Intense Freight Train Action at Hamburg - Harburg, Germany - 22 Trains in 2 hours! (June 16, 2015)
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- This video is a compilation of all the freight trains seen at Hamburg - Harburg train station from about 9:50am to 11:50am, Tuesday June 16, 2015
Hamburg - Harburg station is located about 10km south-east of downtown Hamburg, Germany and is a major passenger railway station. It is also located between the Port of Hamburg (One of Europe's busiest) and a major rail freight marshalling yard just south of Hamburg - Harburg station making it a hot spot for freight traffic.
Here are the trains that I seen.
1. ES 64 F4-456 Intermodal train
2. DB 185 342-3 Container train
3/4. MRCE 145 086-5 Tanks / DB Railion 296 037-5 and 363 622-2 Switchers
5. DB Double header mix freight
6/7. DB 185 205-2 Container train / 185 563-4 Light engine
8. 145-CL 015 Tank train
9/10. Railpool 185 717-6 Container / DB 185 236-7 Container
11. DB 185 009-8 Tank train
12. DB 145 051-9 Hopper train
13. DB 185 330-5 Mix freight train
14/15. DB 140 843-4 & 140 658-2 Hopper train / DB Container
16. DB 151 001-5 Hopper train
17. Chem Oil 482 012-2 Container train
18. LOCON E 189-820 Container train
19. DB 185 183-1 Gondola freight train
20. DB 185 342-3 Container train
21. DB 261 099-6 Yard switcher
22. DB 152 142-6 Container train
Filmed at Hamburg - Harburg train station
Camera: Canon VIXIA HF R500
Irgendwie finde ich Güterzüge total entspannend. Ich liebe es am Banhof zu sitzen und die Züge vorbei rauschen zu sehen.
It's fascinating to see the use of two axle flat cars and buffers and hook and link couplers. It's at least fifty years since anything like that was seen here in Australia. The trains there are mostly quite short but very frequent. Ours tend to be quite long (up to about 2 kilometres) but less frequent. Nice video by the way.
Crosshead1 it's not in Australia it's in Germany
Crosshead1 In my opinion it's because the cargo network is often on the passenger network aswell. Passenger tranis have first preority and if theres a cargo train up to 2km there might be problems for passenger tranis to pass them. (the video looks like it's filmed from a passenger station)
Overall Australian, US, Canadian heavy freight railways shine because of their over all cost efficiency and it all boils back to scale of efficiency and traffic priority. Our trains always have priority over passenger trains and they can deliver all their cargo faster than any truck or road train because freight trains will never stop on a single cargo run. European heavy freight railways are severely hamstrung by yielding to passenger trains and this forces them to have shorter less cost efficient freight trains. The worst part is how many trucks they could be taking off their highway system if they were allowed to operate trains as we do in America. America may be behind on a lot of things but heavy freight railways is were we are way ahead of the game. Canada and US are especially blessed with outstanding cost efficient and very green railways per ton of cargo moved. The Canadian National Railways routinely moves hundreds of thousands of bulk cars every week for just 50 cents per ton per 2000 miles and they are looking at slashing this cost down to 45 cents per ton per 2000 miles. No railway except for UP or Burlington Northern can do that kind of cost efficiency.
Several reasons. Europe still has a lot of technical and cultural differences internally, so any change requires consent, making it difficult. A better coupler is fully developed, most freight wagons are prepared for them, it is even better as it also couples brake lines automatically. Compatibility with the current couplers and the Russian SA-3 is given. But when it was time to start the changeover 30(?) years ago some countries didn't have the resources, others had Not-invented-here syndrome. Other reasons are geographical: destinations all over the area, not just along the coast. Shorter distances between major centres. Sidings are just not long enough (750m is wished for), the design is from the steam era. And then there was WWII, setting development back several decades.
considering freight, they do get the short end of the stick at day time. That changes at night, because freights get priority. Then the freights even use the highspeed-corridors and any left passenger train has to follow.
Automatic couplers are fully developed, but the passenger trains don't use them, because of play between the couplers. Hook and link are a lot cheaper and they can be tightened down very well, which is good for smooth passenger trains. Also I dont know how load automatik couplers would work for freight shunting, since buffers are a lot gentler to impacts than stiff automatics (wonder if there is a solution to this if a change should ever occur).
then there is the plan of the german railway to replace all passenger trains with motor-car-trains (this would mean a lot of automatik scharfenberg couplers, which are no easily compatible the to buffers, hook and link system, they need an adapter)
I never realized just how small euro style trains were till watching this video. Here in the US we double stack intermodal shipping containers typically, and even the single stack containers were drawing the size of the locos in this video. Pretty cool they can haul as much as they do with so little weight. Very interesting.
I will say I am a little jealous of how short your trains are. In the US if you get caught by train, you're always waiting 5-10 minutes at the gate crossing, even if the train is running quickly.
Well I live on Greece but I always loved us railways especially your freight locos I would love to see one cause as I know they are pretty huge in comparison to eu trains❤️
Freight trains in Europe are shorter, but run much faster than in America. This is because they share tracks with scheduled passenger services and must fit in available slots. Another difference is that the European rail network is almost fully electrified. So freight trains generally use electric locomotives.
NSDflug There’s different needs in USA and Europe, that’s why trains are so different. You would probably be surprised at seeing freight trains flying non stop through regular rail stations using powerful electric locomotives as if they were expresses. Even crossing cities using existing underground infrastructure that is shared with high frequency commuter trains. I don’t think you have such kind of thing in the USA, and this explains why EU freight trains are the way they are.
@@lsfornells I mean I only wish for shorter trains when I am in a hurry! 🤣 When I am train watching however (and in the Illinois countryside there are MANY beautiful places to do so!), I truly appreciate American style Heavy Rail. Here's one of my favorite videos from Tehachapi area I think of a BNSF intermodal train spooling up. Turn speakers up!!! 😃
ruclips.net/video/QJzMhlUnMQk/видео.html
NSDflug Also note that electric locomotives used for freight trains in Europe are typically more powerful than single US diesel locomotives, specially for its size, usually in excess of 7500 HP, to account for the higher speed requirements (about 140 km/h) of the shared European freight network.
the intermodals are my favorite
Driving a cargo train is my dream job!!!
The Trains are mostly running from Hamburg Harbour Area and from the North European Area down to the Maschen Marshalling Yard (Lower Saxony) . Maschen is the 2. Biggest of the World ! Code: Maschen Rbf. But the Tracks are also used for Person Transport. The Mainline from Cuxhaven to Hamburg leads also over Harburg ,beside the not visible S-Train S-Trains are running here underground,but in some area they also also use the same track with 2 differnt Power Systems. (Hamburg 1200 Volts DC and for the Track to Stade overhead 15 KV AC). Also some Long-Distance Trains from and to Hamburg are stopping at Harburg.
I have been visiting Hamburg for over 40 years to see relatives on my mothers side and alway took the time to do some train watching. One of my favorite places was the postal facility (no longer served by rail) at Diebsteig. In the early 80's I could watch the 360 class locos shunting wagons there for hours from the footbridge. My Tante/Aunt would get me a monadskarte to ride the HVV S/U Bahn all over, to the farthest ends of the system. Freight operations have always been a mystery, and difficult to access. Where in these videos are the best stations to view the freight trains seen here?
At least Germans can haul freight better than the UK
Wow and you can actually model all the trains using marklin Z & Ho Scales. that includes the overhead wires too
Excellent footage! Do switch / point indicators still exist on German railways?
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Unfortunately, the Class E 40 (as seen at 13:00) is out of service since 2016.
espacemarmotte looks like a soviet train
@@Thomas.harding but its german build
But still at use by some private fright railways
sehr gut video, danke- very good video, thank you!
Good stuff.
I'll bet Shiey is on one of these trains! ;)
only one of them was suitable for train hopping
Great footage!!!!
No double stacks? why more electric power unit in Europe than in the USA? What was in the wagons at time stamp 13:17; the whole train had the same type of wagons? why do most of the train I have seen in Europe And Russia had those two buffer things on each end of the wagons and power units? Thanks for an outstanding video of trains. (Mississippi gulf coast, USA)
No Doubles stacks beacause of overhead wire and loading gauge. Has somtimes more POWER than you Diesels.coal wagons.the couplers we use Hook couplers. these are to soften it when the train drives onto the Cars to couple
Its coal
All of the German rail network is electrified, so its much cheaper to run electric locomotives.
Cool video, but next time the whole trains pls ;)
Schönes Video!!
The Locomotives of Europe are different physically. Here in the Americas they are bigger.
Electric locomotives. A lot more power at smaller size.
@@jonny2954 👍🏻
Yep and America is ineffizient
Nice video
3rd train is 1st tanker rain
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Germany has all ways been ahead of the times and electric freight just shows that it is
Ever heard of a gevo
@@pooper12 yes do you realize it still needs fossil fuel
@phillyslasher You do realize American locomotives are diesel-electric right? They have electric traction but they have to generate the power for that traction onboard. That's why they're so big and heavy, electric locomotives get their power from the overhead catenaries, diesel-electrics have to store all that engergy in the form of massive amounts of diesel onboard along with some pretty massive generators. If you want a higher tractive effort on European locomotives, it's a matter of changing gearing, not the power source. But of course higher tractive effort at lower speeds also means sacrificing max speed, which is not very attractive in an environment where you're on a tight schedule on crowded tracks.
As for you point on electrifying large amounts of track, EU track length is about 217,000 km. Even Russia, a much poorer and even more sparsely populated country, has electrified more than half of its 128,000 km of railways.
I think a more likely explanation for the lack of electrification in the US is who owns the railways. European railways are state owned and the state can have a longer-term perspectives on investments also taking into account the public good and long-term economic benefits for the entire society, whereas US railways are privately owned and if electrification does not pay off economically for that specific corporation within the next few years they want none of it. If the US federal government had invested in railways in the same way they invested in their highway system, I think we would see a very different situation over there.
why front panto up
WestCoastSuperFast Seveal reasons:
- some locos have different pantos for various countries. AC or DC, wide or narrow zig-zag. So no choice.
- Electrical arcs sometimes spray molten stuff around. So pantos directly in front of delicate things are avoided (windscreen of other locos, new cars). Same with flammable loads.
sometimes it's a hazmat thing
The one at 6:00 reminds me of a rainbow
Do the Germans use the diesel electric like in North America and Canada
jj waters yes they do,Even pappu can be seen at 3:24
Yes when tracks arent elwctrified there are Diesel electric locos like the class 245 or the much or the old class 232
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The noise is so screemy.. it reminds about world war 2
See North Americans electric cargo rail is possible.
Nah
I think conrail & penn central running freight at northeast corridor using electric locomotive back then in 60s & 70s
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