Too many gangster characters in Eastenders whose stories never get resolved: Jonah Tyler,Jason Cox, Aiden Macguire and Danny Hardcastle. I'm happy we get these gangster storyline but they need to stop bringing in new gangsters and resolve the current ones
1:15 No wonder Martine thought she could leave to become a superstar!!!!! Her beauty stood out, even among her fellow soap stars!!!!!! Positively breath-taking!!!!!!
The reason I'm surprised they remembered, is because in the last two years they seem to of forgot characters pasts. They have definitely forgotten about the fact Ben and Jay are supposed to be best mates and adopted brothers and the adopted son of Phil. Jay has become a pointless character. Which is a shame because they billed Ben and Jay as the next main brother duo a few years ago
@@diehard21000 Some gangsters look like choir boys but they would stick a bullet in your head with no second thought, or they would give you a good battering physically. You get a pipsqueak man aged about 30 who is skinny and looks like a choir boy but he is one of the biggest street fighters in the area, and uses his skills as a henchman.
@@diehard21000 If they are a gangster.. Yes they do. Most Gangsters on this show look like they have come straight out of bad acting school. In fact the people who wrote the scripts to the gangsters that came after Dalton have clearly never studied what a real Gangster is by these badly written parodies. The only person that did look like a Gangster and was a well written character was the guy who played Jack Dalton. That’s about it.
@@Predators--cz2fb while I agree with you about eastenders your wrong in real life there's mix bag take Daniel kinahan he's gangster and extremely connected yet he looks like school teacher, Paul ferris was a enforcer in Scotland and feared yet looked a lot like this jonah tyler slim build and not intimidating, so no you don't have to be stereotypical gangster you see in films that's complete rubbish.
@@diehard21000 You actually have a very fair point there. I didn't know who Daniel Kinahan was until I just this second looked up his image to respond to you. He looks like Donald Trump Jnr with his beard. And Ferris? I would have thought he was a math's teacher at school. You've got me on both there. I stand corrected. However, I never said they had to be movie gangsters to look intimidating. Most often they look like business men. The Krays, The Richardson's all looked like business men. So did the American Mafia. My argument was that most of the gangsters in the soap came across as "Gangsterish" but did not come off as very convincing and looked like they was straight out of acting school doing an impersonation of a Gangster. The only convincing character for me was Hywel Bennett's tense, intimidating portrayal of Jack Dalton.
@@shamim13333 it just seems so unlikely when they would just hurt phil while sitting there, and Plus Annie is George’s Daughter and she has done the dirty on loads of People. A lot of Gangsters don’t hurt babies
In many Eastenders Cases Phil wouldn’t have needed Back up for these two, like with Isaacs the loan shark and he had a big threatening guy with him and Phil said it will take more than that, so many other times he was never needing back up,
That was typical EE of the last 15 years making out Phil is unrealistically hard. Even the younger Phil was unlikely to have beaten Isaacs & that one heavy on his own, both were quite a good degree bigger than him, 2009 Phil was past his prime too. They always write dialogue to talk up Phil in a way that, even as tough as he is, is an exaggeration.
@@NoirFan84 and he beat up the bully’s dad who was like 6 foot 6 and Phil did body punches rather than grabbing him, that was the mistake he did with Dan Sullivan, so him needing back up for Jonah and that slim guy who seemed friendly and not even hard was mind blowing
@@acceptableandbornind80s32 Bit of a difference between a mouthy dad & a big career henchman though. Phil maybe could've won, that's fair to say, but that's assuming Isaacs wouldn't have got involved too which seems unrealistic he could've handled both. Didn't Phil have an injury to his hand at that time too?
@@NoirFan84 I think Phil has been the hardest in Eastenders he certainly can hurt people, and putting him with Grant that’s it people are in more trouble
Love how it's the same actor playing Jona after all theses years
Wait is that Jonah from last weeks episode threatening sam
Now he just comes off like a cut price Brick Top
This explains why grant cannot be in the same room as Jonah
@@garethjennings7192 Why can't he not be
@@shamim13333 because they’ve never shared a scene together
Too many gangster characters in Eastenders whose stories never get resolved: Jonah Tyler,Jason Cox, Aiden Macguire and Danny Hardcastle. I'm happy we get these gangster storyline but they need to stop bringing in new gangsters and resolve the current ones
0:14 This looks like revenge of the nerds!!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂. Omg that’s f king hilarious
It's crazy to think i was a 4 year old child when this happened back in 1998 i'm nearly 28 now
Same I was 4 in 1998 when this episode was aired now I'm 28 too
Same I was 4 when this episode aired in 98 am 28 now crazy
@@LARK-ht7kd Episode aired when I was almost 2. Just turned 26 now
I was 15 now I’m 40 :(
I loved it when Frank tried bashing the door open then ended up hurting his sholder
Absolutely hilarious that was, comedy gold right there. Mike Reid should have got a Bafta for that.
Lol
1:15 No wonder Martine thought she could leave to become a superstar!!!!! Her beauty stood out, even among her fellow soap stars!!!!!! Positively breath-taking!!!!!!
Such a good character she was.bet Martine regrets gettin killed of now tho
How did they get annie palmer
Den Watts the man back in the day. Very handy
Eastenders at its best
Honestly, these two guys don’t look very threatening.
Jonah did not Alfie. That's just my opinion.
@Qasim Hussain Just the way he spoke did look intimating.
@@shamim13333 did you see EastEnders last night? Jonah Tyler gets punched by Alfie Moon.
@@lukedaley17 He's old now. If it was back then he would have got knocked out like how Frank did.
Wow I didn’t even know this occurred in 1998! Damn it’s mad how eastenders can throw up surprises
The year Godzilla 1998 came out! Lol I was 8 I’m 32 now ,
Scanned with SW Calgary Hu CD we f TV hi Richard Branson Missouri area
Jonah reminds me of Ronnie kray lol
So late 90’s
Carter's 😁😁
Is this the Jonah in it today?
I was thinking that as well😂
It is
He was mentioned in recent episodes, by Ben, Sharon and Sam. Obviously Phil now does business with him. I'm surprised the writers remember this 😂
So funny they kept the same actor for a minor character
The reason I'm surprised they remembered, is because in the last two years they seem to of forgot characters pasts. They have definitely forgotten about the fact Ben and Jay are supposed to be best mates and adopted brothers and the adopted son of Phil. Jay has become a pointless character. Which is a shame because they billed Ben and Jay as the next main brother duo a few years ago
Why do they always cast the most non threatening actors to portray Gangster’s in E.E.
Not every gangster needs to look threatening
@@diehard21000 Some gangsters look like choir boys but they would stick a bullet in your head with no second thought, or they would give you a good battering physically. You get a pipsqueak man aged about 30 who is skinny and looks like a choir boy but he is one of the biggest street fighters in the area, and uses his skills as a henchman.
@@diehard21000
If they are a gangster..
Yes they do.
Most Gangsters on this show look like they have come straight out of bad acting school. In fact the people who wrote the scripts to the gangsters that came after Dalton have clearly never studied what a real Gangster is by these badly written parodies.
The only person that did look like a Gangster and was a well written character was the guy who played Jack Dalton.
That’s about it.
@@Predators--cz2fb while I agree with you about eastenders your wrong in real life there's mix bag take Daniel kinahan he's gangster and extremely connected yet he looks like school teacher, Paul ferris was a enforcer in Scotland and feared yet looked a lot like this jonah tyler slim build and not intimidating, so no you don't have to be stereotypical gangster you see in films that's complete rubbish.
@@diehard21000 You actually have a very fair point there. I didn't know who Daniel Kinahan was until I just this second looked up his image to respond to you. He looks like Donald Trump Jnr with his beard.
And Ferris? I would have thought he was a math's teacher at school.
You've got me on both there. I stand corrected.
However, I never said they had to be movie gangsters to look intimidating. Most often they look like business men. The Krays, The Richardson's all looked like business men. So did the American Mafia.
My argument was that most of the gangsters in the soap came across as "Gangsterish" but did not come off as very convincing and looked like they was straight out of acting school doing an impersonation of a Gangster. The only convincing character for me was Hywel Bennett's tense, intimidating portrayal of Jack Dalton.
2:04
If Grant had been there man those thugs would have been dead especially when they picked Courtney up !
Jonah and that guy wouldn’t have hurt a baby no way
@@acceptableandbornind80s32 Why do you think that ? These guys put Annie in hospital. If they can do that to a lady, who knows
@@shamim13333 it just seems so unlikely when they would just hurt phil while sitting there, and Plus Annie is George’s Daughter and she has done the dirty on loads of People. A lot of Gangsters don’t hurt babies
@@acceptableandbornind80s32 What was even going on here. Why were they even after George and Annie.
@@shamim13333 Was Jonah part of the Firm
In many Eastenders Cases Phil wouldn’t have needed Back up for these two, like with Isaacs the loan shark and he had a big threatening guy with him and Phil said it will take more than that, so many other times he was never needing back up,
That was typical EE of the last 15 years making out Phil is unrealistically hard. Even the younger Phil was unlikely to have beaten Isaacs & that one heavy on his own, both were quite a good degree bigger than him, 2009 Phil was past his prime too. They always write dialogue to talk up Phil in a way that, even as tough as he is, is an exaggeration.
@@NoirFan84 and he beat up the bully’s dad who was like 6 foot 6 and Phil did body punches rather than grabbing him, that was the mistake he did with Dan Sullivan, so him needing back up for Jonah and that slim guy who seemed friendly and not even hard was mind blowing
@@acceptableandbornind80s32 Bit of a difference between a mouthy dad & a big career henchman though. Phil maybe could've won, that's fair to say, but that's assuming Isaacs wouldn't have got involved too which seems unrealistic he could've handled both. Didn't Phil have an injury to his hand at that time too?
@@NoirFan84 I think that was when he hit Sean slater
@@NoirFan84 I think Phil has been the hardest in Eastenders he certainly can hurt people, and putting him with Grant that’s it people are in more trouble
That Irish lass passed on last year. 46
Yeah very sad 😭
Dan Sullivan taught Phil Mitchell a lesson. Jason Cox scared Grant Mitchell.
Cool story bro 🙄
I remember when Bill Bailey took over from Phil while he was dealing with his crack problems!
The day before I was born this happened mad
This johna bloke is he the one making trouble now .in the upto date episods
What happened afterwards?
Where was grant he was still in it then
He had gone to Cyprus for 2 months so this happened during his absence, he’d of battered these two to a pulp had he made a surprise entrance
Context?
This is Jonah who appeared in last week’s eastenders episodes with
What happened to Jonah after this scene?
he was put in cold storage until 2022 which was when the writers ran out of ideas and thawed him out.
Who was the woman at the end?
Annie Palmer