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*Is Jesus God or is He the Son of God ?*
Jesus said that He was not the Father more than 80 times.
While remaining one in purpose and unity, Jesus and the Father are clearly two separate and distinct beings.
On more than one occasion, the Father spoke to Jesus from heaven.
“And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, 'This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased'.”
(Matthew 3:17)
Either Jesus and the Father are two separate beings or Jesus was an expert ventriloquist.
Jesus “asked His disciples, saying, Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am ?
So they said, Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.
He said to them, But who do you say that I am ?
Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.”
(Matthew 16:13-17)
This passage says that the FATHER who is in HEAVEN, revealed to Peter, that JESUS who was on EARTH, is none other than His Son.
So what would you say if Jesus asked you who He was ?
Would you say, “you are part of some 3 in 1 god and just role playing a son ?”
Or would you be able to answer as Peter did ?
“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Scripture in fact calls Jesus the Son of God over and over again,.but it never calls Him
“god the son.”
But how do we reconcile Hebrews and John chapter 1 which refer to Jesus as God ?
These verses have confused many and yet the answer is so simple.
The word God is used in two different ways in Scripture.
Firstly, the word “God” is used to refer to the Supreme Being of the universe who is the ultimate source of all things.
Every time the Bible refers to the one true God, it is referring to this supreme being who is the one that was before all else and from whom all life ultimately came.
In this sense no one else is God.
But the word God is also used to refer to someone who possesses the attributes of divinity, or the characteristics of God.
Since Christ is the same substance of His Father, everything He consists of had no beginning.
His divinity had no beginning, His makeup; His nature had no beginning as it all came from the Father.
So in principle, everything Christ is had no beginning.
If you trace Christ back you will have to go through the Father and you will never get to a beginning.
But His personality as the Son of God began when He was brought forth by His Father.
So Christ is essentially God in infinity but not in personality.
His personality began when He was brought forth from the Father in the days of eternity or days of everlasting.
This is the time before all things were created when there was nothing to measure time by.
So in effect it was only the personality of Christ as the Son of God that had a beginning.
So when we say Christ is God, we mean that He is the same substance of His Father and hence has the same God nature as His Father, but He is not God the Father.
Scripture always calls Jesus the “Son of God,” but NEVER “god the son” as Trinitarians do, and with very good reason.
“Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.
HE WAS BEGOTTEN, NOT CREATED.
He is of the SUBSTANCE OF THE FATHER, so that IN HIS VERY NATURE HE IS GOD;
and since this is so “it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.”
Col. 1:19 ... While BOTH ARE OF THE SAME NATURE, the Father is first in point of time.
He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while CHRIST'S PERSONALITY HAD A BEGINNING.”
(E.J. Waggoner, ST, April 8, 1889)
“This name [God] was not given to Christ in consequence of some great achievement, but it is His by right of inheritance.
Speaking of the power and greatness of Christ, the writer to the Hebrews says that He is made so much better than the angels, because “He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.”
Heb. 1:4
A son always rightfully takes the name of the father; and Christ, as “the only begotten Son of God,” has rightfully the same name.
A son, also, is, to a greater or less degree, a reproduction of the father; he has, to some extent, the features and personal characteristics of his father; not perfectly, because there is no perfect reproduction among mankind.
But there is no imperfection in God, or in any of His works; and so Christ is the “express image” of the Father's person.
Heb. 1:3
As the Son of the self-existent God, he has by nature all the attributes of Deity.
It is true that there are many sons of God; but Christ is the “only begotten Son of God,” and therefore the Son of God in a sense in which no other being ever was, or ever can be.
The angels are sons of God, as was Adam (Job 38:7; Luke 3:38), by creation;
Christians are the sons of God by adoption (Rom. 8:14,15);
but CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD BY BIRTH.
The writer to the Hebrews further shows that the position of the Son of God is not one to which Christ has been elevated, but that it is one which He has by right.”
(E.J. Waggoner, CAHR, p. 11-12)
“For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;”
(Colossians 1:19)
Why does “all the fullness of the Godhead” dwell in Christ bodily ?
Because Jesus is the firstborn over all creation (Colossians 1:15), and being brought forth from the Father, He has the same “divine nature” as He is the same substance as the Father.
John 5:26 also tells us that the Father gave life to His Son.
“For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself.”
(John 5:26)
If Jesus had always existed alongside the Father as the Trinity doctrine claims, then God could not have given life to His Son as He would have always had life.
But Scripture reveals this is impossible.
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