I have used the Porsche branded version of these at the Porsche Experience Center Atlanta and at my local Porsche dealership in San Luis Obispo California. They are beautiful to look at and very quiet. And with a preconditioned car deliver as promised. I saw 260kW and had one charge 19-43% in 6min, 195kW avg. funny that the Taycan in the splash screen vehicle, you can tell who funded a lot of this charger. 😂
I've been using these chargers at a couple of local gas stations near me for about 6 months now. Compared to EA, Chargepoint and most definitely Francis, these are the most reliable chargers available to me hands down.
@RichardJoashTan Kempower will definitely be a contender in the reliability and extreme weather performance, but they have so few sites in North America right now that we don't have a track record for comparison.
$0.40 per kWh is a great price, not only in the NE, but pretty much anywhere. Really sweet setup too with the trash & wiper combo, plus bench to chill on. Someone took care in the planning of it. Nice spot too, next to a convenience store. Never heard of Schnell b4 this. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
@@plugandplayEV Not your fault. I knew it was a company I had not heard of while listening and lazily scanned the title to grab, but see now what I was looking for is ADS Energy. Cool solution they have for metro locations like convenience stores. As you say, an alternative to FreeWire.
Rapido! This charging setup seems really slick with very nice dispensers and a responsive screen. All the amenities are there. The nice thing with this equipment configuration is that both dispensers pull from the same battery. I’ve seen problem checkins with Freewire of users complaining of slow charging unaware that three other Freewire units have full power available (see Napavine, WA Arco station).
@@anthonyc8499 It looks like it should be fine for NEVI funding. They are just looking at 150+ kW dedicated per cable. The NEVI site would need to be larger, though, so at least four of these stalls.
@@newscoulomb3705 gotcha, thanks! I’d love to see these in pairs or triplets with slow to moderate travel volumes with the packs tied together to share energy. Freewire says that in some of their multi unit locations certain charger packs get depleted faster than others based on customer parking preferences.
Cheers, Eric. There's seem to be stations using this system (at least the dispensers) over in Oklahoma, based on other comments, and I know that Porsche dealers have a bunch of them installed. The latter are invariably private use, though (don't want a nearby Hyundai sullying the style of your German track machines :-) But it's good to have a local install to check out and see how it holds up over a New England winter.
@@plugandplayEV Interesting. I was only searching for EV Connect stations, so it's possible that the hardware was installed non-networked or under a different network. I'll have to do a bit more searching.
Hey Steve - would love to see some of these stations in our neck of the woods! Look really nice and the battery integration is a great idea... Sunny and 86 degrees here in Desert Palm today! Thanks for the video! Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Happy for you both... I'm sure it's nice to have your feet up in the sunshine, watching a cold and rainy charge session from the Northeast! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I hope so, they have definitely taken up the gauntlet in Massachusetts. The mix of equipment is pretty broad, though. The first Shell Recharge was installed at a Nouria five years ago (Veefil 50kW units at Logan, still there and still free!), then a bunch of neighboring towns like Worcester installed single or dual units ranging from 50-100kW. Now this much more future-proofed option at 320kW. I applaud the brand's progression, even if their execution is a little haphazard!
There is one of these in Edmond, OK. We’ve had it a couple years. I need to go try it out since it’s gotten great reviews. I saw one user was actually able to manually reset the whole site themselves with the disconnects, (which were user-accessible though surely not on purpose), when the dispensers errored out in a charge session. Probably not intentional on the operator’s side but if it works it works 😂
The EV equivalent of "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing", I suppose? I wonder if that's up on a wall at Electrify America, somewhere? :-)
No, I think the Volta stations are all in-house designs. Or at least the hardware isn't widespread across the country. at non-Volta locations. It also only pushes 50kW on the Volta DCFC that I've seen, so this would be the opposite end of the spectrum there.
I wish they would put the rated current _output_ in the spec sheet. As we all know, a rated power output is a completely useless spec for the vast majority of EVs. A charger that could put out 320kW on something like a Lucid at 900V might only put out 130kw on something like a Mach E or ID.4 (or Tesla) due to the voltage difference. There is an install at a dealership near me with Tellus (Blink) chargers that claim 120kw output but are limited to 150A, so they only charge 400V EVs at 50ish kW. Even with the Ioniq5 it’s less than 120kw for most of the curve due to the ridiculous current limit.
Right, and this being hardware very well suited to 800V charging like the Taycan, it wouldn't be unusual for the system to be limited on 400V EVs. But we can see from this session that the hardware here pushed up to 300A, so it should give a 400V vehicle a solid power output as well.
This is a strange comment considering a number of the station check ins on PlugShare are by Tesla owners. That's the beauty of reviewing public chargers: everyone can use them.
Thanks but I'll pass...Tesla's are fine but are the ultimate in styling blah...love my Ioniq5 Ultimate. And no I have no charging issues and we road trip a lot. Each to their own! 😂 Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
I have used the Porsche branded version of these at the Porsche Experience Center Atlanta and at my local Porsche dealership in San Luis Obispo California. They are beautiful to look at and very quiet. And with a preconditioned car deliver as promised. I saw 260kW and had one charge 19-43% in 6min, 195kW avg.
funny that the Taycan in the splash screen vehicle, you can tell who funded a lot of this charger. 😂
Subtle hints, yes! They definitely felt premium... and any dispenser that reliably doles out 200+ kW is a good one, in my book.
I've been using these chargers at a couple of local gas stations near me for about 6 months now. Compared to EA, Chargepoint and most definitely Francis, these are the most reliable chargers available to me hands down.
What about Kempower?
None near me yet unfortunately.@@RichardJoashTan
Great to hear, thanks for the validation. These are new as of last month, so I hope they hold up as well as the ones you've seen.
@RichardJoashTan Kempower will definitely be a contender in the reliability and extreme weather performance, but they have so few sites in North America right now that we don't have a track record for comparison.
Correction at 07:12, session was 26% to 67% state of charge. Is the ChargeBox system something you'd like to see on your travels?
$0.40 per kWh is a great price, not only in the NE, but pretty much anywhere. Really sweet setup too with the trash & wiper combo, plus bench to chill on. Someone took care in the planning of it. Nice spot too, next to a convenience store. Never heard of Schnell b4 this. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Sorry Walter, my bad, "Schnell" is just the German word for fast :-)
@@plugandplayEV Not your fault. I knew it was a company I had not heard of while listening and lazily scanned the title to grab, but see now what I was looking for is ADS Energy. Cool solution they have for metro locations like convenience stores. As you say, an alternative to FreeWire.
Rapido! This charging setup seems really slick with very nice dispensers and a responsive screen. All the amenities are there. The nice thing with this equipment configuration is that both dispensers pull from the same battery. I’ve seen problem checkins with Freewire of users complaining of slow charging unaware that three other Freewire units have full power available (see Napavine, WA Arco station).
Excellent chargers. And worked without issues. EA should be ashamed.
I'm definitely a fan. Thanks for the thoughts.
Nice to see other chargers/dispensers coming online for the CCS vehicles. Good video Steve. I'm jealous of those Ionic 5 charging curves! ⚡⚡
Thanks, Brad. The charge curve definitely works well for us when the journeys click past 300-400 miles!
Thanks, Steve. Very nifty station. I think this might be the first installation of this hardware in the United States.
This equipment is really cool. I don’t know if it’s NEVI compliant but probably would do just fine for some state grants?
@@anthonyc8499 It looks like it should be fine for NEVI funding. They are just looking at 150+ kW dedicated per cable. The NEVI site would need to be larger, though, so at least four of these stalls.
@@newscoulomb3705 gotcha, thanks! I’d love to see these in pairs or triplets with slow to moderate travel volumes with the packs tied together to share energy. Freewire says that in some of their multi unit locations certain charger packs get depleted faster than others based on customer parking preferences.
Cheers, Eric. There's seem to be stations using this system (at least the dispensers) over in Oklahoma, based on other comments, and I know that Porsche dealers have a bunch of them installed. The latter are invariably private use, though (don't want a nearby Hyundai sullying the style of your German track machines :-) But it's good to have a local install to check out and see how it holds up over a New England winter.
@@plugandplayEV Interesting. I was only searching for EV Connect stations, so it's possible that the hardware was installed non-networked or under a different network. I'll have to do a bit more searching.
Hey Steve - would love to see some of these stations in our neck of the woods! Look really nice and the battery integration is a great idea...
Sunny and 86 degrees here in Desert Palm today!
Thanks for the video!
Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Happy for you both... I'm sure it's nice to have your feet up in the sunshine, watching a cold and rainy charge session from the Northeast! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Good stuff! Interesting .... there's a bunch of nouria locations in CT ..... wonder when they'll get fast chargers .....🤔😎
I hope so, they have definitely taken up the gauntlet in Massachusetts. The mix of equipment is pretty broad, though.
The first Shell Recharge was installed at a Nouria five years ago (Veefil 50kW units at Logan, still there and still free!), then a bunch of neighboring towns like Worcester installed single or dual units ranging from 50-100kW. Now this much more future-proofed option at 320kW. I applaud the brand's progression, even if their execution is a little haphazard!
There is one of these in Edmond, OK. We’ve had it a couple years. I need to go try it out since it’s gotten great reviews.
I saw one user was actually able to manually reset the whole site themselves with the disconnects, (which were user-accessible though surely not on purpose), when the dispensers errored out in a charge session. Probably not intentional on the operator’s side but if it works it works 😂
The EV equivalent of "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing", I suppose? I wonder if that's up on a wall at Electrify America, somewhere? :-)
Good review
Thanks!
I'd like to see some of these battery boosted stations. I haven't found any here in SoCal yet, unless the Volta DCFC that's almost always down is one.
No, I think the Volta stations are all in-house designs. Or at least the hardware isn't widespread across the country. at non-Volta locations. It also only pushes 50kW on the Volta DCFC that I've seen, so this would be the opposite end of the spectrum there.
I wish they would put the rated current _output_ in the spec sheet. As we all know, a rated power output is a completely useless spec for the vast majority of EVs. A charger that could put out 320kW on something like a Lucid at 900V might only put out 130kw on something like a Mach E or ID.4 (or Tesla) due to the voltage difference. There is an install at a dealership near me with Tellus (Blink) chargers that claim 120kw output but are limited to 150A, so they only charge 400V EVs at 50ish kW. Even with the Ioniq5 it’s less than 120kw for most of the curve due to the ridiculous current limit.
Right, and this being hardware very well suited to 800V charging like the Taycan, it wouldn't be unusual for the system to be limited on 400V EVs. But we can see from this session that the hardware here pushed up to 300A, so it should give a 400V vehicle a solid power output as well.
Just buy a Tesla!
Nah.
Not everyone like or want Tesla having options is always good
This is a strange comment considering a number of the station check ins on PlugShare are by Tesla owners. That's the beauty of reviewing public chargers: everyone can use them.
Thanks but I'll pass...Tesla's are fine but are the ultimate in styling blah...love my Ioniq5 Ultimate. And no I have no charging issues and we road trip a lot.
Each to their own! 😂
Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Teslas use non-Tesla charging options too.