I'm a full odds hunter, but we all love a good masuda method hunt now and then (Got my Phione that way). Personally, the shinies I find via fullodds are much more fulfilling. With the ridiculous encounter rates for Sun and Moon Pokemon, I have a feeling full odds hunters are going to have to phase and phase until the 5% Pokemon show up. Each to their own.
Thumbs up indeed, and thank you, honestly. As someone who prefers to method hunt but really respects the hell out of people like you who hunt full odds, I admit that I was worried that this would wind up being a video that bashes people who do that sort of thing, that we're taking the ~easy~ way out and aren't real hunters. So thank you, dude, and best of luck on your hunts. /salutes
Saw this video retweeted in my Twitter feed. I'm a casual Pokemon player, and I really appreciate this approach. I think the new methods kind of devalue the thrill of finding a Shiny naturally. No hate to anybody who uses the newer methods, but I really like finding them the good old fashioned way! Great video! :)
TheSupremeRk9s I'd like to disagree only really three methods increase odds as it goes which is pokeradar,dexnav and chain fishing. so the other methods stays the same while the do increase the odds and yes the shiny charm also helps but the odds don't change unless you get the charm or use the odd increasing method hunts. but I think full odds are great and I think method hunting is great but I don't judge sorry if this makes no sense but I'm just ranting.
"Someone's gotta tell them!" I actually laughed out loud haha but yeah this video is 100% my thoughts too man, so glad you made a video for it so I can just link people when they ask instead of going on a half hour explanation xD
This is an incredible video, very well said! It's just not right that us full odds hunters have some sort of bad reputation for judging the way others hunt when most of the time it's the other way around. I do think method hunting is stupid easy but it's the methods I dislike, not the people who use them. Everyone has their own preferences and that's perfectly fine. I really hope this video will help both full odds and method hunters grow up and realize that people can shiny hunt the way they want, and that it's fine to have a different preference than other people. I know I definitely took shiny hunting way too seriously in the past, but even then I thought it was just dumb and pointless to harass someone over the way they shiny hunt because in the end it's just a hobby, and the most important thing is to have fun.
+YourFriedBread Personally, I'm more for Soft resetting and SOS hunting in SM and USUM, but outside of those two methods my luck is garbage, so any other methods like hatching eggs or just random encounters[Or the super complicated chaining methods, that I tend to avoid, even if the odds are crazy good after a while] scare me more than they probably should.
DUDE you NAILED this!!!!!!!!!! This is the video I'll always share in the future now when addressed with a question about this; I can't really disagree with ANYTHING you said.
I completely understand. I love both ways, but after going 5 days for an Oricorio and only just finally getting it, I really started shouting and screaming in happiness...
Dude I'm 30 seconds into this video and already feel the need to thank you for explaining this way of going about shiny hunting. Love being a part of the full odds "community" (as you say it's all just one)! Def gotta support both methoders and full odds like us alike! Nothing like positivity :) Good luck on your hunts everyone!
I love this video, thanks for making it :) Sometimes I feel like because I do method hunting like SOS that people look down on me and think they're better, but I've learnt to ignore them and just have fun now. Good luck on all your hunts guys!
Can't believe I'm still hunting back when I found your Kyogre video and remembered about shines. Crazy that it's been almost 10 years from my first shiny and now I have a good bit more from you. Great video man, have fun on your videos and hunts!
I was fishing for a pokemon and found a shiny instead. I obviously freaked out but then I realised it was chain fishing. I still always get excited no matter method or full ods. (Although im not a patient full odds shiny hunter)
I can confirm Araquanid can be found in the wild... In fact, until post game I didn't even realise it evolved from anything because I had encountered several wild Araquanid but not one wild Dewpider :P
I’m just watching this, and oh my god, you explained it so perfectly. I prefer random encounters and soft resetting to any other method, and you pretty much hit all of my points as to why I prefer full odds.
Thanks so much for this video, Dallas. Been waiting for it for a long time and you addressed just about every point I ever would have (and more). No hunter should feel inferior just because they hunt a certain way, while others hunt a different way. I think a lot of method hunters would be surprised to hear that even amongst full-odds hunters there are those who believe one type of full-odds is better(!?) than another! You can never truly hold up to any perfect standard when it comes to shiny hunting. All you can do is focus on what you love and what makes you happy. That's really what hunting is all about, and that's why the "full odds huners think they're better" mindset is such utter garbage. It's just about the journey and the adrenaline rush, whether it comes super fast or it takes forever, and this is a message that absolutely needed to be put out there. Shiny hunting is shiny hunting. Like you my sister and I have made so many friends just because of it (you included), and we wouldn't give that up for anything! Thanks for addressing this in such a well made video. Love you.
Preach! I really got into shiny hunting when x and y came out. After countless reduced odds shiny I tried full odds. It is now my preferred way to shiny hunt. 100% agree with everything you said. Good luck on your hunts everyone.
I still remember when I first started shiny hunting. My first two shinies were both method hunted and my reaction was more of an "Oh!" rather than a "Holy Shit!" which is probably an understatement when describing my first hunted full odds shiny xD
Seriously, couldn't agree with you more Dallas. Thank you for making this. I started out with Masuda method so I will always have a soft spot for it, but people like you were what inspired me try full odds hunting more. And here I am, nearly 2 years later, and don't see myself turning back. o/ But as someone that made that jump, starting out full odds can seem super intimidating. I can completely understand others that don't want to do it or don't understand it. It can be rough sometimes! But that's what makes it fun, least in my opinion and other like minded people. But at the end of the day, a shiny is a shiny.
I love your content so much, your channel is the main reason why I've decided to start shiny hunting legendaries, my friends could not believe it was even possible until I showed them that shiny Ho-oh that I caught on ORAS. Thanks for all the inspiration.
i know this video is a little old, but i wanted to say something. randomly one day i just wanted to hunt full odds and i had no idea why, i thought it would be fun to try it out. now i do full odds hunting a lot and might even prefer it. i still method hunt and dont undermine method hunters, but Dallas, you and many others have inspired me to try it out so i wanted to say thank you :)
I've been thinking of expanding my channel past just shinies, and wanted this topic as my first new topic. Probably won't now, this video has literally every point I had in my script and more, haha. Good video my man, best of luck on the rest of your hunts! What are you going to go for next?
Shiny Hunter Hunter don't let my video discourage you from doing the same! It's something not too many people are talking about and it's cool to see perspectives! Good luck on your new videos my friend
Dude I totally agree with the whole full odds shiny. My reactions have been way cooler when I don't know what I'm getting. Plus I'm new to the whole method hunting. I do like method hunting if you're looking for one Pokémon in general but I like "full odds" if you just want a shiny. I also wanted to say your content rocks and I always love watching. Keep them coming!!
I’ve unintentionally transitioned into being more of a full odds Hunter. I released all of my wormhole shinies because they didn’t mean anything to me, it felt too easy. Even though I have a full-time job, I enjoy not finding shinies too too often, because it’s such a rush when I find one.
I know I'm late to the party, and this comment might never be seen by anyone, but this video hits the nail on the head! I grew up shiny hunting in a time period where methods hunting didn't exist yet! I started shiny hunting with gen 3 before gen 4 even came out. When gen 4 came out and introduced masuda method and chaining, it seemed cool at first, and I'll give chain hunting credit in that it's very strategic, but it just didn't hit the same way full odds hunting does. Method hunting takes away that surprise factor a lot of the time. The only method hunting I can say doesn't really take away from the surprise factor is masuda method, but even then just knowing that it increases the odds, it feels like I'm cheating almost. That's how I personally feel, and I know others might not feel that way. But I prefer full odds hunting cause it feels so much more rewarding! And like you said in the video, part of the fun is the hunt itself knowing that you're trying to hunt something incredibly rare! And when you finally get it, nothing compares to that feeling.
The reason I method hunt: I’m an impatient little frik. I’m fine with doing full odds sometimes because method hunting can take super long sometimes too (looking at you masuda method), but I have a hard time sitting for hours on end trying to find shinies
Randumb333 yeah but the time sometimes to get the shiny egg hatch can take really long, especislly for pokemon with 6000-10,000 steps for the, to hatch
Great video Dallas! :D Full odds is definitely awesome and always be in heart.The thrill of never knowing what you going to get, random encountering wise. I've done method hunts in the past before I went mostly to full odds hunting. I still masuda but not very often. Keep it up the good videos man!
i think like a month ago i was playing black two and i wanted a riolu in my team. then out of no where, i found one and it was shiny! she's now a beautiful lucario named riley (yeah i named it after riley in dppt).
I'm a method and to me the fun of shiny hunting is planning how to hunt specific things in efficient ways. (Movesets, how to get consistent chains, etc.) You don't really get that with full odds, but that part of the charm, not knowing when it's gonna show up and knowing that it was absolute chance. I really have respect for full odds hunters.
Such a needed video tbh. But a great job explaining from both sides Dallas, this is why you're considered one of the best RUclipsrs in my book. #KeepOnDrinkingMilk
Dallas! I know you put this up awhile ago, but I've finally been inspired to shiny hunt in older generations! I have a copy of Pokèmon White and Black, so I'm SR for Snivy and Oshawott and I'm soo excited to see how long the hunt takes and challenging myself with the 1/8000 odds. I've hunted since 6th and well... I've gotten bored of shiny hunting in recent games, like ridiculously so I wanted to see if playing older games would get me back into it. Thank you for explaining Full Odds and why people hunt this way, even though Masuda Method is my favourite way to hunt, RE and SR can be just as fun.
"It's not because they're full odds hunters that they're like that, it's that they're bad people." Lmfao. Dallas, that was the best line ever. Thanks so much for your opinion. I do full and method hunts and I'm just happy to meet others in the community that enjoy shiny hunting and pokemon. But for real, thanks for putting this video out. You're explaining the difference, hopefully clearing up the confusion and bridging some of the gap. ~Flipmander
I agree with everything in the video. No matter if you hunt full odds or methods, at the end of the day we all should enjoy what we do to get our shinies since they all mean something to us all individually. There shouldn't be any conflict since if you really think about we're aiming toward the same goal, it is just that everyone obtains their shiny Pokemon differently and there's no need for discrimination. I'm just going to end that here, remember to hunt what you makes you happy, full odds or methods it doesn't matter as long as you're happy. Have fun with it and good luck with all your hunts everyone ♡
Wow, this is an awesome video man! Keep up the great work! I have to admit, I absolutely love full odds shiny hunting as well. If it wasn't for the one day I randomly found a shiny buizel in pokemon diamond 8 years ago, I would have never probably been a shiny hunter. Also, this video encourages me to shiny hunt even more as well. Thanks for the encouragement of full odds hunting and have an awesome day! :D
Technically it is a mix of both, but a lot of 8192 hunters don't use it since it makes things a lot easier/quicker in a similar way to using a method (:
I think it'd be considered Method. Yeah, each has their 1/4,096 chance, but you're increasing your chances by x6 to find a shiny, since you're encountering 6 Pokemon at once. I think it may not count as method, though, if you're hunting something like Sudowoodo, who can only be found in hoards.
@TheSupremeRK9s I completely agree with your description of the difference between full odds hunters and method hunters. I completely get the desire to not want to spend countless hours going for a shiny when you have many ways to make it easier. Glad to know there are other full odds hunters who dont think they are better than others just because their shinies are harder to find.
You are literally the best ♡♡ I hate certain shiny hunters (not dropping names) that think they're SO DANG SUPERIOR because they only hunt full odds and they hate on any other methods :/ we're all shiny hunters here people! Thanks for this video ♡
SOS for Shiny Mareanie! or for shiny low level Salamence/Dragonite. A lot of SOS is easy but there are some challenges still there. I got a random shiny Chansey from a Riolu SOS and I was actually just going for a regular Lucario.
I bought Pokemon crystal for my 3ds last week and I am in love with full odds shiny hunting already! The only method I could do before was the masuda method but I find full odds hunting really exhilarating! Thanks for introducing it to me!!
It's all about quality not quantity, I prefer a 'legitimate' reaction to shiny hunting rather than forced over-hyped reactions. From looking at other channels only the Full Odds shiny reactions I like, so stick at what makes you happy! Congrats on 75K as well!
You know, Dallas I used to think you were crazy hunting full odds. Until two days ago I caught my first 'full odds' (with shiny charm) shiny Honedge! I'm now going for a Pawniard (NEVERMIND AS IM TYPING THIS I JUST GOT A SHINY SKORUPI)
I have full odds soft resetted for an Absol and an Eevee and it is absolutely amazing when you get the shiny. And when you are in an area with lots of Pokemon and you get the one you want( I wanted Absol and Eevee) the feeling overwhelms you of how amazing it is.
I hunt both full odds and method. I do full odds for lots of the reasons you say, but usually have to take breaks between almost every hunt because it is *repetitive* . Full odds is always the same thing, running around, but as I said, I enjoy it for reasons you listed. I do method because it has so many different ways to improve your odds, it makes a nice mix, so I can play different games or just do different methods to have some extra fun playing the game instead of just sitting there staring and doing repetitive things. Yes, methods get repetitive, but it you alternate its fine. Also, you actually actively engage in the game when method hunting. For example, you have to carefully pay attention to your chain and play the game instead of popping on netflix and running around for forever. (But as I've said, I still love full odds, but it just gets a bit repetitive) The one thing I will never do is the shiny charm. WHAT? Ok, let me explain. I don't care how long it takes to get a shiny, but it means more to me if it takes longer, especially if the odds are less. I only enjoy method hunting because it is fun to do, not because it increases the odds. Which is why I never finished my pokedex since black 2 and white 2. I would get all except one most likely route 1 pokemon to feel it is mostly finished, then make sure to never hunt that pokemon in that game. That is my opinion and oh god this is long. Oh well! Here, take my opinion I know you never asked for.
I used to do full odds hunts, when I was younger and had more time on my hands. Just soft resetting over and over watching your videos hahaha! Now, I can't do that anymore, so I'm more of a method hunter, but no shiny will ever make me as happy and excited than my shiny Groudon in SS. 28 000 soft resets of pure happiness :)
This video made me think of why I started what I thought was the hardest hunt back in the time when HeartGold and SoulSilver were released, I knew that hunting full odds was a challenge, but I wanted something more to prove myself that I was capable of accomplishing anything that I would set as a purpose... It ended up being that the "hardest hunt" started to take time from me that I could spend playing something else, learning or being with the people I care. When I knew it was easier to hunt on new generations I coudn't stop thinking of how people love to get things fast and in an easy way... Hunting for a roamer on 4th generation was a way of proving myself how much I could handle, but when luck vanished, I started to doubt, and wondered if doing it was worth my time, ended up realising that getting shinies faster saves you time for doing something else. In the end I just want to share what this hunt taught me: "Focusing too much on an objective sometimes could limit yourself from enjoying other things in life." Not because I got a rare shiny means that I'm better than anyone, I just want to value the time I spent on it and confirm what you also mentioned, the feeling of getting a full odds shiny doesn't compare to the feeling of a lowered odds shiny. It took me six years to get a roamer shiny latias, and for me, It's worth a lot more than those shiny pokémon I would find using easier methods. I think it's awsome that you are still hunting and growing on this website, greetings from an oldschool shiny hunter.
I am a full odds hunter, but I used to be a methods hunter. I only switched over when I was about to start a Radar chain and found a random shiny Abra. That feeling was probably the best shiny encounter that I remember and I want to re-experience something like that.
Well said Dallas, maybe this will help clear up the hate comments that a lot of us Full Odds hunters are getting. Honestly, I felt like it was getting out of hand. Glad someone did this at last. Method Odds hunters might finally understand why we hunt at Full Odds at least a bit better now :3
#HolyShinx Hey SupreamRK9's has anyone told you that you look just like Michel from MandJTVPokevids? By the way did you see he got a shiny on his second episode of his Pokémon Sun let's play?
I'm mostly a method hunter, but a month or so back I pulled my first 1/8192 shiny, a starter Totodile in VC Crystal. I'm at 6,422 SR's on a shiny Celebi now on the same file. In the past I've given up on method hunts that were taking "too long", but after the time I've sunk into this Celebi, I'm in it for the long haul. Kudos to those who always hunt full odds; I don't think I could ever fully embrace it for myself, but it's nice to get a sense of what it can be like.
I started shiny huntiny when Diamond and pearl were released. Sadly my old games were stolen so I only have sword, Pearl and Crystal to hunt on!! Hunting for Cyndaquil in crystal now
Actually, the odds in Friend Safari are ~1/820 without the Charm and ~1/526 with it. The game generates 5 PIDs instead of 1 when you encounter a Pokémon, and 2 others when you have the Charm.
Thanks! I trust that, I'm not sure where the number 1/512 came from exactly I just know all the hunters I've seen use it when they talk about friend safari!
The thing is : nobody knows. In fact, this number would exist (in theory) if and only if 8 PIDs would be generated, because 1/512 aproximately equals 1/(1-(4095/4096)^8) which is how probabilities are calculated with the binomial law. So I think this confusion comes from the fact that the people who thought this was the probability came up with a number that fit their average, in term of encoounters before getting a shiny. But nobody had looked into the game's code, that's why last year, MrNbaYoh on Twitter found the need to look what was really written down there. And that was his discovery.
i wholeheartedly agree w this vid! a shiny hunter is a shiny hunter, no matter what way they hunt! i usually do method hunting, but i enjoy me a full odds hunt every once in a while (mostly the case for legends, haha)
TheSupremeRk9s you got me into full odds hunting, I did a test run with the shiny charm in sun, got a shiny lycanroc midnight and now I'm onto the second phase of my first true full odds hunt in black version, I'm hunting shiny sewaddle but i got a shiny audino less than 20 encounters in! thank you!!
Are you Newtiteuf's/Julien's boyfriend ? Because he did a video where he showed us his guy type and that was like your copy (sorry for english i'm bad tho x))
Silver Not sure because Newtiteuf didn't tell us who is it so maube did he say to Dallas not to tell it too (and the sims' name NT made started with D too)
I prefer watching full odds shiny hunts over method hunting for all the reasons you mentioned. It makes getting a shiny - and seeing someone get a full odds shiny - all the more exciting. :D
shiny hunters are more patient than monks. Extremely inspirational to tell kids keep trying coz theres always a chance u get what u want.Thx Supreme RK9s.👍
My objective is to find the entire shinydex and i am like in the 1/3 of the path. That involves full odds soft resets and some random full odds so i like to refer to me like a pseudo full odds hunter. Great video!
Very well put! I'm a full odds hunter and although I haven't been able to hunt in a long time, this makes me want to sit down with my fire red and leaf green and get some shinies again! Nice video!
I personally used or well I'm still a full odds hunter but not a lot like back then when there was no methods hunting. I love using methods to hunt for shinies faster but I also enjoy getting full odds shinies every often, in my opinion they're both exciting to find a shiny although in some your adventure may extend a bit longer, using either method we use, shiny hunters is what we are and nothing won't change that, pokemon is what we love and a community we are. Good luck on your shiny hunts whatever you hunt guys and girls! n.n
raichu sama c'est plus du doute la, le mec a la MEME casquette ( ; quel dommage ptn il a de la chance NT si c'est lui parce que le mec c'est un canon😍😍
ahh TheSupremeRk9s you got me into full odds hunting, I did a test run with the shiny charm in sun, got a shiny lycanroc midnight and now I'm onto the seconds phase of my first true full odds hunt in black version, I'm hunting shiny sewaddle but i got a shiny audino less than 20 encounters in! thank you!!
Thank you for making this video! I love doing full odds, but people don't understand. I love your videos so much. You and the Shiny Twins have inspired me to make RUclips videos too! When I find this shuny Oshawott (soft resets in White) I'm gonna post it on my channel! Thanks so much for inspiring me!
I got my full odds shiny venipede in the first phase some days ago in white 2, which was my target. Never had such an awesome feeling. So much cooler than the Lge/p hunts I did before. Not that I don't love my 30+ shinies(which took as long as the venipede)in these games but the feeling when getting a full odds shiny is so different. Full odds hunting is a lot more awesome than I thought.
What's more fun than finding a Full Odds Shiny? Finding a Full Odds Shiny while you're not even hunting.
Finding a full odds shiny when you're not even hunting...
And it's a farfetch'd... 😔
Discorded Spectrum I've had 3 Truly Full Odds Shinies: Magnemite in Soul Silver, and Vespiquen & Ditto in Black 2
UB-06 Austin I got a shiny Rimbombee randomly... but I hate fairy types, but its still a shiny
Discorded Spectrum I found a full odds shiny while not even hunting...
it was Magikarp -.-
got a deerling in black that way. it was the most exciting shiny I got.
I'm a full odds hunter, but we all love a good masuda method hunt now and then (Got my Phione that way).
Personally, the shinies I find via fullodds are much more fulfilling. With the ridiculous encounter rates for Sun and Moon Pokemon, I have a feeling full odds hunters are going to have to phase and phase until the 5% Pokemon show up. Each to their own.
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Oh my God Willow I actually snort laughed.
Sonikkts yo Steve! Funny seeing you here xD
ive spent days masuda methoding and ive never gotten a shiny by myself lol
I'm on phase 3 now, everything has such low encounter rates in this game
Thumbs up for shiny hunting regardless of the methods used!!
Also hi ily
TheSupremeRk9s YOUR AN AWESOME SHINY HUNTER
TheSupremeRk9s ly2❤
TheSupremeRk9s May the shiny pokemon be with you.
Thumbs up indeed, and thank you, honestly. As someone who prefers to method hunt but really respects the hell out of people like you who hunt full odds, I admit that I was worried that this would wind up being a video that bashes people who do that sort of thing, that we're taking the ~easy~ way out and aren't real hunters.
So thank you, dude, and best of luck on your hunts. /salutes
TheSupremeRk9s your my favourite shiny hunter
good luck with your next random shiny
Saw this video retweeted in my Twitter feed. I'm a casual Pokemon player, and I really appreciate this approach. I think the new methods kind of devalue the thrill of finding a Shiny naturally. No hate to anybody who uses the newer methods, but I really like finding them the good old fashioned way! Great video! :)
It’s much more worth it when you work for it without anything to help like a shiny charm. I feel like it’s much more rewarding.
Wow you seem like a good full odds shiny hunter
You shiny hunt???
ur not first, I'm first
I uploaded this last night and commented hours before you even knew this video existed
First reply!
TheSupremeRk9s dang it you win😂
TheSupremeRk9s lool
TheSupremeRk9s wow that's some hardcore firsting
TheSupremeRk9s I'd like to disagree only really three methods increase odds as it goes which is pokeradar,dexnav and chain fishing. so the other methods stays the same while the do increase the odds and yes the shiny charm also helps but the odds don't change unless you get the charm or use the odd increasing method hunts. but I think full odds are great and I think method hunting is great but I don't judge sorry if this makes no sense but I'm just ranting.
"Someone's gotta tell them!" I actually laughed out loud haha but yeah this video is 100% my thoughts too man, so glad you made a video for it so I can just link people when they ask instead of going on a half hour explanation xD
This is an incredible video, very well said! It's just not right that us full odds hunters have some sort of bad reputation for judging the way others hunt when most of the time it's the other way around. I do think method hunting is stupid easy but it's the methods I dislike, not the people who use them. Everyone has their own preferences and that's perfectly fine. I really hope this video will help both full odds and method hunters grow up and realize that people can shiny hunt the way they want, and that it's fine to have a different preference than other people. I know I definitely took shiny hunting way too seriously in the past, but even then I thought it was just dumb and pointless to harass someone over the way they shiny hunt because in the end it's just a hobby, and the most important thing is to have fun.
+YourFriedBread
Personally, I'm more for Soft resetting and SOS hunting in SM and USUM, but outside of those two methods my luck is garbage, so any other methods like hatching eggs or just random encounters[Or the super complicated chaining methods, that I tend to avoid, even if the odds are crazy good after a while] scare me more than they probably should.
Dude you're an awesome pokétuber... HOW MANY SHINIES HAVE YOU FAILED!!!???
DUDE you NAILED this!!!!!!!!!! This is the video I'll always share in the future now when addressed with a question about this; I can't really disagree with ANYTHING you said.
+AbsolBlogsPokemon thanks matticus, Full Odds brought me friends like u & that's cool as heck
I completely understand. I love both ways, but after going 5 days for an Oricorio and only just finally getting it, I really started shouting and screaming in happiness...
Preach it brother!
TheUnderdog2020 I don't care about method used for hunting.
I just like hunting in general
Regardless of whether you hunt with a method or hunt full odds we all have one thing in common and that is that we love finding shiny pokemon
Dude I'm 30 seconds into this video and already feel the need to thank you for explaining this way of going about shiny hunting. Love being a part of the full odds "community" (as you say it's all just one)! Def gotta support both methoders and full odds like us alike! Nothing like positivity :) Good luck on your hunts everyone!
You are by far one of the best full odds hunters and people I have ever met friend
I love this video, thanks for making it :) Sometimes I feel like because I do method hunting like SOS that people look down on me and think they're better, but I've learnt to ignore them and just have fun now. Good luck on all your hunts guys!
I started shiny hunting yesterday. And right off the start I found a shiny staryu, I wanted a shiny sandygast but it was great luck.
Can't believe I'm still hunting back when I found your Kyogre video and remembered about shines. Crazy that it's been almost 10 years from my first shiny and now I have a good bit more from you. Great video man, have fun on your videos and hunts!
I was fishing for a pokemon and found a shiny instead. I obviously freaked out but then I realised it was chain fishing. I still always get excited no matter method or full ods. (Although im not a patient full odds shiny hunter)
update: after this vídeo I decided to make a Full odds shiny hunt and the First Pokemon I found was a shiny araquinid lol
Thomas Rodrigues Was it a Dewpider? Araquanid cannot be found in the wild
Brextol it can
malie Garden at day
I can confirm Araquanid can be found in the wild... In fact, until post game I didn't even realise it evolved from anything because I had encountered several wild Araquanid but not one wild Dewpider :P
thats not true full odds, try a 8,000 hunt
lol chris
I’m just watching this, and oh my god, you explained it so perfectly. I prefer random encounters and soft resetting to any other method, and you pretty much hit all of my points as to why I prefer full odds.
Thanks so much for this video, Dallas. Been waiting for it for a long time and you addressed just about every point I ever would have (and more). No hunter should feel inferior just because they hunt a certain way, while others hunt a different way. I think a lot of method hunters would be surprised to hear that even amongst full-odds hunters there are those who believe one type of full-odds is better(!?) than another! You can never truly hold up to any perfect standard when it comes to shiny hunting. All you can do is focus on what you love and what makes you happy. That's really what hunting is all about, and that's why the "full odds huners think they're better" mindset is such utter garbage. It's just about the journey and the adrenaline rush, whether it comes super fast or it takes forever, and this is a message that absolutely needed to be put out there. Shiny hunting is shiny hunting. Like you my sister and I have made so many friends just because of it (you included), and we wouldn't give that up for anything! Thanks for addressing this in such a well made video. Love you.
Preach! I really got into shiny hunting when x and y came out. After countless reduced odds shiny I tried full odds. It is now my preferred way to shiny hunt. 100% agree with everything you said.
Good luck on your hunts everyone.
I still remember when I first started shiny hunting. My first two shinies were both method hunted and my reaction was more of an "Oh!" rather than a "Holy Shit!" which is probably an understatement when describing my first hunted full odds shiny xD
it seems nice being able to interact with fans while shiny hunting
Congrats on 75,000 subs Dallas!!! (:
Seriously, couldn't agree with you more Dallas. Thank you for making this. I started out with Masuda method so I will always have a soft spot for it, but people like you were what inspired me try full odds hunting more. And here I am, nearly 2 years later, and don't see myself turning back. o/ But as someone that made that jump, starting out full odds can seem super intimidating. I can completely understand others that don't want to do it or don't understand it. It can be rough sometimes! But that's what makes it fun, least in my opinion and other like minded people. But at the end of the day, a shiny is a shiny.
dallas pin this comment because you love me
Axel Cordova Dude did this get unpinned?? I check, you are pinned and then refresh and you aren't?? Heh..?
MrDogeFace - AoNathan ikr
Axel Cordova | That was easy! :D
Axel Cordova I'm jealous
lol
I love your content so much, your channel is the main reason why I've decided to start shiny hunting legendaries, my friends could not believe it was even possible until I showed them that shiny Ho-oh that I caught on ORAS. Thanks for all the inspiration.
You should hunt for shiny miltank dressed as a milkman
+Pablo Aguilera this is DEFINITELY happening
don't worry
Ivonne would go into overload XD
Pablo Aguilera I'd like to see Dallas go for a shiny suckler or Deanna dressed as a beautiful swan :p
Came back here as a reminder, that'd be nice yo see
i know this video is a little old, but i wanted to say something. randomly one day i just wanted to hunt full odds and i had no idea why, i thought it would be fun to try it out. now i do full odds hunting a lot and might even prefer it. i still method hunt and dont undermine method hunters, but Dallas, you and many others have inspired me to try it out so i wanted to say thank you :)
I've been thinking of expanding my channel past just shinies, and wanted this topic as my first new topic. Probably won't now, this video has literally every point I had in my script and more, haha.
Good video my man, best of luck on the rest of your hunts! What are you going to go for next?
Shiny Hunter Hunter don't let my video discourage you from doing the same! It's something not too many people are talking about and it's cool to see perspectives! Good luck on your new videos my friend
Dude I totally agree with the whole full odds shiny. My reactions have been way cooler when I don't know what I'm getting. Plus I'm new to the whole method hunting. I do like method hunting if you're looking for one Pokémon in general but I like "full odds" if you just want a shiny. I also wanted to say your content rocks and I always love watching. Keep them coming!!
I’ve unintentionally transitioned into being more of a full odds Hunter. I released all of my wormhole shinies because they didn’t mean anything to me, it felt too easy. Even though I have a full-time job, I enjoy not finding shinies too too often, because it’s such a rush when I find one.
I know I'm late to the party, and this comment might never be seen by anyone, but this video hits the nail on the head! I grew up shiny hunting in a time period where methods hunting didn't exist yet! I started shiny hunting with gen 3 before gen 4 even came out. When gen 4 came out and introduced masuda method and chaining, it seemed cool at first, and I'll give chain hunting credit in that it's very strategic, but it just didn't hit the same way full odds hunting does. Method hunting takes away that surprise factor a lot of the time. The only method hunting I can say doesn't really take away from the surprise factor is masuda method, but even then just knowing that it increases the odds, it feels like I'm cheating almost. That's how I personally feel, and I know others might not feel that way. But I prefer full odds hunting cause it feels so much more rewarding! And like you said in the video, part of the fun is the hunt itself knowing that you're trying to hunt something incredibly rare! And when you finally get it, nothing compares to that feeling.
totally
has anyone else just randomly found a shiny cause i did it is a pelliper
sans steve0d757 yup! I found a shiny tropius in oras and a shiny fearow in sun the same way :)
Yay i did it in oras too mine was actually a Nincada
sans steve0d757 I found a shiny Starly in Platinum!
sans steve0d757 Grandbull and Pelipper in Moon, Also i got Swablu and seviper in ORAS :3
Dru Vlogs I love swablu's shiny! youre so lucky!!!
This is the best explanation on youtube for full-odds hunting, good work :D
Can you do some vids shiny hunting on older Pokemon games? Like on Diamond, Heartgold, FireRed, Ruby etc.
Thomas Norton-Crossman He has in the past, people call it his creepy or pirate voice lol.
You are just the purest in the shiny hunting community. Keep doing your thing please I enjoy your videos.
the reason i method hunt:
i have very little time
How about now
@@pizzatime1901 Essential Worker
The reason I method hunt: I’m an impatient little frik. I’m fine with doing full odds sometimes because method hunting can take super long sometimes too (looking at you masuda method), but I have a hard time sitting for hours on end trying to find shinies
Stubz702 full odds hunting is a lot harder than masuda method wdym
Randumb333 yeah but the time sometimes to get the shiny egg hatch can take really long, especislly for pokemon with 6000-10,000 steps for the, to hatch
Great video Dallas! :D
Full odds is definitely awesome and always be in heart.The thrill of never knowing what you going to get, random encountering wise. I've done method hunts in the past before I went mostly to full odds hunting. I still masuda but not very often. Keep it up the good videos man!
i think like a month ago i was playing black two and i wanted a riolu in my team. then out of no where, i found one and it was shiny! she's now a beautiful lucario named riley (yeah i named it after riley in dppt).
I'm a method and to me the fun of shiny hunting is planning how to hunt specific things in efficient ways. (Movesets, how to get consistent chains, etc.) You don't really get that with full odds, but that part of the charm, not knowing when it's gonna show up and knowing that it was absolute chance. I really have respect for full odds hunters.
YASSSS! Dallas, you preached it to the choir.
Such a needed video tbh. But a great job explaining from both sides Dallas, this is why you're considered one of the best RUclipsrs in my book. #KeepOnDrinkingMilk
What is your favorite shiny of each type?
Dallas! I know you put this up awhile ago, but I've finally been inspired to shiny hunt in older generations! I have a copy of Pokèmon White and Black, so I'm SR for Snivy and Oshawott and I'm soo excited to see how long the hunt takes and challenging myself with the 1/8000 odds. I've hunted since 6th and well... I've gotten bored of shiny hunting in recent games, like ridiculously so I wanted to see if playing older games would get me back into it. Thank you for explaining Full Odds and why people hunt this way, even though Masuda Method is my favourite way to hunt, RE and SR can be just as fun.
I'm hunting shiny giratina 50,000 plus encounters Done really getting bored on platinum
Do you got it already?
Any luck yet?
Wow. The only full odds a hunt I did was to find a shiny Ditto in Gold, and I'm up to 3000 encounters and I haven't found one yet
Are ya winnin' son?
@@OmegaExalted nup still didn't get it
"It's not because they're full odds hunters that they're like that, it's that they're bad people." Lmfao. Dallas, that was the best line ever.
Thanks so much for your opinion. I do full and method hunts and I'm just happy to meet others in the community that enjoy shiny hunting and pokemon. But for real, thanks for putting this video out. You're explaining the difference, hopefully clearing up the confusion and bridging some of the gap.
~Flipmander
I accidentally found a full odds shiny staryu
Catfire There's no accident about it! Congrats for a full odds Staryu, though!
Catfire congrats!!
Catfire I found a full odds shiny torkoal while trying to evolve pokemon for the shiny charm
Merrick Brown Nice!!
Catfire GG !
I agree with everything in the video. No matter if you hunt full odds or methods, at the end of the day we all should enjoy what we do to get our shinies since they all mean something to us all individually. There shouldn't be any conflict since if you really think about we're aiming toward the same goal, it is just that everyone obtains their shiny Pokemon differently and there's no need for discrimination. I'm just going to end that here, remember to hunt what you makes you happy, full odds or methods it doesn't matter as long as you're happy. Have fun with it and good luck with all your hunts everyone ♡
i found a shiny ledyba while searching for kartana. it was my first shiny ever lol
Wow, this is an awesome video man! Keep up the great work! I have to admit, I absolutely love full odds shiny hunting as well. If it wasn't for the one day I randomly found a shiny buizel in pokemon diamond 8 years ago, I would have never probably been a shiny hunter. Also, this video encourages me to shiny hunt even more as well. Thanks for the encouragement of full odds hunting and have an awesome day! :D
Would horde hunting be full odds or method? I mean each Pokemon has their own 1/4096 chance of being shiny, but it's faster, so is it a mix of both?
Technically it is a mix of both, but a lot of 8192 hunters don't use it since it makes things a lot easier/quicker in a similar way to using a method (:
I think it'd be considered Method. Yeah, each has their 1/4,096 chance, but you're increasing your chances by x6 to find a shiny, since you're encountering 6 Pokemon at once. I think it may not count as method, though, if you're hunting something like Sudowoodo, who can only be found in hoards.
Ellie F 5 pokemon in a horde.
Holly Boreham I thought it was six? Huh. My bad, thanks :)
+Ellie F I don't think it's Method. Going by your logic, hunting with multiple cartridges would also be considered Method.
@TheSupremeRK9s I completely agree with your description of the difference between full odds hunters and method hunters. I completely get the desire to not want to spend countless hours going for a shiny when you have many ways to make it easier. Glad to know there are other full odds hunters who dont think they are better than others just because their shinies are harder to find.
I got a shiny absol after 14 RE's and no shiny charm today :D
+Scaleaf GG
Gg, found Shiny Zekrom without the shiny charm and in 8 soft resets!
Scaleaf Nice
Hi Hi ayyyy it’s hi hi from 11 months ago
Hi Hi that zekrom murdered me many times
You are literally the best ♡♡ I hate certain shiny hunters (not dropping names) that think they're SO DANG SUPERIOR because they only hunt full odds and they hate on any other methods :/ we're all shiny hunters here people! Thanks for this video ♡
SOS for Shiny Mareanie! or for shiny low level Salamence/Dragonite. A lot of SOS is easy but there are some challenges still there. I got a random shiny Chansey from a Riolu SOS and I was actually just going for a regular Lucario.
I bought Pokemon crystal for my 3ds last week and I am in love with full odds shiny hunting already! The only method I could do before was the masuda method but I find full odds hunting really exhilarating! Thanks for introducing it to me!!
i have over 50 full odds shinies and only 2 of them were full 1 in 4000 odds and they are my proudest shinies I have
DragonGamer 475 Congrats!
Really most of your videos are of method hunts
It's all about quality not quantity, I prefer a 'legitimate' reaction to shiny hunting rather than forced over-hyped reactions. From looking at other channels only the Full Odds shiny reactions I like, so stick at what makes you happy! Congrats on 75K as well!
I don't see what's wrong with a full odds hunter. I method hunt but people complain that it takes to long. I tried it AN ITS AMAZING
Please do more supreme thoughts I love to hear your pokemon thoughts!
You know, Dallas I used to think you were crazy hunting full odds. Until two days ago I caught my first 'full odds' (with shiny charm) shiny Honedge! I'm now going for a Pawniard (NEVERMIND AS IM TYPING THIS I JUST GOT A SHINY SKORUPI)
Full odds means not raising your odds, so if you have a shiny charm, that's not considered full odds
Never ruin someone's happiness youtube police officer. @@shadowscorpz2268
I have full odds soft resetted for an Absol and an Eevee and it is absolutely amazing when you get the shiny. And when you are in an area with lots of Pokemon and you get the one you want( I wanted Absol and Eevee) the feeling overwhelms you of how amazing it is.
Does the Masuda method still work in sun and moon
User names are pointless. So why bother get one. Yes it's the same odds as other gen 6 games as well :))
Togepilovesnug and it's faster to
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Yup. I got a shiny after hatching 116 eggs using that method
As an old full odds hunter, this rlly made me happy. It's so nice to find other full odds hunters in this year :,)
I hunt both full odds and method. I do full odds for lots of the reasons you say, but usually have to take breaks between almost every hunt because it is *repetitive* . Full odds is always the same thing, running around, but as I said, I enjoy it for reasons you listed. I do method because it has so many different ways to improve your odds, it makes a nice mix, so I can play different games or just do different methods to have some extra fun playing the game instead of just sitting there staring and doing repetitive things. Yes, methods get repetitive, but it you alternate its fine. Also, you actually actively engage in the game when method hunting. For example, you have to carefully pay attention to your chain and play the game instead of popping on netflix and running around for forever. (But as I've said, I still love full odds, but it just gets a bit repetitive) The one thing I will never do is the shiny charm. WHAT? Ok, let me explain. I don't care how long it takes to get a shiny, but it means more to me if it takes longer, especially if the odds are less. I only enjoy method hunting because it is fun to do, not because it increases the odds. Which is why I never finished my pokedex since black 2 and white 2. I would get all except one most likely route 1 pokemon to feel it is mostly finished, then make sure to never hunt that pokemon in that game. That is my opinion and oh god this is long. Oh well! Here, take my opinion I know you never asked for.
I know this is old, but you can complete your Pokédex without getting the shiny charm. You just need to not talk to the person who gives it to you.
I used to do full odds hunts, when I was younger and had more time on my hands. Just soft resetting over and over watching your videos hahaha! Now, I can't do that anymore, so I'm more of a method hunter, but no shiny will ever make me as happy and excited than my shiny Groudon in SS. 28 000 soft resets of pure happiness :)
Am I the only one who doesn't like the methods in Sun and Moon such as SOS chaining?
ShinyHunterManny me
ShinyHunterManny I sometimes just use SOS chains to gain Exp for my team
I do SOS chaining from time to time if something is taking too long to hunt full odds.
ShinyHunterManny go full odds dratini. gl.
QizziT why Dratini?
This video made me think of why I started what I thought was the hardest hunt back in the time when HeartGold and SoulSilver were released, I knew that hunting full odds was a challenge, but I wanted something more to prove myself that I was capable of accomplishing anything that I would set as a purpose... It ended up being that the "hardest hunt" started to take time from me that I could spend playing something else, learning or being with the people I care.
When I knew it was easier to hunt on new generations I coudn't stop thinking of how people love to get things fast and in an easy way... Hunting for a roamer on 4th generation was a way of proving myself how much I could handle, but when luck vanished, I started to doubt, and wondered if doing it was worth my time, ended up realising that getting shinies faster saves you time for doing something else.
In the end I just want to share what this hunt taught me: "Focusing too much on an objective sometimes could limit yourself from enjoying other things in life."
Not because I got a rare shiny means that I'm better than anyone, I just want to value the time I spent on it and confirm what you also mentioned, the feeling of getting a full odds shiny doesn't compare to the feeling of a lowered odds shiny.
It took me six years to get a roamer shiny latias, and for me, It's worth a lot more than those shiny pokémon I would find using easier methods.
I think it's awsome that you are still hunting and growing on this website, greetings from an oldschool shiny hunter.
Do you know NewTiteuf? ;P
I am a full odds hunter, but I used to be a methods hunter. I only switched over when I was about to start a Radar chain and found a random shiny Abra. That feeling was probably the best shiny encounter that I remember and I want to re-experience something like that.
i wanna see u sos hunting :D, but only if u want to try it as well, idc if u dont but, i'd love to see u try it :DD
Well said Dallas, maybe this will help clear up the hate comments that a lot of us Full Odds hunters are getting. Honestly, I felt like it was getting out of hand. Glad someone did this at last. Method Odds hunters might finally understand why we hunt at Full Odds at least a bit better now :3
#HolyShinx Hey SupreamRK9's has anyone told you that you look just like Michel from MandJTVPokevids? By the way did you see he got a shiny on his second episode of his Pokémon Sun let's play?
ThatGuyWithTheTripod Now that you mention it....
ThatGuyWithTheTripod ikr
I'm mostly a method hunter, but a month or so back I pulled my first 1/8192 shiny, a starter Totodile in VC Crystal. I'm at 6,422 SR's on a shiny Celebi now on the same file. In the past I've given up on method hunts that were taking "too long", but after the time I've sunk into this Celebi, I'm in it for the long haul. Kudos to those who always hunt full odds; I don't think I could ever fully embrace it for myself, but it's nice to get a sense of what it can be like.
Dallas plz hunt in gold/silver/Chrystal
I started shiny huntiny when Diamond and pearl were released. Sadly my old games were stolen so I only have sword, Pearl and Crystal to hunt on!! Hunting for Cyndaquil in crystal now
Good luck if you haven't gotten it yet!
Actually, the odds in Friend Safari are ~1/820 without the Charm and ~1/526 with it. The game generates 5 PIDs instead of 1 when you encounter a Pokémon, and 2 others when you have the Charm.
Thanks! I trust that, I'm not sure where the number 1/512 came from exactly I just know all the hunters I've seen use it when they talk about friend safari!
The thing is : nobody knows. In fact, this number would exist (in theory) if and only if 8 PIDs would be generated, because 1/512 aproximately equals 1/(1-(4095/4096)^8) which is how probabilities are calculated with the binomial law.
So I think this confusion comes from the fact that the people who thought this was the probability came up with a number that fit their average, in term of encoounters before getting a shiny.
But nobody had looked into the game's code, that's why last year, MrNbaYoh on Twitter found the need to look what was really written down there. And that was his discovery.
And by the way, AbsolBlogsPokemon has made a video about that if I remember right.
i wholeheartedly agree w this vid! a shiny hunter is a shiny hunter, no matter what way they hunt! i usually do method hunting, but i enjoy me a full odds hunt every once in a while (mostly the case for legends, haha)
Y'a des français ici ??
Titeuf Pinoy oui moi
Oui oui =)
Oui croissant
TheSupremeRk9s you got me into full odds hunting, I did a test run with the shiny charm in sun, got a shiny lycanroc midnight and now I'm onto the second phase of my first true full odds hunt in black version, I'm hunting shiny sewaddle but i got a shiny audino less than 20 encounters in! thank you!!
TheSupremeRk9s X Newtiteuf ?
Tagada's FaMiLy ~
Yayyy :p
Tagada's FaMiLy ~
Yayyy :p
I love watching your full odds hunts! Keep it coming friend~
Are you Newtiteuf's/Julien's boyfriend ? Because he did a video where he showed us his guy type and that was like your copy (sorry for english i'm bad tho x))
Silver Not sure because Newtiteuf didn't tell us who is it so maube did he say to Dallas not to tell it too (and the sims' name NT made started with D too)
mobile.twitter.com/EllyPokemon/status/820270792147484673
Watch this
Silver ?
I prefer watching full odds shiny hunts over method hunting for all the reasons you mentioned. It makes getting a shiny - and seeing someone get a full odds shiny - all the more exciting. :D
apparently your with a french youtuber named "Newtiteuf" ?
My Demon MDRRRR
shiny hunters are more patient than monks. Extremely inspirational to tell kids keep trying coz theres always a chance u get what u want.Thx Supreme RK9s.👍
Your are the boyfriend of Newtiteuf ?
New wave Yes he is
My objective is to find the entire shinydex and i am like in the 1/3 of the path. That involves full odds soft resets and some random full odds so i like to refer to me like a pseudo full odds hunter. Great video!
Voici l'homme idéal de NewTiteuf :D
asada shino ~
Tu m'as faite rire xD
asada shino oui xD
asada shino il est pas moche juste comment il se sont rencontrer ?
lucas 38 mais ... bruh. en fait ils se connaissent pas c'est juste que le sims que NT a créé ressemble ÉNORMÉMENT à ce youtuber. Voila
lucas 38 d'ailleur il est pas mal physiquement ce youtuber 😏😏
Very well put! I'm a full odds hunter and although I haven't been able to hunt in a long time, this makes me want to sit down with my fire red and leaf green and get some shinies again! Nice video!
you're a nice dude
I personally used or well I'm still a full odds hunter but not a lot like back then when there was no methods hunting. I love using methods to hunt for shinies faster but I also enjoy getting full odds shinies every often, in my opinion they're both exciting to find a shiny although in some your adventure may extend a bit longer, using either method we use, shiny hunters is what we are and nothing won't change that, pokemon is what we love and a community we are. Good luck on your shiny hunts whatever you hunt guys and girls! n.n
MMMM JE DOUTE AVEC NEWTITEUF
Say ' ;)
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raichu sama c'est plus du doute la, le mec a la MEME casquette ( ; quel dommage ptn il a de la chance NT si c'est lui parce que le mec c'est un canon😍😍
raichu sama il est largement plus beau que NT
ahh TheSupremeRk9s you got me into full odds hunting, I did a test run with the shiny charm in sun, got a shiny lycanroc midnight and now I'm onto the seconds phase of my first true full odds hunt in black version, I'm hunting shiny sewaddle but i got a shiny audino less than 20 encounters in! thank you!!
how are you so attractive
+Xtrensity camera angles
TheSupremeRk9s 😍😍😍😍😍
Xtrensity IKR he's cute and hot
TheSupremeRk9s isn't it because you drink milk?
Lol XD
Thank you for making this video! I love doing full odds, but people don't understand. I love your videos so much. You and the Shiny Twins have inspired me to make RUclips videos too! When I find this shuny Oshawott (soft resets in White) I'm gonna post it on my channel! Thanks so much for inspiring me!
I love all mehods. Full odds is more fun but i just dont have a lot of time with school
I got my full odds shiny venipede in the first phase some days ago in white 2, which was my target. Never had such an awesome feeling. So much cooler than the Lge/p hunts I did before. Not that I don't love my 30+ shinies(which took as long as the venipede)in these games but the feeling when getting a full odds shiny is so different. Full odds hunting is a lot more awesome than I thought.