Emma Webbers Heartfelt Plea to Police Officers After 'Dehumanising' WhatsApp Messages

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  • Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
  • Emma Webber, whose son Barnaby was killed in the Nottingham attacks, has written a letter to beg Police officers to think about the way they speak about victims. The attack resulted in the deaths of Barnaby Webber, his friend Grace O'Malley-Kumar, and Ian Coates.
    It comes after an officer revealed graphic details of their injuries in a police WhatsApp group. Emma says that the language used to describe her son 'horrified' her and has caused trauma to the victim's families.
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  • @abbiebrown2733
    @abbiebrown2733 10 дней назад +35

    Barney , Grace and Ian deserve respect and dignity. Justice will be served ❤

    • @2_thumbs_up_baby
      @2_thumbs_up_baby 9 дней назад

      Will it
      I hope so but i don't count on it when the law are the perpetrators

    • @caramelbilquees
      @caramelbilquees 2 дня назад

      I think his name was Barnaby

  • @marthal8862
    @marthal8862 10 дней назад +24

    The same disgusting thing happened to Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman, except they shared pictures of their corpses. The police aren’t fit for purpose, this stuff needs to be cracked down on. It’s unacceptable. If they don’t see us as humans deserving of basic respect even in death, how are they supposed to properly police us?

  • @leighannclements7849
    @leighannclements7849 10 дней назад +32

    Poor lady we all stand with you we send much love your son would be soo proud of you❤️

  • @Maria7Maria
    @Maria7Maria 10 дней назад +14

    This is horrendous, sadly it’s not only police who talk like this about the people they are meant to protect and serve. I have been a support worker for vulnerable people and can tell you, the NHS, council staff, job centre workers, teachers ALL talk about the public in degrading and dehumanising ways. The state of this country, respect is gone and everyone is angry, depressed or just plain nasty.

  • @abbiebrown2733
    @abbiebrown2733 10 дней назад +17

    Emma is very brave. Emma loves her son and emma wants her son to be remembered as a beautiful soul who had a future and a fulfilling life ❤

  • @pagliacci2942
    @pagliacci2942 10 дней назад +17

    Poor woman. She's admirable. Not the language I would have used, and it indeed trivializes their murders as well as makes them voyeurism. The problem is that this guy is probably not raised very well and doesn't possess basic language skills. There should be a code of ethics and he should have received discipline for unnecessarily communicating about it on a chat app. I don't know how the rest of the messages went, but there is an issue of class, education, and social media underlying all of this. I wish the mother and all the families the best.

    • @philiphaseldine1135
      @philiphaseldine1135 10 дней назад +1

      The family were not being addressed. They were private messages. No need for any of this to come out.

  • @2_thumbs_up_baby
    @2_thumbs_up_baby 10 дней назад +28

    Doesn't shock me. Nothing with the cops shock me now. They are never held accountable. Frame innocent people etc.

    • @philiphaseldine1135
      @philiphaseldine1135 10 дней назад +1

      Erm, you know that's what a criminal would say, right?

    • @marjorieorveau6707
      @marjorieorveau6707 10 дней назад +1

      Not many people want to join the police force so they're walking on a tight line... it used to be a respectable career...

    • @2_thumbs_up_baby
      @2_thumbs_up_baby 9 дней назад +1

      @@philiphaseldine1135 i have a cop in the family whose terrorising us at present. So i think i know more than you

  • @KeyserSolsi
    @KeyserSolsi 10 дней назад +19

    Sack the chief constable. His whole force is rotten. He's had enough time to sort it out and failed!!
    Next he will arrest Jews for walking in public while the hate marches continue and get more violent.

    • @wash85
      @wash85 10 дней назад

      What hate marches. The one that a calling for a ceasefire?? What's hateful about that?

  • @joannalayen9722
    @joannalayen9722 9 дней назад +5

    Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the police not at all acceptable

  • @joannalayen9722
    @joannalayen9722 9 дней назад +3

    I'm really really bothered by people's lack of principal and moral standards

  • @neuralwarp
    @neuralwarp 10 дней назад +5

    Your boss can't just steal a letter someone sends you. That's a crime.

  • @H-youtube7
    @H-youtube7 10 дней назад +8

    How / why was this shared with victims family, who benefits? Of course police will use harsh language, they weren't speaking publicly. What kind of things do you think are said in the military? This poor woman, why's she being made to deal with this.

  • @melgrant7404
    @melgrant7404 10 дней назад +4

    Does anyone know how the messages were leaked.

  • @eileenboles8645
    @eileenboles8645 10 дней назад +2

    Amazing woman.

  • @Robby334
    @Robby334 10 дней назад +3

    This is all down to social media - So much abused

  • @georginacat7667
    @georginacat7667 5 дней назад +1

    This has gone on for a million years, when you work with traumatic stuff. You need to dehumanise. Other wise its not possible.

  • @abbiebrown2733
    @abbiebrown2733 10 дней назад +6

    Emma needs to fight for Barney's law ❤

  • @colettegibson6516
    @colettegibson6516 9 дней назад +1

    I've heard officers say they have to be like this to a certain extent to not suffer from the consistency of seeing/working in such horrific circumstances. Ambulance and fire the same, which i understand and the general public/victims generally don't, unfortunately.
    Not that I'm condoning it

  • @ramadamming8498
    @ramadamming8498 10 дней назад +5

    It is not the best way or that nice to read -- but fact is police are faced with this kind of stuff a lot and so is it really surprising they speak in frank and blunt ways?

  • @louise6119
    @louise6119 5 дней назад

    Heartbroken for them I honestly don’t think the police are trained or equipped for matters like these. I know people in the police force and I dread to think how they would respond to this, not a brain cell between them

  • @cohen855
    @cohen855 10 дней назад +3

    It's called being able to deal with everyday scenes 99% wouldn't be able to cope with

    • @snsn7251
      @snsn7251 10 дней назад +2

      Well said. This is a nonsense and she needs to go and grieve her son. The police have to see a lot and took no pleasure in seeing those people dead. Who knows if those police have got PTSD from the scene?!

  • @adrianlunnon3514
    @adrianlunnon3514 9 дней назад

    Its absolutely disgusting these vile individuals should be sacked pensions stripped named and shamed. Clearly, they have morals or respect.

  • @melgrant7404
    @melgrant7404 10 дней назад

    Asking the impossible .

  • @amberwild-ms4co
    @amberwild-ms4co 6 дней назад

    It's difficult to judge without knowing what was in the other messages but on what has been disclosed I can't see this as anything other than individuals processing horrific things they had seen with colleagues who could relate to their trauma. They were not mocking the victims or trivialising what happened and they never intended the messages to be made public. We need to remember that police officers are humans and they see unimaginable things which would affect anyone. Same as medical staff - people go in with foreign objects stuck in various orrifices, do you really think they're not rolling around laughing about it in the staff room? The issue is that this was shared outside the group chat which obviously caused more pain for the families who didn't need to see it

    • @Justin-wj4yc
      @Justin-wj4yc 5 дней назад

      Did you just compare a toy accident to a person murdered? Wha's wrong with you?

    • @amberwild-ms4co
      @amberwild-ms4co 5 дней назад

      @Justin-wj4yc of course not, how on earth did you get that from my post?! The comparison was between police officers and medical professionals, ie humans who see and deal with things completely beyond the realms of what the rest of us see and the private coping strategies being very different to the professional face

  • @lauramenzies9042
    @lauramenzies9042 8 дней назад

    Absolutely shocking behavior from the police!

  • @lesleyhancox1860
    @lesleyhancox1860 10 дней назад +3

    So disgusting

  • @adriancopland6843
    @adriancopland6843 10 дней назад +6

    She not right,if she saw what the police saw every day ,you do say things as you see them,it was a private chat ,freedom of speech has to be protected !!! Esp private chats at the sharp end of life

    • @philiphaseldine1135
      @philiphaseldine1135 10 дней назад +2

      I didn't understand why describing them as students was offensive. They were. Like you say it was a private message. And we don't know what the other messages said so it just becomes the usual "the police are awful" din of angry villagers with their pitchforks on YT. None of this helps the grieving family. I am very untrustworthy of people who don't trust the police.

    • @msfyzad
      @msfyzad 10 дней назад +1

      Exactly

    • @eileenboles8645
      @eileenboles8645 10 дней назад

      @@philiphaseldine1135 But why did so many of them access info on the crime that they werent authorised to access? Voyuerism plain & simple.

    • @Justin-wj4yc
      @Justin-wj4yc 5 дней назад

      Found the looseeeeer

  • @firey9998
    @firey9998 9 дней назад +5

    This is a ridiculous story.
    Police, fire and ambulance see stuff which the general public will never have to deal with. They witness death and destruction on a daily basis. So to them it’s just normalised to speak in certain ways which may come across as disrespectful, it just a coping mechanisms for them to not take it seriously, and take the emotional element out of it, if you didnt you wouldn’t last long at all. There are absolutely lines you shouldn’t cross, which unfortunately have been in the past. But for me this isn’t one of them times.
    Also this was a private message, it was never meant to be made public. I find it really hard to agree with what she is saying here.

    • @user-cf5kl4dw7o
      @user-cf5kl4dw7o 9 дней назад +1

      No it was totally disrespectful!! It's about empathy, compassion & respect for any human life taken in such a brutal way! Shouldn't be doing the job if you don't have any of those traits!!!

    • @lauramenzies9042
      @lauramenzies9042 8 дней назад

      The problem is, it wasn't your son hence you do not understand!!

    • @Justin-wj4yc
      @Justin-wj4yc 5 дней назад

      Nah, you're just aloof. It's a character deficit

  • @msfyzad
    @msfyzad 10 дней назад +7

    Wasnt that meant to just for colleagues to explain the exact situation? I dont think it was for the public...why make a big deal ? I am sure the police officers would never use it for public

    • @kimgrant3879
      @kimgrant3879 9 дней назад +1

      They hid their conversations on private messages. They still shouldn't have shared this stuff if its offensive. They got caught.