People must have been different back then--who today would look at a bridge that bucked and twisted in the wind like that and think, "I think I'm going to drive over that."
+Minodora4 To Koyo Kim and Raluca Ifrim: As a father of five, I just wanted to give EXTREMELY belated congrats to the two (then) 8th graders who put this documentary together. You two did an OUTSTANDING job, especially given the AV editing programs of the day in 2008/2009! The script was interesting without being too broad, the editing was smooth and complimentary to the script, and the soundtrack selections were an excellent foundation without being distracting. Pretty damn impressive, if you ask me. And if the biggest thing people can bitch about is popping the Ps (which is so common in audio recording it's pathetic), then you know you've done a remarkable job. I hope that these two young people, who I'm guessing are now in college or have recently graduated, are just beginning fulfilling careers - and a richly satisfying adulthood overall ;) One more thing: once you've reached that point in your adulthood where you have kids of your own, make sure to show them this. They'll get a kick out of it, and secretly they'll be intimidated as hell because they have a pretty high bar to live up to. :D
This was VERY well done. My 16yo DD has known this story from her youth because I had been introduced to it in mine. I couldn't have explained it better or shown her the films as you have. THANK YOU.
I wish the name of the man who designed the second Tacoma Narrows Bridge, or Sturdy Gertie, was mentioned. His name was Dexter Smith and he was an engineering genius. He knew Galloping Gertie was going to collapse before it was even opened. He made sure future suspension bridges would be safe.
Very good and in light of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, this is a reminder of how a tragedy like this can happen as the bridge design in Minneapolis had its detractors as well who were ignored. You did an excellent job and whoever got first must really have been impressive to have topped you on this one...I hope you're considering a career in news as you're very good at reporting.
Excellent job making the documentary. As for the thin bridge design- that was just following along a trend that existed for bridges opened in the thirties. The single deck GWB in NYC didn't have a truss originally, the Bronx Whitestone didn't either. The Tacoma bridge could have survived if it had appropriate cable stays and openings in the side girders to let the wind go through.
Actually the people who got first were from the same school as us, and yes they were very good and it was quite close. Theirs is on the "Great Seattle Fire." This was a group project although we only had one narrator; my partner and I split the work. She did a lot of the actual piecing together of the documentary.
Still, this came out excellent. Someone above spoke about hitting the P in the audio but I think this lends more to it sounding more human rather than as someone being paid with years of training. It was very well crafted and your entire team deserves praise. The person narrating was both clear and very professional sounding...you all get a thumbs up from me and hope you do more projects as this country needs more history lessons as entertaining and well crafted as this.
@laserpablo Thanks for putting out that explanation, better to know that the owner at least tried to save his dog. and that others cared enough to try too.
The bridge connects the Kitsap Peninsula with the Tacoma area. It mostly benefited the towns just on the other side of the bridge. I have never heard someone call the older of the two current Narrows bridges Sturdy Gertie either, probably a long forgotten nickname dating from just after it was built.
It's scaring me how that I've been over the bridge that was built over that bridge. It really scares me now, knowing about the dog and everyone else, laying in the water, WAITING. I'm actually shaking right now. I never want to go over that bridge ever again....
Several attempts were made by two people to save the dog. The dog became frightened and would not come out of the car. Attempts to drag the dog out of the car resulting the owner getting bit. Finally, he did get the dog out of the car but the dog broke loose and ran back into the car.
I honestly cannot understand why the engineers concerned did not realise that with the vertical suspension of cables from the Catenary curve of the two main cables THEY LEFT TRIANGULAR STRUCTURES in the system and rectangles can change their shape along their diagonals. What is shown at 2:11 where the bounce due to the distortion of the rectangles on either side was in phase then both extreeme edges of the deck oscillated in synchronism without tilting or inclination of the main deck. At this stage any engineer would have concluded that those rectangles in the suspended cables forming those rectangles could oscillate at a different phase as the catenary curved main cables were flexible DUE TO THE RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE or the vertical suspended tensioned cables holding the main deck. If when they saw what one sees at 2:29 they got a few cables and tied DIAGONALS across those rectangles to form triangles or better still to get longer cables and tie the bridge through longer diagonals starting at the top or along the pylon height to points on the deck, then THE TRIANGULAR STRUCTURE OF THE CABLES WOULD HAVE DAMPED THAT OSCILLATION and the bridge would have been saved. I just cannot believe that the structural engineers in 1935 missed that point and left that bridge suspended with a rectangular structure which could change the length of its diagonals and support the vibrations of the fundamental or the harmonics of the length of the deck. Triangles would have saved the day as TRIANGLES IN A STRUCTURE CANNOT CHANGE ITS SHAPE........... RECTANGLES AND SQUARES CAN. That was the main reason for the oscillation of that bridge and its downfall! Pity great pity and those who designed it should feel very humiliated as they simply did not understand the misgiving of a rectangular structure. Pity a great Pity and a bit of a blow to the reputation of some American engineers and contractors.
Note that the bridge shown in this video suffers from exactly the same ailment as the Tacoma narrow bridge and if the rectangles were changed in to triangles through adding diagonals or longer cables from the main pylon to the deck then those harmonic oscillation would damp down . ruclips.net/video/uWoiMMLIvco/видео.html
The massive collapse of a public structure is in no way positive. To portray it as such is remarkably irresponsible. I have noted similar American delusion all over the internet. The last one almost made me choke - the Sherman tank being portrayed as superior to German tanks. This is a nation in massive denial. It would be wise to get over it soon.
ktate51...I appreciate your response. I learned (with my foolish comments) that it's best to think twice before posting anything. I should have known better. Upon learning just a little more about the narrator and producers of the video, I was even more ashamed of my original comments and even more respectful of their efforts.
In one video of the whole incident happening, The man made the dog run out of the car and then a few minutes later, He ran out. But you said that he left him in the car.
Hello, I am writing to follow up on my message on September 13th with regards to using your video "Galloping Gertie: The Collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge" Have you had a chance to review the usage details? Do we have your permission to use your video? Happy to speak about this further if required. Kindest Regards, Kevin
Engineers are more important than any other profession...there are many important trades, but could the planet feed 6 billion people without engineering brilliance? Yes mistakes happen...but let's face it, you owe your life to us.
On the chance that this channel is still monitored, I am writing to request permission to use your video in a secondary school course in Ontario, Canada - if possible please reply to rhall[at]tvo.org so we can connect on the details. Thank you!
R.I.P. Tubby. You will never be forgotten.
People must have been different back then--who today would look at a bridge that bucked and twisted in the wind like that and think, "I think I'm going to drive over that."
THE DOG WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE THE DOG
+Minodora4
To Koyo Kim and Raluca Ifrim:
As a father of five, I just wanted to give EXTREMELY belated congrats to the two (then) 8th graders who put this documentary together. You two did an OUTSTANDING job, especially given the AV editing programs of the day in 2008/2009! The script was interesting without being too broad, the editing was smooth and complimentary to the script, and the soundtrack selections were an excellent foundation without being distracting. Pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.
And if the biggest thing people can bitch about is popping the Ps (which is so common in audio recording it's pathetic), then you know you've done a remarkable job.
I hope that these two young people, who I'm guessing are now in college or have recently graduated, are just beginning fulfilling careers - and a richly satisfying adulthood overall ;)
One more thing: once you've reached that point in your adulthood where you have kids of your own, make sure to show them this. They'll get a kick out of it, and secretly they'll be intimidated as hell because they have a pretty high bar to live up to. :D
Excellent documentary. Succinct language is a rarity these days and you did that very well.
This was VERY well done. My 16yo DD has known this story from her youth because I had been introduced to it in mine. I couldn't have explained it better or shown her the films as you have. THANK YOU.
This video gives an incredible insight into one of the most memorable collapses in bridge history.
Your video is excellent! I show it in my middle school engineering class in Massachusetts & the kids are always amazed by it. Great job!
I wish the name of the man who designed the second Tacoma Narrows Bridge, or Sturdy Gertie, was mentioned. His name was Dexter Smith and he was an engineering genius. He knew Galloping Gertie was going to collapse before it was even opened. He made sure future suspension bridges would be safe.
GREAT work on this documentary ! Excellent use of documents and archival footage. Thank you !
Absolutely fantastic job doing this documentary!
Great documentary that gives the basics to the uninformed.
Very good and in light of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, this is a reminder of how a tragedy like this can happen as the bridge design in Minneapolis had its detractors as well who were ignored. You did an excellent job and whoever got first must really have been impressive to have topped you on this one...I hope you're considering a career in news as you're very good at reporting.
Poor doggy :'(
Excellent job making the documentary.
As for the thin bridge design- that was just following along a trend that existed for bridges opened in the thirties. The single deck GWB in NYC didn't have a truss originally, the Bronx Whitestone didn't either. The Tacoma bridge could have survived if it had appropriate cable stays and openings in the side girders to let the wind go through.
Excellent. My kids were even able to understand.
Actually the people who got first were from the same school as us, and yes they were very good and it was quite close. Theirs is on the "Great Seattle Fire."
This was a group project although we only had one narrator; my partner and I split the work. She did a lot of the actual piecing together of the documentary.
You guys were amazing to put this together!
The theory to why the bridge collapsed in this video is wrong. The bridge collapse due to aeroelastic flutter, not because of harmonic resonance!
Still, this came out excellent. Someone above spoke about hitting the P in the audio but I think this lends more to it sounding more human rather than as someone being paid with years of training. It was very well crafted and your entire team deserves praise. The person narrating was both clear and very professional sounding...you all get a thumbs up from me and hope you do more projects as this country needs more history lessons as entertaining and well crafted as this.
Well done. I show this video to my physics class as an introduction to their bridge project.
very good doc.
@laserpablo Thanks for putting out that explanation, better to know that the owner at least tried to save his dog. and that others cared enough to try too.
The bridge connects the Kitsap Peninsula with the Tacoma area. It mostly benefited the towns just on the other side of the bridge.
I have never heard someone call the older of the two current Narrows bridges Sturdy Gertie either, probably a long forgotten nickname dating from just after it was built.
@itomas We made this video in 8th grade, so yes, young student :)
Very impressive
awesome job in providing facts and keeping light and fun .. kudos
It's scaring me how that I've been over the bridge that was built over that bridge. It really scares me now, knowing about the dog and everyone else, laying in the water, WAITING.
I'm actually shaking right now. I never want to go over that bridge ever again....
It wasn't rebuilt over quite the same spot.
Several attempts were made by two people to save the dog. The dog became frightened and would not come out of the car. Attempts to drag the dog out of the car resulting the owner getting bit. Finally, he did get the dog out of the car but the dog broke loose and ran back into the car.
Excellent job. You should have gotten first place.
This is a wonderful documentary!
I honestly cannot understand why the engineers concerned did not realise that with the vertical suspension of cables from the Catenary curve of the two main cables THEY LEFT TRIANGULAR STRUCTURES in the system and rectangles can change their shape along their diagonals. What is shown at 2:11 where the bounce due to the distortion of the rectangles on either side was in phase then both extreeme edges of the deck oscillated in synchronism without tilting or inclination of the main deck. At this stage any engineer would have concluded that those rectangles in the suspended cables forming those rectangles could oscillate at a different phase as the catenary curved main cables were flexible DUE TO THE RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE or the vertical suspended tensioned cables holding the main deck.
If when they saw what one sees at 2:29 they got a few cables and tied DIAGONALS across those rectangles to form triangles or better still to get longer cables and tie the bridge through longer diagonals starting at the top or along the pylon height to points on the deck, then THE TRIANGULAR STRUCTURE OF THE CABLES WOULD HAVE DAMPED THAT OSCILLATION and the bridge would have been saved.
I just cannot believe that the structural engineers in 1935 missed that point and left that bridge suspended with a rectangular structure which could change the length of its diagonals and support the vibrations of the fundamental or the harmonics of the length of the deck. Triangles would have saved the day as TRIANGLES IN A STRUCTURE CANNOT CHANGE ITS SHAPE........... RECTANGLES AND SQUARES CAN. That was the main reason for the oscillation of that bridge and its downfall! Pity great pity and those who designed it should feel very humiliated as they simply did not understand the misgiving of a rectangular structure. Pity a great Pity and a bit of a blow to the reputation of some American engineers and contractors.
Note that the bridge shown in this video suffers from exactly the same ailment as the Tacoma narrow bridge and if the rectangles were changed in to triangles through adding diagonals or longer cables from the main pylon to the deck then those harmonic oscillation would damp down .
ruclips.net/video/uWoiMMLIvco/видео.html
How can it be a tragedy when nobody died?
Great video. Lots of good information.
This is a great documentary.
Great video. Good job!
some people tried but the dog was terrified and tried to bite them
This is the first time that i learned something on youtube. Wow, well done.
No was 2 years old. I have seen the film before
Thank you. I always wanted to know what happened to this bridge.
The massive collapse of a public structure is in no way positive. To portray it as such is remarkably irresponsible.
I have noted similar American delusion all over the internet. The last one almost made me choke - the Sherman tank being portrayed as superior to German tanks. This is a nation in massive denial. It would be wise to get over it soon.
We learn from failure. That's the positive. For Christ's sake, Edwin. Settle down, it's nothing to choke about.
ktate51...I appreciate your response. I learned (with my foolish comments) that it's best to think twice before posting anything. I should have known better. Upon learning just a little more about the narrator and producers of the video, I was even more ashamed of my original comments and even more respectful of their efforts.
I just watched another video on this that showed that engineer going out to that car and rescued the dog :(
thats all i was worried about...the dog!
I heard they tried to rescue the dog but it was too scared and bit everyone who tried
In one video of the whole incident happening, The man made the dog run out of the car and then a few minutes later, He ran out. But you said that he left him in the car.
Funny voice, but I like it. :) And nice documentary.
dang, 2007
This is amazing its like physics
I would have liked the old bridge if it was a little safer...
I think TUBBY was the last PERSON....POOR TUBBY.
why did he leave his dog? that literally makes no sense.
The dog refused to leave
@Minodora4 And you did a wonderful job!
Hello,
I am writing to follow up on my message on September 13th with regards to using your video "Galloping Gertie: The Collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge"
Have you had a chance to review the usage details? Do we have your permission to use your video?
Happy to speak about this further if required.
Kindest Regards,
Kevin
Engineers are more important than any other profession...there are many important trades, but could the planet feed 6 billion people without engineering brilliance? Yes mistakes happen...but let's face it, you owe your life to us.
Farmers. Without farmers no food = death. Farming was done locally, no engineering needed…
On the chance that this channel is still monitored, I am writing to request permission to use your video in a secondary school course in Ontario, Canada - if possible please reply to rhall[at]tvo.org so we can connect on the details. Thank you!
THE DOG
4 years befor my mom was born
You might get first if you correct your grammar. They were from the same school as we were, not us.
Poor tuby
yes a bouncing bridge VERY safe yes isn't it!!
0:27
"Never had a suspension bridge so important _______ so catastrophically"
What's the word in the blank? I can't hear it properly. Any help? :)
Met its end
What's the song at 3:00 ?
@Minodora4
Sorry for the negative comments. I don't know what came over me.
NO, TUBBY, WHYYYYY?! :'(
'spared no expense' sounds like the guy from jurassic park.
ruclips.net/video/ASd0t3n8Bnc/видео.html
@Buff78 Buff, I thought I had already apologized for my ill-conceived comments. (Maybe I only sent the apology directly to the narrator.)
I bet this response was typed before you even research anything and just wanted to mke someone look bad
@dddproject
People not willing to die for a dog.
The narrator's voice and how they talk really really annoys me
ktate51...I have already apologized for my insensitive, negative comments.
Answer is fucking 9
poor dog. :(
@heydanno777 that basterd left the dog :( .
Angelo 7c
Areoelastic flutter is why the bridge collapsed. It had nothing to do with resonance or vortexes. Yet another bad documentary.