Everybody is always full of praise for Johnny Cash's version of HURT but to me, nothing beats NIN's original. It's dark, grim, mind-blowing, out of this world. This whole album is just totally depressing but so incredibly good. You can only imagine, what Trent Reznor felt like when writing this. Hope he's better now.
agreed, it just (pun intended) actually hurts to listen to. it feels like the character did end up actually killing himself (due to the gunshot at the end of the title track) and this is him just reminiscing on his life 6 feet deep
Yeah, it was crazy. I spent a couple months on the couch recuperating from some broken bones, and my late brother used to say that's why I'm the way I am. I don't think so, but there's nothing wrong with exploring yourself with the help of amazing industrial music.
Agree a million percent. I was recommended the Downward Spiral on RUclips the week after my mom's passing. This album saved me and got me into Nine Inch Nails.
Ruiner and Reptile are my favorite tracks on this album. Both are so full and cinematic in the best possible ways. When I heard those tracks back in the day, my first reaction was "Trent Reznor needs to do film scores" and lo and behold, look at him now.
“How are you tonight? Having a good time? Ready to party? Have Fun? Yeah, well that was the last guys… Wrong fucking band. We’re here to have a bad time… Let’s fucking do this.” - Trent Reznor, 08/16/2013 Lowlands Festival
A Warm Place and some of the remixes on Further Down the Spiral are what got me into Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada back in the day. Ambient music can be incredible when done right.
That Aphex Twin tune on the NIN remix version of this album... yea, that led me to Aphex Twin Ambient Works Volume 2, which is just haunting kinda like NINs Quake soundtrack. Lots of beautiful stuff in the ambient genre, Brian Eno is the obvious influence there but newer artists are doing amazing stuff still
As depressing as this album is, it literally saved me as a teenager. I felt normal with all my conflicting feelings, anger, and sadness and this album offered me shared sorrow in a way it gave me hope.
Came to say something similar, when mentioning "don't listen to this album when going through a rough time", for me and a lot of others it actually helped us not going over the edge as we didn't feel so alone in these feelings anymore.
Same. Was 17 when this album dropped. This resonated with the vibrations in my head at the time. Every time I replayed it I felt like the sine waves balance and a straight line was formed
@@whelpthereitis2577 I just hope Trent realizes what he has really accomplished with his music. I really think that it has helped a lot of people. You would think that it would be the opposite and encourage these feelings but I do think it helps heal and give an outlet in an emotional path listening to his music that releases those feelings in a way so that the feelings are released in the expressions while listening so that they don't build to a critical level with disastrous results.
YESSS!!! You absolutely have to do The Fragile next, that entire first disk is genuinely flawless, I believe Trent has also said that it's essentially a sequel to The Downward Spiral
Masterpiece of an album from my favorite artist ever. Trent’s a legitimate genius. The trio of Eraser, A Warm Place, and Reptile on this album is really special, in my opinion. They just go together particularly well, somehow. Same with La Mer, The Great Below, and The Way Out is Through on The Fragile.
I’m really glad to see you enjoyed this album as much as you did, it was really enjoyable to watch your reaction the further down the spiral in the track list you got. I highly recommend checking out other NIN albums, namely their follow up to this album, The Fragile. Where I feel The Downward Spiral is a linear narrative about self hatred, violence, and self destruction, The Fragile feels more like an odyssey of agony. A lot of the subject matter on The Fragile is very similar to the downward spiral, but to me there felt an emotional distance and detachment from the person writing the lyrics on the Downward Spiral in comparison to The Fragile. (Not to say The Downward spiral is not a good emotional album, Hurt is literally perfect for that reason). The Fragile feels more poetic with a lot of repeated motifs throughout the album both musically and lyrically, as well as much more meditative and self reflective. There are definitely still plenty of industrial bangers on the track list for sure but you’ll find a lot more subdued moments on it, similar to A Warm Place. I really loved this video and I’m glad their music moved you as it did me when I first heard it.
I was about your age when I first heard this a year or so after it came out. I had no reference point for it at all. There were synths in 80's pop and power chord rock in the 90's. It was so out of left field for me that I instantly recoiled and thought it was some strange form of musical trash. Then over the coming days daydreaming in class, sections of the songs would pop in my head and play on loop totally unprompted. When I sat down again to really listen it was completely transformative. Not hyperbole at all to say that and it effected the trajectory of my life in many ways after that point. It was like putting a spotlight on something that lived in my head in some dark corner my whole life that I was hardly aware of. It opened me up to a lot of things in many subtle ways. As I hear it today, I still can't believe this thing existed. Nobody has replicated whatever that formula was, not even Trent himself. It's just so unusual and strangely perfect. I usually don't like reaction videos at all but something made me click on this and I have to say I was taken aback by the depth of your insights on first listen. Pretty fascinating.
"A warm place" is the perfect tune when you just need to softly land and take a breather, before the fall and tumble down the spiral continues. I can see your struggle and inner turmoil going through this album. It leaves you exhausted. This album and "The Fragile" got me through my depression when they came out just because I could lay my emotions bare to the music. Reznor's old work is just a black tar pit of emotions, and I love it.
Oh... When I was really little, I heard my brother playing this and it always scared me. I'm a little older now and it still scares me. Hope your Christmas was great, Dave!
Also, although I’d recommend the majority of NIN albums, you should absolutely listen to The Fragile front to back. While not as “cohesive” of a story as TDS, it’s an incredible album. My personal favorite.
27:01 One thing I've never seen mentioned is the beginning of Eraser sounds like blowing air through a reed instrument like a saxophone and tonguing the reed but not playing notes and you can hear the reed squeaking, I'm not sure how many people would know that's what that is but maybe it's fairly obvious to anyone in band. I used to play that on my saxophone in school lol.
This is the first time I’ve seen your channel and had to check out this video when I saw the title. I’m 38 and have been listening to NIN since the mid-nineties. Yes….this was probably not a super appropriate album for a ten year old girl but hey I had a fucked up childhood 😂 I LOVE when younger folks discover nin because Trent had this unique way of being so ahead of his time…yet very much reflective of his time. My oldest is 18 and has heard plenty of NIN because it’s my favorite band and sometimes he is just blown away that a particular song was created by a twenty something year old dude sitting in a shitty apartment in the 90s. And the arc of the music over the last 40 years is just incredible to experience. Trent and Atticus create music because they love to create music, period. They are hands down the best live group I’ve seen, even nowadays as sober, healthy dads they put on incredible shows. Their performances are absolute meticulously perfect yet still very real and raw.
Very similar to me. I started listening to NIN in 1993 when they did a cover of Joy Divisions’s Dead Souls. Then I went to see NIN and David Bowie when I was 10, and no band has ever had a bigger effect on me in my life. I’m 39 now, and I’ve gone through so much music in my life but NIN is is the only one that never faded. I’ve been listening for about 30 years, because I think Trent Reznor is a genius. Made me so proud when he started winning Academy Awards. I feel like it’s validation for listening for 30 years.
Im so glad that tou enjoyed The Becoming. It is probably my all time favorite Nails tune. I was lucky enough to see David Bowie sing Reptile live. Amazing moment
I always appreciated how straight to the point and simple the lyrics were in the title track. Its a very touchy subject, one that has a lot of depth, but (and not to get too sad in here, I am much much better now), when I was in that same place, my thought process was just that. Simple and blunt. It was nice to have a song represent the thought process I was having without fanciful words, as it made the connection much deeper for me, and I feel that getting too poetic about it would have taken away from its impact in this particular case. Anyways, this review was a treat to watch! I'm glad you were both amazed and disturbed by the album, I sure was when I first heard it too.
The crazy thing is that as perfect as this album is, it's not even the best NIN album. The Fragile is possibly the greatest album of all time. Whereas the downward spiral is more fictional than real, the fragile is Trent Reznor actually going through it and almost dying because of his drug abuse.
I think The Fragile being almost 40 minutes longer holds it back from being as great as The Downward Spiral. Songs like Even Deeper, Where Is Everybody?, and Starfuckers, Inc. are relatively weak IMO and bring the album down. It could probably do with a couple fewer instrumental tracks as well. Still a pretty great album overall though.
@@jd1800I think fragile had some of my more favorite songs individually (somewhat damaged as the opener omg), but I think TDS is just such an album, nothing tops it
Kid, you don't even know what it was like to listen to this in the 90s. I'm so glad you clearly listened to its raw emotions through the whole thing, and this isn't even Trent's Masterpiece. That is, in my mind, The Fragile. It's at least 2 hours long, but worth it.
Ok some sprawling interpretations of your interpretations. The expression in response to "doesn't it make you feel better" was absolutely perfect, I made the same face all those years ago. I love that you immediately clocked the "heart" of closer. "even the synth is bodily, in a way - I can tell this is gonna be gross." Thank you for articulating everything I like about the song. It's like introspecting necrosis and I love it. The morphing motifs, especially in the second half of the song - it's twisting. The Becoming: Electronic Beats To Watch The World End To. Amazing. This whole album has felt very introspective to me, and in that context it's the mental landscape, the self, Becoming that inhuman thing. Like coming out of a chrysalis, looking at yourself, and wanting to go back. Big Man with a Gun: helps me snap out of dissociation. Like if I approach it from a healthy mindset I get too hopped up on ego and power, but it's just screaming "I EXIST AND IT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOW" loud enough that it snaps me back in. Yes! Reptile is the soggiest song I've ever heard! It's the sort of song that looks back on bad relationships and says "do you really want wet socks again" The Downward Spiral (track) opens with that motif Closer closes out with then brings it back more piano-y, and I've heard different variations of it across the album... I feel like there's something to stitch together there. Suicide is the culmination of a downward spiral, and the nuance of building it in lyrics and style and repeated motif, each of which are simple enough to digest, creates a full and complex picture. Hurt: yeah, it sure does :) Sorry about this comment stretching to the proportions it has, but I had thoughts about your thoughts. I have a lot more thoughts about this album, but this is the first time I've heard someone else's. The "not reading others' interpretations on Genius" is real, it's such a personal album. Thank you for doing this review, I really liked hearing your thoughts and you articulated them well.
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for right now, this is one of my all time favourite albums from one of my all time favourite bands. This piece of art can reach so deep inside of your soul, it can hurt so much to listen to but listening to it feels somewhat freeing to me, I don't know. This album is a demented, disgusting, deprived but also so, so beautiful in such a raw way. Although no other album from NIN has storytelling as good and no other album can reach as deep as this one but they are all great, especially Pretty Hate Machine and The Fragile. You were really entertaining to watch too so thanks again
The beating that starts the album is from George Lucas' first feature film, THX-1138. Seek out Trent, Peter Murphy (Bauhaus) covering Warm Leatherette ( by the Normal). P.S. the Pigs are police. Trent lived in the house where the Manson family killed Sharon Tate and her friends. Charles Manson told the murderers to write PIGS in blood on the door and walls to stear the police to blame Black Panther Party and start a race war. Yikes! "I want to break things. I want to fuck everyone in the world" - Dave's review 😉 NIN production was top notch. No wonder Trent Reznor went into movie soundtracks.
I absolutely love seeing younger generations experiencing my favorite bands for the first time, and NIN is at the top of that list. The Downward Spiral was my first time hearing NIN as well, almost 30 years ago. That was all it took to become obsessed. It opened my mind up to sooooo much music that I never would have listened to without this album as a gateway. I owe a lot to this record, and I hope you enjoy listening to this off camera, as well!
As a depressed 90s teen - this album was how I learned music could be a balm, how letting the deep dark vibe emote could be a cleansing process and leave you finding yourself more centred than you expected - I miss this from music, I love Taylor, but it's not deep.... Art is supposed to take you deep, look at the nude self, and drink it in, accept your ugly humanity - that's art
just a note about things that seem surface level or cliche, this was 1994, and most of this was not commonplace, like being directly hostile towards religion was not a thing people did in public and having a track like heresy on the album was a big deal, even for an inner-city 12 year old kid like i was. idk, it was different time
To be fair, many albums were becoming more critical of Christianity in general around this time period, but I agree that Downward Spiral certainly helped push the boundaries of open criticism and voicing dislike of Christianity in the media of music.
Dope man! As some other people may have mentioned also, The Fragile is another album by NIN that you'd enjoy as well I feel. It's personally some of my favorite work from Trent both writing and instrumentation wise, it's so damn good
It fills my heart with JOY watching someone hear NIN for the first time..... I was a little younger when I discovered them and forever my all time favorite band EVER.... Aside from Tool (ALL of Maynard's side projects), Radiohead.... And adore Jeff Buckley..... IF you are not familiar with those bands... PLEASE listen..... INCREDIBLE 🎶..... Also A LOT of NIN fans are Tool fans and other way around...! Love your reaction! Def gonna sub outta respect!!!
Great reaction, I can highly recommend the follow up to this record "The Fragile" To answer your question about the Pig in "Piggy" it's rumored to be about Richard Patrick, he and Trent were close friends and Richard was the first Guitar Player for NIN till he left the band in 1993 or early 94. Trent was pretty hurt about it. Richard Patrick went on to start the band Filter. Also Nine inch nails is technically not a band it's just Trent Reznor till 2016 when Atticus Ross (who he scores films with) joint him but he's more on a production side then actually writing.
@@nonamecha0s284 he started working with Trent on Nine inch nails stuff for With Teeth in 2004,that is true.(With Teeth was released in 2005) but he's an official member of Nine inch nails since 2016
@@johnmurphy4781 I think there is no official answer to this, could also be the case, that's why I said rumored. Richard Patrick talked multiple times about it. But I guess we never really will know 100% what the song is about.
hands done best reaction video. Good quality, good editing, perfect interpretation. I hope to see more NIN! I reccomend the broken EP which was right before this one.
The Fragile might be my favorite. A bit long winded, but really good stuff. Im a bit biased since it was the first album I heard from them about 6 years back.
This album is a definitely a high point in 90s culture and much of material was written and recorded at the same house where the Sharon Tate murders took place. I went to one of the shows of the subsequent tour that followed its release. The lineup featured Marilyn Manson and the Jim Rose Circus (a non musical group of sideshow performers) as the opening acts. NIИ was still a relatively small band when the tour started, but as the popularity of the album grew, so did their fame as well as Reznor’s bank account. The backstage environment for the shows was like a big party each night, with Reznor and Manson both trying to outdo the other in terms of intoxication and debauchery. By the end of the tour, NIИ were household names and both Reznor and Manson had serious drug problems. Thoroughly in the grips of drug addiction and reeling from the recent death of his grandmother who had raised him, Reznor rented a house all to himself on the ocean cliffs of Big Sur, CA to write and record his next album, The Fragile. An hour away from the closest town, the isolation, the sadness, and the drugs all became too much for him to deal with. In an interview he gave years later, after finally beating his addiction (thanks in part to help from David Bowie, who had gone through a similar path in life in the 70s and 80s), Reznor said the following ‘10 years ago, I locked myself away in a house on the ocean, and I tried to... I said I was trying to write some music. But what I was really doing was trying to kill myself.’
Please react to ‘Pretty Hate Machine’. I hung in for this whole vid cuz you we’re good at the sonic art review. I’m 48 and grew up with NIN since the 80’s. Misunderstood then and now. I’m a lyrics guy. But there’s a lot to unpack there sonically. You’re better at that than I am. FWIW… NIN is just one guy. There is no band until he needs to play live. Trent Reznor (NIN) is also one of the most prolific soundtrack producers for movies and games. And I’m surprised you didn’t reference the Johnny Cash version of “Hurt”.
One of the classic industrial records…Trent ran so Model/Actriz could spazz. You should listen to Johnny Cash covering Hurt, but only if you want to be in your feels. He recorded it when he was at death’s door. Great reaction💕
I'm in my mid 40's now, but I listened to this album almost daily during middle school back in the 90's. It does a lot to explain why Gen X is the way it is. The music of our youth shaped our attitudes, even 3 decades later.
Great reaction! I hold this album close to my heart. An equally amazing Industrial Rock album produced by Trent Reznor would be "Antichrist Superstar" imo. Marilyn Manson is a scumbag tho... I also really love the latest stuff by NIN i.e. the trilogy of EPs that are "Not the actual events", "Add Violence" and "Bad Witch". They are superb and Trent really still got it.
My favorite artist and album ever. There aren't any bad NIN albums so don't worry if you get differing recommendations. Nice that you appreciated a lot of stuff others miss. Keep up listening to artsy dark alt experimental artists like NIN and the like (e.g., Radiohead, Slowdive, Broadcast, Portishead)
The album came out when I was ten years old, and my brother was a huge NIN fan. He took me with him to the record store to buy it. Then we sat in his truck and listened to the whole thing before we went back home. This album completely changed my life. It changed the way I saw the world, and thought about myself. Still to this day I listen to this album at least once every month or two. I relate so much to his portrayal of the character Mr. Self Destruct. I spent the last twenty years of my life in the pit of addiction and self hatred. I've been sober for a few years now, and listening to this album from my point of view now is insane compared to the ten year old me, and the full blown addict me. It is a beautiful and twisted story of a man struggling with the Ruiner, his drug addiction, and the real him trapped inside. Watching you experience it all for the first time was a good time haha. Stay away from drugs, kid.
Great analysis. I was about your age when I first heard this record when it came out in 1994 and it destroyed me in the best way possible. It's a masterpiece and I've always said that this record created as many problems for me as it solved. I hold it dear to my heart as a pure confessional dirge, it's hard to find artists being this vulnerable and open these days. It's brutal honesty on a scarred slab of shit and piss. If this is your jam then I highly recommend listening to The Cure's "Pornography" (I know you hated Seventeen Seconds, but Trent Reznor regularly said Pornography was one of the major influences for Nine Inch Nails)
Not sure if someone has already commented, this album was recorded in the Manson Murder House, so the term 'Pig' was used a lot throughout the album as I'm pretty sure that 'Pig' was written in blood at the scene. Horrendous reference, but there we go.
"Music to listen to the end of the world to." I would HIGHLY recommend NIN's "Year Zero" album which is conceptually about...the end of the world. Fantastic beginning to end.
"This is music to watch the world end to." -- Dude that is EXACTLY what I said when I first heard this album when it was released in 1994. And that's exactly why I fell in love with this music. You should listen to NIN's "Burn" from the Natural Born Killers soundtrack -- the day I heard it on the radio was the moment my life changed forever. First thing I said when I first heard Burn: "Wow, this music is the future."
17:00 You wonder if its clique? Thats fair. Have you considered that this was the album that created the clique, or, perhaps, put the clique to shame with its desoerate honesty. Rather than a crying out for help, could this album be THE DEFINITIVE crying of help.. of need?
When I hears this album, I was a mess of a child. Screaming internally for a world that was too much. And Trent gave me a story to go with that struggle. It didn't have a positive ending because at the time. I wasn't looking for one. Great review. I think you got an understanding of what he was trying to say. Also, at the time. We didn't have a lot of depth in most artists, it was fluff, bubble gum and death metal. So this was a welcome experience.
Ministry. Skinny Puppy. Throbbing Gristle. Psychic TV. Appreciate yr (Gen-Z? Pick yr current fave lofl...) fresh input on this album/genre... thx, man!
Listened to it on hundreds of occasions and for some reason your cuts jumping around still kinda pissed me off Also when taking in art thats from a different time consider the market wasnt so saturated because every kid and there mother has access to fruity loops and can download or stream any obscure thing on the internet. In 94 you had to go buy the cd or vinyl. You saw closer on mtv and thats it. Or the radio. Just saying because i wouldnt call any of this cliche considering its 30 years old.
They're not a band, it's all the work of one man, Trent Reznor. :) Other artists contribute to the work, like Dave Grohl recording some drums on The Fragile, Adrian Belew, Chris Vrenna, Danny Lohner on TDS...
fun fact: NIN mixes their albums in dolby. Especialyy on Ruiner you get the haunting sound of "the ruiner" entering the through the back of your head. Awesome stuff.
I just watched this +I’m now worried about u! Don’t be depressed, reading the lyrics can be a bit much. Every song is about drugs, even Closer. Hurt is quite uplifting because at the end he wishes he could start again never having started, that’s where (hopefully) the listener is at. It’s not over, we can still make a choice. We didn’t go down that spiral with him. It’s also amazing to dance to in a club with lots of dry ice, goth and industrial tunes. (Yeah I’m old) Maybe try Ministry, dark but fun. Non apologetic drugged up maniac but heart of gold Al Jorgensen is brilliant and their side projects such class, like the cover of ‘do u think in sexy’ 💜🦇
The Downward Spiral is one of the few great concept albums. Its ambition is only superseded by its delivery. It’s not one of my favorite albums; however, it’s very difficult not to appreciate it.
5:07 pig could also be a cop. Derogatory I know but um.................................................................... that can happen sometimessssssss ***eta trent said in an interview that he wanted to move away from the "techno"y type of songs he's done and wanted to make more music with the factor of ACTUAL instruments (less synthetic/computer sounds and implement the live nature of "real" instruments" which is why I feel like piggy went haywire at the end. He said it more eloquently tho lol ***he also sang about addiction a lott ***antiestablishmentarianism - the man with a big gun is uncle sam. Theres a lot of um... anti gov stuff in here. I always felt he was singing it from a place of contempt, not stepping into the shoes of... yk?
Fellow Industrialist here, you have just discovered one of the greatest albums of all time. There is only one other album which beats this for NIN and that is With Teeth. This is my 3rd favorite band of all time please do more I have subbed. Also, if you haven't already dude don't miss out on a band that sounds just like them. His main inspiration is this album and this band, the name of my friend's band is called Grand Folly (Album is The Noble Rot) Favorite tracks: Ruiner & Reptile
Great reaction and review. If you want another similar kind of album (industrial concept album), check out the new Spoils of Grace album "Suffer Long" and listen to it end to end.
Also on Heresy (God diss track LOL!!!) When the album was made it was a controversial song and not a theme as played out as it is now.... Also as a diehard fan... I don't where the "Pig" thing originated for sure but, it's kinda just become a thing... Like at his concerts he will say "Hey pigs" so in that way it's become a term of endearment lol.....
Their comeback album after a long layoff, "With Teeth" is also worth checking out,. I am biased though NIN are one of my all time fave bands. Also for industrial on the more metal end of the spectrum check out Fear Factory "Demanufacture"
All of the Pig references are directly related to where the album was written and recorded, which is the house where Sharon Tate and 4 other people were brutally butchered by the Manson Family in August of 1969. In those murders, if you aren’t familiar with it, “Piggy” and “Death to Pigs” was written on the walls/doors with the blood of the victims. I’m sure living for 2+ years in a place with such a dark history had an effect on the songs/album.
One thing that always gets me with this album is knowing that is was mainly made by just one person (Trent Reznor) because NIN wasn't really a band (until 2016) because trent was the only official member and he worked on this project alone. its amazing how one person could write all the lyrics and music so perfectly to make such a phenomenal album.
Thats crazy. I always felt the first four tracks were just greats songs on an album but once you get to Closer its something different, some sonic journey that shouldn't be interrupted. Its cool to hear someone else have a similar experience.
Awesome channel! 😃 Great stuff! I hope you got inspired to listen to more NIN in the future 😄 I'd suggest also Health's album Slaves of Fear for a similar sort of soundscape ❤
This would be watchable if you didn't chop it.. maybe make part 1 part 2 so there not to long. Hard to watch with chopped audio Also take into context when this album was made. It was revolutionary and original. He made it on his own and hired people to play live. Reznor is an underrated artis..
You should really look into how Trent wrote this album, he left his old record label, started his own label "Nothing records", rented Sharon Tates house she was murdered in to write this album, I'm pretty sure Trent wrote and played almost every instrument on the album, and has had an extremely prestigious in music ever since going to to win a Grammy for a movie score, and CEO of Apple music
He was on heavy drugs on this album...his gardener got murdered by a crackhead and he quit drugs. Why his music changed after this album. Saw them in concert...lovely band
to me the ending of hurt is so profound, its kind of a triumph over death, 'if i could start again, a million miles away, I would keep myself, i would find a way" its almost like him accepting death, by not accepting it, don't how it works, Trent's a damn genius, i just have ears
"there's gotta be sample work here" Bro. You have no idea. On their first album there's a track where they used kids beating on the hide of a dead elephant. On this album "eraser" uses a car door slamming in a parking garage as the bass drum. But it's like 90% sampling and a very small part actual instruments. You mentioned it being cliche, you gotta remember this album came out in 94 I think? Pretty hate machine was late 80s I belive. Trent started this movement in this genre.
I really don't think he won the battle, to me, Eraser is him deciding to do it, hurt is him writing the suicid3 note and the abrupt harsh guitar that made you jump at the end is the gun going off...and after that is a void of nothing.....have a nice day.
I know you say obvious vocals/lyrics, but back when it came out, it was a total mood for the misunderstood and 'woke' sad/mad souls. there wasn't a plethora of emo bands and no MCR topping the charts.
Was cool to get your thoughts on this album. Im in total agreement with you that it does an excellent job of building a world through sound( a twisted, dark world, but still). Ironically I dont revisit it much at all for that reason. Its kinda like the 'Requiem for a Dream' of music. Still, i consider a classic album. If you decide to do more NIN, please check out The Fragile, the followup to this. While still relatively dark, its nowhere near as crushing as TDS, and the soundscapes are on par with this, quite possibly better. Thanks for uploading
Superficial? Too much on the nose? This is your first listening to this masterpiece. It is a high art concept album, you have to listen to the entire album from start to finish. You will not understand this album at the hundred listening much less the first listening. If you've never experienced pain, suffering, depression, internal conflicts regarding religion, morals, bullying, sex addiction, drug abuse, etc. Then you may never understand it. He is a sonic and lyrical savant. If you don't get it, it's because you're not capable of getting it.
Was recorded in Benedict Canyon, Los Angeles. the site of the murder of actress Sharon Tate by members of the Manson Family in 1969 was transformed into a studio.
Everybody is always full of praise for Johnny Cash's version of HURT but to me, nothing beats NIN's original. It's dark, grim, mind-blowing, out of this world. This whole album is just totally depressing but so incredibly good. You can only imagine, what Trent Reznor felt like when writing this. Hope he's better now.
agreed, it just (pun intended) actually hurts to listen to. it feels like the character did end up actually killing himself (due to the gunshot at the end of the title track) and this is him just reminiscing on his life 6 feet deep
Yeah, it was crazy. I spent a couple months on the couch recuperating from some broken bones, and my late brother used to say that's why I'm the way I am. I don't think so, but there's nothing wrong with exploring yourself with the help of amazing industrial music.
Reznor is doing so much better, turned things around by about 2000.
The utter sadness and despair in Trent's version can't be topped. It came from such a real place of utter brokenness.
Agree a million percent. I was recommended the Downward Spiral on RUclips the week after my mom's passing. This album saved me and got me into Nine Inch Nails.
Once you get past Ruiner on this album, you hit the point of no return. Truly a masterpiece.
Ruiner and Reptile are my favorite tracks on this album. Both are so full and cinematic in the best possible ways. When I heard those tracks back in the day, my first reaction was "Trent Reznor needs to do film scores" and lo and behold, look at him now.
💯 There's no turning back after Ruiner.
@@tomh1138 Ruiner is probably the best song hand down.mmmmmmmm synth Trumpets
As good as industrial rock gets, truly life changing piece of art
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I feel Frontline Assembly is superior Nin second
“How are you tonight? Having a good time? Ready to party? Have Fun? Yeah, well that was the last guys… Wrong fucking band. We’re here to have a bad time… Let’s fucking do this.”
- Trent Reznor, 08/16/2013 Lowlands Festival
Seeing people's reaction videos to 'Closer' is one of my favourite RUclips rabbit holes
'The Fragile" is another banger of an album from them.
Absolutely, my favourite album of all time.
@@barchel Not my favorite of all time, but definitely my favorite of NIN
@@FunkyHonkyCDXX Pretty sure this one lands in my top 10 all time records
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@@sandromenabde8320 Trent and Atticus *acshually*
The opening of the Closer music video has a literal heart beating, so yes I think it was intentional to sound like that
I was going to say he should definitely watch the video since he picked up on that. Infamously one of MTV's most controversial music videos
Some trivia - the opening drum beat is a heavily modified sample of Iggy Pop - Nightclubbing
Absolutely harrowing, crushing, explicit, vulgar, and yet its also funky, groovy, catchy, intricate and captivating. Its like auditory BDSM.
Auditory BDSM is a great NIN definition
A Warm Place really struck me as a teen, really gave me a deep fascination of ambient tones.
My buddy rapped to that without adding any drums... Just the ambience. Strange guy with sick rhymes.
A Warm Place and some of the remixes on Further Down the Spiral are what got me into Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada back in the day. Ambient music can be incredible when done right.
That Aphex Twin tune on the NIN remix version of this album... yea, that led me to Aphex Twin Ambient Works Volume 2, which is just haunting kinda like NINs Quake soundtrack. Lots of beautiful stuff in the ambient genre, Brian Eno is the obvious influence there but newer artists are doing amazing stuff still
If you are unaware A Warm Place is basically a cover of Crystal Japan by Bowie
Classic album. Pure mental breakdown music. Love it
As depressing as this album is, it literally saved me as a teenager. I felt normal with all my conflicting feelings, anger, and sadness and this album offered me shared sorrow in a way it gave me hope.
Came to say something similar, when mentioning "don't listen to this album when going through a rough time", for me and a lot of others it actually helped us not going over the edge as we didn't feel so alone in these feelings anymore.
Yes!
Catharsis in the form of music, connecting and not feeling alone. It really was such a helpful and beneficial album.
Same. Was 17 when this album dropped. This resonated with the vibrations in my head at the time. Every time I replayed it I felt like the sine waves balance and a straight line was formed
@@whelpthereitis2577 I just hope Trent realizes what he has really accomplished with his music. I really think that it has helped a lot of people. You would think that it would be the opposite and encourage these feelings but I do think it helps heal and give an outlet in an emotional path listening to his music that releases those feelings in a way so that the feelings are released in the expressions while listening so that they don't build to a critical level with disastrous results.
YESSS!!! You absolutely have to do The Fragile next, that entire first disk is genuinely flawless, I believe Trent has also said that it's essentially a sequel to The Downward Spiral
Masterpiece of an album from my favorite artist ever. Trent’s a legitimate genius.
The trio of Eraser, A Warm Place, and Reptile on this album is really special, in my opinion. They just go together particularly well, somehow.
Same with La Mer, The Great Below, and The Way Out is Through on The Fragile.
Totally agree. I would also add The Frail/The Wretched/We're In this Together Now/The Fragile as a fantastic grouping or songs.
This album is a fucking masterpiece. Great watching you react to it mate, TY
I’m really glad to see you enjoyed this album as much as you did, it was really enjoyable to watch your reaction the further down the spiral in the track list you got. I highly recommend checking out other NIN albums, namely their follow up to this album, The Fragile. Where I feel The Downward Spiral is a linear narrative about self hatred, violence, and self destruction, The Fragile feels more like an odyssey of agony. A lot of the subject matter on The Fragile is very similar to the downward spiral, but to me there felt an emotional distance and detachment from the person writing the lyrics on the Downward Spiral in comparison to The Fragile. (Not to say The Downward spiral is not a good emotional album, Hurt is literally perfect for that reason). The Fragile feels more poetic with a lot of repeated motifs throughout the album both musically and lyrically, as well as much more meditative and self reflective. There are definitely still plenty of industrial bangers on the track list for sure but you’ll find a lot more subdued moments on it, similar to A Warm Place. I really loved this video and I’m glad their music moved you as it did me when I first heard it.
I was about your age when I first heard this a year or so after it came out. I had no reference point for it at all. There were synths in 80's pop and power chord rock in the 90's. It was so out of left field for me that I instantly recoiled and thought it was some strange form of musical trash.
Then over the coming days daydreaming in class, sections of the songs would pop in my head and play on loop totally unprompted. When I sat down again to really listen it was completely transformative. Not hyperbole at all to say that and it effected the trajectory of my life in many ways after that point. It was like putting a spotlight on something that lived in my head in some dark corner my whole life that I was hardly aware of. It opened me up to a lot of things in many subtle ways.
As I hear it today, I still can't believe this thing existed. Nobody has replicated whatever that formula was, not even Trent himself. It's just so unusual and strangely perfect. I usually don't like reaction videos at all but something made me click on this and I have to say I was taken aback by the depth of your insights on first listen. Pretty fascinating.
"A warm place" is the perfect tune when you just need to softly land and take a breather, before the fall and tumble down the spiral continues. I can see your struggle and inner turmoil going through this album. It leaves you exhausted. This album and "The Fragile" got me through my depression when they came out just because I could lay my emotions bare to the music.
Reznor's old work is just a black tar pit of emotions, and I love it.
Oh... When I was really little, I heard my brother playing this and it always scared me. I'm a little older now and it still scares me. Hope your Christmas was great, Dave!
Merry late Christmas!
Also, although I’d recommend the majority of NIN albums, you should absolutely listen to The Fragile front to back. While not as “cohesive” of a story as TDS, it’s an incredible album. My personal favorite.
27:01 One thing I've never seen mentioned is the beginning of Eraser sounds like blowing air through a reed instrument like a saxophone and tonguing the reed but not playing notes and you can hear the reed squeaking, I'm not sure how many people would know that's what that is but maybe it's fairly obvious to anyone in band. I used to play that on my saxophone in school lol.
You've never seen that mentioned? He even used to use a saxophone reed live on stage.
@@marksavage8052 I haven't, and have only seen a live show once a long time ago on DVD. Maybe it's more common knowledge than I think it is.
thats dope thanks for the info
This is the first time I’ve seen your channel and had to check out this video when I saw the title. I’m 38 and have been listening to NIN since the mid-nineties. Yes….this was probably not a super appropriate album for a ten year old girl but hey I had a fucked up childhood 😂 I LOVE when younger folks discover nin because Trent had this unique way of being so ahead of his time…yet very much reflective of his time. My oldest is 18 and has heard plenty of NIN because it’s my favorite band and sometimes he is just blown away that a particular song was created by a twenty something year old dude sitting in a shitty apartment in the 90s. And the arc of the music over the last 40 years is just incredible to experience. Trent and Atticus create music because they love to create music, period. They are hands down the best live group I’ve seen, even nowadays as sober, healthy dads they put on incredible shows. Their performances are absolute meticulously perfect yet still very real and raw.
Very similar to me. I started listening to NIN in 1993 when they did a cover of Joy Divisions’s Dead Souls. Then I went to see NIN and David Bowie when I was 10, and no band has ever had a bigger effect on me in my life. I’m 39 now, and I’ve gone through so much music in my life but NIN is is the only one that never faded. I’ve been listening for about 30 years, because I think Trent Reznor is a genius. Made me so proud when he started winning Academy Awards. I feel like it’s validation for listening for 30 years.
Im so glad that tou enjoyed The Becoming. It is probably my all time favorite Nails tune. I was lucky enough to see David Bowie sing Reptile live. Amazing moment
Bro should do more Nine Inch Nails. With Teeth is my favourite album
"Basically a god diss track...I'm here for it." Love this so much hahaahahaa
I always appreciated how straight to the point and simple the lyrics were in the title track. Its a very touchy subject, one that has a lot of depth, but (and not to get too sad in here, I am much much better now), when I was in that same place, my thought process was just that. Simple and blunt. It was nice to have a song represent the thought process I was having without fanciful words, as it made the connection much deeper for me, and I feel that getting too poetic about it would have taken away from its impact in this particular case.
Anyways, this review was a treat to watch! I'm glad you were both amazed and disturbed by the album, I sure was when I first heard it too.
The crazy thing is that as perfect as this album is, it's not even the best NIN album. The Fragile is possibly the greatest album of all time. Whereas the downward spiral is more fictional than real, the fragile is Trent Reznor actually going through it and almost dying because of his drug abuse.
Yeah, please check out The Fragile
I think The Fragile being almost 40 minutes longer holds it back from being as great as The Downward Spiral. Songs like Even Deeper, Where Is Everybody?, and Starfuckers, Inc. are relatively weak IMO and bring the album down. It could probably do with a couple fewer instrumental tracks as well. Still a pretty great album overall though.
@@jd1800I think fragile had some of my more favorite songs individually (somewhat damaged as the opener omg), but I think TDS is just such an album, nothing tops it
The Downward Spiral has the better individual songs but The Fragile is better as a 2-hour listen.
you should do The Fragile as well, arguably their best
Kid, you don't even know what it was like to listen to this in the 90s. I'm so glad you clearly listened to its raw emotions through the whole thing, and this isn't even Trent's Masterpiece. That is, in my mind, The Fragile. It's at least 2 hours long, but worth it.
Ok some sprawling interpretations of your interpretations.
The expression in response to "doesn't it make you feel better" was absolutely perfect, I made the same face all those years ago.
I love that you immediately clocked the "heart" of closer. "even the synth is bodily, in a way - I can tell this is gonna be gross." Thank you for articulating everything I like about the song. It's like introspecting necrosis and I love it. The morphing motifs, especially in the second half of the song - it's twisting.
The Becoming: Electronic Beats To Watch The World End To. Amazing. This whole album has felt very introspective to me, and in that context it's the mental landscape, the self, Becoming that inhuman thing. Like coming out of a chrysalis, looking at yourself, and wanting to go back.
Big Man with a Gun: helps me snap out of dissociation. Like if I approach it from a healthy mindset I get too hopped up on ego and power, but it's just screaming "I EXIST AND IT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOW" loud enough that it snaps me back in.
Yes! Reptile is the soggiest song I've ever heard! It's the sort of song that looks back on bad relationships and says "do you really want wet socks again"
The Downward Spiral (track) opens with that motif Closer closes out with then brings it back more piano-y, and I've heard different variations of it across the album... I feel like there's something to stitch together there. Suicide is the culmination of a downward spiral, and the nuance of building it in lyrics and style and repeated motif, each of which are simple enough to digest, creates a full and complex picture.
Hurt: yeah, it sure does :)
Sorry about this comment stretching to the proportions it has, but I had thoughts about your thoughts. I have a lot more thoughts about this album, but this is the first time I've heard someone else's. The "not reading others' interpretations on Genius" is real, it's such a personal album. Thank you for doing this review, I really liked hearing your thoughts and you articulated them well.
This album is slowly becoming my favorite album of all time
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for right now, this is one of my all time favourite albums from one of my all time favourite bands. This piece of art can reach so deep inside of your soul, it can hurt so much to listen to but listening to it feels somewhat freeing to me, I don't know. This album is a demented, disgusting, deprived but also so, so beautiful in such a raw way. Although no other album from NIN has storytelling as good and no other album can reach as deep as this one but they are all great, especially Pretty Hate Machine and The Fragile. You were really entertaining to watch too so thanks again
The beating that starts the album is from George Lucas' first feature film, THX-1138. Seek out Trent, Peter Murphy (Bauhaus) covering Warm Leatherette ( by the Normal). P.S. the Pigs are police. Trent lived in the house where the Manson family killed Sharon Tate and her friends. Charles Manson told the murderers to write PIGS in blood on the door and walls to stear the police to blame Black Panther Party and start a race war. Yikes! "I want to break things. I want to fuck everyone in the world" - Dave's review 😉 NIN production was top notch. No wonder Trent Reznor went into movie soundtracks.
I absolutely love seeing younger generations experiencing my favorite bands for the first time, and NIN is at the top of that list. The Downward Spiral was my first time hearing NIN as well, almost 30 years ago. That was all it took to become obsessed. It opened my mind up to sooooo much music that I never would have listened to without this album as a gateway. I owe a lot to this record, and I hope you enjoy listening to this off camera, as well!
As a depressed 90s teen - this album was how I learned music could be a balm, how letting the deep dark vibe emote could be a cleansing process and leave you finding yourself more centred than you expected - I miss this from music, I love Taylor, but it's not deep.... Art is supposed to take you deep, look at the nude self, and drink it in, accept your ugly humanity - that's art
just a note about things that seem surface level or cliche, this was 1994, and most of this was not commonplace, like being directly hostile towards religion was not a thing people did in public and having a track like heresy on the album was a big deal, even for an inner-city 12 year old kid like i was. idk, it was different time
To be fair, many albums were becoming more critical of Christianity in general around this time period, but I agree that Downward Spiral certainly helped push the boundaries of open criticism and voicing dislike of Christianity in the media of music.
Great reaction vid. You should definitely do "The Fragile".
I'm convinced that this album is a magic spell
Dope man! As some other people may have mentioned also, The Fragile is another album by NIN that you'd enjoy as well I feel. It's personally some of my favorite work from Trent both writing and instrumentation wise, it's so damn good
It fills my heart with JOY watching someone hear NIN for the first time..... I was a little younger when I discovered them and forever my all time favorite band EVER.... Aside from Tool (ALL of Maynard's side projects), Radiohead.... And adore Jeff Buckley..... IF you are not familiar with those bands... PLEASE listen..... INCREDIBLE 🎶..... Also A LOT of NIN fans are Tool fans and other way around...! Love your reaction! Def gonna sub outta respect!!!
DO NOTTTTT listen to the fragile on psychedelics 🤣🤣🤣
Great reaction, I can highly recommend the follow up to this record "The Fragile"
To answer your question about the Pig in "Piggy" it's rumored to be about Richard Patrick, he and Trent were close friends and Richard was the first Guitar Player for NIN till he left the band in 1993 or early 94. Trent was pretty hurt about it. Richard Patrick went on to start the band Filter.
Also Nine inch nails is technically not a band it's just Trent Reznor till 2016 when Atticus Ross (who he scores films with) joint him but he's more on a production side then actually writing.
2016? He joined in like 2001 on With Teeth
@@nonamecha0s284 he started working with Trent on Nine inch nails stuff for With Teeth in 2004,that is true.(With Teeth was released in 2005) but he's an official member of Nine inch nails since 2016
It's Pig a reference to Manson, since they recorded at least a bit of this at the tate mansion ?
@@johnmurphy4781 I think there is no official answer to this, could also be the case, that's why I said rumored.
Richard Patrick talked multiple times about it.
But I guess we never really will know 100% what the song is about.
What about Fink?! I know he's a touring musician, but he's been with the band since what, 1991'ish?
hands done best reaction video. Good quality, good editing, perfect interpretation. I hope to see more NIN!
I reccomend the broken EP which was right before this one.
glad you liked it!
The Fragile might be my favorite. A bit long winded, but really good stuff. Im a bit biased since it was the first album I heard from them about 6 years back.
This album is a definitely a high point in 90s culture and much of material was written and recorded at the same house where the Sharon Tate murders took place. I went to one of the shows of the subsequent tour that followed its release. The lineup featured Marilyn Manson and the Jim Rose Circus (a non musical group of sideshow performers) as the opening acts.
NIИ was still a relatively small band when the tour started, but as the popularity of the album grew, so did their fame as well as Reznor’s bank account. The backstage environment for the shows was like a big party each night, with Reznor and Manson both trying to outdo the other in terms of intoxication and debauchery. By the end of the tour, NIИ were household names and both Reznor and Manson had serious drug problems.
Thoroughly in the grips of drug addiction and reeling from the recent death of his grandmother who had raised him, Reznor rented a house all to himself on the ocean cliffs of Big Sur, CA to write and record his next album, The Fragile. An hour away from the closest town, the isolation, the sadness, and the drugs all became too much for him to deal with.
In an interview he gave years later, after finally beating his addiction (thanks in part to help from David Bowie, who had gone through a similar path in life in the 70s and 80s), Reznor said the following ‘10 years ago, I locked myself away in a house on the ocean, and I tried to... I said I was trying to write some music. But what I was really doing was trying to kill myself.’
I wish you could have experienced it 30 years ago when there was nothing like this that we had ever heard before. It was legitimately life-changing
Please react to ‘Pretty Hate Machine’. I hung in for this whole vid cuz you we’re good at the sonic art review. I’m 48 and grew up with NIN since the 80’s. Misunderstood then and now. I’m a lyrics guy. But there’s a lot to unpack there sonically. You’re better at that than I am. FWIW… NIN is just one guy. There is no band until he needs to play live. Trent Reznor (NIN) is also one of the most prolific soundtrack producers for movies and games. And I’m surprised you didn’t reference the Johnny Cash version of “Hurt”.
Oh hey, great album 👌
Loved this record growing up. Anything 'The Fragile' and prior are all a favourite.
Trent is a dark but brilliant artist!
I absolutely loved watching his journey through my favorite album of all time. Hope he becomes a fan ❤
this album had such an effect on me as a teen in the 90s. beautiful. haunting.
One of the classic industrial records…Trent ran so Model/Actriz could spazz.
You should listen to Johnny Cash covering Hurt, but only if you want to be in your feels. He recorded it when he was at death’s door.
Great reaction💕
I'm in my mid 40's now, but I listened to this album almost daily during middle school back in the 90's. It does a lot to explain why Gen X is the way it is. The music of our youth shaped our attitudes, even 3 decades later.
Great reaction! I hold this album close to my heart. An equally amazing Industrial Rock album produced by Trent Reznor would be "Antichrist Superstar" imo. Marilyn Manson is a scumbag tho...
I also really love the latest stuff by NIN i.e. the trilogy of EPs that are "Not the actual events", "Add Violence" and "Bad Witch". They are superb and Trent really still got it.
My favorite artist and album ever. There aren't any bad NIN albums so don't worry if you get differing recommendations. Nice that you appreciated a lot of stuff others miss. Keep up listening to artsy dark alt experimental artists like NIN and the like (e.g., Radiohead, Slowdive, Broadcast, Portishead)
The man is a genius. Check out his film scores
The album came out when I was ten years old, and my brother was a huge NIN fan. He took me with him to the record store to buy it. Then we sat in his truck and listened to the whole thing before we went back home. This album completely changed my life. It changed the way I saw the world, and thought about myself. Still to this day I listen to this album at least once every month or two. I relate so much to his portrayal of the character Mr. Self Destruct. I spent the last twenty years of my life in the pit of addiction and self hatred. I've been sober for a few years now, and listening to this album from my point of view now is insane compared to the ten year old me, and the full blown addict me. It is a beautiful and twisted story of a man struggling with the Ruiner, his drug addiction, and the real him trapped inside.
Watching you experience it all for the first time was a good time haha. Stay away from drugs, kid.
Great analysis. I was about your age when I first heard this record when it came out in 1994 and it destroyed me in the best way possible. It's a masterpiece and I've always said that this record created as many problems for me as it solved. I hold it dear to my heart as a pure confessional dirge, it's hard to find artists being this vulnerable and open these days. It's brutal honesty on a scarred slab of shit and piss.
If this is your jam then I highly recommend listening to The Cure's "Pornography" (I know you hated Seventeen Seconds, but Trent Reznor regularly said Pornography was one of the major influences for Nine Inch Nails)
Not sure if someone has already commented, this album was recorded in the Manson Murder House, so the term 'Pig' was used a lot throughout the album as I'm pretty sure that 'Pig' was written in blood at the scene. Horrendous reference, but there we go.
"Music to listen to the end of the world to." I would HIGHLY recommend NIN's "Year Zero" album which is conceptually about...the end of the world. Fantastic beginning to end.
24:48 You did the worst thing you could have done. The next song NEEDS to be heard IMMEDIATELY after Big Man With a Gun
If post-nut clarity was a track.
The opening “beating” is from George Lucas 1st Sci Fi film “THX 1138
Nobody ever heard anything like this before Trent. Reznors entire Discography feels like one big story including his later Ghosts stuff.
"This is music to watch the world end to." -- Dude that is EXACTLY what I said when I first heard this album when it was released in 1994. And that's exactly why I fell in love with this music.
You should listen to NIN's "Burn" from the Natural Born Killers soundtrack -- the day I heard it on the radio was the moment my life changed forever.
First thing I said when I first heard Burn: "Wow, this music is the future."
Next classic alternative album... BIG BLACK - ATOMIZER
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You wonder if its clique? Thats fair.
Have you considered that this was the album that created the clique, or, perhaps, put the clique to shame with its desoerate honesty.
Rather than a crying out for help, could this album be THE DEFINITIVE crying of help.. of need?
Please react to The Fragile, I'm sure you'd love it too
When I hears this album, I was a mess of a child. Screaming internally for a world that was too much. And Trent gave me a story to go with that struggle. It didn't have a positive ending because at the time. I wasn't looking for one.
Great review. I think you got an understanding of what he was trying to say. Also, at the time. We didn't have a lot of depth in most artists, it was fluff, bubble gum and death metal. So this was a welcome experience.
Ministry. Skinny Puppy. Throbbing Gristle. Psychic TV.
Appreciate yr (Gen-Z? Pick yr current fave lofl...) fresh input on this album/genre... thx, man!
Give David Bowie's "Earthling" a shot, it was made around his tour with NIN
the *david bowie* track _crystal japan_ is worth checking out if you like _a warm place._
Listened to it on hundreds of occasions and for some reason your cuts jumping around still kinda pissed me off
Also when taking in art thats from a different time consider the market wasnt so saturated because every kid and there mother has access to fruity loops and can download or stream any obscure thing on the internet. In 94 you had to go buy the cd or vinyl. You saw closer on mtv and thats it. Or the radio. Just saying because i wouldnt call any of this cliche considering its 30 years old.
Incredible album.
WARNING ⚠️: be careful driving while listening to this.
They're not a band, it's all the work of one man, Trent Reznor. :) Other artists contribute to the work, like Dave Grohl recording some drums on The Fragile, Adrian Belew, Chris Vrenna, Danny Lohner on TDS...
fun fact:
NIN mixes their albums in dolby. Especialyy on Ruiner you get the haunting sound of "the ruiner" entering the through the back of your head.
Awesome stuff.
Great vid, next you should do a follow up to this album, "The Fragile". "With Teeth" is also fantastic album, probably my favourite
Sure is interesting watching younger generations listen to and dissect the music from my Gen. :-)
I just watched this +I’m now worried about u! Don’t be depressed, reading the lyrics can be a bit much. Every song is about drugs, even Closer. Hurt is quite uplifting because at the end he wishes he could start again never having started, that’s where (hopefully) the listener is at. It’s not over, we can still make a choice. We didn’t go down that spiral with him.
It’s also amazing to dance to in a club with lots of dry ice, goth and industrial tunes. (Yeah I’m old)
Maybe try Ministry, dark but fun. Non apologetic drugged up maniac but heart of gold Al Jorgensen is brilliant and their side projects such class, like the cover of ‘do u think in sexy’ 💜🦇
The Downward Spiral is one of the few great concept albums. Its ambition is only superseded by its delivery. It’s not one of my favorite albums; however, it’s very difficult not to appreciate it.
Fun fact: The drum beat in “Closer” is sampled from Iggy Pop’s “Nightclubbing”.
Just wait 'til you get to The Fragile and Year Zero and The Slip albums, dude. You'll never leave NIN :D
5:07 pig could also be a cop. Derogatory I know but um.................................................................... that can happen sometimessssssss ***eta trent said in an interview that he wanted to move away from the "techno"y type of songs he's done and wanted to make more music with the factor of ACTUAL instruments (less synthetic/computer sounds and implement the live nature of "real" instruments" which is why I feel like piggy went haywire at the end. He said it more eloquently tho lol
***he also sang about addiction a lott
***antiestablishmentarianism - the man with a big gun is uncle sam. Theres a lot of um... anti gov stuff in here. I always felt he was singing it from a place of contempt, not stepping into the shoes of... yk?
Fellow Industrialist here, you have just discovered one of the greatest albums of all time. There is only one other album which beats this for NIN and that is With Teeth. This is my 3rd favorite band of all time please do more I have subbed. Also, if you haven't already dude don't miss out on a band that sounds just like them. His main inspiration is this album and this band, the name of my friend's band is called Grand Folly (Album is The Noble Rot)
Favorite tracks: Ruiner & Reptile
Great reaction and review. If you want another similar kind of album (industrial concept album), check out the new Spoils of Grace album "Suffer Long" and listen to it end to end.
Also on Heresy (God diss track LOL!!!) When the album was made it was a controversial song and not a theme as played out as it is now.... Also as a diehard fan... I don't where the "Pig" thing originated for sure but, it's kinda just become a thing... Like at his concerts he will say "Hey pigs" so in that way it's become a term of endearment lol.....
Their comeback album after a long layoff, "With Teeth" is also worth checking out,. I am biased though NIN are one of my all time fave bands. Also for industrial on the more metal end of the spectrum check out Fear Factory "Demanufacture"
All of the Pig references are directly related to where the album was written and recorded, which is the house where Sharon Tate and 4 other people were brutally butchered by the Manson Family in August of 1969. In those murders, if you aren’t familiar with it, “Piggy” and “Death to Pigs” was written on the walls/doors with the blood of the victims. I’m sure living for 2+ years in a place with such a dark history had an effect on the songs/album.
One thing that always gets me with this album is knowing that is was mainly made by just one person (Trent Reznor) because NIN wasn't really a band (until 2016) because trent was the only official member and he worked on this project alone. its amazing how one person could write all the lyrics and music so perfectly to make such a phenomenal album.
Thats crazy. I always felt the first four tracks were just greats songs on an album but once you get to Closer its something different, some sonic journey that shouldn't be interrupted. Its cool to hear someone else have a similar experience.
Awesome channel! 😃 Great stuff!
I hope you got inspired to listen to more NIN in the future 😄
I'd suggest also Health's album Slaves of Fear for a similar sort of soundscape ❤
This would be watchable if you didn't chop it.. maybe make part 1 part 2 so there not to long. Hard to watch with chopped audio
Also take into context when this album was made. It was revolutionary and original. He made it on his own and hired people to play live. Reznor is an underrated artis..
You should really look into how Trent wrote this album, he left his old record label, started his own label "Nothing records", rented Sharon Tates house she was murdered in to write this album, I'm pretty sure Trent wrote and played almost every instrument on the album, and has had an extremely prestigious in music ever since going to to win a Grammy for a movie score, and CEO of Apple music
He was on heavy drugs on this album...his gardener got murdered by a crackhead and he quit drugs. Why his music changed after this album. Saw them in concert...lovely band
to me the ending of hurt is so profound, its kind of a triumph over death, 'if i could start again, a million miles away, I would keep myself, i would find a way" its almost like him accepting death, by not accepting it, don't how it works, Trent's a damn genius, i just have ears
"there's gotta be sample work here"
Bro. You have no idea.
On their first album there's a track where they used kids beating on the hide of a dead elephant.
On this album "eraser" uses a car door slamming in a parking garage as the bass drum.
But it's like 90% sampling and a very small part actual instruments. You mentioned it being cliche, you gotta remember this album came out in 94 I think? Pretty hate machine was late 80s I belive. Trent started this movement in this genre.
I really don't think he won the battle, to me, Eraser is him deciding to do it, hurt is him writing the suicid3 note and the abrupt harsh guitar that made you jump at the end is the gun going off...and after that is a void of nothing.....have a nice day.
I know you say obvious vocals/lyrics, but back when it came out, it was a total mood for the misunderstood and 'woke' sad/mad souls. there wasn't a plethora of emo bands and no MCR topping the charts.
Was cool to get your thoughts on this album. Im in total agreement with you that it does an excellent job of building a world through sound( a twisted, dark world, but still). Ironically I dont revisit it much at all for that reason. Its kinda like the 'Requiem for a Dream' of music. Still, i consider a classic album.
If you decide to do more NIN, please check out The Fragile, the followup to this. While still relatively dark, its nowhere near as crushing as TDS, and the soundscapes are on par with this, quite possibly better.
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Superficial? Too much on the nose? This is your first listening to this masterpiece. It is a high art concept album, you have to listen to the entire album from start to finish. You will not understand this album at the hundred listening much less the first listening. If you've never experienced pain, suffering, depression, internal conflicts regarding religion, morals, bullying, sex addiction, drug abuse, etc. Then you may never understand it. He is a sonic and lyrical savant. If you don't get it, it's because you're not capable of getting it.
Was recorded in Benedict Canyon, Los Angeles. the site of the murder of actress Sharon Tate by members of the Manson Family in 1969 was transformed into a studio.
This album is amazing, but The Fragile is a genuine MASTERPIECE.