"But they must be destroyed" | How Rocky Mountain makes (and breaks) mountain bikes
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- We visit Rocky Mountain's research and development lab on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC, to see what goes in to bringing a mountain bike from the drawing board to the trails.
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00:00 - History lesson with Wade Simmons
5:44 - Off topic?
7:42 - Talking with Lyle about their testing process
8:40 - Creating test bikes prior to development
10:50 - Head tube flex machine
12:15 - Breaking a frame
15:03 - Head tube strength
15:30 - Pedaling a bike to death on the pedal tester
18:13 - Ebike test mules
19:09 - Aligning frames on the alignment table
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Wade Simmons put a riser bar on my new Kona Caldera in the 90s when he was at the Cove shop. He and I were the only ones in the shop that night chatting it up and he said he was in a bike film premiering that week downtown in Vancouver. He told me that he hopes this whole free riding thing he was involved in takes off and was a success. Cool to have meet him that way.
Obi-Wan is an incredible bike engineer.
Indeed. Who'da thunk!
- Dan P.
Tell me you never get laid without actually telling me you never, and I mean never, get laid.
@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeshe said something funny why you hating
@mtbracer123 you kinda took that personally eh?
@@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes not really your just being a dick for no reason
Wade has enough energy for two people.
He was great. Absolute character.
Cheers - Dan P.
He's like a Canadian Rob Warner!
That was pretty damn interesting, well done lads.
Lyle's comments about how small or new manufacturers with just a few frames under their umbrella having a tough time resonates with me. I had a Revel Rascal for a few years, which was honestly a pretty great bike in a lot of ways, but suffered greatly from poor frame alignment and quality. The bearings ate themselves, it always made noise, it was way heavier than it should have been. I think Revel has a lot of potential, but in retrospect I should have known better than to buy one of their debut models.
Awesome video. Very interesting. 👍
Great video all around. Fingers crossed Lyle doesn't join the dark side.
This sales guy makes me want to buy a Rocky just watching this video. Great video guys! Cool to see so much of the brains and work to make great bikes.
I’ve owned 3 RMB’s over the last 25 years or so, 2 Elements and 1Fusion. All great rides. All well built.
I only have one rocky. A red 1991 Rocky Mountain Hammer.
Great video!
Thanks Joe!
- Dan P.
Well done! Very interesting video.
What about the pain test for their carbon frame?
Good job Dan.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
- Dan P.
Uncle Wade!
great video!
Thank you!
- Dan P.
Thanks for that insider look to a process we all take for granted. I was just as laid back as you think, but serious enough to have confidence in a product. I have now more respect for their bikes after seeing this, and been looking at RM bikes too to upgrade in the future.
Glad you enjoyed it! Lyle was a wealth of knowledge, it was cool getting to talk to him.
Holler if you ever have any questions about the bikes!
- Dan P.
I could listen to Lyle explain stuff all day long.
He was a wealth of knowledge, it was great talking with him!
- Dan P
Kinda gay
Very cool. My most ridden rocky is an element 70 from 2009. Never let me down.
I just bought my first rocky mountain 11 days ago, a growler, because I wanted a DH capable climbing bike for under 1k that I can play with and build over time. And because who wouldn't look like a psychopath showing up to the group ride on a hardtail with slacker geo than most fs rigs.😅🤙
So fascinating. Glad I watched this.
Glad you enjoyed it!!
- Dan P.
Very fascinating exposé, my kinda thing..
such an interesting video, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed!
I still own an old school Rocky Mountain Hammer in black. I also have a 2004 Balfa BB7 that was briefly owned by Rocky. Used to have a Blizzard that was hand built by Chris Dekerf.
Oh dang. That's some real bike history right there!
Cheers - Dan P.
Hoo Koo E Koo Trail is right out my front door!
Rad!! Where abouts?
- Dan P.
Snapped a seat stay right at the rear axle last year on my 2018 RM a instinct A50. Rocky did warranty it, but it’s a common occurrence with RM rear triangles. I did love my RM thou.
I have an ‘01 Slayer, still has the original tires on it. Clearly I didn’t ride it enough. Looks good though and looks brand new. 😊
I have a Thunderbolt in the same Canadacentric paint scheme as seen at 0:33. I love the bike, and the look. In a sea of bikes that are black with accents in various neon colors, it really stands out.
I'm in Wa. State, can you define " Canadacentric "?
@@RUclipsOdyssey the red on white motif with the red maple leaves!
I love doin' wheelies on my RM. It's a bit heavy for hours of wheelies, but I'm leaner than ever and old as dirt.
Very informative - I wonder if most mass produced frames get thorough testing like this.
Rocky Mountain are mass produced
RM frames like basically every other company's frames are made in Asia, some of the best frames in the world come out of Taiwan. What you are seeing in this video is product development.
I bought the rocky mountain fusion and upgraded few parts . Rm makes awesome bikes
now i did hit play,! and love it! more color grading tho eh..
I thought freeride originated in Laguna in late 70’s early 80’s with Laguna tech terrain and the Rads?
many did the Element style. Giant, Caloi, Mongoose etc... but for cross country i thought they were the best as climbing means much to me
tell wade simmons to put some beard shine in! and that his designs are boss man bro siick! send it!
i did not yet hit play, just wanted to say, BEST FUXKING DESC/THUMB EVER!.
hahaha thanks!
I have question, there are some bikes that are not like the main market let’s say a Slopestyle bike I have seen Rockymountain Slopestyle bike and it was really cool but of course they don’t sell it. What if companies just make it order to made or made to order something like that I would happy to wait
I think you hit the nail on the head as to why they aren't mass produced-the brand doesn't see enough of a market for them. That said, these types of bikes are available from smaller manufacturers, I bet you could find one for sale with a little digging!
Cheers - Dan P.
I just but a deposit on (2) new Element C50s... this video only makes me more excited about getting the bikes...
It’s like they’re making a new season of “The Red Green Show”!
Wade is a menace and I mean that in the best way possible lol
I got a Growler 50 on the way!
Ooo exciting!
He looks like the guy from myth busters💀
Ha, he kinda does! Lyle was a great host and super informative.
Cheers - Dan P.
2:12 you! wtf! thats how last years suspension was geometried and you were doing them "in the EARLY 200s ", siick, so so flex!
Lol these guys don't give a fawk... I like it!
Bike testing… of course it’s measured in cycles!
Hahahah, good catch!
- Dan P
Yup, he went way more rad than he should have.
17:21 sounds like they are lacking FEA simulation capabilities.
Sounds more like FEA helps but real tests give touchable results
FEA only tells you so much, definitely a GIGO situation though. There is a reason that physical testing still has a place in engineering
@@maciejzwolinski4022 trial and error testing prototypes can be very expensive and much slower to arrive at a solution. When strain gauge measurements can be used in conjunction with FEA, the end model can be very accurate.
Using the old-time “By Guess and By Golly” approach to design is antiquated and inefficient. I can’t think of a single automotive engineering company that will produce suspension components without FEA simulation beforehand.
@@tristanhanley8741 agreed. Either the design engineer was provided garbage input loads into the shock tab, or he didn’t run any stress analysis before cutting metal.
Definitely the test lab is the last line of defense to guard against component failures-I’m somewhat surprised RM shared this design flaw on RUclips, as most OEMs are pretty tight lipped.
Who said they don't run FEA simulations? Random guy in a RUclips comment section? Take a look at Ministry cycles psalm frame - cracked prototype during efbe test despite FEA analysis. Same about kaventz.
After watching this, my next bike is going to be a RM...
You Know, You Know, You know. etc. ......
Go titanium ull have a bike for life
Boycott Rocky Mtn until they’re made in Canada again
Very informative, but it seemed like the cameraman was constantly on their phone distracted, things out of frame, moving around chaotically, little stabilization, etc. I had to stop watching because it felt like they were gonna walk away at random points.
Rocky Mountain had so much potential in the early 2000s. Now they're just an afterthought in the mind of the consumer.
So what’s the new bike they’re testing 🫣
Is the host a serial killer
Serial killer of bike frames!!
Lyle was a phenomenal host and incredibly knowledgeable.
- Dan P.
@@FanatikBikeCo i was talking about the host of the show not the rocky mountain employee
Dan has been known to kill trail features from time to time
How bout you stop over charging for your bikes and god sakes change the paint. Rocky mountain has some of the worst paint jobs and boring looking bikes
Paint chips so easy on there bikes too crazy!!!
Do you buy a sports car based on interior materials and paint and not on handling and feel?