@@geekinwithJamesHancock I really loved that film on video when I was 8. This is what got me into Tolkien. Recently bought two copies on DVD from poundland.
Wow, that was a quick hour and 12 minites. Loved your take on the Tolkien adaptations and am in complete agreement. I saw the Bakshi LOTR when it came out in the theater. I went with a buddy. We had to beg and plead with my dad to drive us to a theater 45 minutes away so we could see it. The rotoscoped scenes absolutely blew me away and to this day I love them. It's a damn shame they werent able to finish the tale.
It kills me that Bakshi only got to do his first movie. I've never understood why. In spite of some critical backlash, the first movie made money. Or perhaps he was ready to move on to some passion projects like American Pop. Thanks for checking out my video!
I was the first one in the theatre in 1978 to see Bakshi's LOTR. It was so amazing to finally see what I had been reading about, and had only seen illustrated in The Brother's Hildebrandt Tolkien Calendars. Then right next door to the Theater in "Blue Star Mall" in Watchung New Jersey was Toys R Us, where I purchased the Ringwraith figure. I was an amazing time because everything was new then and the world wasn't flooded with crap.
A couple of scenes that still wrench on my heart every time in Jackson's trilogy are when Aragorn tells the boy at Helm's Deep 'there is always hope' with a reassuring hand on his shoulder, and Eowyn and Merry taking down the Witch King. 'I am no man' was so poetic because Eowyn was told to go home and Merry was laughed at by Eomer and fellow soldiers and yet they are the ones who kill the big bad in the battle. That trilogy has so many emotional gut punches that still hit today.
In the books Helm's Deep is filled with warriors as the women, children and aged were sent to safety in Dunharrow. I can't get over what I find to be a stupid change.
Yes I have this in the original 26, 30 minute episodes, I remember listening to it when it was first aired and it blew me away. Ian Holm as Frodo, Robert Stephens as Aragorn, Michael Hordern as Gandalf, Peter Woodthorpe as Gollum, John Le Mesurier as Bilbo, the great David Collings ad Legolas and Michael Graham Cox back as Boromir. Absolutely must check it out
@@chucksire7116 I believe if you search Lord of The Rings Radio 4 Play in Google it will come back with a soundcloud option where they have all episodes uploaded for free
One of the craziest things about the Shadow games is that it’s essentially a reskin of a Batman game that Monolith was working on. The nemesis system, the stealth/combat loop, and the open world setting were all designed around Bats, so when they had to switch properties, they essentially made Talion into a Tolkien Bruce Wayne. God knows it worked, but still blows my mind that it did.
I was totally bewildered by the Nemesis system initially but rapidly became a massive fan. I must have invested a few hundred hours into these two games at this point.
I completely agree with pretty much everything you say here. All the feelings, all the emotions you expressed about looking at all these great artworks watching these incredible movies. My teenage years in the 90s were spent reading the books and gazing into the art of Alan lee, John Howe etc. Just when I finished all of the books the Jackson movies came out. I feel the timing couldn't have been better. I feel Tolkien has and will always be important in my life!
I'm right there with you. I go through periods where I take a break from his work, but each time I revisit his books I fall in love with Tolkien all over again.
So glad I saw fellowship 5 times in the cinema, two times for the two towers and three times for the return of the king so glad I was in highschool when these films were released. So happy I was alive during this n actually got to see all three films in the cinemas. Last great film event.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting and you sound like a plain talk guy who knows what they are talking about without talking down to folks - humble, curious and learned. I used to have the '77 Hobbit soundtrack on LP and my brothers and I played the heck out of it back in the day. I've been looking up a lot of what you mention here. Thanks again bud!
The most entertaining hour and 12 mins I’ve spent in ages, well done, excellent stuff! A shout out also to all the bands, mostly metal, that paid homage to Tolkien’s work in their music. Zeppelin, Blknd Guardian, Minas Morgul, Burzum, Cirith Ungol to name but a few.
@@twintalk2943 well you never did talk about the first age did you? I mean I would love a more in depth breakdown from you. You’re knowledge of middle earth has to be spread
Much obliged! Tolkien has given me a lot of joy over the years and it's always a pleasure to sing the praises of the successful adaptations of his work.
Any dragon who goes by the name Vermithrax Pejorative is going to be an automatic fan favorite. My dad took me to see it in the theater as a kid and I was equal parts enthralled and horrified.
Not sure if you're into board/card games, but Fantasy Flights The LotR living card game is another great adaptation. Great art and takes you all over middle earth and Tolkeins lore. Magic the Gathering also released a LotR set but I hated the let's say "modernization" of it. They did however release a special edition of that set with art from the Hildebrants and scenes from the Bakshi film which I will admit are pretty awesome.
I've played tabletop rpgs off and on my entire life but I've never taken a crack at the card games. That said, if I found a set with nothing but Hildebrandt art, I'd buy it just in case I ever find a group that wants to play.
Very cool! Does it still have an active community? I played WOW from 2007-2014 and that was the last time I let myself get totally sucked into an MMORPG.
Seconding the LOTRO recommendation. It's F2P, and even if one doesn't stick with it for the long haul, the starter areas are wonderful to just chill in and soak up Middle Earth ambiance.
I completely agree with your assessment of John Huston. His voice is magnificent as Gandalf. This is one of those few times I would approve of using AI to bring us an audio book of the Hobbit, LotR, or the Silmarillion with Huston. His grandson’s voice is very similar. AI could scan Huston’s actual speech patterns in an overlay of his grandson. It would be awesome.
I read somewhere that it was during the making of the two towers was when the studio started to demand more modern jokes and cheesy stuff. For example Legolas shield surfing. And there's more in the 3rd film.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock it's also all over SoundCloud. Been listening to it since the early 90s when my dad got it on tape. Great to have on when making Lego
In my humble opinion, Ted Nasmith should be talked about in the same breath as Alan Lee and John Howe. Peter Jackson tried to get him for the films. A LOT of Peter Jacksons films are directly lifted from Ted Nasmith art.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock thats a great one! I like his post-lotr ones too, like of Legolas and Gimli in the glittering caves, or on the boat reaching the shores of Valinor. they are like fantastic pay offs that we get to indulge while knowing the story of how they got there. Have you seen Petar Mesaldzija "Gandalf"? He only did a few lotr paintings but its incredible, its like he imagines it in a religious antiquity style, romantic or renaissance painting, worth checking out if you haven't seen it. Its refreshing seeing Tolkien art in a different style
As much as I ADORE the Peter Jackson movies, I am saddened by what they've done to illustrating the world of Tolkien. Before those movies, you had illustrators like Alan Lee and the Brothers Hildebrandt bring their own imagined versions of Middle-Earth to life. Now, it seems like any illustration of that world is basically illustrating the movies. There are plenty of gorgeous illustrations of those films, and I love them, I just wish there was still room for weird or idiosyncratic takes on how Middle-Earth looks. PLUS, a weird take in an illustration or painting is a much cheaper and easier-to-digest way to re-imagine Tolkien than a billion dollar streaming show. You can appreciate it for the artist's vision, even if it's not how you might have imagined it.
I'm all for a new generation of artists injecting some fresh takes on these characters. I think one of the many problems with the Rings of Power is how they are they are locked into trying to recreate the most superficial ingredients of the Jackson aesthetic.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock It's a good question I have to think about more. All I can say for now is that, as far as I can remember, the first one suffers from repetitive scenarios, pacing issues and wasn't convincing on a technical level. The battle in part 2 took way too long and didn't feel dramatic and I was bored out of my mind. Parts 1 und 2 also suffered from countless cliches. The Return of the King on the other hand, besides obviously the best one on a technical level, fleshes out the characters, offers multiple layers and presents condensed archetypes in the manner of the hero's journey. Everything clicks here. What works especially well in regards of dramatic tension is the cross cutting between the battle and the journey of Frodo and Sam. The film is very ambitious and coherent at the same time, never losing focus. It's also the only film of the trilogy that can be watched as a standalone work of art.
I'm going have to try again because I'm yet to make it through PJs lotr without falling asleep, I went to the cinema with a hot girl for the premier & snored for the second half of the movie, she didn't call again 😂🤣😂
My first screening of Fellowship was a midnight screening on opening night so by around 3 am there were definitely some snores in my theater as well. I basically stayed up all night like a big geeky fanboy in spite of needing to be at work at 8 AM.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock awesome, my Mrs at the time was also hyper stoked about it all, I'd not read the books & had a couple of beers prior to the viewing... It's a shame she was a catch💚🇬🇧🌱
The most annoying thing about Rings of Power is (and let me see if I understand correctly the logic behind all this business deal) you buy the LOTR tv rights, but instead of making a several season adaptation of the book with the possibility of adding all the stuff that was cut from the PJ movies, you go to the apendices and decide to make a several season prequel; a cheap, boring, soulless fan fiction version of some vague references about events described in another book of which you don't have the rights to, with the excuse that this show is just an interpretation and filling in the blanks of the narrative, really, but with improvements for modern audiences; all the while claiming to be respectful of the source material when deliberately depriving it of all its meaning, themes, tone and emotion due to sheer lack of talent. In short, let's buy the brand LOTR to exploit the franchise, Marvel multiverse style. And make lots of money.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Also, you forgot the actual best Tolkien inspired game: Lord of the Rings Online - older title - and an MMO - but Middle-earth is a character all its own in that game. I think you'd love it.
That Hildebrant art. Ugh. I think I thought it was *neat* when I was a kid (maybe 10 years old) but as soon as even slightly better artists came along it became hard to look at because it was so bloody kitchy. Much like Bakshi’s film. It meandered somewhere between *neat* and painfully cheap and crap (butterfly cosplay Balrog anyone) and mostly unwatchable if you engage any critical faculties. Neither of these representations of Tolkien have earned *nostalgia* points from me because, despite its flaws, Jacksons adaptation is the gold standard. Ironically the Rankin Bass Hobbit is far less shit than Jackson’s monstrosity.
While I enjoy the films as cinema, and they are certainly deserving of merit in that regard, Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy is one of the WORST LITERARY ADAPTATIONS IN CINEMA. And a lot of the horrible choices made in regards to adaptation often lower the quality of the story as cinema: The dispensing of Tolkien’s morality. The uncanonical failures of nerve. The disregard for proper tone. The elasticity of pacing. The flattening of narrative. The interminable battle scenes. The complete destruction of characterization. The degradation of Tolkien’s prose, reducing beautiful sentiment to corny greeting card mush. The relentless trivialization of the story. And perhaps most egregiously, the facile appreciation of the book thinly veiling a profound and contemptible lack of comprehension of its themes. This is in addition to the enthusiastic copying of an alarming amount of shots, scenes, and entire sequences from Ralph Bakshi’s animated adaptation from 1978. While it may be true that Jackson’s interpretation of The Lord of the Rings is far greater qualitatively that his interpretation of The Hobbit, well... that isn’t really saying much.
Funny how I would absolutely cut 90% of all Smeagol / Gollum scenes from those movies. They vfx look horrible, over-acted and sound ridiculous and I always skip them. Am I the only one?
For me Bacshi film was as huge as Star Wars had been the year before.
This film led me to reading the books at 12😊
Hell yeah. I've always loved his work. Wizards, American Pop, Coonskin and LOTR are all animated classics for me.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock I really loved that film on video when I was 8. This is what got me into Tolkien. Recently bought two copies on DVD from poundland.
The scene in isegard with the mines and forges gives me the same feeling of henry in goodfellas entering the club Karen. Crazy camera work.
I love those scenes. Some of the best work of Jackson's career. He was really firing on all cylinders.
"I would have followed you my brother, my captain, my king." Chokes me up every time and I'm grateful for it.
I agree, that's the most heart-wrenching scene, for me. Amazing acting.
Brilliant scene. Bean and Mortensen crushed it.
Boromir!! 😫
Wow, that was a quick hour and 12 minites. Loved your take on the Tolkien adaptations and am in complete agreement.
I saw the Bakshi LOTR when it came out in the theater. I went with a buddy. We had to beg and plead with my dad to drive us to a theater 45 minutes away so we could see it. The rotoscoped scenes absolutely blew me away and to this day I love them. It's a damn shame they werent able to finish the tale.
It kills me that Bakshi only got to do his first movie. I've never understood why. In spite of some critical backlash, the first movie made money. Or perhaps he was ready to move on to some passion projects like American Pop. Thanks for checking out my video!
Over an hour talking about my favorite fiction writer and my favorite trilogy? Count me in!
High five to a fellow enthusiast! This video was long overdue.
'Porn parody' lmao.. that was gold!
Couldn't resist.
I was the first one in the theatre in 1978 to see Bakshi's LOTR. It was so amazing to finally see what I had been reading about, and had only seen illustrated in The Brother's Hildebrandt Tolkien Calendars. Then right next door to the Theater in "Blue Star Mall" in Watchung New Jersey was Toys R Us, where I purchased the Ringwraith figure. I was an amazing time because everything was new then and the world wasn't flooded with crap.
I'm jealous that you caught it in the theater. I discovered it many years later.
A couple of scenes that still wrench on my heart every time in Jackson's trilogy are when Aragorn tells the boy at Helm's Deep 'there is always hope' with a reassuring hand on his shoulder, and Eowyn and Merry taking down the Witch King. 'I am no man' was so poetic because Eowyn was told to go home and Merry was laughed at by Eomer and fellow soldiers and yet they are the ones who kill the big bad in the battle. That trilogy has so many emotional gut punches that still hit today.
100%. Massive fan of all the scenes you just mentioned. It really is one of the most emotionally stirring epics ever put on the big screen.
In the books Helm's Deep is filled with warriors as the women, children and aged were sent to safety in Dunharrow. I can't get over what I find to be a stupid change.
I'm going to have to look up the breakdancing at the Olympics now! 💚🇬🇧🌱
I've seen better breakdancing demonstrated by my drunk relatives at weddings. Enjoy!
@@geekinwithJamesHancock faf😂🤣😂
Check out the BBC radio play. Ian Holm voices Frodo and Bill Nighy Samwise. 13 hours, better than an audiobook imho
Where can you find this?
Will do! Sound right up my alley. Ian Holm is one of my all-time favorite actors. Sounds like that radio play absolutely deserves to be on this list.
Yes I have this in the original 26, 30 minute episodes, I remember listening to it when it was first aired and it blew me away. Ian Holm as Frodo, Robert Stephens as Aragorn, Michael Hordern as Gandalf, Peter Woodthorpe as Gollum, John Le Mesurier as Bilbo, the great David Collings ad Legolas and Michael Graham Cox back as Boromir. Absolutely must check it out
@@chucksire7116 I believe if you search Lord of The Rings Radio 4 Play in Google it will come back with a soundcloud option where they have all episodes uploaded for free
I was just gonna mention that! My personal favourite adaptation of the LOTR trilogy. Look it up on Audible, it's a real treasure 🧙🏻♂️
One of the craziest things about the Shadow games is that it’s essentially a reskin of a Batman game that Monolith was working on. The nemesis system, the stealth/combat loop, and the open world setting were all designed around Bats, so when they had to switch properties, they essentially made Talion into a Tolkien Bruce Wayne. God knows it worked, but still blows my mind that it did.
I was totally bewildered by the Nemesis system initially but rapidly became a massive fan. I must have invested a few hundred hours into these two games at this point.
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I completely agree with pretty much everything you say here. All the feelings, all the emotions you expressed about looking at all these great artworks watching these incredible movies. My teenage years in the 90s were spent reading the books and gazing into the art of Alan lee, John Howe etc. Just when I finished all of the books the Jackson movies came out. I feel the timing couldn't have been better. I feel Tolkien has and will always be important in my life!
I'm right there with you. I go through periods where I take a break from his work, but each time I revisit his books I fall in love with Tolkien all over again.
So glad I saw fellowship 5 times in the cinema, two times for the two towers and three times for the return of the king so glad I was in highschool when these films were released. So happy I was alive during this n actually got to see all three films in the cinemas. Last great film event.
Lord of the Rings is easily the best trilogy of all time and perhaps the greatest cinematic achievement.
It's tough for me to think of a better trilogy in any genre. I've definitely watched it more than any other trilogy I can think of.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting and you sound like a plain talk guy who knows what they are talking about without talking down to folks - humble, curious and learned. I used to have the '77 Hobbit soundtrack on LP and my brothers and I played the heck out of it back in the day. I've been looking up a lot of what you mention here. Thanks again bud!
The most entertaining hour and 12 mins I’ve spent in ages, well done, excellent stuff! A shout out also to all the bands, mostly metal, that paid homage to Tolkien’s work in their music. Zeppelin, Blknd Guardian, Minas Morgul, Burzum, Cirith Ungol to name but a few.
I used to watch the 1978 LOTR cartoon over and over back in the day though the voices in my head have been overwritten by Peter Jackson's mostly.
We've been incredibly fortunate to have so many brilliant actors tackle these characters over the decades.
I don't watch Geekin' JH that often but when he goes on a JRRT rant. 👊
Much obliged! More rants to come when Season 2 of The Rings of Power premieres next week.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock I'm looking forward to your reactions, the show?, not so much.
Stop talking as if i wouldn’t sit here and listen to a 6 hour+ lord of the rings discussion lol
Ty sir! I just might have to try and meet you halfway on that.
I would you should set up a commentary for all of them, I mean I’d pay
Completely agree
@@twintalk2943 well you never did talk about the first age did you? I mean I would love a more in depth breakdown from you. You’re knowledge of middle earth has to be spread
Great content. I really enjoy your enthusiasm for everything, Lord of the Rings . 👍
Much obliged! Tolkien has given me a lot of joy over the years and it's always a pleasure to sing the praises of the successful adaptations of his work.
Awesome video, thank you ✌🏻
The thanks goes to you for checking it out! Glad you enjoyed it.
Haha great video...I knew you were for real when you suggested the best dragon ever was the dragon from Dragonslayer, couldn't agree more!
Any dragon who goes by the name Vermithrax Pejorative is going to be an automatic fan favorite. My dad took me to see it in the theater as a kid and I was equal parts enthralled and horrified.
History shows that where there's a whip, there's a way.
We definitely need a music video of Moose performing that tune.
Not sure if you're into board/card games, but Fantasy Flights The LotR living card game is another great adaptation. Great art and takes you all over middle earth and Tolkeins lore. Magic the Gathering also released a LotR set but I hated the let's say "modernization" of it. They did however release a special edition of that set with art from the Hildebrants and scenes from the Bakshi film which I will admit are pretty awesome.
I've played tabletop rpgs off and on my entire life but I've never taken a crack at the card games. That said, if I found a set with nothing but Hildebrandt art, I'd buy it just in case I ever find a group that wants to play.
Frodo of the nine fingers and the ring of doom!
I used to hum that tune to myself constantly back in the high school. I have a real soft spot for the 1980 Return of the King.
Would highly recommend LOTRO! One of my favorite MMO RPG's of all time.
Very cool! Does it still have an active community? I played WOW from 2007-2014 and that was the last time I let myself get totally sucked into an MMORPG.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Small but very passionate fanbase!
Seconding the LOTRO recommendation. It's F2P, and even if one doesn't stick with it for the long haul, the starter areas are wonderful to just chill in and soak up Middle Earth ambiance.
I completely agree with your assessment of John Huston. His voice is magnificent as Gandalf. This is one of those few times I would approve of using AI to bring us an audio book of the Hobbit, LotR, or the Silmarillion with Huston. His grandson’s voice is very similar. AI could scan Huston’s actual speech patterns in an overlay of his grandson. It would be awesome.
38:26 We got one movie per volume. Next time I want one movie per book i.e. 6 _LotR_ and 1 _Hobbit._
I read somewhere that it was during the making of the two towers was when the studio started to demand more modern jokes and cheesy stuff. For example Legolas shield surfing. And there's more in the 3rd film.
I laugh at some of those bits but they got really carried away with those ingredients in the extended version of The Return of the King.
Brian Sibley's BBC radio production is the best LotR adaptation
I found a copy on the internet archive and have it all queued up. I've heard nothing but rave reviews.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock it's also all over SoundCloud. Been listening to it since the early 90s when my dad got it on tape. Great to have on when making Lego
nice, i have the same tshirt but mine is worn out....CROM!!!
I was wearing it in an elevator a week or so ago. A dude stepped in and his eyes went wide as he proclaimed, "Thulsa Doom!"
In my humble opinion, Ted Nasmith should be talked about in the same breath as Alan Lee and John Howe. Peter Jackson tried to get him for the films. A LOT of Peter Jacksons films are directly lifted from Ted Nasmith art.
His painting for The Last Words of Boromir is one of my favorites.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock thats a great one! I like his post-lotr ones too, like of Legolas and Gimli in the glittering caves, or on the boat reaching the shores of Valinor. they are like fantastic pay offs that we get to indulge while knowing the story of how they got there.
Have you seen Petar Mesaldzija "Gandalf"? He only did a few lotr paintings but its incredible, its like he imagines it in a religious antiquity style, romantic or renaissance painting, worth checking out if you haven't seen it. Its refreshing seeing Tolkien art in a different style
"The Hobbit" was written as children's literature. If a filmmaker (or illustrator) darkens it too much, it will run counter to the story itself.
James look up the return of the king video game, one of the better action titles I've played.
Watching the trailer now. Thanks for the heads up! Just finished another marathon session of Shadow of Mordor.
War of Rohirrim trailer reaction coming? 🙏
As much as I ADORE the Peter Jackson movies, I am saddened by what they've done to illustrating the world of Tolkien. Before those movies, you had illustrators like Alan Lee and the Brothers Hildebrandt bring their own imagined versions of Middle-Earth to life. Now, it seems like any illustration of that world is basically illustrating the movies. There are plenty of gorgeous illustrations of those films, and I love them, I just wish there was still room for weird or idiosyncratic takes on how Middle-Earth looks. PLUS, a weird take in an illustration or painting is a much cheaper and easier-to-digest way to re-imagine Tolkien than a billion dollar streaming show. You can appreciate it for the artist's vision, even if it's not how you might have imagined it.
I'm all for a new generation of artists injecting some fresh takes on these characters. I think one of the many problems with the Rings of Power is how they are they are locked into trying to recreate the most superficial ingredients of the Jackson aesthetic.
OP have you played LOTRO at all? You might dig it.
For some reason, I disliked the first two movies but absolutely loved The Return of the King and I'm usually not even interested in fantasy.
Interesting. What do you think was different about Return to the King that had an impact on you?
@@geekinwithJamesHancock It's a good question I have to think about more. All I can say for now is that, as far as I can remember, the first one suffers from repetitive scenarios, pacing issues and wasn't convincing on a technical level. The battle in part 2 took way too long and didn't feel dramatic and I was bored out of my mind. Parts 1 und 2 also suffered from countless cliches. The Return of the King on the other hand, besides obviously the best one on a technical level, fleshes out the characters, offers multiple layers and presents condensed archetypes in the manner of the hero's journey. Everything clicks here. What works especially well in regards of dramatic tension is the cross cutting between the battle and the journey of Frodo and Sam. The film is very ambitious and coherent at the same time, never losing focus. It's also the only film of the trilogy that can be watched as a standalone work of art.
What is PJ up to?
Last I heard he was working on a Gollum spin-off movie but I wish he stick with passion projects like 'Get Back'.
I'm going have to try again because I'm yet to make it through PJs lotr without falling asleep, I went to the cinema with a hot girl for the premier & snored for the second half of the movie, she didn't call again 😂🤣😂
My first screening of Fellowship was a midnight screening on opening night so by around 3 am there were definitely some snores in my theater as well. I basically stayed up all night like a big geeky fanboy in spite of needing to be at work at 8 AM.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock awesome, my Mrs at the time was also hyper stoked about it all, I'd not read the books & had a couple of beers prior to the viewing... It's a shame she was a catch💚🇬🇧🌱
The most annoying thing about Rings of Power is (and let me see if I understand correctly the logic behind all this business deal) you buy the LOTR tv rights, but instead of making a several season adaptation of the book with the possibility of adding all the stuff that was cut from the PJ movies, you go to the apendices and decide to make a several season prequel; a cheap, boring, soulless fan fiction version of some vague references about events described in another book of which you don't have the rights to, with the excuse that this show is just an interpretation and filling in the blanks of the narrative, really, but with improvements for modern audiences; all the while claiming to be respectful of the source material when deliberately depriving it of all its meaning, themes, tone and emotion due to sheer lack of talent. In short, let's buy the brand LOTR to exploit the franchise, Marvel multiverse style. And make lots of money.
Slow down man, breathe! I'm out of breath on your behalf just listening to you. Otherwise, great job. You are quite knowledgeable.
Lol, I have a small problem with consuming too much caffeine but thanks for being patient with me!
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Also, you forgot the actual best Tolkien inspired game: Lord of the Rings Online - older title - and an MMO - but Middle-earth is a character all its own in that game. I think you'd love it.
The hobbit movies ruined Peter Jackson's reputation as a great director and that's the sad.
That Hildebrant art. Ugh. I think I thought it was *neat* when I was a kid (maybe 10 years old) but as soon as even slightly better artists came along it became hard to look at because it was so bloody kitchy.
Much like Bakshi’s film. It meandered somewhere between *neat* and painfully cheap and crap (butterfly cosplay Balrog anyone) and mostly unwatchable if you engage any critical faculties. Neither of these representations of Tolkien have earned *nostalgia* points from me because, despite its flaws, Jacksons adaptation is the gold standard.
Ironically the Rankin Bass Hobbit is far less shit than Jackson’s monstrosity.
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While I enjoy the films as cinema, and they are certainly deserving of merit in that regard, Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy is one of the WORST LITERARY ADAPTATIONS IN CINEMA. And a lot of the horrible choices made in regards to adaptation often lower the quality of the story as cinema: The dispensing of Tolkien’s morality. The uncanonical failures of nerve. The disregard for proper tone. The elasticity of pacing. The flattening of narrative. The interminable battle scenes. The complete destruction of characterization. The degradation of Tolkien’s prose, reducing beautiful sentiment to corny greeting card mush. The relentless trivialization of the story. And perhaps most egregiously, the facile appreciation of the book thinly veiling a profound and contemptible lack of comprehension of its themes. This is in addition to the enthusiastic copying of an alarming amount of shots, scenes, and entire sequences from Ralph Bakshi’s animated adaptation from 1978. While it may be true that Jackson’s interpretation of The Lord of the Rings is far greater qualitatively that his interpretation of The Hobbit, well... that isn’t really saying much.
Funny how I would absolutely cut 90% of all Smeagol / Gollum scenes from those movies. They vfx look horrible, over-acted and sound ridiculous and I always skip them. Am I the only one?