Goths React To 80s UK Goths

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  • Another clip from the 80s vault today, this time a throwback piece about Goth and New Wave in York, UK from 1983!
    Addendum: The source video incorrectly labels this as 1987 however several sources have confirmed it was indeed 1983
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  • @dubiouskazoo1873
    @dubiouskazoo1873 5 месяцев назад +81

    The history of Goth evolution is fascinating, so proud to be part of this subculture.

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +9

      💯🖤🖤🖤👏🦇

    • @MaxRamos8
      @MaxRamos8 5 месяцев назад +2

      I think the Culture of Gothic originated from dark romanticism, literally. That era of history (late 1700s-Mid 1800s) brought us Funeral marches, dramatic operas, Edgar Allen Poe, and some fantastic music. You also find Brahm Stoker and other classic horror novelists. And it fits the Victorian buildings of that time since Gothic architecture was new back then. The earliest music depiction could be Henry Purcell's "When I am Laid in Earth" which has themes of mourning, lonlieness, and heartbreak as well as death. If I go back to school for a Masters then I would write my thesis on this, and it would make sense that it would not be a "formal" genre of classical music as the educated Europeans would be too Elitist to consider it.

    • @dragonofhatefulretribution9041
      @dragonofhatefulretribution9041 5 месяцев назад

      @@MaxRamos8 Gothic architecture wasn’t new in the 17-1800s.
      The Gothic heathen barbarian tribes who were assimilated into the Holy Roman Empire became the ruling elite before the 10th century. The Ostrogoths conquered Italy around halfway through the 5th century & the Visigoths conquered Spain around the 6th century. Gothic cathedrals emerged shortly thereafter. Likely the same in France with regards to gothic castles, churches and cathedrals-likely earlier in Germany regarding all the above. *De origine actibusque Getarum* (The Origins and Deeds of the Goths, aka ‘Getica’) was written by Jordanes after 551 AD and documents the history of the Gothic peoples.

    • @MaxRamos8
      @MaxRamos8 5 месяцев назад

      @@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 I said Gothic culture, not the people who were goth tribe. Very different

    • @dragonofhatefulretribution9041
      @dragonofhatefulretribution9041 5 месяцев назад

      @@MaxRamos8 “And it fits the Victorian buildings of that time since Gothic architecture was new back then…”
      Oh and you’ve just used a straw-man since I never claimed you made the assertion that Gothic tribes were new back then.

  • @joesellers7185
    @joesellers7185 3 месяца назад +10

    Proud to say that the girl with the dark mohawk type hair at the beginning is my mum. She's really enjoyed watching you guys chat about the scene and it brought back a lot of memories for her. ❤ She's fairly confident that it's a little out on the year and says she would guess it to be about 1983!

    • @gisellel12357
      @gisellel12357 2 месяца назад

      That’s so cool! I had the problem my mum was so cool, o had nothing to rebel against. I could’ve gone into business I suppose 🤷‍♀️😊.

  • @Jdhustler5666
    @Jdhustler5666 5 месяцев назад +51

    T he 80s was such a amazing wonderfully good time for fashion and music

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +7

      We wish we could go back and spend a night there!!

    • @sleepysartorialist
      @sleepysartorialist 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@RandomGothCouple See I was alice back then I'm not sure I could agree but I'm American so it was a bit diff here tbh

    • @Blatro_Ceneidrago
      @Blatro_Ceneidrago 5 месяцев назад

      @@RandomGothCoupleLet's recreate the look and atmosphere!

    • @russellbulcock4297
      @russellbulcock4297 5 месяцев назад

      No it wasn't
      13:59

    • @russellbulcock4297
      @russellbulcock4297 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Blatro_Ceneidragodon't bother

  • @BrianJHatcher
    @BrianJHatcher 5 месяцев назад +28

    The introduction of fetish wear into alternative fashion probably began in 1974, when Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren rebranded their clothing store at 430 King's Road, London, as SEX. it was arguably where punk fashion was born, and where a lot of punk and post punk icons shopped, like the Sex Pistols, Adam Ant, and Siouxie Sioux. They also sold a lot of fetish and bondage wear, which found its way into punk fashion as well. I’d assume any decent video or documentary on Vivienne Westwood would cover that period of her life and the influence of SEX on alternative fashion.

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +11

      True! I actually mentioned the store when we filmed this but edited it out.
      Fantastic idea though to check out a documentary about that specifically, will have to look for something RUclips friendly and it might end up a future video, thanks! 🦇

    • @pobstrel
      @pobstrel 5 месяцев назад +2

      The fetish wear they sold was bought from existing fetish shops such as She-An-Me and sex shops in Soho and sold for an inflated price!

    • @jamesleyda365
      @jamesleyda365 5 месяцев назад +1

      It was existing before 74, just not remembered or documented for posterity or what the f**k ever!

  • @kaijujohnny
    @kaijujohnny 5 месяцев назад +30

    I was waiting for the point in the video when the commentator would mention being unemployed. That bingo card is perfect! 😂👏

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +11

      Oh we can always count on that 😂😂 Glad you liked the bingo card! We will have to do it again!

    • @lunagrimm_
      @lunagrimm_ 5 месяцев назад

      unemployed / devil worshippers😂😭

  • @joiedevivre2005
    @joiedevivre2005 5 месяцев назад +9

    As a Gen Xer who was a bit punk-Southern goth fluid in the 80's, leather was popular in mainstream fashion in the 80's (at least it was here in the US). We would remake what we found in stores & thrift shops (we cut up a lot of 70's era leather coats & dyed them black). Those of us in the Deep South of the US had to get particularly creative with our fashion because it stays pretty hot & humid here for 75% of the year. I would love to see you delve into the New Orleans vampire / Southern goth culture.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад +3

      Thrift stores, the family closet and small funky shops that sold posters and jewelry were the go-to. You could take a long sleeve button up and sew lace to the ends of the sleeves. I would wrap Spanish lace veils around a skirt, etc. Chains and dog collars around your boots. Plus, you would “clink” “clink” as you walked!

  • @silverstitch28
    @silverstitch28 5 месяцев назад +17

    I was a child in the 80s but i had cousins much older than me. They were new wave and goth. They would always be dressed so cool i thought. They played their records for me and dress me up with makeup. I loved it 😍

  • @Foo007
    @Foo007 5 месяцев назад +20

    Speaking as someone who actually had that big hair in the 80’s…we did it with egg whites and Aqua Net hairspray

    • @m.scottmcgahan9900
      @m.scottmcgahan9900 5 месяцев назад +6

      And also sometimes spray starch and an ironing board, lol

    • @angelaburrow8114
      @angelaburrow8114 5 месяцев назад +3

      I was lucky. I had naturally very thick, dark hair. I just needed to crimp it & I ended up with a style like Siouxsie Sioux's. Lol😊

    • @Ravenghoul
      @Ravenghoul 5 месяцев назад

      Egg whites & sugar or Gelatine were alternatives to hairspray for those that were more environmentally conscious. Not that gelatine was, but it was used as an alternate. At one stage when I had a Mohawk I put it up with Sellys glue. We put all kinds of stuff in our hair.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад

      Extra Super Hold Aqua Net, All Set Ultra, or Knox Gelatin and a “sticky” hair dryer from all those hair products typically for that big hair!

    • @m.scottmcgahan9900
      @m.scottmcgahan9900 5 месяцев назад

      @@RavenghoulThe hole in the ozone layer wasn't noticed until 1985, and they didn't pass any legislation about products depleting the ozone layer until '87, so most of us kids in the 80's had no idea that hairspray was problematic. but, yes, we did put all sorts of other stuff in our hair besides hairspray, like egg whites, spray starch, wood glue, gelatin, even sugar water. I knew a chap what painted his mohawk up with latex house paint. I wouldn't recommend sugar water or Jello, though, because it can attract pests.

  • @andrewharper1609
    @andrewharper1609 5 месяцев назад +10

    Aquanet was a staple of the '80's hair scene.

  • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
    @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +21

    The 80s goth scene in the UK was Very interesting.

  • @visigoth247
    @visigoth247 5 месяцев назад +3

    Greetings from Michigan, USA. I am 62 y.o. and I have loved all things dark and spooky since I can remember. I often listen to neo-classical dark ambiant music. Now that I am retired, I wear black clothing almost all the time. I like your show; especially when you go to festivals. Perhaps you could do a show on elder goths. Keep up the good work. See you in your nightmares.

  • @odetteuys1111
    @odetteuys1111 5 месяцев назад +7

    Having been young alternative in the 80s, I can tell you that no one wore diamanté earrings to the alternative club we went to. The club had 2 floors - downstairs was the normal floor, and upstairs was the alternative floor. The two didn't mix. The people I see in this video were the downstairs people. Granted most people had huge hair though across the board. But for alternatives/Goths the look was mainly mohawks, doc martens, skinnies, and black everything. And long dark trench coats.

  • @MiotaLee
    @MiotaLee 5 месяцев назад +3

    Man... If I could revive the goth and post punk scene I SO would

  • @JukeboxGothic
    @JukeboxGothic 5 месяцев назад +8

    Members of the Birthday party and Neubauten were friends. Blixa Bargeld became a member of Nick Caves new band, The Bad Seeds. Just as a side note and something that I still find funny, if you watch the movie "30 days of night" , the little girl vampire in the store has a Neubauten Tattoo. A fan in the production team.

    • @Batcavania
      @Batcavania 5 месяцев назад +1

      I’m sure they just hadn’t gotten to painting on the boys next door or bad seeds yet, I hope they eventually added Grinderman to it as well haha

    • @Ravenghoul
      @Ravenghoul 5 месяцев назад

      Nick Cave & Blixa lived in East Germany together. They did quite a few collaborations too. Probably Nick Caves best period. He used to write lyrics on toilet paper on the bus… but also had a bit of a drug problem. Blixa was cooler than Nick Cave. I was fortunate enough to meet them.🙂

    • @JukeboxGothic
      @JukeboxGothic 5 месяцев назад

      @@Ravenghoul I think drugs had a Nick Cave problem. I always wanted Blixa's leather pants. Blixas collabs with other people were highlights. Neubauten doing Thirsty Animal with Lydia Lunch is still amazing.

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 5 месяцев назад

      Yea…I saw them in Chicago. Almost burned the club down. Late 90s loved playing tools and releasing sparks…into…the…crowd. :)

  • @douglascampbell9809
    @douglascampbell9809 5 месяцев назад +4

    On cable tv on Friday nights there used to be a show called USA (the channel) Up All Night. Every once in a while they would show this music/scene/subculture show from some public access tv station on the West coast.
    This was one of the ways kids in the midwest found out about punk rock and goth. Band interviews, a little fashion, what the scene was mad about etc.
    Sadly I can't remember the name of the show. It's been like 40 years.

  • @janiebrossmann1178
    @janiebrossmann1178 5 месяцев назад +3

    The 80’s were the best …I definitely am happy I was a teenager then 🖤🦇 Thrift stores so great and Aqua Net was definitely a must.

  • @theunknownatheist3815
    @theunknownatheist3815 5 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t know if other areas did this, but something I NEVER was fond of, was the wearing of WW2 German military uniforms being worn at clubs. This was a thing in LA- don’t know about anywhere else.
    Anyone remember seeing this?

    • @mjh5437
      @mjh5437 5 месяцев назад

      We did in London too,that had been happening since Punk in 1976

  • @beast_of_burden7762
    @beast_of_burden7762 5 месяцев назад +6

    Great video as always guys, and I love your Editing Connor. Superb humor added👌

  • @LSMSusan
    @LSMSusan 5 месяцев назад +3

    I used to put that awful bright green gel in my hair before drying it upside down followed by hairspray and crimping and backcoming... Followed by more hairspray and crimping till it melted and looked like corrugated cardboard then I would let it cool before separating it 😮

  • @blightedroses2423
    @blightedroses2423 5 месяцев назад +4

    I think it might be harder to recreate the hair styles because they changed the way hair spray is made. I think it had a chemical that was depleting the ozone layer.

  • @bodhisattva9190
    @bodhisattva9190 5 месяцев назад +15

    Your cross necklace is so cool 🤘🤘🤘🤘

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you! Our friend made us matching ones for our birthdays! It's happyinblackcharms on instagram! 🖤👏

  • @dougspidermanhappy
    @dougspidermanhappy 5 месяцев назад +5

    Lynn, my bf and I were just talking about how amazing your makeup is. You doodle on your face really well lol

  • @cammie72
    @cammie72 5 месяцев назад +3

    In the states back in the 80s we had stores called head shops they sold smoking devices well say😏. They also sold leather goods, bralettes, skirts n such. You could sew things together to make different stuff or wear as it was.

  • @theunknownatheist3815
    @theunknownatheist3815 5 месяцев назад +3

    I’m from the US- Los Angeles- and back then to us, we would have classified their look as “Death Rock”.
    My cousins were into the “New Romantic” scene in the 80’s when we were teens- and I was kind of a hybrid “Goth Rocker”- like the Cult/Type O Neg. Etc. At least looks wise.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад

      In Florida, it was called Death Rock. I was a Horror Punk and wore zombie makeup. I listened to The Misfits, Samhain, Black Flag, GBH, etc and death rock/industrial/dark wave stuff, too.

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 5 месяцев назад

      It was New Romantic or New Wavers or Post Punks in the Midwest.

  • @chanabhaji2726
    @chanabhaji2726 5 месяцев назад +2

    You'd get this stuff either through the post from catalogues (Phaze was one) or you'd make it yourself. Art students would make a lot of it. Living in London, Manchester or other bigger cities there would be the odd shop stocking this stuff.

  • @HouseofMouse71
    @HouseofMouse71 5 месяцев назад +1

    An old late 80's Goth here...From Plymouth, we had a thing in 87/88 where we were despised by the local football hooligan element, and it was quite dangerous going out alone or in small groups as you would quite frequently end up being physically attacked. They even put up recruiting posters in the 1988 off season for the upcoming season and stated on these flyers that Goths,Punks,Psychobillys etc were to be their main target. There was once a few of us in our local Haunt a pub called the Abbey (Now Kitty o'Hanlon's to anyone who has visited Plymouth) and without a sound the corner we were in was surrounded by Trendies,Kev's....Whatever you want to call them!! Words were exchanged and within a few minutes the pub was absolutely wrecked.

  • @DominicKirby1967
    @DominicKirby1967 5 месяцев назад +1

    There is a club in Hull (about an hour away from York) called Spiders where we used to go in the 80s, although it is still going today. It catered for all the alternative subcultures, including Goths, and it was brilliant. I am just reading Goth by Lol Tolhurst formerly of The Cure, which I think you'd like if you haven't already read it.

  • @melique747
    @melique747 5 месяцев назад

    We definitely made our own bondage ware back then. Tandy leather was where we bought the spikes and leather scraps.

  • @kimberlyvespa
    @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад +1

    Also, waiting for Halloween to go shopping for stuff to make jewelry, for sewing trinkets on your clothes and jacket and buy rubber bats and skulls for your car! Lol!

  • @lestatsluv317
    @lestatsluv317 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love these old videos. I have seen a lot of these on RUclips over the years but I love your reactions to them so I watch them again with you. Lol
    I think the huge focus on employment comes from the fact that, if you can remember a lot about the 90's even (I am not sure how old you two are but I know you are younger than me and I was born in '87), if people were dressed out of the ordinary, wore unique makeup, or even had visible tattoos or piercings, places refused to hire them. I knew I wanted tattoos even as a little kid and that's the warning I would hear from all of the adults I knew was that no one would hire me if I had tattoos. Hell, when I did my hair purple at age 14 in 2001, even though I was legally too young to work, I would get stared at everywhere and complete strangers would tell me to get it out of my system before I was 16 because no one would hire a person with purple hair. .. which was true. Things have changed so much now with things like that but it was really ridiculous back then so of course, if these people put their foot down and refused to change their look at work or went in to fill out an application looking like a Goth, they would have been unemployed because assholes wouldn't give them the opportunity to work. Lmao And instead of the producers of these segments being even a little sympathetic to how ridiculous that was, society's outlook was if you want a job, give up everything that makes you you before you fill out the application and if you are lucky, you can be yourself in the weekends. To me, that attitude really shows in these segments.
    Also, Connor, what you said about dressing like you do to make yourself happy with how you look is exactly how I feel. I am just coming out of an extremely bad two year depression and one of the things I am doing to help bring myself out of it is going back to wearing makeup everyday and dressing Goth again because since I was twelve, dressing Goth and listening to Goth has made me feel better, more like myself. Depending on where you live in the world, dressing like that still gets you scorn when you walk out into the world and my shitty small town in Ohio is like that. Just put on some black lipstick no matter how normie you dress and people will mean mug you for no damn reason like your makeup choice personally offended them. 😂 But I don't care because I am used to it after all these years and dressing like I do makes me feel like me. 🤷‍♀️ I wish everyone could find the style that makes them feel that way, regardless of what it is, because it's a very freeing thing when the way you look on the outside actually resembles how you want to look inside and you feel like your style reflects your personality. For me, it's Goth. I put on the clothes and the makeup and jewelry and listen to some Dream Disciples or Black Tape for a Blue Girl or something like that and I feel better. 😊

  • @robertdonnell8114
    @robertdonnell8114 5 месяцев назад +4

    So the big hair (in the 1980s) was not to attract people? Then what, was it to attract bats? Just kidding, I miss my hair.

  • @Batcavania
    @Batcavania 5 месяцев назад +1

    anything that includes the virgin prunes gets my love immediately. these types of videos are always so cool, I agree I’m so glad people had the mind to document it. Also embracing makeup as a form of self expression, your own idea of beauty is incredibly freeing. I wish that were more the standard to see it as another medium of expression instead of a way to fit in. I do think that’s happening more than ever nowadays and I’m glad for it. You’re the canvas and that’s the fun!

  • @canucklehead0
    @canucklehead0 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a kid in the 80's (I was 13 in 1980) who loves this era and music I can honestly say as a member of a small prairie town in the middle of Alberta, Canada there were only a couple of blokes who wore their hair big like these kids in the video. My hair has the unfortunate characteristic of curling back up on itself whenever I tried to grow it long. So, it retaliation I used to have very short cuts with a chevron pattern cut into the back during rugby season, and when rugby was over I would have panels trimmed into the sides of my head with either a heartbeat line, or an Aladdin Sane style lightning bolt shaved in down to the skin. In answer to your "hair volume" question Connor, as a former TV Camera Operator this effect is achieved by placing a stronger light lower behind the subject, while the main light on the face is at the correct exposure. The result is that halo effect you see in his segment, now splash a streak of blue or red light (coloured gel over a light, setting the light doors, or barn doors to a slash pattern) on a wall or piece of background and voila, finished 80's goth hair effect. Thanks for the look back, always a treat!!! - Dave

  • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
    @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +11

    You guys should react to the 2000s goth scene or The Victorian Goth Scene

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +8

      Ohh that a great idea! Thanks so much 🖤🦇

    • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
      @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@RandomGothCouple ya because I personally think Victoraian goth subculture is underrated

    • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
      @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@RandomGothCouple its my personal favorite Goth Subculture

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +2

      @isaiahrodriquezgothboy We one hundred percent agree on that! We have it written down now for a future video!

    • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
      @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад

      @@RandomGothCouple ohhh that sounds great!!!!

  • @RookSpinard
    @RookSpinard 5 месяцев назад +2

    Video idea: A Random Goth Couple go thrifting, then do an 80's goth fashion look.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад

      Yup! Layering and customizing!!!

  • @Ravenghoul
    @Ravenghoul 5 месяцев назад +11

    Those 80’s Goths were the real deal… not like today’s scene. All the leather gear we either made ourselves or bought from sex shops. I was one of the 90’s Goths who did my hair trad Goth style. We used to back comb our hair with our heads upside down & blow dry with hairspray. I had my hair like that for years until it started falling out.
    We’d constantly have our photos taken by strangers & so called people doing documentaries that we never heard from again. In the end some of us would ask for money if they were taking our photos. My friends & I got interviewed a few times by strange reporters. None of us were unemployed. I went from school to University & we looked like that extreme Trad Goth look everyday. If we were working we’d tone it down a bit, but some employer’s loved the look & having a genuine Goth working for them. We were all highly productive members of our community.🖤

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад

      I went to high school, toned my hair down slightly for the print shop, then back up for the music/video store job. People loved my hair and would seek out music and movie advice! Lol! Small town St. Cloud, FL near Orlando.

  • @Kat_Nguyen
    @Kat_Nguyen 5 месяцев назад +1

    Backcombing & aqua net hair spray for big hair back in the day.

  • @user-sg9bj6qm1q
    @user-sg9bj6qm1q 5 месяцев назад +10

    When are the "1st Annual Gothies"? - A yearly goth awards for... I don't know, I'm just thinkin here... goth of the year, or best goth performance at a concert, or best makeup in emergency conditions like who can get their makeup done when you've overslept and you got somewhere to get to... or you can give each other awards... maybe biggest makeup fail of the year for forgetting to do eyeliner or... best goth trend of the year... or flash in the pan goth trend of the year... or... help me with some ideas!

    • @user-sg9bj6qm1q
      @user-sg9bj6qm1q 5 месяцев назад +3

      Or best goth makeup in the rain... or sweatiest goth... or gothiest goth... maybe Lynns Makeup of the Year for her best makeup in a video - same for Conner, or... so many ideas probably! I just love the channel is all!

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +6

      This is a great idea!! We deserve to have something like this to award people for what they do and it would be a fun way to showcase all of that stuff!! It would be so much fun do something like this...definitely something to think about and maybe organise in the future 👀

  • @Ulfcytel
    @Ulfcytel 5 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of people, particularly a lot of young people, *were* on the dole in the '80s and early '90s in the UK. There were a couple of siginificant economic crises during that period, with mass unemployment (reaching 3 million, or 12% of the workforce). Nowadays they have to stay in school until they're at least 18, then most go off to uni. Not the case then.

  • @sheldoncooper8199
    @sheldoncooper8199 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its very difficult to tell 80 ies Goths and New Wavers apart. They might be The Cure Fans they might be Sisters of Mercy Fans they might be Billy Idol Fans They might be Depeche Mode Fans You never know. But i dont know i was born 1981 to Young to know and i only scratched the surface with Depeche Mode myself.

  • @charlesstewart6191
    @charlesstewart6191 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah...
    I did have a heck of a lot more hair then, but also, in my case, the proper amount of damage (from bleach and colour) gave the necessary volume & a ton of gel, freezing and spiking sprays

  • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
    @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love both of your guys necklace!!!!!!!🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

    • @RandomGothCouple
      @RandomGothCouple  5 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you! Our friend happyinblackcharms on instagram makes them! 🖤✨

    • @isaiahrodriquezgothboy
      @isaiahrodriquezgothboy 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@RandomGothCouple oh wow they look amazing!!!!

  • @MaxRamos8
    @MaxRamos8 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the Culture of Gothic originated from dark romanticism, literally. That era of history (late 1700s-Mid 1800s) brought us Funeral marches, dramatic operas, Edgar Allen Poe, and some fantastic music. You also find Brahm Stoker and other classic horror novelists. And it fits the Victorian buildings of that time since Gothic architecture was new back then. The earliest music depiction could be Henry Purcell's "When I am Laid in Earth" which has themes of mourning, lonlieness, and heartbreak as well as death. If I go back to school for a Masters then I would write my thesis on this, and it would make sense that it would not be a "formal" genre of classical music as the educated Europeans would be too Elitist to consider it.

  • @flux928
    @flux928 5 месяцев назад

    If you look at any S Clay Wilson's biker fights for Zap Comix in the early 70's, he was drawing Goth and Punk girls before the music. Therefore you could pick up leather jackets, boots and pants from Biker shops, S&M rubber and vinyl stuff from sex shops and the rest you could thrift.

  • @STZACRACK666
    @STZACRACK666 5 месяцев назад +2

    80s Goth kids: This is goth
    Random Goth Couple: that's not goth,this is real goth!
    Random Goth Couple: Punks dead
    Punks: Look at those Emo kids
    😂😂😂💀

  • @VeritySnatch
    @VeritySnatch 5 месяцев назад +1

    we had to make our own clothes. cut our own hair. there was a lot of fighting football casuals until they discovered MDMA.

  • @StaceyFritch
    @StaceyFritch 5 месяцев назад +1

    In Ontario Canada, we shopped at a store called Le Chateau for Goth/Punk clothing in the 80's.

  • @adylevene4318
    @adylevene4318 5 месяцев назад

    This is 1984ish because although I considered myself a punk, I knew lots of those people it's the Roxy chameleon' club York. Went to Batcave tour in 83, that's Steve Dixon photographing Bill Holland.

  • @neilsun2521
    @neilsun2521 5 месяцев назад +1

    You should try the the video of the '80s goth night out someone's documented set to 'Death In June - The Calling (MK II )' [that's the vid title] here on YT. It features the getting ready at home, and the boogying. And the folks still look good today imo. Edit: Caligary Belial is the uploader, if u'r looking

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 5 месяцев назад +1

      I love DIJ over most gothic videos!

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 5 месяцев назад

      @@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 I do quite like Douglas. But I wish they'd done more electronic tracks like that one I mentioned.

  • @sebastiengermain267
    @sebastiengermain267 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for another video! Our subculture is truly wonderful and exploring the origins of goth, both musically and stylistically, is always a fun learning experience.

  • @douglascampbell9809
    @douglascampbell9809 5 месяцев назад +1

    With the leather undergarments it wasn't so much who made them but how you found out about them. That would be magazines or all sorts including adult magazines. Al lot of it like now was cottage industries with one or two people who made the stuff. Sometime you would see the stuff at comic book and gaming conventions.
    I can remember going to Gencon (a gaming convention) for the first time in the late 80's early 90's and there was a chain mail booth. The women at the booth wore chainmail bikinis with little to nothing under the mail. So it was essentially see through. Companies like thins had catalogs to order stuff through the mail. The precursor to ordering online.
    I would say most people found their leather either at biker events, s#x shops or from adds in the back of magazines.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, leather shops had lots of spikes and studs!

  • @skellymom
    @skellymom 3 дня назад

    1:33 Guess what? SOMETIMES when you get older...You still keep the mohawk...and grow out a long-ass tail too. I'm 54 years old with natural silver hair and have a mullet mohawk. It's STILL not a phase!

  • @oscillated139
    @oscillated139 5 месяцев назад

    I am assuming the club was The Roxy in York. I have danced to Killing Joke there myself. Great memories.

  • @kyriaki4901
    @kyriaki4901 3 месяца назад +1

    Most epic Virgin Prunes track ever....

  • @sisterdiscordia
    @sisterdiscordia 5 месяцев назад

    Madonna and Annie Lenox are Sue n banshees, dangling flashy jewelry....I have a few pieces I wear to this day. I wish they would bring it back. I love wearing a Tiera at Goth nights

  • @irish66
    @irish66 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ah, so youse are irish. I was never anything but square in looks, but i enjoyed this video.I wouldn't have thought of the Smiths as being Goth.

  • @amandanelson3345
    @amandanelson3345 5 месяцев назад

    Aqua Net hairspray. It was like glue for your hair.

  • @roguesgallery4228
    @roguesgallery4228 5 месяцев назад

    So monochromatically flamboyant, like a Tim Burton film. 😂

  • @garryhornby4164
    @garryhornby4164 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi I'm from York I know everyone in this video I ran and still run the hellfire club probably the world's oldest still running goth alternative club night plus now the happy house, York as well as nearby Leeds were trad goth strongholds back in the 80s

  • @melrock06
    @melrock06 5 месяцев назад +3

    Love your necklaces 🖤🖤

  • @MarcelGomesPan
    @MarcelGomesPan 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was living in Co Cork in the late 90’s.
    ( i’m Swedish ).
    I wish i would have met people like you to have pint with.
    There i was, sporting my leather coat, black hair and LaVey goatee…all on my lonesome. 🎩🦇
    My, then, girlfriend and i went clubbing, and though the clubs where less weird than i was used to, there WAS the old churches and misty graveyards for ambience.
    Sláinte! 🍺

  • @JAPB
    @JAPB 5 месяцев назад +1

    awesome 80s bangs 😍

  • @midnightwitch606
    @midnightwitch606 5 месяцев назад +2

    Whitby is very gothic, the old cobbles, the dracula connections and of course the gothic weekend.
    You two are such an OG couple, i love all you're reaction videos
    Ha sting 😂 🦇🦇🦇

    • @LouciferFlump
      @LouciferFlump 5 месяцев назад

      Is Whitby nice again now? I got married there in 2007. It was still very Goth and great but as the years passed, each time my hubby and I visited, the Goth shops were disappearing, the place was just a mass of chip shops and we stopped going. Haven’t been for maybe 10years. I know there’s still the Goth Weekends but I mean in general, it had lost its Gothic charm, apart from the Abbey.
      Maybe it’s improved again…?

  • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
    @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 5 месяцев назад

    Backcombing, kids. Miles and miles and miles of backcombing. :)

  • @KlausKleber-ys6yd
    @KlausKleber-ys6yd 5 месяцев назад +2

    Your Looks on Fleek 🖤

  • @BigKelvPark
    @BigKelvPark 5 месяцев назад

    I never have been a goth but used to frequent a goth bar and found it most welcoming. At the time I was into thrash metal and hip-hop but I do listen to anything.

  • @24caratJosh
    @24caratJosh 5 месяцев назад +1

    I still love you two. :) :) :) so friendly and so beautiful. P. S wish there were more people as friendly as you. :)

  • @anthonynguyen4088
    @anthonynguyen4088 5 месяцев назад

    id love to see a deep dive into the scene subculture

  • @mjh5437
    @mjh5437 5 месяцев назад

    I was a Goth in London 1981-83 and my favourite group was UK Decay,check them out.

  • @_stxrblazerr
    @_stxrblazerr 5 месяцев назад

    I'm American but I love how Irish ppl talk ❤❤❤❤

  • @the_happy_goth
    @the_happy_goth 5 месяцев назад

    Lynn, I just hafta say how in this video in particular you look so much like Death from the original Sandman graphic novels 🖤

  • @peterfitzgerald53
    @peterfitzgerald53 5 месяцев назад

    An old eighties goth here ,Hi from across the pond where it all started ,of interest my sister's boyfriends sisters partner is none other than Peter Murphy from Bauhaus ,from Northampton u.k.,great video btw

  • @cropstar
    @cropstar 5 месяцев назад

    You got alot of yours clothes/shoes from mail order catolouges. Or little adverts in Sounds/Kerraang or NME I think. It's a long time ago! I was always more Glam/Punk than Goth. Hanoi Rocks, Lords Of The New Church and stuff like that. Then I went full Metal with the advent of Thrash for the next 35 years and still going! Good Vid!

  • @gilraent1
    @gilraent1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Memories 😅 gads how I wish I had pictures of myself back then lol

  • @cratesclouds
    @cratesclouds 5 месяцев назад

    lol, always entertaining to hear how people try to explain what they don't understand. It's almost like people are different.

  • @ravagedheart65
    @ravagedheart65 5 месяцев назад

    I lived this. 80's goth I'd get up two hours before I needed to and crimp and backcomb my hair before work, Mostly because I'd go out to gigs or a clubs straight after my job. Taking hairspray / makeup (Although guys only wore eyeliner) to work with me. I was in London so never experienced the Northern scene but bands of course played south all the time . Seeing Bauhaus in early 1981 changed everything for me.

  • @checopacheco420
    @checopacheco420 5 месяцев назад

    Nice to see back .evolution of gothic culture love to see 1999 early 2000 🖤♠️🦋🕯♣️

  • @maggieshelley2579
    @maggieshelley2579 5 месяцев назад

    I'm not unemployed but I sure wish work dress codes would be more relaxed. I look like my grandma at work 😢

  • @julians9763
    @julians9763 5 месяцев назад

    I prefer how the Goth couple look. If I could go back to the 80''s I wll still dress as Victorian Goths today and Corp Goth.

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 5 месяцев назад +1

      The romantic goth puffy shirts, etc was big in 80s goth. Lace, velvet, silk!

  • @dianegorton4956
    @dianegorton4956 5 месяцев назад

    I love you guys!!!! I grew up in the early 80s I went to a tin of local bars that had new music…. Yes I did date a goth in the late 80s. I just love music!!!!!!

  • @JinxBlackthorne
    @JinxBlackthorne 5 месяцев назад

    Joico ice mist and French Formula hairspray were my weapons of choice for my hair in the 80s, and a lot of my clothes came from thrift shops that I altered. I wanted a certain silhouette so I made things work as best as I could. Sadly, the photos I had from back then got ruined in a move :( It was definitely a much more DIY time for goths or really any alternative folks. If you weren't a prep or a jock, good luck finding clothes in a traditional retail store.

  • @RaineBans
    @RaineBans 5 месяцев назад +2

    i would love to see you react to skinheads and the 2 factions of racist and anti racist :)

  • @LouciferFlump
    @LouciferFlump 5 месяцев назад

    You haven’t been to *YORK* ??? Wai….whaaaa….?? 😱 York Minster is a masterpiece. A Goth who hasn’t been to York is like a Hippy that hasn’t been to Glastonbury, man! 😂✌🏻😳

  • @trevorstewart1308
    @trevorstewart1308 5 месяцев назад

    a fun look into history

  • @Davescousemetal
    @Davescousemetal 5 месяцев назад

    A metal subculture deep dive would be cool. What I didn’t like about the guy who made the video is that of course he mentioned unemployment which is ridiculous but that also suggested that goth is something to grow out of once you get a job. I don’t like that people see things that way.

  • @julieeeles
    @julieeeles 5 месяцев назад

    I was a Goth in the 80s - fantastic times

  • @brianwilson49
    @brianwilson49 5 месяцев назад

    Used to go to a goth shop in york in the late 80s. forget what it was called now!

  • @Sanniz
    @Sanniz 5 месяцев назад

    Of course I will see more from the 80s. So miss those years. And I am happy I was a kid and young adult through those years.
    You both look awesome and it's great you both show that you don't need to agree in every aspect.
    Stay safe both... 🦇🖤🖤🖤🖤🦇

  • @robertpetre9378
    @robertpetre9378 5 месяцев назад

    You should get a every single time, they mention unemployment or being on the dull button 😅

  • @Cutenerdywoman
    @Cutenerdywoman 5 месяцев назад

    I wish my hair was thicker in the 80's. LOL. the big hair was a lot work. gel or mouse in wet hair, hang your head upside down to blow dry, tease your hair really good and tons of hair spray. In the USA they no long made the same hair spray we used because it was bad for the environment. everything was reformulated.

  • @petercullum1374
    @petercullum1374 5 месяцев назад

    @random goth couple ever been to Rebellion Festival

  • @patrickfolger2817
    @patrickfolger2817 5 месяцев назад

    Look into the german goth cene..is amazing!🖤

  • @bigpauliep6992
    @bigpauliep6992 5 месяцев назад

    Millennial Mansun cosplaying Hot Topic ersatz Goth posers react to original flavour Goths.
    Fixed it for you.

  • @dragonofhatefulretribution9041
    @dragonofhatefulretribution9041 5 месяцев назад +2

    Bro if you’re wanting to have thicker hair then do some research into the carnivore diet. It’s well-established that it thickens hair and gives countless other benefits. Professor Bart Kay and Dr. Anthony Chaffee are great resources on RUclips👍🏻

  • @stewartmatthews1551
    @stewartmatthews1551 5 месяцев назад

    I will say the 80s was a different time for sure but the thing is it was the very start of seeing the goth subculture definitely original point in time I did see another gothic documentary just the other day it was in 2003 actually it is a bit short but you guys definitely should check it out someday and react to it says on the title card goths make better lover

  • @michaelbreasseale9135
    @michaelbreasseale9135 5 месяцев назад

    You should check out some of Sting's facepaint in AEW

  • @TheGothKing
    @TheGothKing 5 месяцев назад +1

    Goth Goth Goth🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

  • @TheChadTI
    @TheChadTI 5 месяцев назад

    1:46 This common misconception drives me fucking nuts.

  • @rickonnye2001
    @rickonnye2001 5 месяцев назад

    Great video very interesting 🦇🦇🦇glad to be part of the subculture

  • @m.scottmcgahan9900
    @m.scottmcgahan9900 5 месяцев назад

    The singers of both The Birthday Party and Einsturzinde Neubauten came together in the Bad Seeds, so the genre difference isn't all that great. Especially in '87, the divisions between the different underground music genres was not yet so well defined. Death Rock and Bat-Caver and Goth and Industrial and No Wave and Art Rock all kinda blurred together around the edges.

    • @m.scottmcgahan9900
      @m.scottmcgahan9900 5 месяцев назад

      There were stores in London like SEX that sold bondage gear. There was a great mail-order catalogue that you could order the coolest Creepers and Winklepickers and corsets and neo-Victorian top coats with tails and BOY stuff and stripey stockings etc called Bogey's.

    • @m.scottmcgahan9900
      @m.scottmcgahan9900 5 месяцев назад

      And... the answer is a lot of Aqua-Net Super Extra Hold. A lot!