Very interesting method. I've been using a wet tumbler with hot water and detergent lately and I'm getting a very nice looking dark and shiny patina on the brass.
Step one - take a reasonable sized container with you to the range half filled with water with dish washing added. Drop your cases in after shooting, it'll halve your home washing time.
THANK YOU. Now that you have shared a good brass cleaning method... I 'might' decide to load 30-30 Winchester or 30 WCF with 'about' 30 grains FFFg Goex or Midway powder or about 30 to 32 grains of triple se7en FFF... Charges will be measured by weight and "confirmed by volume" to be volume correct for modern brass cases to be used. I know that dead air space above "black powder" and under bullet in the cartridge is a NO-GO/'will blow' deal... Bullets will be 150 or 170 grain cast sized to .310" or .311" I believe the original black powder load was 160 grain cast lead round or flat nose bullets...and a volume of about 30 grains of FFFg.
Fascinating and well done. You made me curious as to how I could do this. I was leary about using anything other than hot, soapy water on BPCR brass. Seems that we in the USA can simply use Oxy Clean and water to get the same effect. Thanks Frankdn109 for the very useful link.
I use the Redding universal deprimer to remove the primers before I clean them using the method that you suggest. The primers are made from lead styphnate a toxic compound. be careful where you discard the liquid. Around food items is not a good idea.
I use it in first place to fade away blueing on some of my black powder replicas (i apply a few seconds with a brush), to give some patina. If you soak completly for a few minutes, the steel will come out bright-grey. So I use to soak my brass (45/70 in fact !) in white or red vinegar, they come almost perfectly bright, but I wonder if it isn't a bit agressive, and there is not such a strong bubble-action like you show here, so, I'll give your idea a try :) .
I have used ammonia on badly un cleaned and corroded black powder cartridges just put them in a glass jar and covered them with ammonia and let them soak overnight rinse them in hot soapy water let them dry and tumble them it gets a lot of crap off but they may show some staining
The ingredient he mentions in the detergent *natrium perborate* or *sodium perborate* (Natrium is just another word for Sodium) which breaks down into *hydrogen peroxide* and *borax* (from what I understand)
Thank you for another well conceived and executed video. Would it not be better to remove the spent primers before cleaning the cases in order to clean the flash hole area as well?
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Almost 61 years old and I learned something new. Thanks.
Very interesting method. I've been using a wet tumbler with hot water and detergent lately and I'm getting a very nice looking dark and shiny patina on the brass.
So the secret ingredient is hydrogen peroxide. I never would have thought of that. Beautifully simple and effective. Thank you!
Step one - take a reasonable sized container with you to the range half filled with water with dish washing added. Drop your cases in after shooting, it'll halve your home washing time.
exactly
THANK YOU. Now that you have shared a good brass cleaning method... I 'might' decide to load 30-30 Winchester or 30 WCF with 'about' 30 grains FFFg Goex or Midway powder or about 30 to 32 grains of triple se7en FFF... Charges will be measured by weight and "confirmed by volume" to be volume correct for modern brass cases to be used. I know that dead air space above "black powder" and under bullet in the cartridge is a NO-GO/'will blow' deal... Bullets will be 150 or 170 grain cast sized to .310" or .311" I believe the original black powder load was 160 grain cast lead round or flat nose bullets...and a volume of about 30 grains of FFFg.
You can also use dawn dish soap and lemishine
Fascinating and well done. You made me curious as to how I could do this. I was leary about using anything other than hot, soapy water on BPCR brass. Seems that we in the USA can simply use Oxy Clean and water to get the same effect. Thanks Frankdn109 for the very useful link.
I would like to add that ammonia is said to be bad for brass it supposedly makes it brittle so if you use it to make Shure you rinse them well
I use the Redding universal deprimer to remove the primers before I clean them using the method that you suggest. The primers are made from lead styphnate a toxic compound. be careful where you discard the liquid. Around food items is not a good idea.
I use it in first place to fade away blueing on some of my black powder replicas (i apply a few seconds with a brush), to give some patina. If you soak completly for a few minutes, the steel will come out bright-grey. So I use to soak my brass (45/70 in fact !) in white or red vinegar, they come almost perfectly bright, but I wonder if it isn't a bit agressive, and there is not such a strong bubble-action like you show here, so, I'll give your idea a try :) .
I have used ammonia on badly un cleaned and corroded black powder cartridges just put them in a glass jar and covered them with ammonia and let them soak overnight rinse them in hot soapy water let them dry and tumble them it gets a lot of crap off but they may show some staining
Would you recommend this cleaning method also for the cylinder of a revolver such as the Remington 1858 (Uberti's replica)?
The soaking, yes. The tumbling, no.
Try balistol. It is the best for cleaning black power firearms.
The ingredient he mentions in the detergent *natrium perborate* or *sodium perborate* (Natrium is just another word for Sodium) which breaks down into *hydrogen peroxide* and *borax* (from what I understand)
Thank you! Listened to it a couple times and couldn’t sort it out.
Do you ever use black powder substitute like pyrodex or just black powder like swiss or goex?
Thank you for another well conceived and executed video. Would it not be better to remove the spent primers before cleaning the cases in order to clean the flash hole area as well?
There's not a part 2, is there?
Very nice. Good info.
So any stain remover with work yes or no?
Great advice!
Wouldn't it be better to first remove the primer and then clean the cases?
very interesting, i never thought about these oxi-action things... Certainly less agressive with the brass itself than white vinegar, uh ?
Thank you.
Is Vanish OxiAction Crystal White available here in the States? I have looked for it with no luck.
Any oxi based laundry works.
what exactly ingredient? I couldn't understand that part.
oxyclean
thanks.
Vanish oxi action! Like they've done it in the old times.
Will this work with Pyrodex?
This peroxide Or oxi-clean detergent cleaning method should work with Black powder, Triple Se7en, and Pyrodex... All leave similar residues.
did you just pour lead residue on your kitchen dishes??
can ultrasonic cleaner do the job?
Chun-Yang Chao I also have an ultrasonic cleaner. Have you used it and how were the results?
Hello, I habent tried it, but I heard from gun store staff, she told me not to use it, only turbo sand cleaner works.
She must be clueless... people have been using ultrasonic cleaners to clean brass for 10+ years.
Okay... thanks. Google says natrium is Sodium Bicarbonate... but I couldn't find perborat.
Check householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem&id=33 for (U.S.) products that contain sodium perborate
Lava com suco de limão...
Borax
Sodium perborate