I don't know how the hell the algorithm has hid this from me for so long but I am glad I found this. I love all your series reactions, I didn't know you did games! Time to binge
I played this for the first time about a year ago too, and felt super nostalgic about them playing Pearl Jam's Future Days, that just came out around the end of 2013, because that was exactly what I was listening to that year, the year the apocalypse happens in-game 😂.
You can use your entire area to your advantage when fighting, you can’t find health because they’re in the form of parts you have to look around if you want to build your inventory 🔥
@@nickpalumbo8046 making us play as her was the best decision because you actually get to see what her life is like and how her and Ellie aren’t so different
@@thedarklightskin yeah bit they should of showed us how abby and ellie were similar before she kills joel not after. I just hated abby and everyone in her group from the start because of it. Also the ending was really dumb too.
@@nickpalumbo8046 why? The reason they showed us all this about her afterwords is so you can come to understand who she is the same way Ellie does at the ending and realize that they’re both the same. The ending is great, because we as the audience and Ellie as the main character realize that no one needs to die
@@thedarklightskin Sorry but I'm not somone who can just forgive a person for killing somone I like, even if it was justified. Also the end was so dumb because ellie went all that way to kill abby, lost 2 fingers fighting her and had abby dead to rights and at literally the last second ellie is like JK you can live. It's such bad writing.
This is one of my favorite story driven games, couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks and wanted to instantly replay it. Not something I often do for story heavy games.
I can’t get over how chat defaults to “if you don’t like the game’s story it’s because you just can’t get over Joel’s death” like no I have almost zero problem with how Joel died. My problem is that the story you get after that is so not worth it
Everyone can have different opinions , if I don’t like it it’s fine . The problem is people saying that the problem is being “ woke “ and “Abby sucks “ without even playing it
@@Evadann and imo story is very very bad. Loses the main thing holding the first story together and tries replacing it with several things, none of which as compelling
*SPOILER* Holy shhhhh I never caught that but when Dina says “we believe in you”, it could jokingly mean Shimmer and Dina but I think she “accidentally” slipped up because she’s pregnant😂finally caught this on my 5th run lmao
I swear I can’t stand the people that are just saying “he saved his daughter“ he knew what he was doing. You’re just trying to give the murderer some sympathy. Man killed a doctor, who was going to make a cure in an apocalypse.
about to do a second playthrough of this. I really enjoyed it but can understand why people hate it. If they rearranged some events I believe it would have been better.
I hate how's he's exploring and keeping an eye out for supplies but just miss most of them by looking away from the screen or moving to fast but you do you Roshi supplies are limited as it is in hard mode
If it's humid then it ain't cold. Y'all just don't know. There ain't a difference between -6 and -12. But there is a huge difference between -12 and -40. I lived and worked all across the country. Up north by the great lakes is the coldest I've ever seen. Georgia doesn't know.
You're missing so much stuff. lol There's a weird parallel between Maria and Sarah. In the game Maria and Sarah look actually kinda similar, which doesn't take much attention in of itself, but when suddenly show Sarah is mixed and show Maria is black I feel they were trying to draw some sort of parallel there, probably with Joel and Tommy and their little disposition on things and Joel's PTSD.
I grew up in Georgia. It's weather can be so erratic. It can be very cold there. Also there aren't that many palm trees lol, I was so confused by that.
It’s crazy that just because some people didn’t like the game they go out of their way to either spoil or ruin the experience for anyone else, I’ve never seen anything like it. I played the game, there’s a reason why it has the highest completion rate of any Sony title.
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I still have to say this about TLOU1 - there was never going to be a cure. The scientists were saying "surely THIS TIME it's gonna work," despite the fact that we learn throughout the game that there HAVE been others like Ellie, that they operated on to try to use their immunity as a cure. It NEVER works, and it ALWAYS kills the person. So Joel was right to save Ellie, even though his motivations were selfish. The scientists were just grasping at straws, and they were going to kill ANOTHER person in a failed attempt to make a cure, rather than trying to find a different way. I still say Joel was right.
This is a misconception. Ellie is the ONLY immune subject that they found. They have worked on other ways to get a vaccine and those never worked. They never had an actual immune subject before. All of the other cases were normal Infected. People jumbled up multiple recordings and misunderstood them. Ellie was always the only known immune person.
@@WAyuso34 We never learned this. People misunderstood what was said. The doctor was referring to past infected subjects that they worked on and compared and contrasted them with Ellie’s infection. He states there are some similarities in how it affected their body, but there are key differences, namely that the fungus can’t control her limbic system and increase her aggression levels. Despite some of the telltale genetic signs that she is infected, Ellie’s system shows up as relatively normal, and that is why it was so critical to study exactly how she became immune to reverse engineer a vaccine. People also confuse the fact that the Fireflies have always been working on a vaccine and have failed in those attempts. Not that they failed with other immune subjects.
@@Ren_Davis0531 There is literally documentation in the game that you can find that describes what I said. They did the same thing to others that they wanted to do to Ellie, and it failed every time. Stop lying.
Nawww tbh, Joel’s consequences happened to himself, mainly/at first. As much as i absolutely cried and loved him lmao, that was way different than what Negan did to Glenn. NOT TO MENTION it happened as a result of Daryl punching Negan, so tbf, Glenn’s was way worse. I equally say it sucks for the people that saw them too, because Ellie witnessed Joel and Maggie and friends witnessed Glenn
i dont know. I think I like it better if they fill in the gaps between the two games with the tv series. Show what life was like for Joel and Ally in between the time skip. thats just me
Especially Abby. You don't get much of her pre-hospital shootout. It would be easier for audiences to understand her relationship between her father and her.
It blows my mind that some people ask for more mature storytelling in Triple-AAA games and then when they're given it, they can't handle the give-and-take complicated themes a well-written story poses. It's not a matter of whether or not you like the turn of events--that's completely subjective and no one is allowed to tell you how to feel about it; though that's a completely different conversation from calling 'choices you weren't a fan of' "bad writing". Those two things have no correlation. The two games' stories connect masterfully, Part I setting up Part II and not allowing a sequel to walk back Part I's choices just because the outcome is grounded in the theme that choices have consequences--that's the kind of writing we should expect from our entertainment. If you write in the context of a brutal world such as TLOU, you have to stick to your guns when the tough choices arise. That's a lot of what makes this game series so special--knowing that every character has their own point-of-view that is relatable if you apply the context that a character can only act on the information it has, not what the audience knows. Whether or not you agree with them is personal, but one undeniable fact about the series as a whole is that it's consistent. I, personally, applaud that while so many games play it safe and jump through hoops to deliver non-offensive, homogenized, eye-rolling by-the-numbers stories, some series--such as TLOU--venture into often uncharted territory that is uncomfortable and sometimes sad, to reach deep and deliver an experience not-soon forgotten by those that can stomach the reality of such a world. No character in this world is "right" or "wrong", everyone is just doing the best they have with the information they have. Even if you're not a fan--and that's perfectly fine--you should at least be able to respect that the game tries to reach deeper than surface-level storytelling to draw you in, regardless of whether you feel it it succeeded or not in doing so.
@@riastradh You'd have to be more specific. I can't substantiate a counterpoint against such a generalized response like "bad writing" when TLOU2 as is consistent as its predecessor. If we're talking about objective metrics, you'd be hard-pressed to criticize one without the other. If it's a subjective issue, that's entirely up to the person viewing. "Bad writing" is a metric we can observe, contextualize and measure. It's not a purely subjective statement.
@@LockeNarshe Abby has no character. Her motivations are either unclear or lackluster, besides Lev her complains are uninteresting (if you even get to interact with them), her boss is a non character, she doesn’t even react to having to kill her own allies. It’s like her connection to the story is everyone else around her and everyone else around her is dull. I have less complaints about Ellie’s half but that’s more to it being less egregious than actually being better. Almost everyone in the game in one note and it’s awful
@@riastradh **BIG SPOILERS AHEAD** Okay, we're starting way further back than I thought we would need to. Abby has no character? In what regards? Again, that's not specific and not a legitimate criticism--it's a nothing burger of a statement. She's a traumatized teenager whose father was brutally murdered by a smuggler who changed his mind in the eleventh hour after being contracted for a job--to which the Fireflies believed was humanity's chance at a vaccine. That's all she knows about Joel and that's all her perspective allows her to see at the start of her journey. Her motivations are crystal clear for going after Joel just from that statement alone. If you mean post-killing him, then you need to state that. Context leads me to believe you meant "companions" rather than "complains". Concerning the Salt Lake crew--every one of them is layered outside of Whitney; the antithesis for what would be considered "one note". Owen is the moral center of the SLC & arguably the most optimistic & level-headed character in the series, whose main concern is helping Abby pick up the pieces of her shattered life while trying to keep hold of his own morality. His situation is incredibly complex while staying relatable. Owen & Manny were the ones to find Jerry's body and had to watch one of their closest friends break down in agony--not to mention the subsequent years of watching her compulsion eat her alive. By all accounts, they're both very loyal friends that aren't afraid to call Abby out--or each other--when needed. While he doesn't quite have Owen's level of morality when it comes to "the enemy", Manny's arguably the glue that holds the group together and a caretaker by nature when it comes to his friends. He looks after his father's worsening illness with compassion, he's the one trying to get Abby and Mel to get along (part of his 'family'), he's combat-efficient and looks out for those around him. He also stays loyal to Abby when she needs him the most and risks his own ass by going against Isaac and the WLF to assist/cover for Abby while she searched for Owen. I could expand this for every single character in the SLC. If you require more, I certainly will. Also, you missed a lot of context about Isaac, her boss. Most of his story exists prior to the events of Ellie arriving but has journal entries all throughout the game. Isaac is a very strong believer in an-eye-for-an-eye, which is not only told to us by Abby ("Who's more about justice than Isaac?"), but you can read all about it in written material you find along the way as he fought it out with FEDRA prior to the WLF's position of prominence in the region. The people who serve under his often share his ideals, which is why they follow him so loyally. A note from a building in Seattle: "Our strike against the FEDRA checkpoint worked. Killed at least three of those thugs, just a few wounded on our side. In the wake of our losses, it felt good to hit back. That night, we voted Isaac as the new commander. It was a contentious meeting - his summary execution of those prisoners still doesn't sit right with some people, but I like him. He can make the tough calls." This is one of many notes concerning who Isaac is and why people follow him--even the positive aspects of Isaac praising people under him for their hard work resisting FEDRA. Do you see all of the context you've completely skipped over to form your baseless opinion?
@@riastradh Abby's connection to the story is that she was affected by Joel's actions. She's the other side of the coin that isn't often explored when we believe the "hero" (which Joel wasn't) is "doing what is necessary". She and her friends are the collateral left in the wake of Joel's selfish decisions--decisions he knew were against what Ellie wanted. You can still like Joel, even empathize with his impossible choice, without giving him a free pass. Like everyone else in this story, actions have consequences. Abby and friends were that consequence. There are two responses to your inquiry, in case you only see this one.
Honestly i always thought abby was justified because Jole was selfish when he prevented them from making a cure and would do the same thing if it happened to Ellie so that's my opinion 2
But Abby didn't kill Joel for that reason. Nothing justifies killing someone else anyways unless it's for purely survival or out of self defense. If there weren't an apocalypse, Abby would be stealing Jell-O in prison for the rest of her natural life, lmao.
@@Lc-Anders OP implies she kills him due to his prevention of the world receiving a cure when it's actually because he [don't really wanna post a spoiler because there are some people who are new to this game's lore still.]. It was a revenge murder. Yeah, her friends came along for retribution to not getting a cure, but I was stating she did NOT trek across the U.S because of Joel's selfish decision of pulling Ellie off the table.
@@Lc-Anders He's right though, Abby killed Joel because she was mad he killed her father, even though she knew her father tried killing his daughter. That's literally it, the game makes it very clear. The game never once makes a note that she knows about Ellie being the cure and is why she had to die. Even then, you can't be mad at a father for killing the man that was going to kill his daughter. Abby was just poorly written.
@@Lc-Anders Also you'd do well to remember that there was no cure, the doctor FELT like it MIGHT be a cure. There was no guarantee. For all anyone knows, he could've killed Ellie for no reason. They even make it obvious that he's killed others in name of a "cure". So obviously Joel was right to kill him and protect his daughter. Abby is just an idiot.
You know.... I don't think there is a single comment for this game that gives it a middle ground. I am not a fan of the writing. Period. Some characters were okay, I guess. The pacing was strange at times. The graphics, gameplay, music, were very nice. Joel dying the way he did I personally would have wanted to be different, but I don't have a problem with him dying. I hate what they did with Jesse most of all. Lev's story was cool. The ending felt like the writers just gave up in the end. It didn't feel as open ended as the first game because -well we all can probably guess-. I'd give it a 5/10. Not quite sure what specifically gave it GOTY
Was waiting for Roshi to say “you and your friends, are dead” like he normally does
Dark Knight reference
1:08:28 The way sheera moves the goalpost for the cold conversation. LMAO
Shera is a bro at heart, gotta love the jokes
25:28 This is foreshadowing that this play through is going to be more hilarious than heartbreaking. I love Sheera ❤
39:55... Sheera must like to argue... LOL... New York winter and Georgia winter are NOT the same... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
1:49:40, "this is going further than a kiss"-Sheera 😅
Abby really blew Joels knee off the moment he said his names Joel. What if it was a different Joel?
Tommy had already said their names.
Joel and Tommy telling a bunch of armed complete strangers their actual names in one of the most out of character moments I've seen in a while.
@@Prushinthespirit It’s not though and such a dead talking point. Can you come up with something new that’s a little less asinine?
@@Prushinthespirit Ngl this is just a copy and paste answer
@@rocky_danger_buff5845 so? Only shows how many people notice this obvious stupidity.
Good stream as always roshi.
2:32:00 when they got about here, I remembered one of Berleezy’s stories. All the real ones know which one I’m talking about.🤣🔥
This stream was nothing but *emotional damage*
Can't wait for more
literally.
When has it not been that
I don't know how the hell the algorithm has hid this from me for so long but I am glad I found this. I love all your series reactions, I didn't know you did games! Time to binge
Finna replay the first game and fuck up Abby’s dad again
And the cycle of violence continues lol
@@kotabear6556 More like the cycle of punishing evil people trying to murder an innocent girl.
also buddy wasnt lying. the dialog while roaming reveals alot. i bet you miss it
He also needs to read the diary. I hope somebody tells him this.
59:10 yall seem to forget the 2 piece Lee handed to that dying light wannabe towards the end of the season
I played this for the first time about a year ago too, and felt super nostalgic about them playing Pearl Jam's Future Days, that just came out around the end of 2013, because that was exactly what I was listening to that year, the year the apocalypse happens in-game 😂.
Stream starts @ 3:30
Gameplay starts @ 9:35
Thanks zaddy
Thanks hero
Absolutely the goat
God bless
@@padawan_flamingo6895 ayo that's mad sus
You can use your entire area to your advantage when fighting, you can’t find health because they’re in the form of parts you have to look around if you want to build your inventory 🔥
17:42 I don't think you just wanna drink river water man 😅
dont normally watch stream vods but this was great, hopefully I'll catch pt2 live 👍
Man Sheera just couldn't let that cold thing go...
Rewatching their play through for the 3rd time😂❤
I loved part 2 and part 2 ripped my heart out but the story is really good
I'll be honest, I really liked the game when I first played it, but after replaying the first game and watching the series it really hits different
I was fine with Joel's death, but making us play as abby was a horrible decision. Thank god the gameplay was pretty good.
@@nickpalumbo8046 making us play as her was the best decision because you actually get to see what her life is like and how her and Ellie aren’t so different
@@thedarklightskin yeah bit they should of showed us how abby and ellie were similar before she kills joel not after. I just hated abby and everyone in her group from the start because of it. Also the ending was really dumb too.
@@nickpalumbo8046 why? The reason they showed us all this about her afterwords is so you can come to understand who she is the same way Ellie does at the ending and realize that they’re both the same.
The ending is great, because we as the audience and Ellie as the main character realize that no one needs to die
@@thedarklightskin Sorry but I'm not somone who can just forgive a person for killing somone I like, even if it was justified.
Also the end was so dumb because ellie went all that way to kill abby, lost 2 fingers fighting her and had abby dead to rights and at literally the last second ellie is like JK you can live. It's such bad writing.
I'm there with you re: Alabama. Had a negative experience every time I drove through that state. Didn't even stay
Perma death on grounded mode is pure hell!
perma death by whole game? per chapter or per act
@@plutotbh ??? Perma death is PERMA death, why would you change it mid game?
@@miguelamador4017 theres three different options of perma death. i’m playing on perma death per act which resets you hours backwards if you die
@@plutotbh sht, my bad, didnt knew!
@@miguelamador4017 you good my boy 🫱🏽🫲🏾
cant wait for the 10 hours abby speed run
This is one of my favorite story driven games, couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks and wanted to instantly replay it. Not something I often do for story heavy games.
Man i love this Game , i get why people hate it
But it's not Even close to be the trash that some people Say it is
@@gregoriomassa8529 just the false press, and if they did the days at the same time would have made it better for me
1:18:44 sounds like it said "die nigga" lol
The pain.
I'm not sure if I want to go through this again...
"I ain't seen no Long Johns"
that debate about which state is colder was killing me lmao, Sheera just gotta accept she's wrong sometimes
And the payoff with her saying "I didn't see no long johns". Legendary.
Fr. As a Canadian I'm just cackling hearing Sheera talking like this, absolutely hilarious 😭 I wear 3 layers every day and it's March.
I can’t get over how chat defaults to “if you don’t like the game’s story it’s because you just can’t get over Joel’s death” like no
I have almost zero problem with how Joel died. My problem is that the story you get after that is so not worth it
Everyone can have different opinions , if I don’t like it it’s fine . The problem is people saying that the problem is being “ woke “ and “Abby sucks “ without even playing it
@@Samuel-zd6cj I played it. The problem is the story is not good.
@@riastradh You a real one. The subreddit is the same. If u don't like the game they always say the same shit lmao.
@@riastradh story is good, better than the first imo. Like it was said before, everyone can have different opinions. Let people enjoy things.
@@Evadann and imo story is very very bad. Loses the main thing holding the first story together and tries replacing it with several things, none of which as compelling
Im so exited when the game comes out
Man the only game that made my gaming experience Appears again at this mature age
it is currently 20° colder in New York opposed to Georgia right now
Ellie dogwalks clem
Sheera...i live in atl georgia is not that cold😭
Wasn't expecting that life is strange "Is that grass?" line lol
2:24:00
I hate when games force you to slow walk. If it's that important for the moment then just make it a cutscene.
Facts
Sheera thinking Georgia winters were bad is crazy lol. Winters in Iowa get to fuckin -50 and that only gets worse the more North you go lol.
idk i’ve been in idaho when it was -20 and it felt like the 30 degrees in tennessee 😭
Not Birmingham being ghetto 😂😂
20:00 What we want to see
2:10:33 As the title suggests
*SPOILER* Holy shhhhh I never caught that but when Dina says “we believe in you”, it could jokingly mean Shimmer and Dina but I think she “accidentally” slipped up because she’s pregnant😂finally caught this on my 5th run lmao
Joel dying is heartbreaking but ur sins from ur past catch up to u sooner or later.
What sins? Saving your daughter? I'm done
@@dmitriimekh6288 the other ppl from his past he’s killed. One act of kindness does not erase all the bad he’s done.
@@mrdegrassifreak He didn't die for "killing other people" he died because he saved his daughter. Keep up.
@@dmitriimekh6288 These guys are braindead lol. No point in using logic with them.
I swear I can’t stand the people that are just saying “he saved his daughter“ he knew what he was doing. You’re just trying to give the murderer some sympathy. Man killed a doctor, who was going to make a cure in an apocalypse.
Thats crazy if she thinks Georgia is cold hahahahahahaha
It can get cold
Ghost of Tsushima so amazing
Ghost is trash when compared to other open world games.
@@timothyturner87 it has a good story and amazing sword combat. Not to mention environment is beautiful.
@@timothyturner87 L take, your taste is so garbage
@@thedarklightskin When is the last time you played GOT and how many times? Then tell me how many times you played Skyrim, Fallout, or Eldin Ring.
@@timothyturner87 I last played when the Directors cut came out. Nevertheless, it is fun and better than those other games in some aspects.
Hell yeah imma watch that RE4 stream.
Well this is the future welcome to the tlou season 2
I hate that he doesn't loot and that's the main thing u have to do cuz u need resources to craft
Sooooo glad you guys are starting this I JUST finished this a couple days ago and loved it sm
Same. Everything in the second half of the game was just amazing, the island & skyscraper & Rat King were my favourites I think
@@Evadann fr the whole lead up to rat king had me terrified 😭 did you end up liking Abby ?
The ppl think they’re so funny saying “scissor” during the kiss scene😵💫
Nice stream again today guys, can’t wait for y’all to play hifi rush.
Y’all gotta play Hifi rush
He said he would in the stream
this Rennorijin guy on the start is just funny
brooooo i cant believe i missed this stream
I'm like why does Abby sound like MJ from Spiderman PS4, then i remembered it's Laura Bailey 💀
about to do a second playthrough of this. I really enjoyed it but can understand why people hate it. If they rearranged some events I believe it would have been better.
Amazing and devastating storytelling 🔥
It does devastate established character traits, pacing and logic, that's for sure.
Ion know bout “amazing”
NPC comment for sure 🔥
Seeing those Abby deaths are therapeutic as ever
I hate how's he's exploring and keeping an eye out for supplies but just miss most of them by looking away from the screen or moving to fast but you do you Roshi supplies are limited as it is in hard mode
I really like tommy here he literally became the "BAba yaga" throughout the series
He became an old lady living in the woods in a house with chicken legs?
The way he almost wiped Abby whole crew 🤞🏼
You should start with part one
Lol, that shitty death got him twice but Lee's didnt even once!
Get over it oml
@@Evadann you too
Who got the link to 2:20? I know it's Crybaby but it's sounds fire
Honestly, one of my favourite games of all time.
If it's humid then it ain't cold. Y'all just don't know. There ain't a difference between -6 and -12. But there is a huge difference between -12 and -40. I lived and worked all across the country. Up north by the great lakes is the coldest I've ever seen. Georgia doesn't know.
Did they play Tlou part 1? Because all u can find is Tlou part 2 gameplay on them
definitely play ghost of tsushima
Let's go!
You're missing so much stuff. lol
There's a weird parallel between Maria and Sarah. In the game Maria and Sarah look actually kinda similar, which doesn't take much attention in of itself, but when suddenly show Sarah is mixed and show Maria is black I feel they were trying to draw some sort of parallel there, probably with Joel and Tommy and their little disposition on things and Joel's PTSD.
I grew up in Georgia. It's weather can be so erratic. It can be very cold there. Also there aren't that many palm trees lol, I was so confused by that.
25:22 her joke was better ngl 😂😂
It’s crazy that just because some people didn’t like the game they go out of their way to either spoil or ruin the experience for anyone else, I’ve never seen anything like it. I played the game, there’s a reason why it has the highest completion rate of any Sony title.
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I f*cking love this game.... LOVE
Smash Bran'Discootch defending this game with his life like calm down lil bro...
I still have to say this about TLOU1 - there was never going to be a cure.
The scientists were saying "surely THIS TIME it's gonna work," despite the fact that we learn throughout the game that there HAVE been others like Ellie, that they operated on to try to use their immunity as a cure. It NEVER works, and it ALWAYS kills the person. So Joel was right to save Ellie, even though his motivations were selfish.
The scientists were just grasping at straws, and they were going to kill ANOTHER person in a failed attempt to make a cure, rather than trying to find a different way. I still say Joel was right.
This is a misconception. Ellie is the ONLY immune subject that they found. They have worked on other ways to get a vaccine and those never worked. They never had an actual immune subject before. All of the other cases were normal Infected. People jumbled up multiple recordings and misunderstood them. Ellie was always the only known immune person.
This didn't happen, and is never stated anywhere in part one. Stop making shit up just for the sake of your own feelings.
When did we learn this? As far as I know Joel said there were others like her to make Ellie believe she wasn’t needed
@@WAyuso34
We never learned this. People misunderstood what was said. The doctor was referring to past infected subjects that they worked on and compared and contrasted them with Ellie’s infection. He states there are some similarities in how it affected their body, but there are key differences, namely that the fungus can’t control her limbic system and increase her aggression levels. Despite some of the telltale genetic signs that she is infected, Ellie’s system shows up as relatively normal, and that is why it was so critical to study exactly how she became immune to reverse engineer a vaccine. People also confuse the fact that the Fireflies have always been working on a vaccine and have failed in those attempts. Not that they failed with other immune subjects.
@@Ren_Davis0531 There is literally documentation in the game that you can find that describes what I said. They did the same thing to others that they wanted to do to Ellie, and it failed every time. Stop lying.
So how come the infected hate the mouse up but in the last of us part 1 the Giraffes were left untouched
LETS GOOOO! this gonna be a fun ride
When next stream!!??
Nawww tbh, Joel’s consequences happened to himself, mainly/at first. As much as i absolutely cried and loved him lmao, that was way different than what Negan did to Glenn. NOT TO MENTION it happened as a result of Daryl punching Negan, so tbf, Glenn’s was way worse. I equally say it sucks for the people that saw them too, because Ellie witnessed Joel and Maggie and friends witnessed Glenn
Roshi, How Tf do you be making these thumbnails??
It's definitely one of my favorite sequels to a game
i dont know. I think I like it better if they fill in the gaps between the two games with the tv series. Show what life was like for Joel and Ally in between the time skip. thats just me
Especially Abby. You don't get much of her pre-hospital shootout. It would be easier for audiences to understand her relationship between her father and her.
Love this Game not as much as part 1 but it's a 9/10 for me.
Solid 7 at best
@@dmitriimekh6288 na
@@gregoriomassa8529 tf are you talking about, this Game is hot garbage
@@dediualex3554 😴
The gameplay is definitely a good 7. But the story drags it down a lot.
One of my favorite recent games along with Prey and Red Dead 2
It blows my mind that some people ask for more mature storytelling in Triple-AAA games and then when they're given it, they can't handle the give-and-take complicated themes a well-written story poses. It's not a matter of whether or not you like the turn of events--that's completely subjective and no one is allowed to tell you how to feel about it; though that's a completely different conversation from calling 'choices you weren't a fan of' "bad writing". Those two things have no correlation. The two games' stories connect masterfully, Part I setting up Part II and not allowing a sequel to walk back Part I's choices just because the outcome is grounded in the theme that choices have consequences--that's the kind of writing we should expect from our entertainment. If you write in the context of a brutal world such as TLOU, you have to stick to your guns when the tough choices arise. That's a lot of what makes this game series so special--knowing that every character has their own point-of-view that is relatable if you apply the context that a character can only act on the information it has, not what the audience knows. Whether or not you agree with them is personal, but one undeniable fact about the series as a whole is that it's consistent. I, personally, applaud that while so many games play it safe and jump through hoops to deliver non-offensive, homogenized, eye-rolling by-the-numbers stories, some series--such as TLOU--venture into often uncharted territory that is uncomfortable and sometimes sad, to reach deep and deliver an experience not-soon forgotten by those that can stomach the reality of such a world. No character in this world is "right" or "wrong", everyone is just doing the best they have with the information they have. Even if you're not a fan--and that's perfectly fine--you should at least be able to respect that the game tries to reach deeper than surface-level storytelling to draw you in, regardless of whether you feel it it succeeded or not in doing so.
Yeah okay but there’s choices I’m not a fan of AND there’s bad writing.
@@riastradh You'd have to be more specific. I can't substantiate a counterpoint against such a generalized response like "bad writing" when TLOU2 as is consistent as its predecessor. If we're talking about objective metrics, you'd be hard-pressed to criticize one without the other. If it's a subjective issue, that's entirely up to the person viewing. "Bad writing" is a metric we can observe, contextualize and measure. It's not a purely subjective statement.
@@LockeNarshe Abby has no character. Her motivations are either unclear or lackluster, besides Lev her complains are uninteresting (if you even get to interact with them), her boss is a non character, she doesn’t even react to having to kill her own allies. It’s like her connection to the story is everyone else around her and everyone else around her is dull. I have less complaints about Ellie’s half but that’s more to it being less egregious than actually being better. Almost everyone in the game in one note and it’s awful
@@riastradh **BIG SPOILERS AHEAD**
Okay, we're starting way further back than I thought we would need to. Abby has no character? In what regards? Again, that's not specific and not a legitimate criticism--it's a nothing burger of a statement. She's a traumatized teenager whose father was brutally murdered by a smuggler who changed his mind in the eleventh hour after being contracted for a job--to which the Fireflies believed was humanity's chance at a vaccine. That's all she knows about Joel and that's all her perspective allows her to see at the start of her journey. Her motivations are crystal clear for going after Joel just from that statement alone. If you mean post-killing him, then you need to state that.
Context leads me to believe you meant "companions" rather than "complains". Concerning the Salt Lake crew--every one of them is layered outside of Whitney; the antithesis for what would be considered "one note". Owen is the moral center of the SLC & arguably the most optimistic & level-headed character in the series, whose main concern is helping Abby pick up the pieces of her shattered life while trying to keep hold of his own morality. His situation is incredibly complex while staying relatable. Owen & Manny were the ones to find Jerry's body and had to watch one of their closest friends break down in agony--not to mention the subsequent years of watching her compulsion eat her alive. By all accounts, they're both very loyal friends that aren't afraid to call Abby out--or each other--when needed.
While he doesn't quite have Owen's level of morality when it comes to "the enemy", Manny's arguably the glue that holds the group together and a caretaker by nature when it comes to his friends. He looks after his father's worsening illness with compassion, he's the one trying to get Abby and Mel to get along (part of his 'family'), he's combat-efficient and looks out for those around him. He also stays loyal to Abby when she needs him the most and risks his own ass by going against Isaac and the WLF to assist/cover for Abby while she searched for Owen.
I could expand this for every single character in the SLC. If you require more, I certainly will. Also, you missed a lot of context about Isaac, her boss. Most of his story exists prior to the events of Ellie arriving but has journal entries all throughout the game. Isaac is a very strong believer in an-eye-for-an-eye, which is not only told to us by Abby ("Who's more about justice than Isaac?"), but you can read all about it in written material you find along the way as he fought it out with FEDRA prior to the WLF's position of prominence in the region. The people who serve under his often share his ideals, which is why they follow him so loyally. A note from a building in Seattle: "Our strike against the FEDRA checkpoint worked. Killed at least three of those thugs, just a few wounded on our side. In the wake of our losses, it felt good to hit back. That night, we voted Isaac as the new commander. It was a contentious meeting - his summary execution of those prisoners still doesn't sit right with some people, but I like him. He can make the tough calls." This is one of many notes concerning who Isaac is and why people follow him--even the positive aspects of Isaac praising people under him for their hard work resisting FEDRA.
Do you see all of the context you've completely skipped over to form your baseless opinion?
@@riastradh Abby's connection to the story is that she was affected by Joel's actions. She's the other side of the coin that isn't often explored when we believe the "hero" (which Joel wasn't) is "doing what is necessary". She and her friends are the collateral left in the wake of Joel's selfish decisions--decisions he knew were against what Ellie wanted. You can still like Joel, even empathize with his impossible choice, without giving him a free pass. Like everyone else in this story, actions have consequences. Abby and friends were that consequence.
There are two responses to your inquiry, in case you only see this one.
My question is- how does Ellie run and jump in those skinny jeans?😅
Sorry sheera but NY is way colder scientifically the norther you go the colder it’s gonna get. in the US that is
Honestly i always thought abby was justified because Jole was selfish when he prevented them from making a cure and would do the same thing if it happened to Ellie so that's my opinion 2
But Abby didn't kill Joel for that reason. Nothing justifies killing someone else anyways unless it's for purely survival or out of self defense. If there weren't an apocalypse, Abby would be stealing Jell-O in prison for the rest of her natural life, lmao.
@@EditsbyTotobut she did kill Joel for that reason? Why do you think she did it if not for that one incident that the games tells you is why
@@Lc-Anders OP implies she kills him due to his prevention of the world receiving a cure when it's actually because he [don't really wanna post a spoiler because there are some people who are new to this game's lore still.]. It was a revenge murder. Yeah, her friends came along for retribution to not getting a cure, but I was stating she did NOT trek across the U.S because of Joel's selfish decision of pulling Ellie off the table.
@@Lc-Anders He's right though, Abby killed Joel because she was mad he killed her father, even though she knew her father tried killing his daughter. That's literally it, the game makes it very clear. The game never once makes a note that she knows about Ellie being the cure and is why she had to die. Even then, you can't be mad at a father for killing the man that was going to kill his daughter. Abby was just poorly written.
@@Lc-Anders Also you'd do well to remember that there was no cure, the doctor FELT like it MIGHT be a cure. There was no guarantee. For all anyone knows, he could've killed Ellie for no reason. They even make it obvious that he's killed others in name of a "cure". So obviously Joel was right to kill him and protect his daughter. Abby is just an idiot.
So roshi you said that he was busting her balls I can't tell when someone's doing that can you tell me how you can determine that cuz I don't know
How did they get the last of us episodes early? Is that a thing for reactors?
Wait, did they say the got the episodes early? I remember Roshi said he'll play part 2 after finishing the show, but the show isn't finished yet
@Damn yeah at the beginning they say they have done with the season, that they get episodes early. They already watched 8 and 9
@@damn8759 around 4:20 mark. You might have to go back a few seconds
I think he said they got the episodes early because of a media pass or something like that
@Ax Man but did they recorded already or are we gonna be watching fake reactions to something they already watched
2:37:14
arkham knight when?
@Yaboyroshi please play horror game home sweet home love from india ❤️
Fire stream🔥 you the best Roshi, will u do reaction to mandalorian season 3?)
They watch that in their off time
Oh this isn’t live…… I’m stupid
Bruh
Bueeeeee
You know.... I don't think there is a single comment for this game that gives it a middle ground. I am not a fan of the writing. Period. Some characters were okay, I guess. The pacing was strange at times. The graphics, gameplay, music, were very nice. Joel dying the way he did I personally would have wanted to be different, but I don't have a problem with him dying. I hate what they did with Jesse most of all. Lev's story was cool. The ending felt like the writers just gave up in the end. It didn't feel as open ended as the first game because -well we all can probably guess-. I'd give it a 5/10. Not quite sure what specifically gave it GOTY
the walking dead.....just another negan moment
Ayy my girl Abby. Can't wait for more gameplay 😊