A guy that owed me money 20+yrs ago traded me his whole card shop for the debt and I've had a storage unit full of unopened inventory and slabs from the shop that I haven't cracked the door open in 15yrs....I remember boxes of red,white and blue fleer basketball boxes ...this guy just got 125k for this new stuff????🤯🤯🤯🤯WTH IS GOING ON WITH THIS HOBBY!!!!!!!!!
I don’t think I have ever seen a negotiation where the seller never said a player/card name. This guy just must have been a straight gambler ripping boxes and getting in breaks. Seemed like he knew very little about what he had. That in combination with 125k in retail pokemon baffles me.
125k in retail Pokemon. Doesn't sound like you know what your talking about either. There is only one kind of Pokemon. Thankfully. I would hate to see Pokemon become like sports cards where you have cards for the rich (hobby) and junk for the poor (retail).
@@buffalobill9793Retail pokemon is just a word used do describe the typical stuff you find in WalMarts and Targets. Sorry to offend you with the way I worded it. I have just never seen sealed booster, blister, or ETB cases in WalMart. If he brought in some cases like that I would expect the 125k valuation to add up a lot quicker.
@@Noname23489 that’s not the point his point was because he spent so much on ripping that it should be worth more which is just fundamentally flawed - expecting 100 ROI on what’s really gambling is crazy
@@Noname23489 and he wanted to be at $35k for cards barely worth a dollar and you can tell he was getting flustered - personally I would’ve let that man walk out the door, he’s got more of a burden trying to find another buyer lugging that back , U-Haul rental, gas, time, etc. 99% of LCS aren’t spending anywhere close to that time going through every card
Everyone mad at the seller but a lot of ppl are just happy to make a deal with Geoff and end up leaving 2k on the table.Kudos to the guy for getting an extra 2k on the sellers end.
You got to appreciate Geoffs transparency on the evaluation of the cards… He knew the cards were undervalued, but he also knew that by utilizing his clout on Whatnot that he could get the prices he needs to make a profit… To have that conversation filmed and put on live. You have to respect the transparency. Plus the difference in being able to communicate and talk with somebody in a negotiation goes a long way , it saved the deal!
There is no way they are paying him 80% of the value of his collection! Also they will get all those idiots and morons on Whatnot to overpay for the cards they sell on there.
@@Noname23489 exactly. I've seen some of those Whatnot shows and people are so stupid. They pay 5 or 10 times what a card is worth. They could get it much cheaper on Ebay or a card show.
@@jeffsmall1856 gotta admit first time I downloaded what not I bought some lots but I definitely overplayed once I searched them up on eBay. Hobby is cooked smh
That guy was super happy with the 100k plus 2,700 in store credit for the Pokémon cards. If they made a package deal, he probably would've sold the cards and pokemon for 100k and 2,700 credit
Came down to Florida on vacation from Michigan. Brought a stack of graded down with me to visit this place. I comped my stack from cardladder at around $1200. Fat boy offered me $350. I couldn’t believe it. I laughed and turned around and left. They do have a lot of overhead though…so
Soo the guy with a chronic gambling (ripping wax) addiction also has 100k+ in sealed pokemon that he didn't have the itch to rip? In my professional opinion, he forsure just washed his money with the help of Shop HQ haha
I love for either of you to explain the difference between playing poker at a casino or poker room and buying(collecting) cards today, as they are both Games of Chance!
First, poker is not a game of chance. Second, cards are a physical very liquid asset. Even if a $1k card drops in value I can still get some money back if I sell at a loss. If I lose a $1k poker hand, I’m out 100% of that money.
I just do not have the patience to deal with some of these "sellers". I would have told him to just go ahead and send his crusty little cards to PSA and sell them. So he can see how much hard work that takes.
"Thinking of sending stuff to PSA" to triple money yet never did it and the collection became this massive. . . its a ton of work, labor and time though
@zachsabbath1 he needs product to make money, guy has much product to fill store, guy sells much product, store sells product for profit., both make money. uhga booga smh, you understand?
i think its actually a negotiation tactic, if he act all cool and calm with whatever they're saying, it won't put pressure on geoff to up his offer, and in the end, he ultimately made them increase their offer (meaning, maybe he was cool with 20k actually but knew he can get more by being more difficult etc)
Solid deal made here, appreciate seeing the level of detail and research put in to making it happen. Yinz guys are fair to both buyers and sellers on this one. Great video!
Those weren’t his cards.. he didnt know any lingual towards the hobby.. only sed number cards autos and thats it.. didnt try to pull out any cards to prove a price fact or nothing.. thats why theres only 33 comments and all about “what a great deal and good negotiating” basically influencing the comments to follow suit..? So sloppy with their acting and planning work!!
Say what you will but Ryan is a gem of a hire. Guy knows his stuff and refuses to get bullied. Something did seem really off about this whole trade though.
I know nothing about sports cards but it was such a great Insight look at the high-end negotiations that take place in this world. A gem of a video phenomenal 👏👏👏
Bad deal. You guys bended to him. He drove all that way and you were in full control - where else is he gonna get a better value than you at once? You also overpaid on the Pokemon by 10%. Oh well. Good luck!
You could tell they overpaid when the guy whipped out his hand in an instant...Like he was shocked.Meanwhile he counter offered on the other cards up the ying yang!
Nice bought the sports cards for 23,000 and easily gonna make over 100,000 with all those auctions not to mention getting ebay prices at his store. In my opinion you ripped that guy off 35,000 was a fair deal.
Maybe you can help. In my second box of Bowman Chrome I pulled a Topps Chrome Aaron Judge Hidden Gems. Any info would be great. Not much info out there about these.
3 Things; 1. Never Do Business with these type of person ever again. 2. We need the Full Video, days, eveything about this Purchased 3. In the Future we want the Full Experience when doing these Deals...
Your editor needs to lower the music when people are talking. Makes it difficult to understand when it's that loud. He needs to rewatch the edit and not just render it when it's done. That way he catches stuff like that.
This is called ( Collectors Fallacy ) normal joes who think they have more value that they actually have and get hung up on the quantity vs quality ,while being disconnected from reality when receiving the number of what things are actually worth.
seller doesnt seem to know anything about cards. he also seems to forget that a deal like this the buyer has to make money, takes all the risk and time and effort to sell the cards
He is trying to value the cards at the highest even if they were Graded, but they're not. Not every card is worth grading It costs money to grade and sell the cards after.
This stuff including the ever popular one of ones one of tens...one of 25 Wembys supper refractors refractors etc etc etc...Such a con...will be worth 20 bucks tops in 10 years with all the new names coming up guys like this will dissapear...Their the Chris Boshes of the NBA...Chris who you say???/Exactly my point! I love the owner but in 2 years he's gonna go from 40 employees to 3 and be close to Bankruptcy at this place.
Bottom tier pokemon boxes being shown like academy, decks, holiday calendar etc... seems sus, no one buys those like that for any type of reason unless he got it at a super clearance from someone. Very strange, seems backdoored from walmart or something. Things like this, card shops should take the extra step to make sure it wasn't stolen
The problem is he thinks he can get the most out of all those cards, but not every card gets graded and gets a good grading, Some of them were not worth grading
That whole sentimental thing and not realizing you guys need to make a profit. If the cards worth 5 bucks you aren't gonna pay him $5 for the card you're gonna offer him like 3
That guy thinks he's gonna sell all his cards for almost %90 of wtvr he thinks they're worth...that's NEVER gonna fly anywhere...be lucky to get %60 most places... plus they gotta sell it, post it, sort it, sit on it until who knows when... they take all the risk and he just gets to walk away with the cash and none of the hassle... he got lucky it was all on camera and Geoff is a good dude...
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A guy that owed me money 20+yrs ago traded me his whole card shop for the debt and I've had a storage unit full of unopened inventory and slabs from the shop that I haven't cracked the door open in 15yrs....I remember boxes of red,white and blue fleer basketball boxes ...this guy just got 125k for this new stuff????🤯🤯🤯🤯WTH IS GOING ON WITH THIS HOBBY!!!!!!!!!
i would love to be surrounded by that many cards thats my dream
I have a Jackson Holliday Topps Chrome Green Auto /99 if you are interested!
Is the Whatnot app only on the phone. or can you use it on PC?
I don’t think I have ever seen a negotiation where the seller never said a player/card name. This guy just must have been a straight gambler ripping boxes and getting in breaks. Seemed like he knew very little about what he had. That in combination with 125k in retail pokemon baffles me.
125k in retail Pokemon. Doesn't sound like you know what your talking about either. There is only one kind of Pokemon. Thankfully. I would hate to see Pokemon become like sports cards where you have cards for the rich (hobby) and junk for the poor (retail).
@@buffalobill9793Retail pokemon is just a word used do describe the typical stuff you find in WalMarts and Targets. Sorry to offend you with the way I worded it. I have just never seen sealed booster, blister, or ETB cases in WalMart. If he brought in some cases like that I would expect the 125k valuation to add up a lot quicker.
@@buffalobill9793 they literally refered to it as "retail" in the video.
Ya that's because your slow and they cut all the out get a brain
Booster boxes would be the hobby boxes of Pokemon. Retail makes sense when referring to collection boxes etc. no worries though it’s all good! 😊
This guy “i spent 20k ripping it’s gotta be worth more” buddy expecting 100% ROI on ripping is insane
I ripped 1 box on my birthday 3 years into collecting.
Well technically he made $3000 on his ripping if he really spend 20k
@@Noname23489 that’s not the point his point was because he spent so much on ripping that it should be worth more which is just fundamentally flawed - expecting 100 ROI on what’s really gambling is crazy
@@Noname23489 and he wanted to be at $35k for cards barely worth a dollar and you can tell he was getting flustered - personally I would’ve let that man walk out the door, he’s got more of a burden trying to find another buyer lugging that back , U-Haul rental, gas, time, etc. 99% of LCS aren’t spending anywhere close to that time going through every card
Dude made out like a bandit
That’s the problem with breaking. You put more money into it than what you get back. Most of the time.
99% of the time.
It’s like being surprised and mad that you lost money playing slot machines. That’s kinda how it’s set up to work dude.
Everyone mad at the seller but a lot of ppl are just happy to make a deal with Geoff and end up leaving 2k on the table.Kudos to the guy for getting an extra 2k on the sellers end.
Seller's negotiation: 'but its a lot of cards!'. Smh
It is he's filling buddy's whole fkin store at this point he's the plug lil guy
4 real. It's about quality over quantity.
“But I spent a lot on this!” Yeah nobody cares.
You got to appreciate Geoffs transparency on the evaluation of the cards… He knew the cards were undervalued, but he also knew that by utilizing his clout on Whatnot that he could get the prices he needs to make a profit… To have that conversation filmed and put on live. You have to respect the transparency. Plus the difference in being able to communicate and talk with somebody in a negotiation goes a long way , it saved the deal!
Ya sure bub lol
CARDS hq sorry to sell your cards
What’s his explanation for having all those Pokémon boxes ? Seems so Sus
There is no way they are paying him 80% of the value of his collection! Also they will get all those idiots and morons on Whatnot to overpay for the cards they sell on there.
Yeah they going to be selling $5 cards for $20 all day and night and Geoff knows it
@@Noname23489 exactly. I've seen some of those Whatnot shows and people are so stupid. They pay 5 or 10 times what a card is worth. They could get it much cheaper on Ebay or a card show.
@@jeffsmall1856 gotta admit first time I downloaded what not I bought some lots but I definitely overplayed once I searched them up on eBay. Hobby is cooked smh
I’m an idiot and a moron I can’t wait to buy all the 💩 cards on whatnot
@@bennythamacsjourney4774 if the shoe fits!
Almost 350k subs. I joined when there was definitely under 20k subs. Times have changed
The hobby 📈📈📈
Holy shit same bruh I thought he was still at 20k 🤣 the hobby is makin waves
Guy said where’s my check
Crazy that the comments don't reflect that right? So strange! Next...on UNSOLVED MYSTERIES
Lol, this is nothing more than a what-not advertisement
you're probably right lol
😂
lol yas
So what
I love seeing these kinds of deals and the process it takes to understand how this business works. Thanks so much for this content.
a 21min infomercial for Whatnot btw
That guy was super happy with the 100k plus 2,700 in store credit for the Pokémon cards. If they made a package deal, he probably would've sold the cards and pokemon for 100k and 2,700 credit
Yeah they screwed that up. They could have made it a package deal. He took the 100K immediately
A smart guy would've put that pokemon deal off the table until the real card deal was done.
@@Hoosierdaddyjones812 I respect that he was honest though
Came down to Florida on vacation from Michigan. Brought a stack of graded down with me to visit this place. I comped my stack from cardladder at around $1200. Fat boy offered me $350. I couldn’t believe it. I laughed and turned around and left. They do have a lot of overhead though…so
It’s like trying to sell a can of coke to 711. 😂
Soo the guy with a chronic gambling (ripping wax) addiction also has 100k+ in sealed pokemon that he didn't have the itch to rip? In my professional opinion, he forsure just washed his money with the help of Shop HQ haha
Jim will want me to leave town more often🙂 Great to have SCI in my spot!!!!
Stay far away from sellers like this. Far away.
Dude robbed a card shop and sold it lol...he didn't know what he had or anything at all lol
Racist
Nobody mentioned race
@@Heathmcdonald ur an idiot heath
11:45 was he really counting based on thickness of a sealed pack of top loaders? 😂
Lmao
Thats what you call, cartel money laundering 101 lol
You sound racist
@@smashergrilla954how exactly?
The cartels not wasting no time on cards . 😂
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I love for either of you to explain the difference between playing poker at a casino or poker room and buying(collecting) cards today, as they are both Games of Chance!
First, poker is not a game of chance. Second, cards are a physical very liquid asset. Even if a $1k card drops in value I can still get some money back if I sell at a loss. If I lose a $1k poker hand, I’m out 100% of that money.
7 days a week? Give that man a day off for gods sake!
I just do not have the patience to deal with some of these "sellers". I would have told him to just go ahead and send his crusty little cards to PSA and sell them. So he can see how much hard work that takes.
"Thinking of sending stuff to PSA" to triple money yet never did it and the collection became this massive. . . its a ton of work, labor and time though
I came from jax with 170 to go home with and I had jordan auto and over 300 jordan cards and he said he didn't want to buy jordan cards crazy
I buy Jordan’s all the time, what auto card and what Jordan’s do you have?
A lot you name it I have it included psa 9 fleer 85 Jordan
When I was at The National Jeff & his team were buying heavy but at like 60%...
Damn fuck that repackers pay 87-90% I would of laughed in their faces
Great episode
What kind of negotiation is if i sent these in to psa i could 3x my money? Then send them in. Geof is taking the risk, or you would have.
yeah why would anyone buy raw cards at psa 10 price lol
He's also supplying that whole dam store and his whole dam WhatsApp bs learn how to do business
@zachsabbath1 he needs product to make money, guy has much product to fill store, guy sells much product, store sells product for profit., both make money. uhga booga smh, you understand?
He made profit hater
Oh so much. My head is spinning, need to see more box battles geoff
Interesting look into a complex deal. 👏
Is there any Ryan Finley or Will Grier in there ?
This seller is so so frustrating
i think its actually a negotiation tactic, if he act all cool and calm with whatever they're saying, it won't put pressure on geoff to up his offer, and in the end, he ultimately made them increase their offer (meaning, maybe he was cool with 20k actually but knew he can get more by being more difficult etc)
Why h nerd he's trying to get his paper
@@jinjinjincoinswhy didn’t he do that with the Pokémon then? He accepted their first offer.
@@Saladman100 ya thats true but who knows for the second
They are both scumbags
Geoff’s old-lady triceps swinging in the wind while carrying the smallest box…too funny!
😂
Weird kink, but no shaming here
Still, he is likely in better shape than 90% of the guys his age!
That sounds like torture. Hours and hours of pricing.
thats negotiation for ya. same thing happens when you get a new car and negotiating for the right price
Great content
Solid deal made here, appreciate seeing the level of detail and research put in to making it happen. Yinz guys are fair to both buyers and sellers on this one. Great video!
This was a really fun watch. Getting to see the whole buying process of a large lot was awesome! Great job!!
If I had to guess, this stuff is all stolen. Looks like a shoplifter ring...
for real
Racist
Those weren’t his cards.. he didnt know any lingual towards the hobby.. only sed number cards autos and thats it.. didnt try to pull out any cards to prove a price fact or nothing.. thats why theres only 33 comments and all about “what a great deal and good negotiating” basically influencing the comments to follow suit..? So sloppy with their acting and planning work!!
I agree. The guy had no clue what he was selling. He also had an overly optimistic view about grading. That tells a lot about him, in my opinion.
Couldn’t agree more with you guys
Acting lmao??? It’s a whatnot whale cashing out, shows how broke you are.
I’ll pay 20k for that collection, jeez!
Ever think maybe he bought the collection? U sound dumb dude. It would be impossible to fake this not to mention absolutely pointless
"i'm in love with the cocoa" kind of guy lol
This guy is basically an addict whining about how much money he spent on his addiction
Say what you will but Ryan is a gem of a hire. Guy knows his stuff and refuses to get bullied. Something did seem really off about this whole trade though.
Hes part owner
That jj redick did 361 raw last week but market movers is 90 supposedly lmaooo u guys deff robbed this guy
I loved when he said someone else out there would pay more for all of it 😂😂😂
Seller should said he gave them 30k of free pokemon inventory on the other deal
I know nothing about sports cards but it was such a great Insight look at the high-end negotiations that take place in this world. A gem of a video phenomenal 👏👏👏
You need a new negotiator. 75% was waaay to much to offer.
To your knowledge, is there an acrylic case for 2024 tops chrome box? I’ve not seen any.
Bad deal. You guys bended to him. He drove all that way and you were in full control - where else is he gonna get a better value than you at once? You also overpaid on the Pokemon by 10%. Oh well. Good luck!
You could tell they overpaid when the guy whipped out his hand in an instant...Like he was shocked.Meanwhile he counter offered on the other cards up the ying yang!
I like to sell my card collection to Cards HQ but can't make the drive up there. 🙁
Is their any app that would track infinite cards for free?
@18:40 best part of the video 23 😂
“In my professional opinion”
Lolllll this mega geek really standing up to the Cuban drug lord.
Only sports cards…
Nice bought the sports cards for 23,000 and easily gonna make over 100,000 with all those auctions not to mention getting ebay prices at his store. In my opinion you ripped that guy off 35,000 was a fair deal.
Maybe you can help.
In my second box of Bowman Chrome I pulled a Topps Chrome Aaron Judge Hidden Gems.
Any info would be great. Not much info out there about these.
Good video
Love the Luffy wanted poster
I went to CardsHQ Friday it was a dream come true!! I had a great time and got some awesome cards
Does anyone know where this store is located?
3 Things; 1. Never Do Business with these type of person ever again.
2. We need the Full Video, days, eveything about this Purchased
3. In the Future we want the Full Experience when doing these Deals...
I personally am so happy I’m not tarnishing the hobby like y’all. Does anyone just collect just for fun anymore ???!?!?
I used to think $1 were worth like $5 until I did whatnot
Hate the Cards HQ videos. Make that its own channel…..
I will see you Tuesday 😊
Your editor needs to lower the music when people are talking. Makes it difficult to understand when it's that loud. He needs to rewatch the edit and not just render it when it's done. That way he catches stuff like that.
Not gonna lie, this was a great episode!
This is called ( Collectors Fallacy ) normal joes who think they have more value that they actually have and get hung up on the quantity vs quality ,while being disconnected from reality when receiving the number of what things are actually worth.
that's what a negotiation should be. great job by both parites. enjoyed that.
Tatits 1/1 valued at $200 or the 2020 Psa9 monumental valued at $60 when it sells for over $100 raw. 🤣 gotta love you card shops
It’s a printing plate, don’t do as much as a true 1/1
seller doesnt seem to know anything about cards. he also seems to forget that a deal like this the buyer has to make money, takes all the risk and time and effort to sell the cards
Can you guys make a pick up video!!
How does the seller not mention a single name of a player.
Jeff I have so many cards, I wana go live on what not and throw them away in a dunpeter
Great day for Kyler Murray
$10 for a bichon Robertson out of five is crazy
Take drink everytime WhatNot is mentioned
Dude this guy is nuts. He doesn’t have a clue. I wouldn’t have even looked at the cards.
How do I get my hands on that JJ / From Downtown card? I live no where near ATL
They sell online
I have a collecting I'm trying to sale got some nice Braves cards aswell
Yeah I let everyone break and buy the singles I want once people try to liquidate after they didn’t get $ back
I think overall, the deal that CardsHQ offered was fair. $35,000 is just too high. It's a dog eat dog world, and they have a business to run.
Great Video. I was fully locked in during that negotiation, it felt like i was in the room with you guys !
He is trying to value the cards at the highest even if they were Graded, but they're not. Not every card is worth grading It costs money to grade and sell the cards after.
Prizm stained glass $1??
Just a base, one just sold 1.99 on 9-15
Baseball Stained Glass aren’t case hits unlike football and basketball.
@@KT-qw1ws oh ty
I’m walking away after 20 mins talking.
If they offered him 75% then that’s more than fair. If this dude ripped all these himself he spent well over $1m
This stuff including the ever popular one of ones one of tens...one of 25 Wembys supper refractors refractors etc etc etc...Such a con...will be worth 20 bucks tops in 10 years with all the new names coming up guys like this will dissapear...Their the Chris Boshes of the NBA...Chris who you say???/Exactly my point!
I love the owner but in 2 years he's gonna go from 40 employees to 3 and be close to Bankruptcy at this place.
It’s my birthday today
Hey! Happy birthday!!! 🎉
Mine was yesterday. 👍
Chasing Cardboard once bought 6 million cards
Bottom tier pokemon boxes being shown like academy, decks, holiday calendar etc... seems sus, no one buys those like that for any type of reason unless he got it at a super clearance from someone. Very strange, seems backdoored from walmart or something. Things like this, card shops should take the extra step to make sure it wasn't stolen
The problem is he thinks he can get the most out of all those cards, but not every card gets graded and gets a good grading, Some of them were not worth grading
need help im here in philippiens keep up the good work hope to buy soon frm online
That whole sentimental thing and not realizing you guys need to make a profit. If the cards worth 5 bucks you aren't gonna pay him $5 for the card you're gonna offer him like 3
$1 a card is generous for a $5 card.
The gut with Ryan he don't know what to buy
Pokemon will be worth zero soon.
Enjoy the videos, but this whatnot BS is ridiculous
The otaini prolly doubled
That guy thinks he's gonna sell all his cards for almost %90 of wtvr he thinks they're worth...that's NEVER gonna fly anywhere...be lucky to get %60 most places... plus they gotta sell it, post it, sort it, sit on it until who knows when... they take all the risk and he just gets to walk away with the cash and none of the hassle... he got lucky it was all on camera and Geoff is a good dude...
Lol foh