I believe for FP2 PVE Magical DPS Doram is right in the same level as Begetter and Taekwondo, and way better than Nogu. But people forget about that spec on Dorams due most ppl build them as Physical/Tank or Support.
Magic doram definitely has a lot of potential. I'm working on an updated magic doram guide with Zacht right now (the original magic doram player I interviewed). That should be out in a few days.
But I cant have the genos or saitama anymore, so what classes do u recommend for P2w, actually i already have a nogu, but it seems its not my type, I want genos or saitama but its not available anymore
Khalitzburg is the best DPS in the game right now. The limited time Liu Mao Xing is available now, but I would only recommend if you have magic DPS gear. Since you are a NoGu, I think physical classes are better
@@WobblyWallaby I was thinking to do Thanatos right now. But I’m having trouble to level up my Job Level without using potions, I already used up a lot Job XL and the purple Job potion, I got a Rune Knight already, I have no Idea now what should I do to level it up, do you have any tips? Thank you
It's too bad, I tried the tier 5 rogue bow on CBT and it still isn't good enough. The damage scaling is just too low. Maybe one day PD will be good...I hope the hero class for it will be amazing to make up for all the pain.
I would love it if they would adjust the skills of Saitama so that he can compete with other class when doing weeklies. Especially the Warm-up Skill which sucks
I use Saitama for weeklies. Especially for legend instances and Oracle dungeon. I only use warm up before it starts then just use his other skills after. My NoGu can't compete with Saitama for damage, Saitama is really OP for weeklies in my opinion
@@WobblyWallaby I agree. My opinion is biased, but from what I've seen ingame over several months, only Saitama or Begetter can really solo legend instance weeklies, or even carry a group. No other class really can. Not even Genos (even though I like his damage output). Genos is too stationary which is counterintuitive when you need to dodge effects on the ground, or dodge attacks. Saitama and Begetter are much better. Good movement, and good damage. Nogu...I gave up on a while ago after playing him for years. He can't clear tough legend instances at all. What a shame. And I'm using +15 gear on him, mvp cards, 60+% deposits etc. That doesn't cut it. To me, soloing legend instances is the new benchmark for a good class, and only Saitama and Begetter are doing it. Honestly, who would have thought Begetter would outshine Nogu like that. But it is what it is. This is just some heartfelt advice to new and mid-level players. Don't build Nogu in 2023. Go for Begetter instead.
Yeah, it would be great if I could collaborate with the legends of the ROM community. I have enjoyed collaborating with people for videos so we will see who else I can work with :)
meanwhile me playing RM auto attack since beginning of the game with minimum spending and terrible luck in gacha and refine ...... guess I need to change to NoGu then
If you play long enough and choose broken classes, then you don't need to spend money. I know a lot of people who spend no money, but by playing for several years, they are very, very strong. Choosing the most broken class always helps :)
No, I had a friend who joined late last year and enjoys it. There's plenty of ways to help new players catchup, so I think you can join anytime. PvE is very enjoyable. If you want to do PvP competitively, then it's too late, as PvP has a lot of whales.
People have different opinions, which is why it's nice to ask people. Doram is good, and was my old main. You will hit a certain DPS ceiling, where it will be very hard to go above. For begetter, the new rework of the homunculus makes it so that you can hit really, really hard, even if your handbook isn't super fat. The damage scaling is just very high and is great for void or any reflect bosses.
A lot of people don't do face reveals. Same with me. I prefer to be private and I am not a professional streamer. I do this for fun and not have this interfere with my work or family. It is so easy to reverse image search people and to get personal information.
It is true, that one is a hard one to get. But NoGu with lower depo with those two runes out DPS most classes. I had played NoGu back when my depo was 20% and it allowed me to carry brave instances, something I could never achieve with other classes. We were pretty upfront about the requirements but I agree that it is probably the least f2p among the three mentioned
I cover which class to select here: ruclips.net/video/BGLpwmHqzVQ/видео.html including the base level classes like acolyte, merchant, mechanic, hunter, advance novice, Taekwon and more. It should make more sense and I show the class tree
7/7 hela is really annoying to deal with. How does support CM beat hela in yoyo? I don't play CM, so I'm not sure what tricks you'd be using to deal with hela's annoying stat stealing. I assume you also have purple relic elf's piccolo to avoid having your cast time messed up?
I've been playing this game for a while now and I've realized I've wasted my time because there's just no way I will ever be able to beat the rich pay-to-win players...😮💨
Two p2w content creator sponsored by Gravity 🤣😂 Warning... don't let these two fool you.. Dont play this game too boring and imbalance feature like this 2 foolish dog.
You can ask her that in her videos to get a response. I think support is a difficult one to answer for P2W. She had made Saint the PvE choice for both P2W and F2P. I'd imagine for PvP, if you really had to choose, Saint and Chrono are the best for PvP for P2W too. Both are very popular in the meta.
Thank you WobblyWallaby for featuring me in your channel! It was great collaborating with you! ❤
didn't expect this, two of the content creators i always go for guides together in one video ~ nice.
the collab we all need..
Legendary Miss Maven.
Já usei muitos tutoriais do canal da Miss Maven para montar minhas builds.
Loved this collab!! 100% agree with every recommendation
Awesome collab content! Looking for spicy job guides and strats of each class in the future.
The collab Rom needs. This is the start of "the RUclips council of Rom"
Lol the ROM council :) sounds like a secret society
I believe for FP2 PVE Magical DPS Doram is right in the same level as Begetter and Taekwondo, and way better than Nogu. But people forget about that spec on Dorams due most ppl build them as Physical/Tank or Support.
Magic doram definitely has a lot of potential. I'm working on an updated magic doram guide with Zacht right now (the original magic doram player I interviewed). That should be out in a few days.
@@WobblyWallaby my BF is main Magic Doram i will ask him to check that vid and comment so he can feedback.
Yay! Love the collab. :)
Collab of 2 of the most soothing voices on RO related videos. ❤ We may now sleep well. Night night!😂
the long awaited collab xD
love you guys both of you 💛
This is the real collab we have been waiting! S2
woaaa awesome content!
Thanks to both of you❤😊
The dynamic duo to action!!
You finally got her!!!
Yeah, I couldn't believe it either!
But I cant have the genos or saitama anymore, so what classes do u recommend for P2w, actually i already have a nogu, but it seems its not my type, I want genos or saitama but its not available anymore
Khalitzburg is the best DPS in the game right now. The limited time Liu Mao Xing is available now, but I would only recommend if you have magic DPS gear. Since you are a NoGu, I think physical classes are better
@@WobblyWallaby I was thinking to do Thanatos right now. But I’m having trouble to level up my Job Level without using potions, I already used up a lot Job XL and the purple Job potion, I got a Rune Knight already, I have no Idea now what should I do to level it up, do you have any tips? Thank you
Nice collab great great didnt expect this
My favorite are Wizard and Thanatos still nothing beats the Saint as the support and buffs.
Love the content you need to make a video on farming vs doing new intances to see what makes better zenny farm it would be great
Hi guys any idea is that still neccesary to made 2nd and 3rd alt acc? And which class is the best for it?
What do you mean by alt accessories? I use a few different accessories since I multiclass. Can you give an example of a 2nd or 3rd alt accessory?
@@WobblyWallaby i think its alt account not accessory
I have 6% depo which class should I use for echoing corridor?
I use novice guardian on my f2p account for EC. You need good AOE
@@WobblyWallaby thanks man
And Phantom Dancer sup or emp breaker f2p? Its good?
Phantom dancer is my favorite, but the dev. dont give some improvements on this class =(
It's too bad, I tried the tier 5 rogue bow on CBT and it still isn't good enough. The damage scaling is just too low. Maybe one day PD will be good...I hope the hero class for it will be amazing to make up for all the pain.
@@WobblyWallaby looking for that one, or an anime collab again. Solo leveling will be great for Pd class hehehe
PD is my favorite as well
I would love it if they would adjust the skills of Saitama so that he can compete with other class when doing weeklies. Especially the Warm-up Skill which sucks
I use Saitama for weeklies. Especially for legend instances and Oracle dungeon. I only use warm up before it starts then just use his other skills after. My NoGu can't compete with Saitama for damage, Saitama is really OP for weeklies in my opinion
@@WobblyWallaby Can you tell me your current build and depo for saitama?
@@WobblyWallaby I agree. My opinion is biased, but from what I've seen ingame over several months, only Saitama or Begetter can really solo legend instance weeklies, or even carry a group. No other class really can. Not even Genos (even though I like his damage output). Genos is too stationary which is counterintuitive when you need to dodge effects on the ground, or dodge attacks. Saitama and Begetter are much better. Good movement, and good damage.
Nogu...I gave up on a while ago after playing him for years. He can't clear tough legend instances at all. What a shame. And I'm using +15 gear on him, mvp cards, 60+% deposits etc. That doesn't cut it. To me, soloing legend instances is the new benchmark for a good class, and only Saitama and Begetter are doing it.
Honestly, who would have thought Begetter would outshine Nogu like that. But it is what it is. This is just some heartfelt advice to new and mid-level players. Don't build Nogu in 2023. Go for Begetter instead.
I wish u can also collab with blueberries too
Yeah, it would be great if I could collaborate with the legends of the ROM community. I have enjoyed collaborating with people for videos so we will see who else I can work with :)
Miss Maven Face is Still Mystery 😢
So it means Physical Ninja is still useless ?
Hey Boss, can you make tier list for PVP? Same like this, f2p and whale categories since Devs changed the game dynamics again.
Unfortunately I don't play PvP competitively so I can't provide an accurate list
Thanks
How to use the offhand plus 8 refine voucher?
blueberries is next!
Hahaha, what you'll only hear is his text to speech
@@CheonMaJossa darkberries still has his account hahaha
meanwhile me playing RM auto attack since beginning of the game with minimum spending and terrible luck in gacha and refine ......
guess I need to change to NoGu then
nc collab 😍
F2P pve and boss hunting is nogu. Coz the spees.
F2P pve ez for clearing CML fl 3 Taekwon
F2P pvp . Thanatos. Must collect rune line and play CC type
nice collab
how I'm ended to be both p2w jobs for pve and pve, and % whale as no spender O_o
If you play long enough and choose broken classes, then you don't need to spend money. I know a lot of people who spend no money, but by playing for several years, they are very, very strong. Choosing the most broken class always helps :)
As a new player is Nogu still good in PVE without the 2 runes ?
Bad
Novice Guardian should have a Hero Class soon that job deserves an UPGRADE!
Isn’t NG is good already? Every article that comes out 2021/2022 always say NG is one of the best, unless they nerfed them
Hmmm... Yes, things are the same since PC Ro... Except for the huge nerf on the Crusader Class branch...
is it too late to join?
No, I had a friend who joined late last year and enjoys it. There's plenty of ways to help new players catchup, so I think you can join anytime. PvE is very enjoyable. If you want to do PvP competitively, then it's too late, as PvP has a lot of whales.
Hi. How you get free job change vouchers?
If you complete museum or isles at brave level or above with a certain class, you get the voucher after. The adventure handbook shows which classes.
New player guide pls
I was really expecting Doram to be somewhere on this list. Also, how is Begetter F2P? I thought you needed big book for them? Great video though.
People have different opinions, which is why it's nice to ask people. Doram is good, and was my old main. You will hit a certain DPS ceiling, where it will be very hard to go above. For begetter, the new rework of the homunculus makes it so that you can hit really, really hard, even if your handbook isn't super fat. The damage scaling is just very high and is great for void or any reflect bosses.
Hmm... where is the Luna class belong? 😁😁😁
Hey they doing a collab without face reveal from miss. Maven!
A lot of people don't do face reveals. Same with me. I prefer to be private and I am not a professional streamer. I do this for fun and not have this interfere with my work or family. It is so easy to reverse image search people and to get personal information.
Build chronomancer PvP please ;[
Swift storm star rune isnt that F2P friendly in my opinion
It is true, that one is a hard one to get. But NoGu with lower depo with those two runes out DPS most classes. I had played NoGu back when my depo was 20% and it allowed me to carry brave instances, something I could never achieve with other classes. We were pretty upfront about the requirements but I agree that it is probably the least f2p among the three mentioned
Chronomancer for pvp since day and begetter for pve for me f2p..plays
I really can't understand the things you saying.. classes are swordsman, archer, mage, etc.. how can i know what you talking about as a beginner..?
I cover which class to select here: ruclips.net/video/BGLpwmHqzVQ/видео.html including the base level classes like acolyte, merchant, mechanic, hunter, advance novice, Taekwon and more. It should make more sense and I show the class tree
@@WobblyWallaby thank you!!
7/7 hela(hero class) cant even beat a support cm in yoyo
7/7 hela is really annoying to deal with. How does support CM beat hela in yoyo? I don't play CM, so I'm not sure what tricks you'd be using to deal with hela's annoying stat stealing. I assume you also have purple relic elf's piccolo to avoid having your cast time messed up?
I do play as tank hela, cm beats me by the skill giving me cast time. Thanatos really beats the cr*p out of hela.
Btw i dont have purple relics. But even as tank hela. I think she can go toe to toe with summoner begetter
How about sbx for f2p in terms of pvp? 🤤😅
it's not F2P friendly..
As f2p sbx, you die faster and you kill only those other weaker f2p.
And I'm here with my soul blade 🤡🤡🤡
hahahah meanwhile the Suras crying in the corner..
I've been playing this game for a while now and I've realized I've wasted my time because there's just no way I will ever be able to beat the rich pay-to-win players...😮💨
Two p2w content creator sponsored by Gravity 🤣😂
Warning... don't let these two fool you..
Dont play this game too boring and imbalance feature like this 2 foolish dog.
dragon fist the forgetten class 😭😭
Yes RIP DF, absolutely destroyed by Saitama
best p2w support pvp?
You can ask her that in her videos to get a response. I think support is a difficult one to answer for P2W. She had made Saint the PvE choice for both P2W and F2P. I'd imagine for PvP, if you really had to choose, Saint and Chrono are the best for PvP for P2W too. Both are very popular in the meta.
Watching here with my Phantom Dancer 😭😂
One day PD will be OP! Just keep praying :)
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