So many people to this day still praise good guy Kabal. And wish that he would be a good guy in MK11 and the 2021 movie. Perhaps Legend's 3rd movie might give us this fan service XD
@@The4thSnake sad how most of mk3 characters are not treated well 1-sindel became, well you know 2-kabal is a jobber 3-Smoke disappered 4-sektor and cyrax *sobs* 5-ermac is a guy whos the only function is the say a only line
Really, Jerrod being a part of Ermac and then just winning over all the other thousands of souls is so much better than the "he was weak, so I killed him" part of yet another Sindel retcon.
Honestly if it was actually canon that he won control over Ermac over all the souls, he'd actually prove Twindel wrong and of course he wouldn't take her thirsty ass back. Hell, if this was MKX Ermac with Kahn's soul inside him then that is even more impressive. Jarrod through sheer force of will, took control from thousands of souls, including Kahn himself. Would have been an interesting thing to see past Kahn see his greatest creation be took over by the man he stole everything from and Twindel seeing that her former husband was powerful and even moreso but now despises her.
Most of the retcons don’t hurt the continuity at all…The Lin Quei, Nightwolf, Kung Lao, Kitana, Jade, and Jax being part of the story earlier than originally said hasn’t interfered with how any of it played out. Neither has Kabal’s unexpected twist in origin. It wasn’t a change, we just didn’t know what it was. If anything these changes have only added to the story. QUAN CHI, on the other hand 😬 is debatable.
Nightwolf being a title - and one for whom people are so carefully selected - actually ties in to how the Native Americans based their societal structure on that of wolves, referring to them as "the teachers." Wolves can pick out ideal pack roles from their pheromones quite early into their lives, and have a surprisingly rigid and disciplined hierarchy. I'm wary of giving NRS enough credit to have done that on purpose but...
Wolves don't pick out pack roles. They're just families. Even the guy who first coined the concept of alpha wolves had to walk it back when he observed wolves in the wild and realized packs were just families.
@@TheYpurias yeah much like regular humans the elders teach things to the younger ones and tend to be the most trusted as they are the most experienced. In wolves it’s really just “elders know better” so younger ones are taught important life lessons by the elder ones
@@SuperLumianaire That might be true if women and POCs had equal representation, but they don't as often. Seeing misandry and anti-white under every rock makes you look paranoid and ignorant.
@@Thomas20Smith damn i would’ve loved to see a new nightwolf trying to restore grey wolf nightwolf back to life or straight up trying to kill him so he won’t be a threat/end his suffering as revenant. this gives into my idea that is to also include frost as the lin kuei representative in the kombat kids, as long as her evilness is slowly built up and it can give her more character instead of being “female sektor but cold” as well as the new nightwolf being the shaman representative as they’re very spiritual and earthly and could give us more to this new title thing and more backstory to the shamans in mortal kombat because they have little to none lore. that way we have the kombat kids all representing each faction that protect earthrealm ala: lin kuei, shirai ryu, shaman, white lotus, and special forces. (sf get both jacqui and cassie because nrs are obsessed with special forces obviously, plus we need more females to even out my idea of 6 kombat kids of being 3 male (male nightwolf) and 3 female (with frost) also as they’re unique in a way… well as long as we fix jacqui up… like a lot)
I think what makes the Nightwolf Mantle special is that it A) adds some history to the character and his tribe that doesn't conflict with his backstory, and B) elevates him into one in a long line of powerful warriors that Raiden would be familiar with, rather than just saying "and then a shaman with warrior powers joined his team".
I feel like the Netherrealm itself isn't as terrifying as it was in the Original timeline/Midway Era. You had to have a tainted soul in order to even exist there. And it felt like actual Hell. Now you can send an Earth based army there to fight demons, and it feels more like Mustafar than a afterlife for the condemned.
@@ryanjohnson781 deception did the exact opposite though? Deception was the one who introduced the "tainted soul" concept, and shinnok overthrowing lucifer, and the strung-up corpse decorations, and the chaos god (kochal, god of the oni demons and the one who fucked up chaosrealm and made it chaotic in the first place), etc etc. And that's just netherrealm. Earthrealm gets more stuff, outworld gets more settlements than just shao kahn's palace as well as the introduction of the cryomancers, edenia is actually shown for the first time in game (no stages, but that gets fixed in armageddon), and deception also introduced chaosrealm and orderrealm -as well as the origin story, the one being, and the series' overarching narrative about the struggle between one being vs the elder gods that is a big reason why the plot of the games happens.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 you played konquest? NR was very barren and it wasn’t as threatening to see. Chaos realm suffered the same issue. The only really designed areas were Edenia, Earthrealm, and Orderrealm. Outworld was decent
@@ryanjohnson781 i disagree, as again - twitching corpses the locals in the city strung up and used as decoration. The wastes were a bit barren, but that's the point - nothing but zombies and oni demons are brave enough to walk through the wastes of hell. I would also disagree about chaosrealm. The realm is intentionally fractured into different micro-sections, as prior to kochal unleashing the Tempest that broke the realm - the realm wasn't broken and the pieces of land were drifting about disconnected to each other. I don't really get the criticisms about them not being eerie. Netherrealm has the same level of eerieness it always had, and chaosrealm has the floating coffins, gothic architecture, and Havik. Plus they both have people speaking backwards (while also saying something completely different in subtitles).
@@jaernihiltheus7817 One thing that helped the Netherrealm in the original timeline was the lack of over exposure which added to its mystery. During the pre-Deception games (Mostly MK4) we only really heard about it through character bios and was the place Shinnok was banished (similar to the Bibles Satan being cast from Heaven). Calling the place hell gave it an instinct nightmare level of credibility. This is the place Scorpion and the original Sub Zero had to spend their afterlife. Ashrah had to earn her way out with a special sword only after slaying a certain amount of demons with it. Taven and Shujinko where powerful beings who felt uneasy and tainted just being there. Now the government can send in the Special Forces armed with M4 rifles and grenades to fight through wave after wave of demons.
I like that Raiden is also the lightning god Haokah of the Sioux tribe. It shows that unlike Marvel Comics where multiple gods exist for the same thing, Mortal Kombat has one deity that just happens to have multiple names across the globe.
It implies that it’s not even the mainline canon mortal Kombat and is just a laughable divergence by fanfic writers. A take rather than what’s official.
My favorite ones are definitely Jerrod inside of Ermac & one that wasn't mentioned: Kintaro dying more honorably during the Mortal Kombat X comics instead of the og timeline.
@@enenra6417 that’s true on some occasions, but he does have some valid points here and there as well, I find myself disagreeing with him mostly but I respect his opinions and he usually does suggest some really cool alternative outcomes to certain story and plot elements
I really do have to say I'm really fond of Kabal's retcon. Notably right after he faces Cyber Sub Zero and Sheeva and initially feels he has no choice but to just "go back to being Black Dragon", but when Raiden asks for his help, his VA and the motion capture actor really got across that down inside, he really does want to just help others and keep them out of the past he was forced to endure. While his burned looks are obviously shocking to "normal" people, I think it'd be hard to argue that there wouldn't be people who would find him to be a champion for the disabled (which was part of his initial concept; character has [thing] wrong with them but they end up with various powers because of it).
Having no choice but to go back was actually Midway's take. After almost being killed by Mavado, he felt as though he wouldn't be able to avoid his past that he tried to put behind him. I do like that he managed to avoid that in MK9 even if they retconned it later.
I like Nightwolf’s retcon in MK 11. Gives more to his character then we ever previously had before. However it really is irritating how very little they did with it.
The more I think about MK11s story the more it angers me, with MKX in my opinion having a great set up for the next game to focus on Dark Raiden and the Revenants being the primary antagonists, only for them to go back to being jobbers in MK11 with almost all of their corrupted and angry personalities gone and Dark Raiden being literally deleted from the story. I do think MK11s story has some good moments but overall the sheer amount of retcons and it’s treatment of many of the characters bring the story down a lot, and with ANOTHER possible timeline reset on the way after only 3 games I’m worried we won’t ever see satisfying conclusions for the Revenants or characters like Onaga to have any story relevance ever again…
I will say I disagree with making a Kabal a villain again, mainly because he was supposed to become a vigilante after MK3. Hell, making Kabal and Stryker partners even works with that because you could still have him working with Stryker but within a different context post scarring.
A vigilante and a villain aren't necessarily the same thing. Kabal would work way better as a loose cannon, working with the heroes for some goals and against them for others. It could provide interesting dynamics and exciting plotpoints if the heroes of each game would also have to consider "Do we want to approach Kabal and his splinter cell of the Black Dragon? Or will he refuse to work with us and work against us?" or something along those lines.
@@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 "A vigilante and a villain aren't necessarily the same thing" That's my point. The ending very explicitly says that he devotes his life to fighting injustice. Him even reforming the black dragon to me is horribly out of character. The black dragon were flat out gone and dead until Kabal decides to bring them back as agents of chaos and decay because Havik convinces him somehow. I would buy that if it turned out that Havik used some kind of magic to twist Kabal's mind, but it is always framed as Kabal just deciding to do it despite it not having anything to do with him or his personality. It is the worst case of character assassination in the franchise outside of Sindel.
@@BlackTheBerserker It wasn't entirely Havik's convincing. Part of it was him almost being killed by the Red Dragon despite leaving the Black Dragon. His past followed him.
@@naos8116 But what does reforming the black dragon as an evil faction have to do with going after the red dragon? You don't need to be evil to go after somebody who almost killed you especially when the character is already established as somebody who's going to fight evil anyway, you didn't need to make him evil to have reason to go after them
@@BlackTheBerserker His Deception bio says "to some, I would forever remain associated with that despicable association". To the Red Dragon, he's always Black Dragon, even if he had renounced them a long time ago. I guess he figured he'd embrace it.
I imagine Kabal being sort of like Red Hood from DC comics. Taking over the Black Dragon and using them to either eliminate or control other gangs. In his effort to reduce crime, he becomes the biggest crime lord there is. This could create interesting dynamics between him, Kano, and Stryker.
I don't think it would fit given his personality in MK9. Though if they hadn't retconned it, I could see Revenant Kabal maybe wanting something along those lines in the new era.
this is what i like about the 4th snake, he doesnt just write off all of the netherrealm games, he actually looks into the shit and can admit when they've done something good. it shows he doesnt hate these games just to hate them, but he actually does do his own research, respect.
@@gh0rochi363 It still is. A retcon is any change to events or characters when retelling a story. So changing who lives and dies would definitely be considered a retcon.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming a retcon would be if Johnny died but they just made it later that he didn’t. This was a complete redoing of the timeline and essentially a remake/retelling of the first three games.
Johnny was killed by motaro (I think thats the centaur guys name) in the original timeline. In the netherrealm timeline raiden gets a vision and saves johnny from the centaur guy. Otherwise johnny would have died on that bridge.
I mean it is kinda a retcon, but not in that way. There was a reason for that. However, for example, Mileena being created by the events of the trilogy instead of being raised alongside Kitana has no reason. This is the type of retcon Snake is talking about.
It always seems to end up like this, you have a property that has mounds of potential just sitting there waiting to be plucked. And then the people involved just throw it into the trash for their own fanfiction. As someone who’s a lore nut and appreciates all the pieces coming together, i can sympathize in your frustration in this
That seems to be the case with a lot of things nowadays. All that lore and all those characters that could be given new life and most writers just go to fanfic levels of cringe and just put a minuscule amount of the old lore in. Instead of blending new ideas with some of the old ones that didn’t work out or vice versa
I enjoyed MK9's retcon that Johnny Cage was a descendant from a mediterranean cult which was what gave him his signature powers. And as for the ones on this list - yeah, can't argue with any of those. They were rock solid and went absolutely nowhere. The loss of Good Guy Kabal was especially felt.
I personally am not a fan of that one since it pretty much made him less unique. Instead of being this normal human who trained so hard he's just this strong and can fight monsters from other realms. Oh and that they used that excuse to make Cassie beat the shit out of Shinnok.
@@thegamerfe8751 He always had unexplained magical powers, the story just ignored it previously. And there is still just "a simple guy" who gets to fight monsters from other realms in the roster - his name is Kurtis Stryker.
A next generation Nightwolf would've been a great idea. Too bad they didn't decide to implement it when they tried to do their time skip/next generation story in X. I know it's a cliche at this point but.... "Such wasted potential"
The only time Ashlyn Burch was a perfect voice actress was in MKX, and if they wanted to have a female NightWolf outfit that SJWS wouldn’t find offensive then they could have had that outfit as an optional DLC, and having the main sexy female NightWolf as the main options of the costumes for that character, but instead WB Studios decided to ruin NightWolf as a character, Cassie Cage as a character in MK11, and they replaced Ashlyn Burch with the worst voice actress of all time, and Ashlyn Burch will never have as good as acting performance as Cassie Cage ever again.
Not gonna lie, since this came out on April 1st, I fully expected this video to be just 6 minutes of either a black screen, or Snake just talking about something completely unrelated for a laugh or two. But nah, the video is legit. Good. I'm happy to be wrong.
I think there’s a potentially interesting story for Kabal with the SF and BD. Something about how the path to atonement is long, hard and it’s easy to slide back into bad habits if you don’t have people looking out for you. Sonya and Jax might be willing to work with him but might never be able to fully trust someone who’s been buddies with Kano. Kano who wants him back might use his connections and resources to make things hard for him. Maybe falsifying facts, incriminating him so he looks like a dirty cop. Just something that gives Sonya enough reason to doubt, feeding her distrust and paranoia. Stryker’s his lifeline. Vouching for him and keeping him on the straight and narrow. You know, cop drama stuff.
Yeah, could've had a great dynamic with Kabal but they die around 25 mins after they were introduced, wasted potential at it's finest. I wish they brought back Stryker, he was great in mk9 and could've been made SF as to not arouse controversy from being a cop
Completely agree with you that MK11 should’ve had a new Matokan warrior becoming the new Nightwolf. Shang Tsung’s pre-fight dialogue with Nightwolf references him killing previous Nightwolves could've been stated by revenant Greycloud before the fight or maybe even Shang himself just before taking his soul.
It makes sense to me that Bo Rai Cho trained Liu Kang and Kung Lao. Wasn't the White Lotus Society set up by Raiden to train combatants for the tournament. Surely he would get the best martial artists he could find to help. And this is a way Bo can help without directly entering the tournament. Him training both the shaolin monks makes a ton of sense. But I also think it would be cool if, after they trained with Bo, they went on to train with Raiden and Fujin. Look at it this way: Liu has fire (heat) powers, and his fighting style is fast and direct.... like lightning (lightning is hotter than the surface of the Sun). Kung has wind-based moves, and even how he controls his hat mid-air can be explained as this. It would make sense to me for Raiden and Fujin to get involved in training the White Lotus members, even if some adaptions say they can't do anything at all.
I don't know if anyone cares but can we take a moment to appreciate smoke? Not only do I like his backstory in the new timeline, I generally like his time as a human as well. His friendship with kuai liang was something I adored as it was similar to liu kang and kung lao. I wish he was done better of course, because he went the way of Kabal and became a basic revenant jobber. But I did like the setup for him. I want smoke to be happy in this new timeline. A timeline where he isn't just a slave to someone else's whim and he can let that awesome silver hair roam free with his bro. Perhaps as the relaxed older brother to kuai liang, more willing to cooperate with all parties and forging good relationships with scorpion, tekeda and kenshi (to name a few). I really like smoke and wish the best for him. Can you do a wasted plotential on him? Maybe discuss a battle of wills between him and his literal demon, like a jin and devil jin plot?
Naos,if your a villain in these games your a jobber,if your a good guy your not.Kabal was a villain thus he was condemned to be a jobber.Being an antagonist in NRS games is a curse
@@user-ru6nz6vt7n Well he lost technically in Midway's too, as a good guy. He was almost killed by Mavado, and realizing he won't escape his villainous past, was convinced by Havik to reform the Black Dragon.
Naos,Exactly as a good guy,in the Midway games the villains were allowed to defeat the heroes.But for some reason NRS studios is not okay with that,and that is why they turned all the villains into weak jobbers. I bet it is Dominic Cianciolos fault,because he could easily give villains chapters,so they can showcase their power but for whenever reason,he simply doesn't want to
Hey guys. It only took a few minutes of plot summary research but the '95 movie does mention the 10 wins condition. However, the movie claims that 10 consecutive wins are necessary, which wouldn't work for the games' story structures. Don't forget they also adopted Kano being Australian from the same movie so there's another NRS retcon many fans like.
The funny thing about Kabal and Stryker's retcon is that I had seen them as both partners thanks to Mortal Kombat Annihilation for having rain take both kabal and stryker since the first time I saw that scene.
I think it was just the two MK3 heroes they had to keep out of the film somehow. But yeah, it's funny how that works. They kind of acknowledge it in MK 2021 too, as Kabal is wearing a police uniform and Stryker's badge, Stryker likely being a former partner of his. It's not clear if he killed Stryker or someone else did though.
it's funny how often Kabal and Stryker were, by coincidence, put together in other media before MK9. That in Annihilation, them being next to each other in several kharacter select screens, and Stryker killing Kabal in Armageddon.
@@SpuddyPotato Yeah that is quite a coincidence, but I don't think Stryker killed Kabal in Armageddon, looks like he just blocked his kick and threw him down.
@@Minchken Stryker threw Kabal into the crowd, presumably being crushed. Technically the crowd is what killed him, but Stryker was the one who threw him into it
The retcons I really like were 1) Johnny Cage character arc - I don't think Johnny had much interesting arc in the previous game. In the Netherrealm era not only they showcase his romance with Sonia (something from the movies) but also show him growing from arrogant actor into a more responsible hero. 2) Scorpion and Kuai Liang becoming allies - This is double edge sword. On one hand I agree that having Quan Chi be the one who killed Scorpion's family makes Bi-Han into innocent man who was killed by Scorpion instead of rival who Scorpion killed after their rivalry went to far. However it gives a justifiable reason for him and Kuai Liang to become allies. In the previous timeline I don't see why Scorpion would feel bad for killing Bi-Han. Considering how driven by vengence he was, why would he care for this lin kuei whose brother and clan were responsible for killing his family? Even if only blamed Bi Han, I don't see he deciding to become his brother's protector.
I like those changes, I wouldn't consider them retcons though because they're a result of events occuring differently in the NT. A retcon would be changing a character's backstory since Raiden's actions in the first tournament of the NT shouldn't have effected it in any way, like Mileena being created and awoken in MK2 instead of it being implied that she was created when Kitana was young and raised/trained alongside her like in the original timeline.
Bi Han didn't have direct hand in killing the Shirai Ryu in the original timeline. It was payment for his mission in Mythologies, done by Quan Chi. I'd say Scorpion felt guilt ridden in MK2 regarding Kuai Liang because his own family had been wiped out, and that he was a much different, more compassionate Sub-Zero who spared an opponent.
@@naos8116 Except that it's Scorpion who spares Kuai Liang in the original timeline after discovering that he wasn't Bi Han. If their duel ended with Kuai Liang doing this for Scorpion, that would make more sense, with Scorpion seeing the difference between the two and realizing he made a mistake.
@@alexandrefrauches132 I was referring to MK2. Scorpion's ending states he witnessed Kuai Liang sparing an opponent. Bi Han would not do this. In the comic, it's shown he saves Kuai Liang from I believe Reptile, where he swears to become Kuai Liang's protector. He says "I have a taken a life - Now I must devote myself to protecting one". They don't actually fight (at least till MK4). Kuai Liang's main goal was to assassinate Shang Tsung. He does ask if he should strike Scorpion down since he killed Bi Han but seems conflicted.
Bi-Han never killed Scorpion's family and very indirectly killed his clan by proxy of his arrangement from Quan Chi. Bi-Han is still a ruthless assassin with a lot less morals than his more compassionate and conflicted younger brother. And even if he is "innocent", in Mortal Kombat 11, Noob Saibot clearly relishes in Hanzo's suffering even if it's likely the corruption of his soul.
I actually loved Kabal in Deception, taking something from his past he tried running from and trying to turn it into something he can be proud of. I think combining Kabal's redeeming qualities from 9 with his ambition from Deception is what I'd ideally want for Kabal's character personally.
Kebal had such an interesting plot line in mk9 it honestly amazes me that they didn't use that in mkx to bring him back from being a revanent so he could attempt to save his friend from corruption the same way Striker did for him when he joined the police.
2:50 I want to expand on a thought I had earlier for building a story with Kabal maybe after his burns he and Stryker both join the SF since I’d imagine Sonya and Jax would see Kabal as an invaluable asset being both a speedster and a former black dragon but that’s all he’s be to them as asset no one big Stryker viewing him with any respect with the continuing temptation to go back to the black dragon with Kano Just a thought
If I had to make a tiny addition, it was mentioned by Raiden in the MK2 prequel comic that refusing such a challenge would lessen their standing with the Elder Gods and unbalance the furies. Tsung taking control of the MK Tournament was to unbalance things towards chaos, which would weaken Earth's dimensional barriers and allow him to enter our world. I also think the OG trilogy taking place one after the other is a retcon. MK2 is a bit inconsistent, since some things in the backstory suggests it takes place right after while others suggest a bit of time passed. I always got the impression from MK3's backstory that it takes place a year or two after MK2, due the backstory setup in that game, as well as the info in Mythologies where the whole Sindel thing was stated to take a decade to accomplish. But yeah, these retcons were pretty good. Especially Kabal's, shame they went nowhere with it after 9.
1. This is something I assumed was ALWAYS the case! Khan's counting as ten victories anyway, I didn't know the other fact though! 2. Totally agree. Sometimes I'd rather he be partnered with someone new, rather than Stryker, but I do still like it. 3. This is just clever, I like this too. 4. Again, I had no idea this wasn't always the case. I assumed Bo Rai'Cho had always taught ALL the Shaolin. 5. I like this just because we get to see others. I want to see that female one from that ending in a game.
For as much shit as we give NRS for their fuck-up, you gotta give him credit from time to time for the good they have done because like the saying goes, Even a Broken clock is right twice aday
FINALLY someone who appreciates good guy kabal, yknow there are a lot of villains i love for being bad, but kabal is not one of them. In mk11 he became nothing but just a bad guy of the bunch. At least it was more interesting when he was forced back to using Black Dragon tactics to keep him alive after losing his conection with Stryker, it also gives Stryker a much interesting role rather than just being "Haha police man". Im pretty sure it's also the reason kabal got retconed into a bad guy again, Stryker didn't get added to mk11 so they just want his presence and influence on the story removed entirely.
I feel like nightwolf’s retcon was really just to introduce a female nightwolf. Like why not explore the origins of the great spirit? But there are some pros to it, I’ll admit it
they could just say each nightwolf goes from male to female to male to female or the great spirit chooses a few shamans and they have a little tournament of their own to see who will become the new nightwolf, regardless of gender. we don’t need a female nightwolf, however this is probably explained in real life native tribes so i’m not gonna jump ahead of this idea so much
2:45 Well I mean Kabal could have join the Special Forces since he did help them with the outworld invasion or since Stryker became a vigilante by the time of Armageddon, Kabal could have joined him and they could have become a crime-fighting Duo together I also had this idea that he could join the White Lotus after they use some ancient magic to help heal his injuries (well to a certain extent) and stay as a good guy
I like Kabal's good guy change in MK9 and I was also disappointed when they retconned that in MK11. That being said Kabal in MK11 is my favorite character in the series and my main whenever I play it. I like his snarkyness and his new accent. "Got the spins"
I don't care for Cop Kabal. When his story was "I was a Black Dragon, but then I was mutilated by the same dudes who Kano's supplying weapons to, so I turned on them and decided to strike out at them and people like them as a vigilante", that made sense to me. Saying a known felon just one day decided to go straight, and was allowed into police academy? That does not. I'm pretty sure in the US that people with criminal records literally aren't even allowed to apply. All the stuff you mention can still happen without him being a cop. Did you ever watch Defenders of the Realm? I don't blame you if you didn't, it's pretty bad. There are good elements, though, Kabal's role being one of them. Sonya actually tries to be friends with the guy and shows disgust over the prejudice he faces because of his disfigurement. It wouldn't be hard to just give him a friend. Could be Sonya, like in DotR, or it could be Stryker, adding an element of irony to the whole thing. Stryker could even be kind of like a Gordon to Kabal's Batman.
Yeah, him being allowed to join the police after being a criminal seems odd. Your idea could preserve the characterization he got because of the MK9 backstory and make a bit more real-world sense.
That does not. I'm pretty sure in the US that people with criminal records literally aren't even allowed to apply. Trying to apply realism into your game doesn't prove your point, especially considering the game is filled with gods, ninjas with super powers, sorcerers, and the undead
@@lapplandkun9273 Your argument is that... the supernatural exists. So what? Earthrealm is largely the same in the series anyway and the supernatural stuff didn't make its way into people's lives until MK3 ended, when the OIA was established. Even so, how does that make it any more logical to let a known felon, let alone a former Black Dragon, into the police force?
@@lapplandkun9273 There's a difference between things in-game that aren't real, like undead and gods and other realms, these being fantastical elements that are added as part of speculative fiction, and violations of real-world stuff that has nothing to do with those elements. If the US has different laws that would need to be explained in-universe explanation. If we want to keep Kabal a cop and explain it away, we could just say that they loosened recruitment standards to get more help fighting Outworld.
I really wish they kept Liu Kang dead and carried on with Kung Lao being the hero. He’s a much more interesting character in my opinion with a much cooler move set and fatalities.
I miss a lot good guy Kabal, and he could work as a cop because he is strong, fast and could tie Striker in the story very well, heck make Striker live and Kabal die and make Striker wanting to free Kabal and to start he trains with Sonya and Bo' Rai Cho
I was surprised about the hate the netherrealm games seem to get but then I remember that I mostly paid attention to MK9 (the one with the good retcons), forgot MKX and turned off my brain for MK11, (I was double braindead for aftermath) But yeah, overall the change to Sindel is an AGGRESSIVELY dumb retcon
Ever since Mk9 Kung Lao has been treated with massive disrespect in Mk11 for not being the chosen one like Liu Kang even though he has his own game Shaolin monks and his own TV show Mk conquest not to mention in the original timeline everyone died against the deadly alliance but in mk9 Kung Lao took them down especially shang tsung in his young form including kintaro and goro but everyone still treats him trash even in the movies of Mk21 and in the Mk Legends. IMO Kung Lao is Liu Kang's equal it's just that NRS ruined his character with the new writers
I don't mind the story telling method of the last 3 games (fight, cutscene, fight, cutscene) but I also feel like this is the reason so many characters seem like weak jobbers now. Like back in the day the only canon Ls people took were actually apart of their stories most of the time or in someone's ending which half the time didn't even end up being Canon. So if you loved a particular character you didn't have to really except the idea of them having their ass handed to them by weaker character. Now these days because you need to have a fight in between each cutscene you HAVE to have someone in the receiving end of a beat down. Now characters like kotal Kahn look weak as fuck cause he's a VERY plot relevant character so he often need to appear in the story but because most characters only get 4 missions each it means kotal needs to be on the receiving end of a beat down more often. If Mk11 was an older game we would have just read/heard somewhere that Jade stopped him from executing all the tarkatans. But we could have interpreted that as her talking him out of it or having their soldiers turn on them or freeing the tarkatans in ecret. But instead we know it's because this "great and strong leader" got his ass handed to him by his own woman. Actually I think I just convinced myself that I hate this new formula 😂
The story-telling method could work if they got rid of the chapter system. It worked in DC vs. MK because: A) there was an in-story reason for why each character would win four fights in a row then stop. B) none of the fights felt like padding because there was a good justification for them (they showed how big a problem the Rage was). But the games that followed had no such justification. The best thing would be to use the same method as Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid. By not having character-specific chapters it avoids the restrictions and allows every character to get at least one or two wins.
So many characters seem like weak jobbers because all the villains never get chapters,only the heroes get chapters.Leading the villains to lose constantly.An easy way to fix that is to give the antagonists chapters so they can win,but nrs studios wont do that for some reason
@@Wright805 exactly. I agree it worked better in MK V DC especially for the reason of the story related power fluctuations. That plot also prevented characters who lost from looking weaker than the character who beat them which solves that issue aswell. imo they would be better off putting in a proper campaign mode like they did with Armageddon. Armageddon was good cause it was a new a character whose already pretty powerful to begin with but also gains more power throughout the story so any Ls people have to him are not only justified but you arnt having canonise one character being more powerful than another. Shao kahn, for example went from only ever being beaton by lui kang and taven (who are very respectable people to lose to) to now being beaten by characters several characters who have historicly lost fights to historically mid tear characters cause everyone loses to everyone now That's the main issue with this formula. Too many fights now. Having a fight between 2 roster characters between every cutscene is just too much and it's canonised way too many losses for everyone They need to at least make you fight henchmen so that way the henchmen are jobbers instead of making top their characters into jobbers. And then make the roster character fights more uncommon
I rather still to have Kabal serve in the police force for Earthrealm, and having Sindel from MK 4 where she actually cared about her family and realm, especially KITANA AND JADE
If one can find more, I'm sure people would like to discuss it yes? Because quite frankly there is one you didn't mention, and that is *Smoke's backstory* fr MK9, which was by NRS and (in my opinion) pretty good in their part. If only they'd kept up with those good ideas, instead of going the direction they did...
Think you can do a Wasted Plotential on Resident Evil Code: Veronica X? For one thing, the way the game ended set up an epic final battle between survivors against Umbrella only for RE4 to cut that off in the opening narration, and there's Steve Burnside (I understand not everyone likes him but I'm not one of them) who was hinted to be brought back by Wesker to be used against Chris and Claire; Wesker dies in RE5 and Claire references Steve in Revelations 2 but she doesn't go looking for the guy she references in all the time spent working with Terra-Save, the same guy who she got close to and he professed his love for her before seemingly dying only to be taken, experimented on and hinted to come back.
one thing I liked from the three netherrealm mk games is that they had a few good things in them when it comes to the characters like how in MKX the game and comic gave reptile someone else other than shao kahn to stand by for like a noble reason and with baraka not just being a jobber brute and instead him being the leader for his race. the kabal moments were one better/decent moments of MK9 when kabal entered the story excluding two parts tho
Mdx Que83,i mean he listed all the things he liked from the NRS games so of course it isnt an april fools joke.In the Ermac wasted plotential video,it was very clear that he really liked the Jerrod retcon
Jerrod being part of Ermac had SO MUCH potential for interesting story yet none of the writers did anything with it. They could have made it so that before MK9 story Jerrod managed to unite the souls inside Ermac to destroy the original entity and take control over Ermac's body, all the while pretending to be Ermac in order to plot Shao Kahn's downfall and help Earthrealm that would have freed Edenia in the process.
One thing I liked before the comic shat on it was tremor. Ngl I kinda wanted tremor to had have something and with that dream realm shit and other stuff like becoming as powerful as a god... But nah a shotgun to the shoulder... So much potency and potential.... Then again anything jot mk1 and 2 was basically the point B[. Other things I liked of nrs Era was having human smoke and sub zero being inverted in the cyberizaton and human cyrax and sektor before cyberization. And some more even if not done well or done nothing with. If can have a mix of the best of both the original timeline and nrs Era with a retooling and such...maybe add in some 3d combat gameplay and it be great. SERIOUSLY I want to enjoy shujinkos journey born of deception again...scorpion and his constant vengeance ad arc ,Liu Kang to actually be a monk instead of killing cuz muh fatalities, etc. Make a hard reboot that is consistent,retooled,and isn't shit with limited character chapter systems. Sigh...alas,never to be. In the end mortal kombat is just another victim of those people ruining huge ips for the sake of money and or ulterior motives. Like star wars,star treck, marvel and dc comics,game franchises like this... All ruined and tainted by greedy corperate entities and those they hire to produce the garbage.
@@The4thSnake hmm.... Mkx dlc pack was announced If got it right March 20thof 2015 His debute comic wise was at the end of mkx comic chapter 19 when it was released in May 10th 2015 His trailer was sofar as I looked was July 19th of 2015 Was launched in July 28th of 2015 So he was in the comic before he was launched in the game (Sorry for the edits btw,as I'm typing didn't sleep XD Been fiddling around looking on my vein endeavors to learn to code to where I don't just rely on unreal and unity,etc, to make my games alone. Does that make me nutty?I don't care at this point given other shit I don't want to speak on this section.)
Raise your hand you thought this was an April Fools video and the joke would be he’s trying to justify the bad one with problems Twindel at number 1 Was the timing intentional?
1. Apart of me believed that this could possibly actually be an April Fools Joke and 2. I am really disappointed to what they did with kabal he went from a guy who had a criminal past and joined the cops at the same time so he can redeem himself what a good story but in mk11 he's just a random evil guy in the black dragon mk11's writers are disrespectful bafoons who just want to spread their ideas in a series that don't deserve it
Gameplay dosen't actually matter with what I'm saying cause it's the plot that I'm talking about because nrs I modern times don't care if they rewrite a story of a character
I hate the second Kabal retcon for 2 reasons. The first being that it removes a potentially interesting story arc for the character but also how much of a plot hole it creates in MK11. So he's apparently always been working for the Black Dragon, unless I am wrong, that would mean he was still on Kano's side for MK9, meaning he was on Kahn's side for MK9...so..how did he die? In MK9 he was on the heroes side so he was slaughtered by Sindel but if he WASN'T on the heroes side then who killed him and why? Was he just pretending to be on the heroes side and for some reason didn't betray them when the Lin-Kuei and Sindel attacked? Did Kentaro burning him make him switch sides for two seconds before going back to the evil side? I forget if MK11 even makes the attempt to explain this but he died and became a Revenant because he was on the good side, if he wasn't on the good side, how is he a revenant? Assuming this wasn't explained (please tell me if it was), this just shows how no thought is put in to these changes. What they likely saw as a meaningless retcon now creates a plot hole, good job Netherrealm.
Funny thing about that, is that Geras says: "You will be another of Raiden's victims", which in MKX, the revenants basically talking about that as putting their trust in Raiden is what got them killed. Which means somehow, he still fought alongside the heroes in the invasion, as he did in MK3.
You can't fool me Snake. I know what day it is. Edit: Gotta watch the whole video first before commenting, my stupid self should've known. I don't think this was actually the April Fools video. At least, it doesn't feel like it.
When I played UMK3 (my first MK game) my go to's were Sindel Ermac and Kitana. And then many years later, turns out the three were a family (in Ermac's MK9 ending). Imagine my shock learning that about my 3 favorite characters in the franchise. 😭 Still love it to this day.
Ngl I like to see kabal be a good guy...just with some vigilante on the side...think about it who would want to mess with a guy that looks like that and moves like that
About Kabal in MK11: What if the past Kabal in MK11 was just a version before he joined the NYPD? It would at least make sense for Kronika to bring in characters from before MK9’s events.
honestly sindel’s retcon is still a toss-up for me. sindel was never developed much as character, she get resurrected and is evil (whether that be due to a spell to make her obey shao kahn’s will or because that’s just how she is) and then we never get to really see her again. She was in deception and armageddon, but let’s be honest, i feel like the 3d-era wasn’t as story heavy as the NRS-era is, or the first like three were. If you weren’t the protag in konquest or the antagonist, your story as a character was pretty diluted in the 3d-era. so to me, sindel being evil doesn’t change much as everytime ive seen her in a story heavy way, she’s always been evil, regardless of the reason. I’ll have to see how she’s handled moving forward to see if she gonna be an interesting character, or if i think her place in the story would’ve been better as a hero.
God you picked the worst day to drop this. Not your fault obviously but I playing Schroedingers middle finger looking at this debating if it’s real or not.
Very good reviews about Kabal and Nightwolf. And good lord do I HATE the dumb change/retcon (among many of course) that Mortal Kombat 11 made with Kabal. The concept of him leaving the Black Dragon to actually put his skills to good use with the police force was interesting. Along with Kano trying to lure him back to the baddies' side. But nope. Just toss that aside where he's always an evil prick cuz reasons and too stupid to stop and "think" about if what Kano said about a future Sonya maiming him was even true. That, and having an ending here he and Sareena, a character he's *never* interacted with, are a thing now. If Sareena got with anyone, it could be either of the Sub-Zero brothers (mainly the Elder). And the idea of the Nightwolf we get in MK11 being another with the title after the main one was killed back in MK9 would be interesting indeed. Though I too must admit that if that was the case and the main Nightwolf was just permanently killed like that, yet that would irritate me. 😅
Nightwolf is the original one because he is the one from the past. Per story mode, Kronika attempted to use him as one of her "past" warriors but he refused and she locked him up with Shang Tsung and Fujin so he couldn't get in her way. There hasn't been another game to see if the "title" plays out.
So many people to this day still praise good guy Kabal. And wish that he would be a good guy in MK11 and the 2021 movie. Perhaps Legend's 3rd movie might give us this fan service XD
Nah, he'll be fodder for Sonya to kill.
@@The4thSnake He’s unfortunately another retconned jobber
@@The4thSnake sad how most of mk3 characters are not treated well
1-sindel became, well you know
2-kabal is a jobber
3-Smoke disappered
4-sektor and cyrax *sobs*
5-ermac is a guy whos the only function is the say a only line
@@The4thSnake nah if they can make a good Raiden and make Shao Kahn a threat again then they'll make good guy kabal
@@shawerful5209
6 Styrker only got a good run in MK9
7 Jade actually got off pretty good
8 Rain is a jobber
9 Motaro was never utilited post MK3
Really, Jerrod being a part of Ermac and then just winning over all the other thousands of souls is so much better than the "he was weak, so I killed him" part of yet another Sindel retcon.
Honestly if it was actually canon that he won control over Ermac over all the souls, he'd actually prove Twindel wrong and of course he wouldn't take her thirsty ass back. Hell, if this was MKX Ermac with Kahn's soul inside him then that is even more impressive. Jarrod through sheer force of will, took control from thousands of souls, including Kahn himself. Would have been an interesting thing to see past Kahn see his greatest creation be took over by the man he stole everything from and Twindel seeing that her former husband was powerful and even moreso but now despises her.
Wait a mimute, this sounds familiar...
I sure love how the MK lore has basically become a bunch of retcons held together by chewed bubble gum and Ed Boon's good vibes.
>Ed Boon's eyebrows
ftfy
Ed boom and good vibes…..are you high?
Bro said good vibes.
Become? It always was
Most of the retcons don’t hurt the continuity at all…The Lin Quei, Nightwolf, Kung Lao, Kitana, Jade, and Jax being part of the story earlier than originally said hasn’t interfered with how any of it played out. Neither has Kabal’s unexpected twist in origin. It wasn’t a change, we just didn’t know what it was. If anything these changes have only added to the story.
QUAN CHI, on the other hand 😬 is debatable.
Nightwolf being a title - and one for whom people are so carefully selected - actually ties in to how the Native Americans based their societal structure on that of wolves, referring to them as "the teachers."
Wolves can pick out ideal pack roles from their pheromones quite early into their lives, and have a surprisingly rigid and disciplined hierarchy.
I'm wary of giving NRS enough credit to have done that on purpose but...
Yeah, it was accidental. Especially given how they didn’t utilize another Nightwolf for X during the Kombat Kids part of the trilogy
Wolves don't pick out pack roles. They're just families. Even the guy who first coined the concept of alpha wolves had to walk it back when he observed wolves in the wild and realized packs were just families.
@@TheYpurias yeah much like regular humans the elders teach things to the younger ones and tend to be the most trusted as they are the most experienced. In wolves it’s really just “elders know better” so younger ones are taught important life lessons by the elder ones
@@SuperLumianaire That might be true if women and POCs had equal representation, but they don't as often. Seeing misandry and anti-white under every rock makes you look paranoid and ignorant.
@@Thomas20Smith damn i would’ve loved to see a new nightwolf trying to restore grey wolf nightwolf back to life or straight up trying to kill him so he won’t be a threat/end his suffering as revenant. this gives into my idea that is to also include frost as the lin kuei representative in the kombat kids, as long as her evilness is slowly built up and it can give her more character instead of being “female sektor but cold” as well as the new nightwolf being the shaman representative as they’re very spiritual and earthly and could give us more to this new title thing and more backstory to the shamans in mortal kombat because they have little to none lore. that way we have the kombat kids all representing each faction that protect earthrealm ala: lin kuei, shirai ryu, shaman, white lotus, and special forces. (sf get both jacqui and cassie because nrs are obsessed with special forces obviously, plus we need more females to even out my idea of 6 kombat kids of being 3 male (male nightwolf) and 3 female (with frost) also as they’re unique in a way… well as long as we fix jacqui up… like a lot)
I think what makes the Nightwolf Mantle special is that it A) adds some history to the character and his tribe that doesn't conflict with his backstory, and B) elevates him into one in a long line of powerful warriors that Raiden would be familiar with, rather than just saying "and then a shaman with warrior powers joined his team".
I feel like the Netherrealm itself isn't as terrifying as it was in the Original timeline/Midway Era. You had to have a tainted soul in order to even exist there. And it felt like actual Hell. Now you can send an Earth based army there to fight demons, and it feels more like Mustafar than a afterlife for the condemned.
I blame Deception. That game really watered down some of the realms
@@ryanjohnson781 deception did the exact opposite though?
Deception was the one who introduced the "tainted soul" concept, and shinnok overthrowing lucifer, and the strung-up corpse decorations, and the chaos god (kochal, god of the oni demons and the one who fucked up chaosrealm and made it chaotic in the first place), etc etc.
And that's just netherrealm. Earthrealm gets more stuff, outworld gets more settlements than just shao kahn's palace as well as the introduction of the cryomancers, edenia is actually shown for the first time in game (no stages, but that gets fixed in armageddon), and deception also introduced chaosrealm and orderrealm -as well as the origin story, the one being, and the series' overarching narrative about the struggle between one being vs the elder gods that is a big reason why the plot of the games happens.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 you played konquest? NR was very barren and it wasn’t as threatening to see. Chaos realm suffered the same issue. The only really designed areas were Edenia, Earthrealm, and Orderrealm. Outworld was decent
@@ryanjohnson781 i disagree, as again - twitching corpses the locals in the city strung up and used as decoration. The wastes were a bit barren, but that's the point - nothing but zombies and oni demons are brave enough to walk through the wastes of hell.
I would also disagree about chaosrealm. The realm is intentionally fractured into different micro-sections, as prior to kochal unleashing the Tempest that broke the realm - the realm wasn't broken and the pieces of land were drifting about disconnected to each other.
I don't really get the criticisms about them not being eerie. Netherrealm has the same level of eerieness it always had, and chaosrealm has the floating coffins, gothic architecture, and Havik. Plus they both have people speaking backwards (while also saying something completely different in subtitles).
@@jaernihiltheus7817 One thing that helped the Netherrealm in the original timeline was the lack of over exposure which added to its mystery. During the pre-Deception games (Mostly MK4) we only really heard about it through character bios and was the place Shinnok was banished (similar to the Bibles Satan being cast from Heaven). Calling the place hell gave it an instinct nightmare level of credibility.
This is the place Scorpion and the original Sub Zero had to spend their afterlife. Ashrah had to earn her way out with a special sword only after slaying a certain amount of demons with it. Taven and Shujinko where powerful beings who felt uneasy and tainted just being there. Now the government can send in the Special Forces armed with M4 rifles and grenades to fight through wave after wave of demons.
I like that Raiden is also the lightning god Haokah of the Sioux tribe. It shows that unlike Marvel Comics where multiple gods exist for the same thing, Mortal Kombat has one deity that just happens to have multiple names across the globe.
Funny thing about Marvel is that they actually do both which makes it worse
@@royalrosepetalIt's not even like different people see the same being as a different god depending on their background or expectations either.
"Netherrealm's take on Mortal Kombat" is such a subtle jab, I love it
Huh? I don't follow :o
Yeah someone explain
It implies that it’s not even the mainline canon mortal Kombat and is just a laughable divergence by fanfic writers. A take rather than what’s official.
@@comiccinema8177 thanks for explaining this for a brainlet like me
My favorite ones are definitely Jerrod inside of Ermac & one that wasn't mentioned: Kintaro dying more honorably during the Mortal Kombat X comics instead of the og timeline.
I wish they would do more with kintaro rather than him being a second rate goro
Kintaro's death in the comics was terrible. He was written to be a complete pussy (no pun intended). Didn't feel like a boss character at all.
@@siegfriedc2332 but kintaro doesnt die in the official comics, maybe you are talking about the non canon comics
@@Kn0w-B3tt3r MKX comic. He gets killed by the brainwashed heroes. Sonya pulls his head off.
@@siegfriedc2332 ah yea i remember
It’s gullible to think that snake hates everything about netherrealms take, he just, like me, hates most of it
Kabal’s retcon (from MK9) is proof of this, even back in his early career he applauded Netherrealm for this
@@TheDigitalApple exactly, that actually developed Kabal’s character and gave him a bit more depth
People just cherry pick and want a reason to be angry to make up for their own issues.
his heart is in the right place but he's not 100% competent, he does get shit wrong or make things up a lot
@@enenra6417 that’s true on some occasions, but he does have some valid points here and there as well, I find myself disagreeing with him mostly but I respect his opinions and he usually does suggest some really cool alternative outcomes to certain story and plot elements
I really do have to say I'm really fond of Kabal's retcon. Notably right after he faces Cyber Sub Zero and Sheeva and initially feels he has no choice but to just "go back to being Black Dragon", but when Raiden asks for his help, his VA and the motion capture actor really got across that down inside, he really does want to just help others and keep them out of the past he was forced to endure.
While his burned looks are obviously shocking to "normal" people, I think it'd be hard to argue that there wouldn't be people who would find him to be a champion for the disabled (which was part of his initial concept; character has [thing] wrong with them but they end up with various powers because of it).
Having no choice but to go back was actually Midway's take. After almost being killed by Mavado, he felt as though he wouldn't be able to avoid his past that he tried to put behind him.
I do like that he managed to avoid that in MK9 even if they retconned it later.
He's burned to a crisp and uses respirator to breathe + magic = supreme cardio???
I like Nightwolf’s retcon in MK 11. Gives more to his character then we ever previously had before. However it really is irritating how very little they did with it.
@@SuperLumianaire why no?
The more I think about MK11s story the more it angers me, with MKX in my opinion having a great set up for the next game to focus on Dark Raiden and the Revenants being the primary antagonists, only for them to go back to being jobbers in MK11 with almost all of their corrupted and angry personalities gone and Dark Raiden being literally deleted from the story. I do think MK11s story has some good moments but overall the sheer amount of retcons and it’s treatment of many of the characters bring the story down a lot, and with ANOTHER possible timeline reset on the way after only 3 games I’m worried we won’t ever see satisfying conclusions for the Revenants or characters like Onaga to have any story relevance ever again…
The amulet-powered Dark Raiden would make for such a great Big Bad.
I’m still so disappointed with what they did to dark raiden. Kronika is lame and a time travel story is so cliche.
At least with aftermath wr got shang tsung becoming the big bad again. It was satisfying watching him wreck shao kahn, sindel and kronika
I will say I disagree with making a Kabal a villain again, mainly because he was supposed to become a vigilante after MK3. Hell, making Kabal and Stryker partners even works with that because you could still have him working with Stryker but within a different context post scarring.
A vigilante and a villain aren't necessarily the same thing. Kabal would work way better as a loose cannon, working with the heroes for some goals and against them for others. It could provide interesting dynamics and exciting plotpoints if the heroes of each game would also have to consider "Do we want to approach Kabal and his splinter cell of the Black Dragon? Or will he refuse to work with us and work against us?" or something along those lines.
@@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790
"A vigilante and a villain aren't necessarily the same thing" That's my point. The ending very explicitly says that he devotes his life to fighting injustice. Him even reforming the black dragon to me is horribly out of character. The black dragon were flat out gone and dead until Kabal decides to bring them back as agents of chaos and decay because Havik convinces him somehow. I would buy that if it turned out that Havik used some kind of magic to twist Kabal's mind, but it is always framed as Kabal just deciding to do it despite it not having anything to do with him or his personality. It is the worst case of character assassination in the franchise outside of Sindel.
@@BlackTheBerserker It wasn't entirely Havik's convincing. Part of it was him almost being killed by the Red Dragon despite leaving the Black Dragon. His past followed him.
@@naos8116 But what does reforming the black dragon as an evil faction have to do with going after the red dragon? You don't need to be evil to go after somebody who almost killed you especially when the character is already established as somebody who's going to fight evil anyway, you didn't need to make him evil to have reason to go after them
@@BlackTheBerserker His Deception bio says "to some, I would forever remain associated with that despicable association". To the Red Dragon, he's always Black Dragon, even if he had renounced them a long time ago. I guess he figured he'd embrace it.
I imagine Kabal being sort of like Red Hood from DC comics. Taking over the Black Dragon and using them to either eliminate or control other gangs. In his effort to reduce crime, he becomes the biggest crime lord there is. This could create interesting dynamics between him, Kano, and Stryker.
I don't think it would fit given his personality in MK9. Though if they hadn't retconned it, I could see Revenant Kabal maybe wanting something along those lines in the new era.
Literally becoming Giorno Giovanna
this is what i like about the 4th snake, he doesnt just write off all of the netherrealm games, he actually looks into the shit and can admit when they've done something good. it shows he doesnt hate these games just to hate them, but he actually does do his own research, respect.
Me: Johnny Cage not dying!
Snake: That doesn't count!
Me: ):
Yeah that’s not what a retcon is.
@@gh0rochi363 It still is. A retcon is any change to events or characters when retelling a story. So changing who lives and dies would definitely be considered a retcon.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming a retcon would be if Johnny died but they just made it later that he didn’t. This was a complete redoing of the timeline and essentially a remake/retelling of the first three games.
Johnny was killed by motaro (I think thats the centaur guys name) in the original timeline.
In the netherrealm timeline raiden gets a vision and saves johnny from the centaur guy. Otherwise johnny would have died on that bridge.
I mean it is kinda a retcon, but not in that way. There was a reason for that. However, for example, Mileena being created by the events of the trilogy instead of being raised alongside Kitana has no reason. This is the type of retcon Snake is talking about.
It always seems to end up like this, you have a property that has mounds of potential just sitting there waiting to be plucked.
And then the people involved just throw it into the trash for their own fanfiction. As someone who’s a lore nut and appreciates all the pieces coming together, i can sympathize in your frustration in this
That seems to be the case with a lot of things nowadays. All that lore and all those characters that could be given new life and most writers just go to fanfic levels of cringe and just put a minuscule amount of the old lore in. Instead of blending new ideas with some of the old ones that didn’t work out or vice versa
I’m gonna tell twitter Kabal was a cop for 5 minutes and see how many death threats I get
Good luck
I just realized what day this video was released on. Though this is probably a coincidence
I think the REAL trick is that it's not a prank
I enjoyed MK9's retcon that Johnny Cage was a descendant from a mediterranean cult which was what gave him his signature powers.
And as for the ones on this list - yeah, can't argue with any of those. They were rock solid and went absolutely nowhere. The loss of Good Guy Kabal was especially felt.
I personally am not a fan of that one since it pretty much made him less unique. Instead of being this normal human who trained so hard he's just this strong and can fight monsters from other realms.
Oh and that they used that excuse to make Cassie beat the shit out of Shinnok.
@@thegamerfe8751 He always had unexplained magical powers, the story just ignored it previously. And there is still just "a simple guy" who gets to fight monsters from other realms in the roster - his name is Kurtis Stryker.
@@AllardRT I certainly don't remember that so I don't believe you (jk)
And yes, I know Stryker exists but I was talking about Johnny boi.
A next generation Nightwolf would've been a great idea. Too bad they didn't decide to implement it when they tried to do their time skip/next generation story in X. I know it's a cliche at this point but.... "Such wasted potential"
The only time Ashlyn Burch was a perfect voice actress was in MKX, and if they wanted to have a female NightWolf outfit that SJWS wouldn’t find offensive then they could have had that outfit as an optional DLC, and having the main sexy female NightWolf as the main options of the costumes for that character, but instead WB Studios decided to ruin NightWolf as a character, Cassie Cage as a character in MK11, and they replaced Ashlyn Burch with the worst voice actress of all time, and Ashlyn Burch will never have as good as acting performance as Cassie Cage ever again.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrWhy are you still using "SJWs"..... its not 2016 anymore💀
Not gonna lie, since this came out on April 1st, I fully expected this video to be just 6 minutes of either a black screen, or Snake just talking about something completely unrelated for a laugh or two.
But nah, the video is legit.
Good. I'm happy to be wrong.
I think there’s a potentially interesting story for Kabal with the SF and BD. Something about how the path to atonement is long, hard and it’s easy to slide back into bad habits if you don’t have people looking out for you. Sonya and Jax might be willing to work with him but might never be able to fully trust someone who’s been buddies with Kano. Kano who wants him back might use his connections and resources to make things hard for him. Maybe falsifying facts, incriminating him so he looks like a dirty cop. Just something that gives Sonya enough reason to doubt, feeding her distrust and paranoia. Stryker’s his lifeline. Vouching for him and keeping him on the straight and narrow. You know, cop drama stuff.
My favourite retcon was when they made Stryker a good character and not just diet Johnny Cage.
Too bad Netherrealm decided to drop him soon after.
Yeah, could've had a great dynamic with Kabal but they die around 25 mins after they were introduced, wasted potential at it's finest. I wish they brought back Stryker, he was great in mk9 and could've been made SF as to not arouse controversy from being a cop
There were absolutely zero similarities between Stryker and Cage, I don't know where you got that from
Completely agree with you that MK11 should’ve had a new Matokan warrior becoming the new Nightwolf. Shang Tsung’s pre-fight dialogue with Nightwolf references him killing previous Nightwolves could've been stated by revenant Greycloud before the fight or maybe even Shang himself just before taking his soul.
It makes sense to me that Bo Rai Cho trained Liu Kang and Kung Lao. Wasn't the White Lotus Society set up by Raiden to train combatants for the tournament. Surely he would get the best martial artists he could find to help. And this is a way Bo can help without directly entering the tournament. Him training both the shaolin monks makes a ton of sense. But I also think it would be cool if, after they trained with Bo, they went on to train with Raiden and Fujin. Look at it this way: Liu has fire (heat) powers, and his fighting style is fast and direct.... like lightning (lightning is hotter than the surface of the Sun). Kung has wind-based moves, and even how he controls his hat mid-air can be explained as this.
It would make sense to me for Raiden and Fujin to get involved in training the White Lotus members, even if some adaptions say they can't do anything at all.
An unexpected surprise but a welcomed one
The idea that King Jerrod was Ermac was my favorite and I wish they went along with that.
Good for you Snake. I always appreciate a positive video from you.
Justice for Sindel
I don't know if anyone cares but can we take a moment to appreciate smoke? Not only do I like his backstory in the new timeline, I generally like his time as a human as well. His friendship with kuai liang was something I adored as it was similar to liu kang and kung lao. I wish he was done better of course, because he went the way of Kabal and became a basic revenant jobber. But I did like the setup for him. I want smoke to be happy in this new timeline. A timeline where he isn't just a slave to someone else's whim and he can let that awesome silver hair roam free with his bro. Perhaps as the relaxed older brother to kuai liang, more willing to cooperate with all parties and forging good relationships with scorpion, tekeda and kenshi (to name a few). I really like smoke and wish the best for him. Can you do a wasted plotential on him? Maybe discuss a battle of wills between him and his literal demon, like a jin and devil jin plot?
Kabal being a jobber is a bit weird given his speed has been compared to The Flash.
@@naos8116 Failures in odd places indeed
Naos,if your a villain in these games your a jobber,if your a good guy your not.Kabal was a villain thus he was condemned to be a jobber.Being an antagonist in NRS games is a curse
@@user-ru6nz6vt7n Well he lost technically in Midway's too, as a good guy. He was almost killed by Mavado, and realizing he won't escape his villainous past, was convinced by Havik to reform the Black Dragon.
Naos,Exactly as a good guy,in the Midway games the villains were allowed to defeat the heroes.But for some reason NRS studios is not okay with that,and that is why they turned all the villains into weak jobbers.
I bet it is Dominic Cianciolos fault,because he could easily give villains chapters,so they can showcase their power but for whenever reason,he simply doesn't want to
Kabal being a good guy makes sense for NRS games him being evil kinda defeats the purpose of his death in 9
I always thought that the 10 tournaments idea came from the 1995 movie, guess i was wrong
It might well have. I'm not sure MK2 had any explanation for how the tournament actually works.
Hey guys. It only took a few minutes of plot summary research but the '95 movie does mention the 10 wins condition. However, the movie claims that 10 consecutive wins are necessary, which wouldn't work for the games' story structures. Don't forget they also adopted Kano being Australian from the same movie so there's another NRS retcon many fans like.
@@notsyzagts7967 Kano's been Australian since Special Forces in 2000.
You are one of the only legitimate content creators left on this platform🙏🏻
I thought this was gonna be an April fools joke and he was gonna list all the worst retcons lol
I always liked the idea from Kabal's MK3 ending where he becomes a vigilante
Seemed really cool
Stryker has a similar ending in Armageddon, which is a funny coincidence.
The funny thing about Kabal and Stryker's retcon is that I had seen them as both partners thanks to Mortal Kombat Annihilation for having rain take both kabal and stryker since the first time I saw that scene.
I think it was just the two MK3 heroes they had to keep out of the film somehow. But yeah, it's funny how that works. They kind of acknowledge it in MK 2021 too, as Kabal is wearing a police uniform and Stryker's badge, Stryker likely being a former partner of his. It's not clear if he killed Stryker or someone else did though.
it's funny how often Kabal and Stryker were, by coincidence, put together in other media before MK9. That in Annihilation, them being next to each other in several kharacter select screens, and Stryker killing Kabal in Armageddon.
@@SpuddyPotato Yeah that is quite a coincidence, but I don't think Stryker killed Kabal in Armageddon, looks like he just blocked his kick and threw him down.
@@Minchken Stryker threw Kabal into the crowd, presumably being crushed. Technically the crowd is what killed him, but Stryker was the one who threw him into it
The retcons I really like were
1) Johnny Cage character arc - I don't think Johnny had much interesting arc in the previous game. In the Netherrealm era not only they showcase his romance with Sonia (something from the movies) but also show him growing from arrogant actor into a more responsible hero.
2) Scorpion and Kuai Liang becoming allies - This is double edge sword. On one hand I agree that having Quan Chi be the one who killed Scorpion's family makes Bi-Han into innocent man who was killed by Scorpion instead of rival who Scorpion killed after their rivalry went to far. However it gives a justifiable reason for him and Kuai Liang to become allies. In the previous timeline I don't see why Scorpion would feel bad for killing Bi-Han. Considering how driven by vengence he was, why would he care for this lin kuei whose brother and clan were responsible for killing his family? Even if only blamed Bi Han, I don't see he deciding to become his brother's protector.
I like those changes, I wouldn't consider them retcons though because they're a result of events occuring differently in the NT. A retcon would be changing a character's backstory since Raiden's actions in the first tournament of the NT shouldn't have effected it in any way, like Mileena being created and awoken in MK2 instead of it being implied that she was created when Kitana was young and raised/trained alongside her like in the original timeline.
Bi Han didn't have direct hand in killing the Shirai Ryu in the original timeline. It was payment for his mission in Mythologies, done by Quan Chi. I'd say Scorpion felt guilt ridden in MK2 regarding Kuai Liang because his own family had been wiped out, and that he was a much different, more compassionate Sub-Zero who spared an opponent.
@@naos8116 Except that it's Scorpion who spares Kuai Liang in the original timeline after discovering that he wasn't Bi Han. If their duel ended with Kuai Liang doing this for Scorpion, that would make more sense, with Scorpion seeing the difference between the two and realizing he made a mistake.
@@alexandrefrauches132 I was referring to MK2. Scorpion's ending states he witnessed Kuai Liang sparing an opponent. Bi Han would not do this. In the comic, it's shown he saves Kuai Liang from I believe Reptile, where he swears to become Kuai Liang's protector. He says "I have a taken a life - Now I must devote myself to protecting one". They don't actually fight (at least till MK4). Kuai Liang's main goal was to assassinate Shang Tsung. He does ask if he should strike Scorpion down since he killed Bi Han but seems conflicted.
Bi-Han never killed Scorpion's family and very indirectly killed his clan by proxy of his arrangement from Quan Chi. Bi-Han is still a ruthless assassin with a lot less morals than his more compassionate and conflicted younger brother. And even if he is "innocent", in Mortal Kombat 11, Noob Saibot clearly relishes in Hanzo's suffering even if it's likely the corruption of his soul.
I actually loved Kabal in Deception, taking something from his past he tried running from and trying to turn it into something he can be proud of. I think combining Kabal's redeeming qualities from 9 with his ambition from Deception is what I'd ideally want for Kabal's character personally.
I geniualy want good guy Kabal back but i like your idea, something on mind?
Kebal had such an interesting plot line in mk9 it honestly amazes me that they didn't use that in mkx to bring him back from being a revanent so he could attempt to save his friend from corruption the same way Striker did for him when he joined the police.
Kebal?
Jokes aside, nice comment.
Or they could've done it in MK11 with past Kabal if they didn't retcon his backstory to being a former cop turned Black Dragon.
2:50 I want to expand on a thought I had earlier for building a story with Kabal maybe after his burns he and Stryker both join the SF since I’d imagine Sonya and Jax would see Kabal as an invaluable asset being both a speedster and a former black dragon but that’s all he’s be to them as asset no one big Stryker viewing him with any respect with the continuing temptation to go back to the black dragon with Kano
Just a thought
I think Kabal as Lin Kuei would be an interesting path that makes sense with MK9 Kabals setup before, you know, he dies
I LIKE IT 😮
If I had to make a tiny addition, it was mentioned by Raiden in the MK2 prequel comic that refusing such a challenge would lessen their standing with the Elder Gods and unbalance the furies. Tsung taking control of the MK Tournament was to unbalance things towards chaos, which would weaken Earth's dimensional barriers and allow him to enter our world. I also think the OG trilogy taking place one after the other is a retcon. MK2 is a bit inconsistent, since some things in the backstory suggests it takes place right after while others suggest a bit of time passed. I always got the impression from MK3's backstory that it takes place a year or two after MK2, due the backstory setup in that game, as well as the info in Mythologies where the whole Sindel thing was stated to take a decade to accomplish.
But yeah, these retcons were pretty good. Especially Kabal's, shame they went nowhere with it after 9.
Finally a youtuber with logical thinking when it comes to basic concepts (such as cops in general are a good thing in storytelling)
1. This is something I assumed was ALWAYS the case! Khan's counting as ten victories anyway, I didn't know the other fact though!
2. Totally agree. Sometimes I'd rather he be partnered with someone new, rather than Stryker, but I do still like it.
3. This is just clever, I like this too.
4. Again, I had no idea this wasn't always the case. I assumed Bo Rai'Cho had always taught ALL the Shaolin.
5. I like this just because we get to see others. I want to see that female one from that ending in a game.
For as much shit as we give NRS for their fuck-up, you gotta give him credit from time to time for the good they have done because like the saying goes, Even a Broken clock is right twice aday
FINALLY someone who appreciates good guy kabal, yknow there are a lot of villains i love for being bad, but kabal is not one of them. In mk11 he became nothing but just a bad guy of the bunch. At least it was more interesting when he was forced back to using Black Dragon tactics to keep him alive after losing his conection with Stryker, it also gives Stryker a much interesting role rather than just being "Haha police man". Im pretty sure it's also the reason kabal got retconed into a bad guy again, Stryker didn't get added to mk11 so they just want his presence and influence on the story removed entirely.
I feel like nightwolf’s retcon was really just to introduce a female nightwolf.
Like why not explore the origins of the great spirit?
But there are some pros to it, I’ll admit it
they could just say each nightwolf goes from male to female to male to female or the great spirit chooses a few shamans and they have a little tournament of their own to see who will become the new nightwolf, regardless of gender. we don’t need a female nightwolf, however this is probably explained in real life native tribes so i’m not gonna jump ahead of this idea so much
@@omarslayz 2nd idea of yours is way more better than the 1st one ngl
2:45
Well I mean Kabal could have join the Special Forces since he did help them with the outworld invasion or since Stryker became a vigilante by the time of Armageddon, Kabal could have joined him and they could have become a crime-fighting Duo together
I also had this idea that he could join the White Lotus after they use some ancient magic to help heal his injuries (well to a certain extent) and stay as a good guy
Liu Kang to Kabal in MK11: "With your skills, you should be Shaolin."
I love MK mithology so much but its so underdeveloped that hurts
I like Kabal's good guy change in MK9 and I was also disappointed when they retconned that in MK11.
That being said Kabal in MK11 is my favorite character in the series and my main whenever I play it.
I like his snarkyness and his new accent.
"Got the spins"
I don't care for Cop Kabal. When his story was "I was a Black Dragon, but then I was mutilated by the same dudes who Kano's supplying weapons to, so I turned on them and decided to strike out at them and people like them as a vigilante", that made sense to me.
Saying a known felon just one day decided to go straight, and was allowed into police academy? That does not. I'm pretty sure in the US that people with criminal records literally aren't even allowed to apply.
All the stuff you mention can still happen without him being a cop. Did you ever watch Defenders of the Realm? I don't blame you if you didn't, it's pretty bad. There are good elements, though, Kabal's role being one of them. Sonya actually tries to be friends with the guy and shows disgust over the prejudice he faces because of his disfigurement. It wouldn't be hard to just give him a friend. Could be Sonya, like in DotR, or it could be Stryker, adding an element of irony to the whole thing. Stryker could even be kind of like a Gordon to Kabal's Batman.
Yeah, him being allowed to join the police after being a criminal seems odd. Your idea could preserve the characterization he got because of the MK9 backstory and make a bit more real-world sense.
That does not. I'm pretty sure in the US that people with criminal records literally aren't even allowed to apply.
Trying to apply realism into your game doesn't prove your point, especially considering the game is filled with gods, ninjas with super powers, sorcerers, and the undead
@@lapplandkun9273 Your argument is that... the supernatural exists. So what? Earthrealm is largely the same in the series anyway and the supernatural stuff didn't make its way into people's lives until MK3 ended, when the OIA was established.
Even so, how does that make it any more logical to let a known felon, let alone a former Black Dragon, into the police force?
@@lapplandkun9273 There's a difference between things in-game that aren't real, like undead and gods and other realms, these being fantastical elements that are added as part of speculative fiction, and violations of real-world stuff that has nothing to do with those elements. If the US has different laws that would need to be explained in-universe explanation. If we want to keep Kabal a cop and explain it away, we could just say that they loosened recruitment standards to get more help fighting Outworld.
Ooooh I like this
My favorite recon (if it is one) is giving smoke a personality and something cool
Like before mk9. Smoke had nothing instresting
I can't wait to see the top 5 bad retcons of MK.
*reads title*
Doth my eyes decieve me?
I really wish they kept Liu Kang dead and carried on with Kung Lao being the hero. He’s a much more interesting character in my opinion with a much cooler move set and fatalities.
More interesting character, really?
Watching this video again reminded me about a Kabal, Erron Black & Skarlet wasted potential video, hope it's still in the works.
I miss a lot good guy Kabal, and he could work as a cop because he is strong, fast and could tie Striker in the story very well, heck make Striker live and Kabal die and make Striker wanting to free Kabal and to start he trains with Sonya and Bo' Rai Cho
I was surprised about the hate the netherrealm games seem to get but then I remember that I mostly paid attention to MK9 (the one with the good retcons), forgot MKX and turned off my brain for MK11, (I was double braindead for aftermath)
But yeah, overall the change to Sindel is an AGGRESSIVELY dumb retcon
Kabal in the 2011 is what made him one of my favorite characters. I actually own a pair of hook swords because I like him so much.
Ever since Mk9 Kung Lao has been treated with massive disrespect in Mk11 for not being the chosen one like Liu Kang even though he has his own game Shaolin monks and his own TV show Mk conquest not to mention in the original timeline everyone died against the deadly alliance but in mk9 Kung Lao took them down especially shang tsung in his young form including kintaro and goro but everyone still treats him trash even in the movies of Mk21 and in the Mk Legends. IMO Kung Lao is Liu Kang's equal it's just that NRS ruined his character with the new writers
I agree, Lao is completely disrespected, and wasn't a joke in 2, 3 or Shoalin Monks. However MK conquest is about his ancestor great Kung Lao.
I don't mind the story telling method of the last 3 games (fight, cutscene, fight, cutscene) but I also feel like this is the reason so many characters seem like weak jobbers now.
Like back in the day the only canon Ls people took were actually apart of their stories most of the time or in someone's ending which half the time didn't even end up being Canon. So if you loved a particular character you didn't have to really except the idea of them having their ass handed to them by weaker character.
Now these days because you need to have a fight in between each cutscene you HAVE to have someone in the receiving end of a beat down. Now characters like kotal Kahn look weak as fuck cause he's a VERY plot relevant character so he often need to appear in the story but because most characters only get 4 missions each it means kotal needs to be on the receiving end of a beat down more often.
If Mk11 was an older game we would have just read/heard somewhere that Jade stopped him from executing all the tarkatans. But we could have interpreted that as her talking him out of it or having their soldiers turn on them or freeing the tarkatans in ecret. But instead we know it's because this "great and strong leader" got his ass handed to him by his own woman.
Actually I think I just convinced myself that I hate this new formula 😂
The story-telling method could work if they got rid of the chapter system. It worked in DC vs. MK because:
A) there was an in-story reason for why each character would win four fights in a row then stop.
B) none of the fights felt like padding because there was a good justification for them (they showed how big a problem the Rage was).
But the games that followed had no such justification.
The best thing would be to use the same method as Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid. By not having character-specific chapters it avoids the restrictions and allows every character to get at least one or two wins.
So many characters seem like weak jobbers because all the villains never get chapters,only the heroes get chapters.Leading the villains to lose constantly.An easy way to fix that is to give the antagonists chapters so they can win,but nrs studios wont do that for some reason
@@Wright805 exactly. I agree it worked better in MK V DC especially for the reason of the story related power fluctuations. That plot also prevented characters who lost from looking weaker than the character who beat them which solves that issue aswell.
imo they would be better off putting in a proper campaign mode like they did with Armageddon. Armageddon was good cause it was a new a character whose already pretty powerful to begin with but also gains more power throughout the story so any Ls people have to him are not only justified but you arnt having canonise one character being more powerful than another.
Shao kahn, for example went from only ever being beaton by lui kang and taven (who are very respectable people to lose to) to now being beaten by characters several characters who have historicly lost fights to historically mid tear characters cause everyone loses to everyone now
That's the main issue with this formula. Too many fights now. Having a fight between 2 roster characters between every cutscene is just too much and it's canonised way too many losses for everyone
They need to at least make you fight henchmen so that way the henchmen are jobbers instead of making top their characters into jobbers. And then make the roster character fights more uncommon
I rather still to have Kabal serve in the police force for Earthrealm, and having Sindel from MK 4 where she actually cared about her family and realm, especially KITANA AND JADE
Please bring up how eran went from a slow aging cowboy into a cosplayer in the wasted potential
No April fools. I was expecting the worst changes. So like 99% of them
If one can find more, I'm sure people would like to discuss it yes? Because quite frankly there is one you didn't mention, and that is *Smoke's backstory* fr MK9, which was by NRS and (in my opinion) pretty good in their part.
If only they'd kept up with those good ideas, instead of going the direction they did...
3:51 aged like milk
I saw the title of this, and then looked at the date and I went in 100% expecting it to be a complete piss take 😅
Think you can do a Wasted Plotential on Resident Evil Code: Veronica X? For one thing, the way the game ended set up an epic final battle between survivors against Umbrella only for RE4 to cut that off in the opening narration, and there's Steve Burnside (I understand not everyone likes him but I'm not one of them) who was hinted to be brought back by Wesker to be used against Chris and Claire; Wesker dies in RE5 and Claire references Steve in Revelations 2 but she doesn't go looking for the guy she references in all the time spent working with Terra-Save, the same guy who she got close to and he professed his love for her before seemingly dying only to be taken, experimented on and hinted to come back.
Im from the future Jarrod being Ermac is canon now 🎉
one thing I liked from the three netherrealm mk games is that they had a few good things in them when it comes to the characters like how in MKX the game and comic gave reptile someone else other than shao kahn to stand by for like a noble reason and with baraka not just being a jobber brute and instead him being the leader for his race. the kabal moments were one better/decent moments of MK9 when kabal entered the story excluding two parts tho
Can't tell if genuine or not but regardless I do agree with these retcons.
Probs genuine from what I am seeing
@@nabilahmed579 does kinda seem like it, since these are good points
Mdx Que83,i mean he listed all the things he liked from the NRS games so of course it isnt an april fools joke.In the Ermac wasted plotential video,it was very clear that he really liked the Jerrod retcon
I think that if they brought back the Kombat kids, they should have a younger Nightwolf to join
I think kabal being best friends with stryker is my personal favorite I think it's sweet how much kabal cares for his friend
Not gonna lie half of me thought this was an April fool's joke.
Jerrod being part of Ermac had SO MUCH potential for interesting story yet none of the writers did anything with it.
They could have made it so that before MK9 story Jerrod managed to unite the souls inside Ermac to destroy the original entity and take control over Ermac's body, all the while pretending to be Ermac in order to plot Shao Kahn's downfall and help Earthrealm that would have freed Edenia in the process.
One thing I liked before the comic shat on it was tremor.
Ngl I kinda wanted tremor to had have something and with that dream realm shit and other stuff like becoming as powerful as a god...
But nah a shotgun to the shoulder...
So much potency and potential....
Then again anything jot mk1 and 2 was basically the point B[.
Other things I liked of nrs Era was having human smoke and sub zero being inverted in the cyberizaton and human cyrax and sektor before cyberization.
And some more even if not done well or done nothing with.
If can have a mix of the best of both the original timeline and nrs Era with a retooling and such...maybe add in some 3d combat gameplay and it be great.
SERIOUSLY I want to enjoy shujinkos journey born of deception again...scorpion and his constant vengeance ad arc ,Liu Kang to actually be a monk instead of killing cuz muh fatalities, etc.
Make a hard reboot that is consistent,retooled,and isn't shit with limited character chapter systems.
Sigh...alas,never to be.
In the end mortal kombat is just another victim of those people ruining huge ips for the sake of money and or ulterior motives.
Like star wars,star treck, marvel and dc comics,game franchises like this...
All ruined and tainted by greedy corperate entities and those they hire to produce the garbage.
To be fair, wasn't Tremor's comic appearance before he was added as DLC?
@@The4thSnake hmm....
Mkx dlc pack was announced If got it right March 20thof 2015
His debute comic wise was at the end of mkx comic chapter 19 when it was released in May 10th 2015
His trailer was sofar as I looked was July 19th of 2015
Was launched in July 28th of 2015
So he was in the comic before he was launched in the game
(Sorry for the edits btw,as I'm typing didn't sleep XD Been fiddling around looking on my vein endeavors to learn to code to where I don't just rely on unreal and unity,etc, to make my games alone. Does that make me nutty?I don't care at this point given other shit I don't want to speak on this section.)
Raise your hand you thought this was an April Fools video and the joke would be he’s trying to justify the bad one with problems Twindel at number 1
Was the timing intentional?
a new nightwolf would've been a perfect addition to the kombat kids to be a 5 man band
4thSnake: *Throws a temper tantrum every time NRS inserts politics into MK*
Also 4thSnake: 3:14
Hello fellow human, this is what we call a joke.
Pre mk 11 Kabal is my second favourite mk character I wish we could’ve seen more of him and Stryker especially post burn
1. Apart of me believed that this could possibly actually be an April Fools Joke and 2. I am really disappointed to what they did with kabal he went from a guy who had a criminal past and joined the cops at the same time so he can redeem himself what a good story but in mk11 he's just a random evil guy in the black dragon mk11's writers are disrespectful bafoons who just want to spread their ideas in a series that don't deserve it
It's a shame because I love how he plays, he's my main.
Gameplay dosen't actually matter with what I'm saying cause it's the plot that I'm talking about because nrs I modern times don't care if they rewrite a story of a character
@@antwoneallwood2293 I know. I'm just saying it sucks my main was done so dirty.
I think Noob Saibot being bi Han was my favorite
That's from Deception.
@@The4thSnake yeah should have read the title didn't realize you said netherrealm not Mortal Kombat in General
2:46 THATS ARMAGEDDON FOOTAGE
It is.
Do I want to know how long it took you to come up with 5 actually good changes in the Netherrealm era?
Well it's uploaded before 1200 BST so this should be good.
Edit: Oh. That was pleasantly surprising.
I don't think that rule applies with online content.
@@The4thSnake What can I say? In the UK we understand the importance of not running an idea into the ground ;)
I hate the second Kabal retcon for 2 reasons. The first being that it removes a potentially interesting story arc for the character but also how much of a plot hole it creates in MK11. So he's apparently always been working for the Black Dragon, unless I am wrong, that would mean he was still on Kano's side for MK9, meaning he was on Kahn's side for MK9...so..how did he die? In MK9 he was on the heroes side so he was slaughtered by Sindel but if he WASN'T on the heroes side then who killed him and why? Was he just pretending to be on the heroes side and for some reason didn't betray them when the Lin-Kuei and Sindel attacked? Did Kentaro burning him make him switch sides for two seconds before going back to the evil side? I forget if MK11 even makes the attempt to explain this but he died and became a Revenant because he was on the good side, if he wasn't on the good side, how is he a revenant? Assuming this wasn't explained (please tell me if it was), this just shows how no thought is put in to these changes. What they likely saw as a meaningless retcon now creates a plot hole, good job Netherrealm.
Funny thing about that, is that Geras says: "You will be another of Raiden's victims", which in MKX, the revenants basically talking about that as putting their trust in Raiden is what got them killed. Which means somehow, he still fought alongside the heroes in the invasion, as he did in MK3.
You can't fool me Snake. I know what day it is.
Edit: Gotta watch the whole video first before commenting, my stupid self should've known. I don't think this was actually the April Fools video. At least, it doesn't feel like it.
When I played UMK3 (my first MK game) my go to's were Sindel Ermac and Kitana. And then many years later, turns out the three were a family (in Ermac's MK9 ending). Imagine my shock learning that about my 3 favorite characters in the franchise. 😭 Still love it to this day.
Ngl I like to see kabal be a good guy...just with some vigilante on the side...think about it who would want to mess with a guy that looks like that and moves like that
I love how like most of them are MK9 retcons.
I’m glad to hear someone say MK11 was garbage, I feel like no one talks about it.
They also made Sindel evil. That was an interesting change right?
About Kabal in MK11: What if the past Kabal in MK11 was just a version before he joined the NYPD? It would at least make sense for Kronika to bring in characters from before MK9’s events.
I disagree with your opinion on the timelines but i agree with all your retcons, good video :)
Great video. I was pleasantly surprised to see this was a normal video and not April Fools. lol
honestly sindel’s retcon is still a toss-up for me. sindel was never developed much as character, she get resurrected and is evil (whether that be due to a spell to make her obey shao kahn’s will or because that’s just how she is) and then we never get to really see her again. She was in deception and armageddon, but let’s be honest, i feel like the 3d-era wasn’t as story heavy as the NRS-era is, or the first like three were. If you weren’t the protag in konquest or the antagonist, your story as a character was pretty diluted in the 3d-era. so to me, sindel being evil doesn’t change much as everytime ive seen her in a story heavy way, she’s always been evil, regardless of the reason. I’ll have to see how she’s handled moving forward to see if she gonna be an interesting character, or if i think her place in the story would’ve been better as a hero.
Shocked this wasn’t an April fools bit
God you picked the worst day to drop this. Not your fault obviously but I playing Schroedingers middle finger looking at this debating if it’s real or not.
Very good reviews about Kabal and Nightwolf. And good lord do I HATE the dumb change/retcon (among many of course) that Mortal Kombat 11 made with Kabal. The concept of him leaving the Black Dragon to actually put his skills to good use with the police force was interesting. Along with Kano trying to lure him back to the baddies' side. But nope. Just toss that aside where he's always an evil prick cuz reasons and too stupid to stop and "think" about if what Kano said about a future Sonya maiming him was even true. That, and having an ending here he and Sareena, a character he's *never* interacted with, are a thing now. If Sareena got with anyone, it could be either of the Sub-Zero brothers (mainly the Elder).
And the idea of the Nightwolf we get in MK11 being another with the title after the main one was killed back in MK9 would be interesting indeed. Though I too must admit that if that was the case and the main Nightwolf was just permanently killed like that, yet that would irritate me. 😅
Nightwolf is the original one because he is the one from the past. Per story mode, Kronika attempted to use him as one of her "past" warriors but he refused and she locked him up with Shang Tsung and Fujin so he couldn't get in her way. There hasn't been another game to see if the "title" plays out.
Almost think this a April fool joke