Always a pleasure to learn from these two. No jumping up and down, just two pros being pros. It seems to me all these GOAT conversations are from fans who just want to hear themselves talk. They are circular discussions without end. You can’t put a box around it to reach a conclusion. I’ve started to think in terms of who was the best in their sport of a generation. You can usually have just as much fun and more often reach an agreeable conclusion.
It's always interesting to see Jay Bilas on shows like the Dan Patrick Show! His insights into basketball, coupled with his articulate and thoughtful analysis, really add depth to any conversation. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just casually interested, there's always something to learn or a new perspective to consider. It's great that you're keeping up with interviews like these; they can really enrich your understanding and appreciation of the game. What did you think about the interview? Any standout moments or takeaways for you?
Last time we saw a player dominate the news cycle and fan interest this way was Larry Bird taking tiny Indiana State to an undefeated season and a showdown with Magic and Michigan State.
@@20Schmidt....she does....all athletes...male and female must be held to the same standard....to be the greatest or 1 of...she needs a championship...no moral victories......
Dan seems really intent on having the lowest common denominator typical sportstalk interview of "how great is she?" blah blah blah. Bilas is trying to get him to elevate the conversation and appreciate her as the player she is and it's like Dan is incapable (or unwilling) to do so.
And he has to bring up Lebron for no apparent reason...out of all the questions he could have asked he brings up Lebron...really? No shame in Dan's game.
The 1-and Done rule, and a lul bit of the Transfer Portal, is why, for the most part, Mens College Bball is unwatchable till the Final Four tourney. And it will continue for the foreseeable future
so maybe they are compareable... thats the point.. all these people touting pete is so much better this or that. i just disagree with that... in an equal work they are fairly close @@gtizzle7606
I get annoyed when Dan talks about "theres no star power"...i could care less about "star power"...I watch because i like the game...after all, its the media that creates "stars."...it almost felt like he was bashing college basketball instead of promoting it...you cant force college basketball on others the way you do the nfl is what Bilas was saying imo..i read.between the lines
Fair enough, but college basketball is a lot more exciting when a team has 2 or 3 great players that stay there for a few years, and you know there's going to be exciting plays when you tune in, and that the team will be good.........if it's just a program that you root for, and there's a bunch of no-names that rotate in and out, it's not as good.
@@JK-br1muI get it but "great players" or freaks of nature like Zion are rare...if you want to get fans who do not normally watch college basketball then "star" players are great...but ultimately people who like college basketball will watch regardless....and college basketball is more about team ball anyways...don't get me wrong, i would like to see a "Kobe Bryant" play in college but it is what it is...its still a great product without the great player imo.
I think the nuanced got lost while they were discussing the comments two weeks ago. It was not who the greatest was, it was Jay refusing to call her great, cause she hasn't won a championship yet. They just can not keep on target here.
Dan's absolutely right, there's no star power in men's college basketball. UConn is trying to repeat as champions & I've not heard this mentioned one time on ESPN/SportsCenter college basketball coverage, nor is the narrative of a repeat winner pushed. Even if UConn doesn't have one standout player they can focus on, they should still be pushing the team as trying to repeat. If this were football & Georgia, Alabama, Michigan or Ohio St going for a repeat you'd hear that talked about multiple times daily on national sports news & local sports shows as well. Whoever is promoting/marketing men's basketball is doing a horrible job, they're really doing a disservice to the game & the players
The Bears should trade down as much as possible, sign Baker Mayfield to a pricy 1 year deal…then draft a new QB with the new coach they’ll inevitably get next year if they aren’t 100% sold on Caleb Williams. This will be a wasted year anyway. Bakers play is perfect for Chicago.
Caitlin Clark is the first true college basketball star in at least the last three decades. Back when I was growing up, they were all kinds of college basketball stars because they stayed in school for four years. And you got to know them as college players. certainly on the men’s side that just does not happen anymore. And as far as fan storming the court, at the end of college sporting events. That does not show passion that shows utter stupidity. They don’t allow this kind of shit at professional events. Why should it be allowed at college events.
Dan says the same every year it seems...true basketball fans will watch college basketball...they dont need no gimmicks or "in-season-tournament" to draw more fans...it is what it is...with the nba being as bad as it is- im sure a lot of those fans will start watching more college basketball.
Agreed, Great and greatest are a different subject! No doubt that Clark is great, but she's not the greatest! I'd agree with Dan about Brianna Stewert as the greatest ever! BTW UCONN has been going around selling out other team's arenas for decades, so its not new! The UCONN/Notre Dame, UCONN/Rutgers, UCONN/Tenn in women, and UCLA/Houston, Duke/NC, Duke UCONN, Kentucky/Duke, Kentucky/Kansas in men's games were always huge in their days!
Everyone made a big deal about court storming and the kid from Duke is out playing and dunking a week later. I normally agree with Jay but this feels like him looking for a cause
c'mon Dan, didn't even talk about men's or women's NCAA fields this year, and his thoughts on the bubble teams? instead the same exact questions Jim got, with basically the same answers. zzzzzzzzzzz
I agree...ultimately you're only as good as the other 4 players on the court...having said that, Caitlyn Clark has a very good squad this year....theres also a lot parity in the women's game, more than I can ever remember...it has the makings to be their greatest tournament ever.
Please don't retire Dan. Broadcasting CAN be an old man's game!!
What the does Lebron have to do with Caitlyn Clark is pretty much what Bilas was saying without being rude...Thank you!
Always a pleasure to learn from these two. No jumping up and down, just two pros being pros.
It seems to me all these GOAT conversations are from fans who just want to hear themselves talk. They are circular discussions without end. You can’t put a box around it to reach a conclusion. I’ve started to think in terms of who was the best in their sport of a generation. You can usually have just as much fun and more often reach an agreeable conclusion.
It's always interesting to see Jay Bilas on shows like the Dan Patrick Show! His insights into basketball, coupled with his articulate and thoughtful analysis, really add depth to any conversation. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just casually interested, there's always something to learn or a new perspective to consider. It's great that you're keeping up with interviews like these; they can really enrich your understanding and appreciation of the game. What did you think about the interview? Any standout moments or takeaways for you?
Jay is right. The nfl has become a juggernaut. Dan will spend an hour on the combine, not the draft but the pre pre pre workouts.
You can go through every record in every sport and do "If..." all day long.
Jay actually SAID IOWA is a small college that plays small schools. Big talent in a small pond.
Last time we saw a player dominate the news cycle and fan interest this way was Larry Bird taking tiny Indiana State to an undefeated season and a showdown with Magic and Michigan State.
I'm curious whose Georgia helmet Jay has hanging behind him.
I saw all of the candidates for greatest woman basketball of all time. The best was Ann Meyers.
Regarding Caitlyn Clark, you could probably use the same comparison that was made about Roger Maris in 61, she was bigger than the game
Jay: there's a subconscious negative against Kareem's greatness because he's so tall.
Jay has the Bob Knight bobblehead in the background
It's That time of the year
With all the hype...she needs a championship.......
I dont think so...winning a title is a team thing..she's doing her part (all she can control)
@@20Schmidt....she does....all athletes...male and female must be held to the same standard....to be the greatest or 1 of...she needs a championship...no moral victories......
Indeed, it is what it is (NFL/college football remains king in this country)...its simple.
Who's more important to espn, Jay bilas or kirk herbstreit?
Bilas by a very wide margin
Dan seems really intent on having the lowest common denominator typical sportstalk interview of "how great is she?" blah blah blah. Bilas is trying to get him to elevate the conversation and appreciate her as the player she is and it's like Dan is incapable (or unwilling) to do so.
And he has to bring up Lebron for no apparent reason...out of all the questions he could have asked he brings up Lebron...really? No shame in Dan's game.
When the networks start giving players NIL deals to stay in college....💀
Amazing how many former WNBA be hating on Clark
The 1-and Done rule, and a lul bit of the Transfer Portal, is why, for the most part, Mens College Bball is unwatchable till the Final Four tourney. And it will continue for the foreseeable future
That's what casual fans say all the time..just admit it (youre not a dehard college hoops fan...its ok)
The tournament is the only thing that matters.
Pete also took over 2x more shots per game than Caitlin did. Caitlin would have 7000 pts if she did that.
Maravich would have 7000 points if he played 4 years and had a 3 point line.
so maybe they are compareable... thats the point.. all these people touting pete is so much better this or that. i just disagree with that... in an equal work they are fairly close @@gtizzle7606
@@gtizzle7606I was going to say the same thing
Pete had too.
I get annoyed when Dan talks about "theres no star power"...i could care less about "star power"...I watch because i like the game...after all, its the media that creates "stars."...it almost felt like he was bashing college basketball instead of promoting it...you cant force college basketball on others the way you do the nfl is what Bilas was saying imo..i read.between the lines
Fair enough, but college basketball is a lot more exciting when a team has 2 or 3 great players that stay there for a few years, and you know there's going to be exciting plays when you tune in, and that the team will be good.........if it's just a program that you root for, and there's a bunch of no-names that rotate in and out, it's not as good.
@@JK-br1muI get it but "great players" or freaks of nature like Zion are rare...if you want to get fans who do not normally watch college basketball then "star" players are great...but ultimately people who like college basketball will watch regardless....and college basketball is more about team ball anyways...don't get me wrong, i would like to see a "Kobe Bryant" play in college but it is what it is...its still a great product without the great player imo.
I think the nuanced got lost while they were discussing the comments two weeks ago. It was not who the greatest was, it was Jay refusing to call her great, cause she hasn't won a championship yet. They just can not keep on target here.
Dan's absolutely right, there's no star power in men's college basketball. UConn is trying to repeat as champions & I've not heard this mentioned one time on ESPN/SportsCenter college basketball coverage, nor is the narrative of a repeat winner pushed. Even if UConn doesn't have one standout player they can focus on, they should still be pushing the team as trying to repeat. If this were football & Georgia, Alabama, Michigan or Ohio St going for a repeat you'd hear that talked about multiple times daily on national sports news & local sports shows as well. Whoever is promoting/marketing men's basketball is doing a horrible job, they're really doing a disservice to the game & the players
ESPN only cares about east coast star making e.g. Zion
Football is king.
The Bears should trade down as much as possible, sign Baker Mayfield to a pricy 1 year deal…then draft a new QB with the new coach they’ll inevitably get next year if they aren’t 100% sold on Caleb Williams. This will be a wasted year anyway. Bakers play is perfect for Chicago.
Caitlin Clark is the first true college basketball star in at least the last three decades. Back when I was growing up, they were all kinds of college basketball stars because they stayed in school for four years. And you got to know them as college players. certainly on the men’s side that just does not happen anymore.
And as far as fan storming the court, at the end of college sporting events. That does not show passion that shows utter stupidity. They don’t allow this kind of shit at professional events. Why should it be allowed at college events.
Finally broke down and watched some Caitlin Clark highlights just now after all this hype, and.........she plays like a girl.
Has IOWA W BB ever won a Chip ??
12:00 is just denial
Dan says the same every year it seems...true basketball fans will watch college basketball...they dont need no gimmicks or "in-season-tournament" to draw more fans...it is what it is...with the nba being as bad as it is- im sure a lot of those fans will start watching more college basketball.
Agreed, Great and greatest are a different subject!
No doubt that Clark is great, but she's not the greatest!
I'd agree with Dan about Brianna Stewert as the greatest ever!
BTW UCONN has been going around selling out other team's arenas for decades,
so its not new!
The UCONN/Notre Dame, UCONN/Rutgers, UCONN/Tenn in women, and UCLA/Houston, Duke/NC, Duke UCONN, Kentucky/Duke, Kentucky/Kansas in men's games were always huge in their days!
Let me guess, he had to work in an “NCAA bad”
Everyone made a big deal about court storming and the kid from Duke is out playing and dunking a week later. I normally agree with Jay but this feels like him looking for a cause
Regardless of the duke kid, court storming needs to stop.
You're not stopping court storming.
c'mon Dan, didn't even talk about men's or women's NCAA fields this year, and his thoughts on the bubble teams? instead the same exact questions Jim got, with basically the same answers. zzzzzzzzzzz
It's not about titles in college because unless you transfer you could be stuck on a shit team. So greatest ever is quantified by points and assists
I agree...ultimately you're only as good as the other 4 players on the court...having said that, Caitlyn Clark has a very good squad this year....theres also a lot parity in the women's game, more than I can ever remember...it has the makings to be their greatest tournament ever.
You're right bilas, maravich couldn't pass at all.
That Evans contract is a freaking joke...way overpay an older player that gets hurt a lot... ridiculous...👎
Dan is a 🤡
Jay is a clown 🤡
Bilas sucks
Taurasi or Beckers (healthy) would break Clark on the court. This is a flawed “record”.
Thats a big IF staying healthy for 4 years is nearly impossible. Good try
and you know this how?
No way, now if you'd said Sheryl Miller I might've agreed with you
I would pay to see Caitlin Clark and Paige Bueckers go one on one.
She can only play the Players and Teams that she faces. Your statement is more flawed than her record.