Great video Luke you explain so patiently and are so knowledgeable! I just don’t know how much pressure to apply when I tamp tho and how to keep it consistent - will try the leg shift method. Love your Channel and how relatable it is for us home baristas
Apparently you should use 40 lbs of pressure for tamping and 20 lbs of pressure for polishing. You can figure out how much this is by using a bathroom scale and pressing down (kitchen scale is too sensitive and might break). Worked for me so try it out :)
I also use the Linea Mini with WDT and the Decent tamper (which is spring loaded and has a flange that insures perfect centering and level tamp. Finally I use a BPlus puck screen which insures even, consistent extractions with no channeling. It has the added benefit of keeping the group head and shower screen very clean. Thanks for this video!
Yes, that’s a cool kit you have, it will standardise the process for sure, to help others, how much did all this cost to give them a perspective of costs.? If you don’t mind letting us know
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Well the Linea Mini, of course, is quite a pricey machine but worth it if one’s budget allows and one is truly nuts about espresso. The Decent Self-Leveling tamp is around $150 USD, and the Bplus puck screen is about $50 USD or thereabouts. A good WDT tool can be made, but ones using fine acupuncture needles can be found on Etsy for about $40 or less. So yeah, not a cheap combo, but from my experience they’re the best bang- for-buck accessories that actually impact shot quality and consistency. As you have pointed out, a high-quality grinder is the most important piece of kit (more so than the espresso maker). Thanks for your great content!
@quaxenleaf Hi, I like you post, I've just learnt what a puck screen is. I have a new linea mini, lux D grinder. I've started trying to make espresso and I'm having an utter nightmare. I'm hoping to get 40 grammes out of 21 grammes in a bottomless portafilter. First go, 150 plus grammes,😪. I not sure if I'm going wrong with the grind size or if my tamping is totally inadequate and producing channeling. Today I received my new NCD distribution tool/tamper. Struth it was pricey. I'm so frustrated with my ability that I've decided to throw more money at the problem. I ordered another kilo of beans today. When they arrive it will be game on with the new tamper to see the latest result.🤞 Very interesting about these puck screens. Over £50 in England. With everything including BWT filter system it's nearly £5800 and rising😲with no cappuccino in sight.
Thanks Luke, could you possibly look at doing a video, from grinding through extraction, as I'm getting a lot of channelling, with my pucks and a bit of water left on the top of the puck after extraction. Have a great weekend
We can, however there are so many little variations that cause issues, so we focus on these individually. Have a look at the dose and weight video, the Esprssso extraction defects video, these will help you narrow down on some of the issues you may be facing
Thank you so much for the tips. I just got a delonghi home espresso machine and I don't currently own a stainless steel tamper and it's difficult for me to get one where I live, so can the plastic one that came with the machine suffice?
Great video, I have a La Marzocco Linea Mini and I use the tamper that came with the machine. I sometimes feel that it is not a good fit for the basket, would you recommend a tighter fitting one. Kind regards from Scotland Johnny
Yes I would change it as they are a curve base, look at a flat base with 58.8 if your using a basket without a ridge that hold the spring into the basket
I like the sound of the consistency afforded by an auto tamper but it feels a bit extravagant (and expensive) for my home setup. I do like the look and compact size of that auto tamper used in the video though - what brand/model is it? Might be something I can save up for…
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Thanks for the reply! I have a Rhinoware tamper (I think!) for my older Giotto but I’m never sure I’m tamping with the “correct” amount of force. Any tips on how I can measure or train myself to feel if I’m doing it properly?
Yes, it will make 2 levels of various pressure and air pockets between the layers. Try taking the handle out with half the grind. Giving it a tap on the bench to settle the coffee, then add more grind and then tamp.
I have been told to not do the twist after tamping it looks cool but increases changes of channeling (so I’ve been told 😉) Maybe something to investigate?
We do a small turn to ensure your level, we dont spin the tamper in the handle. It’s would take a scientific approach to test is this will effect the puck,
I love the basket in the garden
Glad your got something out of this video 😂👌🏼
Great information. There are a lot of opinions on tamping, and I think that your approach will lead to solid and consistent results. Thank you.
Thank you. Keeping things simple and consistent is key
Great video Luke you explain so patiently and are so knowledgeable! I just don’t know how much pressure to apply when I tamp tho and how to keep it consistent - will try the leg shift method. Love your Channel and how relatable it is for us home baristas
Thank you. You can buy a espro tamper or a product like that brand that had a clicking in the handle to help give a consistent pressure. 👍🏻
Apparently you should use 40 lbs of pressure for tamping and 20 lbs of pressure for polishing. You can figure out how much this is by using a bathroom scale and pressing down (kitchen scale is too sensitive and might break). Worked for me so try it out :)
thanks for the rsi prevention tips
Amazing lesson.
Thanks!
Thank you. 🙏🏻
I also use the Linea Mini with WDT and the Decent tamper (which is spring loaded and has a flange that insures perfect centering and level tamp. Finally I use a BPlus puck screen which insures even, consistent extractions with no channeling. It has the added benefit of keeping the group head and shower screen very clean. Thanks for this video!
Yes, that’s a cool kit you have, it will standardise the process for sure, to help others, how much did all this cost to give them a perspective of costs.? If you don’t mind letting us know
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Well the Linea Mini, of course, is quite a pricey machine but worth it if one’s budget allows and one is truly nuts about espresso. The Decent Self-Leveling tamp is around $150 USD, and the Bplus puck screen is about $50 USD or thereabouts. A good WDT tool can be made, but ones using fine acupuncture needles can be found on Etsy for about $40 or less. So yeah, not a cheap combo, but from my experience they’re the best bang- for-buck accessories that actually impact shot quality and consistency. As you have pointed out, a high-quality grinder is the most important piece of kit (more so than the espresso maker). Thanks for your great content!
@quaxenleaf Hi, I like you post, I've just learnt what a puck screen is. I have a new linea mini, lux D grinder. I've started trying to make espresso and I'm having an utter nightmare. I'm hoping to get 40 grammes out of 21 grammes in a bottomless portafilter. First go, 150 plus grammes,😪. I not sure if I'm going wrong with the grind size or if my tamping is totally inadequate and producing channeling. Today I received my new NCD distribution tool/tamper. Struth it was pricey. I'm so frustrated with my ability that I've decided to throw more money at the problem. I ordered another kilo of beans today. When they arrive it will be game on with the new tamper to see the latest result.🤞 Very interesting about these puck screens. Over £50 in England. With everything including BWT filter system it's nearly £5800 and rising😲with no cappuccino in sight.
Thanks again on this boss🙏
Thank you for creating this guide
Thanks Luke, could you possibly look at doing a video, from grinding through extraction, as I'm getting a lot of channelling, with my pucks and a bit of water left on the top of the puck after extraction. Have a great weekend
We can, however there are so many little variations that cause issues, so we focus on these individually. Have a look at the dose and weight video, the Esprssso extraction defects video, these will help you narrow down on some of the issues you may be facing
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters ok thanks, have a great weekend
Thank you so much for the tips. I just got a delonghi home espresso machine and I don't currently own a stainless steel tamper and it's difficult for me to get one where I live, so can the plastic one that came with the machine suffice?
Glad we could help. The plastic one won’t fit that well. It will cause issues to try upgrading when you can
Top tips, thx 👍
Great video, I have a La Marzocco Linea Mini and I use the tamper that came with the machine.
I sometimes feel that it is not a good fit for the basket, would you recommend a tighter fitting one.
Kind regards from Scotland
Johnny
Are you barista brother
Yes I would change it as they are a curve base, look at a flat base with 58.8 if your using a basket without a ridge that hold the spring into the basket
I don't tamp anymore.
I do WDT then use an OCD tool set deep enough to distribute that does a light tamp as well. No channeling
Nice, we have a plan to talk about this soon. 👍🏻
I like the sound of the consistency afforded by an auto tamper but it feels a bit extravagant (and expensive) for my home setup. I do like the look and compact size of that auto tamper used in the video though - what brand/model is it? Might be something I can save up for…
We use the cinoart tampers, rrp $1000 aud. At least a manual pressure tamp would be a start.
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Thanks for the reply! I have a Rhinoware tamper (I think!) for my older Giotto but I’m never sure I’m tamping with the “correct” amount of force. Any tips on how I can measure or train myself to feel if I’m doing it properly?
I started using a distribution tool and stopped tamping altogether. I’m getting better, more consistent results now.
Glad it helped, stopped tamping altogether? You still need to compact the grinds
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Yes that’s correct, no more tamping. By adjusting the depth of the distribution tool it does the compaction too.
@@dinoapolito5354Only on the top layer. There were tests performed that showed that it is very subpar and does not compact the grind properly.
Those threaded-base tampers, if I use a puck screen, will it kill the effect of better water distribution? ☕
Not sure, we have not really played with the threaded tamp heads, we believe flat is best
I enjoyed your video.
Thank you
Great bro
You said don't knock the sides when coffee is on the side walls but what's recommended if that happens
Under dose the basket and let the water catch it and sit it on top. Cheers luke
Hi, with an automatic tamper machine, do you still need to use a distribution tool?
From what I've seen with auto tamps, bed prep should be done as usual. Just the tamping is replaced by the automation.
@@michaelvickruck168 Thank you very much
Yes correct, if anything more prep work is required
Thanks
Do you think it worthwhile to distribute evenly (the thumb, light tap or tool) technique prior to tamping?
100% distribution is a key to great coffee, but you have to have the other parts all in line as well
Omg I can't wait until I upgrade from my espresso appliance to a real machine!!
really? . . .after $pending BiG bucks, bet u wont be able to notice the diff' in a blindfold taste test :)
What intro music do you use?
Not sure what it’s called sorry, I’ll have to get our editing team to find out. They are on leave at the moment
I tamper once and then add more coffee and tamper again because i can't get 22 grams in the basket in one time. Is that bad
Yes, it will make 2 levels of various pressure and air pockets between the layers. Try taking the handle out with half the grind. Giving it a tap on the bench to settle the coffee, then add more grind and then tamp.
I have been told to not do the twist after tamping it looks cool but increases changes of channeling (so I’ve been told 😉)
Maybe something to investigate?
definitely don't do it
We do a small turn to ensure your level, we dont spin the tamper in the handle. It’s would take a scientific approach to test is this will effect the puck,
If you release the pressure before turning it shouldn’t make any difference
❤
What tamper you guys use at your coffee shop?
We use the cinoart pt2 auto tamper
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters awesome thank you. You guys are in Australia?
Looks like he's using the Rhinoware tamper?
Talk about stretching a vid out 'mate', Gordan Bennet you take the literal biscuit.