. The 1st result was the official Netflix trailer, the 2nd was "Bill Nye DESTROYS the gender binary with an abacus (part 1)" by a youtuber called WewLad, the 3rd video was an upload of the "My Sex Junk" song, and the 4th was your video. The rest of the videos after yours are all just clips from the show, some official some third party uploads.
      Hope the extra details help out a bit. Your videos on the Bell Labs scandal are extremely interesting. Thank you!

  • @ShadowSneak.
    @ShadowSneak. 4 года назад +5

    The baseball clip made me flinch lol
    Awsome video tho, i would love to see more in the future :)

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee Год назад +1

    Its crazy to think that the trajectory of this channel completely changed all because of a video about the 3DS

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  Год назад +3

      I was already kind of moving away from video game stuff honestly. Photonics was the topic of my master's, and I had just had a 2nd professor bring up Hendrik Schon by the time this was released. My interest in that story and the fact there was no good video online about it is what changed things

  • @Fred-tz7hs
    @Fred-tz7hs 2 года назад +1

    18:25
    If it doesn't even impact your normal life in a negative way, it's not a "disability" also not a "mild disability". It only impacts the 3DS "3D feature", which you can just turn off.
    You are healthy enough to not even notice your eyeball struggling in normal life.

  • @robertgoodberry
    @robertgoodberry 4 года назад +2

    Great watch. Also really appreciated the use of the Green Brinstar theme.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 года назад

      Thanks! I've been using it a lot for vaguely science related videos. Seems to fit

  • @THEYoungDuh
    @THEYoungDuh Месяц назад

    Found this channel the other day and have been watching non stop, I really appreciate the condolences when explaining 3d as I only see out of 1 eye

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh 2 года назад +1

    5:22 Condolences? My 3rd eye is quite the gift.

  • @Asigretar
    @Asigretar 4 года назад +5

    Amazing video I'm surprised how underrated you are.

  • @archivushka
    @archivushka 2 года назад +4

    Sadly, there's no 3d nausea, instead you don't notice the 3d effect after a few minutes (if everything is set up correctly)

  • @freduccini7423
    @freduccini7423 2 года назад +3

    I had a couple friends whos parents refused to buy them a 3ds family system until the 2ds came out because of these concerns. even back then I knew that their parents were worried over an overhyped "issue"

  • @SuperToad128
    @SuperToad128 Год назад +1

    My dad got it for me at launch. No games until 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 in Nov & Dec respectively. Didn’t care, was just happy to finally play Mario 64 DS with a circle pad.

  • @LoverofChildren
    @LoverofChildren 2 года назад +4

    I have astigmatism and struggled to see the 3D even with my glasses on, but with the New 3DS I don't even have an issue without them. It's a design philosophy that is very surprising to see from a large company, especially one who's been notoriously greedy. It demonstrates that despite the greed, the ones working on their products really care about their consumers.

    • @Pavlinka__
      @Pavlinka__ Год назад +1

      Oh, that's interesting. I also have astigmatism but i don't recall any problems with 3d personally. I actually see things 3d even if they're not, lol. Maybe I'm overcompensating.

  • @AndrewClark5
    @AndrewClark5 2 года назад +1

    I remember as a kid being pissed that my brand new 3DS was broken and the so-called “3D” mode only made the top screen unusably blurry.
    Turns out my eyes are just misaligned and not even my nuclear-strength glasses prescription could make the 3DS work for me

  • @angelorf
    @angelorf 2 года назад +24

    You're missing one important point. In real world vision the distance of an object determines both the difference in angle between the eyes, but also the amount of focus. For objects which are closer the eyes are angled more toward each other, and the lenses of the eyes are more round to get the picture in focus. With a 3DS these two systems have to be decoupled, because your focus is based on the distance to the screen, but the angle between the eyes is determined by the 3D images being shown. When your brain learns to decouple these two systems they might work less well in the real world, meaning that your focus is not in tune with the distance to objects. This might lead to blurred vision or perhaps even to the need of glasses. These problems are even bigger for systems like the 3DS, because at close range the effects of focus and looking direction are more pronounced. I haven't done empirical research, though. I'm not sure at which age these systems are considered fully formed or whether its possible for the brain to decouple these systems. Nevertheless I think it's a big oversight not to mention the relation between focus and vergence.

    • @tomshraderd4915
      @tomshraderd4915 10 месяцев назад

      Except this is already mentioned at 21:40.

  • @Violant3
    @Violant3 2 года назад +9

    i love 3d, it's such a cool technology, feels like magic to see something pop out of a screen, and to see that nintendo actually made it work without glasses is really impressive, it's a shame that the fad died down, i really enjoy playing games with 3d turned on.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 2 года назад +3

      Same, I wish my PC monitor had that technology, but I fear we may never get 3D screens again once VR headsets get widespread adoption

  • @lorenzo8755
    @lorenzo8755 2 года назад +1

    wait, i remember having problem watching the 3d in my 3ds ... guess I should get that checked

  • @featherlikescartoons5098
    @featherlikescartoons5098 Год назад

    I listen to videos like these while I draw, and your channel was a joy to stumble on! Thanks for making great content and keep at it!

  • @tinycatfriend
    @tinycatfriend 2 года назад +1

    i completely missed out on the 3DS in my childhood bc i have severe nystagmus (eyes shake too much) which leaves me without depth perception. i never thought to get one bc why would i? it's a little sad looking back, especially knowing i could just turn it off! ah well, i ended up buying a 2DS for myself in 2016 so i didn't miss everything of that era. the thing won't turn on anymore and i might just pick up a used one before the eshop closes! gotta catch up on some classics i missed!
    great video btw, you explained things really clearly and it's really entertaining! i've subbed and i'm wishing you the best of luck with the algorithm gods

  • @jonathangrandorf1104
    @jonathangrandorf1104 2 года назад +7

    "monochromatic motion sickness machine" i laughed way too hard at this

  • @snugglemuffins762
    @snugglemuffins762 2 года назад +3

    I have binocular vision dysfunction and have terrible depth perception and lots of eye issues, I was never able to handle the 3DS and never knew why as a kid till my diagnosis

  • @_goopho
    @_goopho 2 года назад +1

    just discovered this channel, what's up with the 20k sub count?! the Schön scandal series alone is top YT content that begs word-of-mouth virality at the very least... may the algorithm be in your favor, esteemed broccoli

  • @hammieli1875
    @hammieli1875 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for leaving an apple outside Tunny’s Pasture station. It was delicious.

  • @potatoria
    @potatoria 2 года назад +2

    wow your videos are so interesting and well made, even for topics I wasn’t too interested in when I first clicked on them. u have a great ability to tell a compelling narrative that is also balanced and educational.
    I had a 3DS as a kid but I never used the feature much. And only recently found I had amblyopia, so growing up I just assumed strained eyes were a part of the 3D experience.

  • @abdelali9279
    @abdelali9279 2 года назад +3

    2:11 why is there a picture of a empty room?

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  2 года назад +2

      I totally forgot what part of the video this was so you got a genuine laugh out of me

  • @macaylacayton2915
    @macaylacayton2915 2 года назад +2

    the eye problems point is accurate, i have one weak eye and one good eye and when i was young i had astigstism or however you spell it so i had to get it corrected by wearing an eye patch provided by the eye doc and had to wear it daily on my weak eye because it would bounce around. it was detected because I reported to my parents 'bouncing images' even when the images were still, so they looked at my eyes and noticed something was off, my weak eye was not staying still so we went to the doctor, and started the eye patch treatment. I'm 20 and my weak eye(my left eye) is still a problem from time to time, not that bad considering my right eye is just fine(well right eye has gotten slightly weaker but not too much).

  • @skybluskyblueify
    @skybluskyblueify 2 месяца назад

    I came here from Pete Judo's channel due to a comment about Schon. I hope P. Judo gave enough credit to Bobby. Glad someone mentioned this channel.

  • @horusreloaded6387
    @horusreloaded6387 Год назад +1

    Wait how did this channel. Suddenly went from gaming videos to straight up science documentaries?
    I had hard time with the first video I watched but I respect now(that videos is still too slow at times though)

  • @polygonvvitch
    @polygonvvitch Месяц назад

    I remember the only time I got to see a 3DS in person, at a game store, I was going through my usual sinus infection nightmare that hits me every time the seasons change, and I couldn't keep my eyes on those screens for more than 5 seconds.

  • @GloriaTheAnimator
    @GloriaTheAnimator 2 года назад +1

    i never got the 3D effect to work for me in cinemas, it was always just blurry and messy, now i know why thank you

  • @serenkeating7672
    @serenkeating7672 2 года назад +4

    Can confirm that using just one eye impairs your depth perception in a way that significantly impairs your ability to navigate the world. One time I had to take local anaesthetic eyedrops, that also made my iris unable to contact for about a week. To protect my eye, I wore an eyepatch for the week, and you would not believe how much I was bumping into things.

  • @av.punk.801
    @av.punk.801 Год назад

    I actually own an old camera designed with 6:39 this concept in mind. In its day, they processed special lenticular sheets but even now, if you still wanna shell out for a lenticular sheet (of admittedly lower quality) or just load em into Krita and make a 3D gif! It's also got 4 lenses and an interesting history

  • @jaws8621
    @jaws8621 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ha it's funny I remember when I played my friend's 3DS I couldn't figure out why the 3d didn't work for me. Years later I found out I had alternating exotropia.

  • @kamikage9420
    @kamikage9420 2 года назад +1

    I always used to think 3D, especially on the 3DS was just something that never worked properly, until I had my eyes tested and found out that my left eye has a focus range of about 3 inches, when my right eye can actually see decently by comparison.

  • @MORPHOSYS
    @MORPHOSYS 2 года назад

    thank you for using news footage from my local fox station because i havent seen those newscasters since i was a middle schooler

  • @scragar
    @scragar 2 года назад +3

    Ai used to play with 3d off because for some reason for me to see the 3D even at the lowest setting I needed to hold the console at arms reach, and with such a small screen on the initial 3DS that just rendered text impossible to read.
    It's something I turned on when I needed it for of the Mario 3D world levels and left it off the rest of the time.

  • @danttesilva7467
    @danttesilva7467 2 года назад +1

    I remember the battery on the 3ds being GOD LEVEL

  • @Nianfur
    @Nianfur 2 года назад +3

    Then they released the 'New' models, and the 3D became a truly outstanding feature that should always be turned on.

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 2 года назад +5

    never a bad time to learn about real-life physics of games.

  • @Xhadp
    @Xhadp 2 года назад +2

    Yeah I remember the 3DS launch. Now how many people remember the Pokemon Black / White Launch? The pokemon game got so much terrible flack yet no one apparently remembers it nowadays and just says yeah pokemon black got terrible advice at launch but it is awesome now! That I genuinely wonder how many people will even go into detail about why the games got so much flack at launch.

  • @ThymeWalk
    @ThymeWalk 2 года назад +6

    I wonder if I have an undiagnosed eye condition. I've never been able to see the 3D effect in movie theaters and I remember not being very fond of the 3DS's 3d either. I can see it but it makes my eyes hurt. I definitely have stereoscopic vision and my depth perception works perfectly fine, in fact I'm pretty good at juggling and catching things. But yeah these 3D effects have never worked for me, I'm not sure why

    • @Hansengineering
      @Hansengineering 2 года назад +5

      I always thought my new 3ds's 3d effect kinda sucked. It worked, but not terribly great. I had not played it for a while until this week. I now find the 3D effect to be quite seamless. The difference: I got glasses to handle an astigmatism. I still had 20/15 vision even with the fuzz, but especially staring at a computer monitor for 8 hours at a go would be *really* taxing. Glasses fixed that, and let me enjoy the 3D in the 3DS as well.
      Get an eye exam!

  • @pyramidserum
    @pyramidserum 3 дня назад

    12:46
    i have amblyopia from strabismus as a child. signals in my left eye aren’t processed as clear in my occipital cortex due to the muscle in my left eye not properly aligning with my right when looking at an object and this affected its development. even with intense eye care before 6. my left started turning inward when i was 1 or 2 but my eye was corrected so much it turned outward! crazy shit.
    even having muscle tighening surgery in that eye a decade after i was born the developmental damage was already done. i’m not blind; i can still see light and color and movement through my left eye and i can interpret what i’m seeing as long as it doesn’t require sharp acuity. it’s just blurry and my field of vision is very slightly horizontally squished compared to the visual field in my normally developed right eye.
    i can tell my brain prefers my right eye and i see most of the world through it because when i close my left eye and look solely through my right, the angle of my visual field does not change at all from having both eyes open, but the angle changes dramatically when i close my right eye and solely look out of my left.
    16:55
    i’m glad to hear someone talk about it because that’s my experience, though i was a preteen at the point when i got the 3DS. i was kind of bummed the 3DS’s gimmick didn’t fully work for me, or 3D movies for that matter, or most stereoscopic toys. i could kind of see the 3D parallax effect through my dominant right eye but i know i wasn’t getting the full effect. the illusion was frequently broken with just the slightest shift of position in how i held the 3DS. i just played with 3D off because it was more annoying than anything when the immersion was constantly broken.

  • @interrobangings
    @interrobangings 2 года назад +2

    19:30 OG 3DS always had an iffy effect for me. N3DSXL fixed basically all the issues I had

  • @khalilthehistorian7454
    @khalilthehistorian7454 Год назад

    This video feels like a Transitional video between the Video games era of Bobby broccoli and the Science Scandals era of Bobby Broccoli

  • @sir_no_name1478
    @sir_no_name1478 Месяц назад

    Bro you give me so much nostalgia with the super metroid themed music

  • @TrevisoStealth
    @TrevisoStealth Год назад +1

    Hey there, I heard the LEGO City Undercover Police Station Ambience used in the section around 19 minutes in. Just noticed it wasn't in the music credits, probably a mix up?

    • @JaiSingh-kd8pz
      @JaiSingh-kd8pz Месяц назад

      lol cant believe someone else noticed this

  • @PixPMusic
    @PixPMusic Месяц назад

    This video just popped into my recommended. Neat channel.
    Interesting note: I have mildly degraded depth perception and mostly only use my left eye. The 3DS worked surprisingly well for me, but the N3DS worked better for me due to my eye condition, nystagmus, which is an automatic movement of the eye. My vision itself doesn’t shift, but my pupils do, and the eye tracking seemed to help keep the effect more “stable”

  • @scraps7624
    @scraps7624 2 года назад +1

    Dude your channel is a treasure, great work!

  • @sarat3541
    @sarat3541 Месяц назад

    I got diagnosed with a lazy eye when I was 7 and they actually encouraged me to use video games as a way to improve my vision in my left eye

  • @HOOTwheelz
    @HOOTwheelz 2 года назад +1

    saw your jon bois inspired video about the fraudulent researcher, and I'm glad your other videos are just as high quality even if they arent in the same style. but I gotta say, the transition to the title card - starting from a macro shot of a monitor's pixel grid and going into a really wacky, dithered mess until it becomes the title card - was absolutely gorgeous. maybe I feel as such because that mess of dithering in the middle of the transition is directly pandering to my love of the ditherpunk aesthetic (think of a GIFs lossy image quality used with artistic intent rather than a compromise for the sake of file size) but I love it a lot. If you're interested in trying out a new aesthetic for a new video, I recommend playing Critters For Sale to get a good feel for that kind of style. It's a cheap, mildly unsettling game due to its heavy usage of image morphing and that one image modification program that can take an image of a person and stamp a smile on them to create an intentional feeling of uncanniness which is made more uncanny by the ditherpunk style, but the humor within the game also makes it incredibly entertaining and accessible for cowardly idiots like me who can't stand jumpscare-slut horror games but love the unsettling psychological nature of them.
    TL;DR: title card transition make my brain go brrrr good job consider doing it more
    edit: if you *are* interested in making something within the ditherpunk style, I used Davinci Resolve as a video editor and purchased a plugin for Resolve known as Retro Dither, which makes the process of creating dithered gorgeousness as easy as moving sliders and clicking buttons. I used it to create a background video for a chart I made on Clone Hero and in my opinion, it kicks a lot of ass lmao. I believe Retro Dither is also available for Premiere and After Effects, but not Vegas - which I believe is the software you use. that said, I'm sure doing a web search for "dither plugin for Sony Vegas" will pop at least some results.

  • @LeftHandGloveClub
    @LeftHandGloveClub 2 года назад +1

    @6:10 is that the building off 280 going towards Newark?

  • @ThePaulineu
    @ThePaulineu 2 года назад

    Thanks for this! It made perfect sense.

  • @TwiliPaladin
    @TwiliPaladin 2 года назад +1

    "Hilariously ugly 2DS." Biggest lie in history. That was easier to hold and use than any other model in the family.

  • @hicknopunk
    @hicknopunk Год назад

    I have had depth correcting (a bit) lenses since the 90s. They also fix my double vision. I can see the 3D on the 3DS so much more than how reality looks it is disconcerting to look at pictures i take with it.

  • @garfled
    @garfled 2 года назад

    Just discovered your channel and I'm obsessed

  • @Mr_NB628
    @Mr_NB628 Год назад +1

    Additionally, baseball would only be hard if you are not used to the effect of only having one eye. Just like anything else if you were an eyepatch for a long amount of time, your body would adjust, and you would rapidly regain the skill of hitting a baseball for instance

  • @skylark.kraken
    @skylark.kraken 2 года назад

    Brother got diagnosed with amblyopia through getting a 3DS, he was getting frustrated that he couldn't really see the 3D effect but when we had a go to see how bad it was it was perfectly fine for us. The optometrist was aware of 3DS being used as a diagnostic tool and was able to go straight to the issue.
    Also I have to say that I am a huge 3D fan, the only time I ever turn off the 3D is to refresh the 3D effect because I just get really used to it. I've actually not played one of the pokemons because while the game was 3D it was not stereoscopic and I just don't want to play a game on my 3DS that isn't stereoscopic 3D. I've never experienced any eye strain or any other negative effects (I am someone who is able to view magic eye books immediately so I have fairly atuned eye muscles for looking through objects)