Great video. So many people are looking for THE single answer that they can follow no matter what. This is not THE way, it shows that we must change our thinking.
This subject is unbelievably fascinating and hopeful. I'm inspired, but unfortunately not in a position to do it myself apart from influencing my garden here in the UK. I try, I use manure from a local stables, don't disturb the soil . Discourage plants I don't want, which isn't many, leaving roots intact. Encourage small animals, mycorhizza, microbes, insects, tolerate slugs and snails etc etc. The neighbours prob dislike my lawn but it's the only one that has grasshoppers in summer
I'm really enjoying these vids, the channel and Allen Williams. I'm learning a lot thank you very much! That said, I'd like to point out that when experts talk about biomimcry in regards to the plains bison creating beautiful grass in the plains....Bison did not create the plains naturally and alone, free to their own devices. We have known for some time the plains indians managed the plains to some degree with fire and moving the vast herds of bison with some intent. They managed for an ideal environment to survive and make a living from it. I think it's pretty misleading to ignore the fact that the great plains were NOT natural but rather were a result of anthropogenic management. I wish we could stop pushing the ideal that nature is always perfect. It's a romantic notion that's just not true. Nature has it's place but we need to stop pretending that we as humans are ALWAYS a problem and that today we are smarter and wiser than any version of us that existed in the past. Now, to be fair, while it is making a false assertion (*)...it also reinforces his point that planned grazing is a huge part of healthy land management. We as a culture need to let go of the false paradigm that north America was a pristine, untouched Eden before European immigration...it may have been an Eden but it was due in large part to human management. We don't give the native Americans enough credit I think. They were here for thousands of years and were well aware of human impact. They were into holistic management practices before the term was created. Left to it's own devices, nature would have made north America a solid forest as evidenced by European interruption in the Indians management practices they had managed for thousands of years which is why we have more forest now than before Europeans arrived. You can do research on the subject here. I know it's wikipedia but the resources listed there are solid and it's easier for me to post a link than to list them here individually. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_in_ecosystems (*) By false assertion I mean repeating a false ideal that has been carried through for decades. I don't think there's any ill intent to mislead intentionally here.
Brent - thanks for this thoughtful comment. We totally agree - this is an important history that is often ignored in discussions about regenerative grazing. We're continuing to educate ourselves on this and are committed to more accurately representing this history in our resources!
Chris Newman of Sylvanaqua Farms has written extensively about this - it's well worth a read if you haven't come across his work: medium.com/sylvanaquafarms/yes-native-americans-fundamentally-altered-our-environments-d186f0318922
@@WallaceCenter That was an interesting read, thanks for the link. It was steeped a little much in a racial context for my taste though there's probably a bit of merit there as well. I'd imagine mostly it's just a case of history being blurred through the filter of time and blanks being filled in with poorly construed false notions. There were A LOT of native peoples in North America, it'd be naive at best to think they didn't appreciably have a thoughtful impact in their world. They were here for well over 10,000 years...maybe 15K or more before outside contact. They had plenty of time to figure out how to alter their environments to their advantage. There's no arguing that the Mound Indians voluntarily impacted their environment with a purpose, that pretty much proves any study wrong that suggests none of the natives altered their environment.
@Steve Slade There's actually a lot of evidence from oral traditions, written accounts and scientific research that Native Americans were managing bison herds across what's now the U.S. way before the introduction of the horse. There's a lot of debate about the extent of this practice, but that it was in fact happening is clear. This article discusses this in more detail: www.pnas.org/content/115/32/8143
What a jewel of a video. Incredibly dense with information.
Wow am i happy i have found this channel. This stuff is amazing
Great video. So many people are looking for THE single answer that they can follow no matter what. This is not THE way, it shows that we must change our thinking.
This subject is unbelievably fascinating and hopeful. I'm inspired, but unfortunately not in a position to do it myself apart from influencing my garden here in the UK. I try, I use manure from a local stables, don't disturb the soil . Discourage plants I don't want, which isn't many, leaving roots intact. Encourage small animals, mycorhizza, microbes, insects, tolerate slugs and snails etc etc. The neighbours prob dislike my lawn but it's the only one that has grasshoppers in summer
I'm really enjoying these vids, the channel and Allen Williams. I'm learning a lot thank you very much!
That said, I'd like to point out that when experts talk about biomimcry in regards to the plains bison creating beautiful grass in the plains....Bison did not create the plains naturally and alone, free to their own devices. We have known for some time the plains indians managed the plains to some degree with fire and moving the vast herds of bison with some intent. They managed for an ideal environment to survive and make a living from it. I think it's pretty misleading to ignore the fact that the great plains were NOT natural but rather were a result of anthropogenic management. I wish we could stop pushing the ideal that nature is always perfect. It's a romantic notion that's just not true. Nature has it's place but we need to stop pretending that we as humans are ALWAYS a problem and that today we are smarter and wiser than any version of us that existed in the past.
Now, to be fair, while it is making a false assertion (*)...it also reinforces his point that planned grazing is a huge part of healthy land management. We as a culture need to let go of the false paradigm that north America was a pristine, untouched Eden before European immigration...it may have been an Eden but it was due in large part to human management. We don't give the native Americans enough credit I think. They were here for thousands of years and were well aware of human impact. They were into holistic management practices before the term was created. Left to it's own devices, nature would have made north America a solid forest as evidenced by European interruption in the Indians management practices they had managed for thousands of years which is why we have more forest now than before Europeans arrived.
You can do research on the subject here. I know it's wikipedia but the resources listed there are solid and it's easier for me to post a link than to list them here individually.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire_in_ecosystems
(*) By false assertion I mean repeating a false ideal that has been carried through for decades. I don't think there's any ill intent to mislead intentionally here.
Brent - thanks for this thoughtful comment. We totally agree - this is an important history that is often ignored in discussions about regenerative grazing. We're continuing to educate ourselves on this and are committed to more accurately representing this history in our resources!
Chris Newman of Sylvanaqua Farms has written extensively about this - it's well worth a read if you haven't come across his work: medium.com/sylvanaquafarms/yes-native-americans-fundamentally-altered-our-environments-d186f0318922
@@WallaceCenter That was an interesting read, thanks for the link. It was steeped a little much in a racial context for my taste though there's probably a bit of merit there as well. I'd imagine mostly it's just a case of history being blurred through the filter of time and blanks being filled in with poorly construed false notions. There were A LOT of native peoples in North America, it'd be naive at best to think they didn't appreciably have a thoughtful impact in their world. They were here for well over 10,000 years...maybe 15K or more before outside contact. They had plenty of time to figure out how to alter their environments to their advantage. There's no arguing that the Mound Indians voluntarily impacted their environment with a purpose, that pretty much proves any study wrong that suggests none of the natives altered their environment.
@Steve Slade There's actually a lot of evidence from oral traditions, written accounts and scientific research that Native Americans were managing bison herds across what's now the U.S. way before the introduction of the horse. There's a lot of debate about the extent of this practice, but that it was in fact happening is clear. This article discusses this in more detail: www.pnas.org/content/115/32/8143
Do you know of anyone doing this in sw florida?
Have you considered editing this video or adding in captions? I can't see what starts out on the screen.
Yes - sorry about that! I've added a written summary of the first two slides in the video description in case they're of interest.