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ALL TOO WELL 10 (TEN) MINUTE VERSION THE SHORT FILM 
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i’ve watched miss americana
then what is not clicking ???
Doesn‘t seem like it.
@@dkyucoo y’all are so nasty goddamn
Wait I havent watched the vid yet are people attacking you😭
I truly, truly get your point. But I honestly would hate it if a privileged white woman like Taylor spoke up about OUR plights. I like that she stays in her lane. I have no doubt that she personally and in her own time supports POC and trans women, but does she really have the right to publicly be a champion for OUR rights? No, I don’t think so.
That said, I also don’t want to speak for you. I understand that your needs as an Asian American is different from mine. I’ve met people who agree with me that privileged white people should sit the hell down, but I’ve also encountered people of color who want white people to speak out. We all respond to these things differently. Maybe Taylor even has people in her life who tell her that they’re more comfortable if she sits this one out, and she’s just being respectful of that.
trin: "the angles are a little too low. it looks like someone short filmed this" - sweetie it's called a short film 😔
LMAO this made me giggle
im crying
LMFAO
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
🤣🤣🤣
i think its important to make the age gap clear and apparent. bc during their relationship taylor didnt look too young but when you put a famous former child actor who is that same age taylor was, it helps the viewer truly understand how wrong their relationship was by how uncomfortable we get watching it. thats how it was
Exactly
you worded this perfectly
yes!! was just about to check if anyone already commented on that 🙏🏻
No, she could have got a woman that looked young
@@KieshaH I mean she could, but it hits harder seing a girl that everybody knows as the child from stranger things, also, she is an adult and an actress, is not like Dylan is abusing her because there's nothing going on in real life and there are way more traumatic papers than this one, like in terror movies, but no one complains because everyone has assumed it's a movie, not real life. Also there are a lot of movies that have that age gap, but no one criticizes them... That's weird
JOHN MAYER YOU'RE NEXT 👁️
remembering the tantrum he already threw back then when people were still waaaayy more comfortable letting age gaps like that slide and the backlash he got for it honestly wasn't even remotely as bad as it should have been.. Speak Now TV is gonna be WILD lmao.
CINDY i love you 😘
edit: asians supporting asians supporting asians… incredible
omg Cindy! the gays are gonna have a field day with this interaction lmao
Omg Cindy! What are you doing here? 💜🙌🏼
Omg Cindy I’m about to watch your video after Trins
I appreciate the fact that you can immediately tell the age gap between Sadie and Dylan. It made us all uncomfortable and that’s how it must’ve felt when Taylor and Jake dated
Random fun fact: in the scene where Dylan’s character is meeting Sadie’s characters dad the guy that plays her dad is the director of stranger things (Shawn Levy) and in the birthday party scene his daughters play her friends (one of them is actually Sadie’s roommate Sophie) and Sadie’s older brother Mitchell sits on her left (our right) and they’re all swifties. I screamed the second I saw them all. I love how close Sadie is with her brother and it just shows how many Easter eggs are in this short film. Love u
omg i love thattt
wasn’t mitchell the one in a production of legally blonde the musical?
The fact I knew this haha I saw Shawn levy and SCREAMED I love his work lolol
Shawn Levy is the producer of Stranger things, not the director)))
I saw Shawn and I was like wait a minute that’s the guy who created stranger things and I looked in the credits and it wassss
While Sadie and Dylan’s age gap is uncomfortable I think Taylor’s casting choice was needed to legitimately showcase how problematic this relationship was. We have to remember that both actors are just that, *actors*, and this isn’t a short film condoning or glorifying large age gap relationships. I think Sadie and Dylan did a great job in these roles, you could feel their difference in age and maturity immediately.
I’m pretty sure, the age gap was between the actors in the movie was similar to Taylor’s and him irl. (I don’t wanna say the person this is based off of)
@@chloeslye4425 Yes exactly, Sadie and Dylan are 11 years apart and Taylor’s relationship had a 9 year age gap!
Yes I also think that it was necessary for the gp to get how disgusting it was bcs many didn’t even knew they dated let anyone are aware of the age. But people DO recall that Sadie is a child actor that came out w Stranger things and that Dylan’s top career years were on Teen Wolf and teen wolf was a long time ago, so they’ll immediately recognize the age gap.
that’s the point
@@Amy-jh6br I think a lot of people like to excuse away age gap relationships (where the gap is 6+ years and one is a teen) if the younger party looks older than they are which is a good reason to cast Sadie as she looks her age.
the “fuck the patriarchy” line in the song has nothing to do with taylor’s views on feminism. it’s more so that jake let taylor drive the car and said “fuck the patriarchy” as he was throwing her the car keys because he presented himself as a feminist, while at the same time treating taylor poorly.
i dont even know how people fail to miss this.
I’ve also noticed people thinking that she meant he said “fuck the patriarchy” but I always understood that it was what was said on the keychain itself, nodding to how he loosely had that view to seem woke maybe.
Trin got that, like Trin literally was breaking that down in the video. She just also thinks that Taylor highlighting that moment in her life but not using her considerable privelege to protect other more vulnerable women is something to critique
Trini understands the it's meant as jake views not taylor's but is also say that taylor does express the point of fuck the patriarchy unless it has something to do with herself meaning taylor
But you do realize she sold “fuck the patriarchy” keychains on her website
I think the age gap is necessary because it´s meant to make us feel uncomfortable, and we feel it more because a lot of us know Sadie as "the kid from stranger things"
Specially because back in the day lot didn't see Taylor's relationship as what it was (a really young girl and old man, and the power dinamic). Instead I saw a lot of people actually talking about their relationship as "dreamy" without realizing how wrong it was just because she didn't look that young (even though she was).
This "uncomfortable" feeling was what we didn't felt back in 2009 but didn't, showing how we failed her. Why we feel uncomfortable with Sadie but didn't feel that way with Tay? All those questions are for us as expectators to question ourselves.
exactly.
taylor said that the fight scene in the kitchen was almost completely improvised by sadie and dylan and she didnt even cut it its one long shot and i think thats cool
a thing about the angles: this is a slight low angle and it's commonly used in scenes involving power dynamics or where one character has an advantage over another. i think it's a subtle way of visually showing how Taylor put him on a metaphorical pedestal, not to mention that he's taller and older than her so she's always looking up at him in some way. sincerely, a film student/nerd.
yep!
I saw something that said the Spider-Man kiss is actually a reference to the fact that Jake’s first serious relationship was with Kristen Dunst, who played Mary Jane in the original Spider-Man movies. On top of this, the Spider-Man kiss is played with the lyric “Back before you lost the one real thing you've ever known” which some think is also a reference to Kristen Dunst.
Never thought about that. Though i think its about both then, both relationships were pretty deep. Now that i think about it i have never seen kirsten interact with him ever since, it might mean nothing but its curious .
and kirsten was a redhead on spider-man....... oh wow
jake also played the villain in spider-man: far from home..
She explains this in Miss Americana (the documentary) but as a country artist (when she was starting out), she was taught to not speak out on her politics and to just stick to music. Now that she's older, more established, and more mature, she's confident in speaking out about issues such as racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc. The problem is that when she speaks out, no one pays as much attention to her because she stayed quiet for so long. But she's a huuuuge advocate for the LGBTQ+ community and women in general. I will say tho, obviously I'm not her so idk if it's true or not, but maybe she doesn't speak out on behalf of WOC and Trans women because she feels it's not her place? That's just how I interpret it.
nah people call her a white feminist for a reason
@@maria-ie6zd missed her point. I’m a black woman but I wouldn’t feel comfortable talking about how feminism effects Native American or Hispanic or Asian woman sooo maybe she feels the same since she’s white
I agree- I think she feels it isn’t her place because she isn’t a WOC and she can’t relate
She’s criticized for not speaking about it now, but I think she would also be criticized if she did
Sometimes you just can’t win 😓
yes, everything is so difficult for her, she's never been responsible for any of her questionable actions, she's a simple victim of society and very misunderstood and actually a hero if you think about it :\
@@keiondrasimone I honestly couldn't disagree with this more. With that logic, the only people who can talk about/discuss/call out gender equality is women, and the only people who stand up against homophobia are gay people. As someone with such a big platform, it's even more important for her to communicate and educate her fans, since they listen to her. It shouldn't only be up to minorities, or women, or LGBTQ people to educate the world on prejudice.
Personally, I think the extra minute of her echoing "i was there, i was there, you remember it all too well" while recalling a few details of some memories like, "wind in my hair, down the stairs, sacred prayer" was necessary, all because I think even before Red (Taylor's Version) was ever gonna become a thing, a lot of Taylor's fans were still talking shit about Jake and talking about the scarf and how he didn't show up for her 21st birthday party, whatnot. So, the 1 minute echo was like this ever-haunting memory of that 3-month relationship for him. Of her being like, "i was there, and you *do* remember it all too well."
It's as though everywhere he goes, there's always that reminder of that infamous time with her. That's just my interpretation of it though.
Usually when I see a camera filming from below the focus, like tilting the camera upwards, I feel like the director is trying to put me into a younger person's perspective, like a child looking up at adults, might have been an on purpose thing, especially with all the context of this short film
this is an amazing interpretation! thank you :)
it has to be, especially considering her fans were young at the time, trying to put it into perspective of them at the age
low angles can also indicate power ! so it can be interpreted as a power dynamic, which makes sense given the age gap
….why would the perspective be from a child though???? lol
Okay but the suspenseful intro to this video is everything
you and ash posting red content today is a VIBE
it was NOT planned i swear
MY AMAZING QUEENS YESSS
@@LovellTrin ash was more respectful and understanding than you were lol
The angles might’ve been filmed upwards/short on purpose? To symbolize how young she was and how she “looked up to him” metaphorically bcs how dAMN old he was
i think she repeated “i was there, i remember it all too well” because of a callback to the scene where he tried to gaslight her into thinking he didn’t remember dropping her hand. she’s reminding herself that she was there, he was there, she knows he remembers it, she remembers it, and it’s not something that either of them will ever forget. especially jake cause he has her DAMN SCARF IN THAT DRAWER COLLECTING DUST AND MILDEW.
this
If she had casted a 19 yo actress who looked older, the point would've gone over a lot of people's heads.
tbh im not too in disbelief that taylor wrote fck the patriarchy in the 10 minute song because she was pretty active on tumblr during this era of her life and tumblr was my first exposure to the expression of fck the patriarchy circa 2012-2013
Isn’t that line regarding what was written on “jake’s” keychain?? like I could very much see him having something like that lol
@@rubyi2677 yes it was written on his keychain cuz around that time those keychains and t shirts were trendy
@@rubyi2677 yep. actors with VERY affluent backgrounds, who seem laidback and supportive of social issues, and are...of course 'feminists', is very Jake Gyllenhaal. I can see him owning a keychain like that. 12-13 was the peak of tumblr and I was very active then. 'fck the patriarchy' lines aren't something new, it definitely existed in tumblr and the peak era of tumblr.
I really appreciate that this commentary of a 10 minute film is as long as the full-movie (and sometimes series) commentary videos you always make :')
I really hope she also makes a short film about Dear John, I've been waiting for John Mayer's downfall for so long 😭
Who is John mayer???
She probably won't, it's a similar story.
fun fact!! they improvised the whole kitchen fight😭
I KNOW RIGHT?? CRAZYY👏
how i wish people’s reaction between sadie and dylan’s age gap should’ve been the same with when taylor & jake were dating
I mean, when it comes to her music, she does talk about women in general ("The Man" and "mad woman" immediately come to mind), but also her thing was always to draw inspiration from her personal experiences. And she's a pretty big supporter of the LGBTQ+ community.
stop defending her when she has done problematic things at the end of the day she is a privileged straight white woman.
@@okay8828 What problematic things tho? Can you give examples?
it seems kind of tone deaf bc she’s like “fuck the patriarchy!… but only bc they have called me crazy and they have portrayed me in this certain way” you know what i mean? she’s more concerned about HER privileged struggles regarding misogyny when there’s so many more important topics like education, economy, violence towards women, etc etc
For the statement about Taylor just talking about things that affect her I'm just gonna leave my pov. I don't know if she's feel comfortable doing that since that's not her lane. Like in "You need to calm down" she got a lot of backlash for being a poser even though she's always been LGBTQ+ friendly and has given to charities for years. I think she's just sticking in her lane while being vocal enough for people to know that she supports what she supports. If she wrote a song about something she can't personally relate to it can come across fake and misinformed which would do more harm than good. So I think she's doing alright. Also Taylor's been really screwed over by powerful men so I'm sure she does believe in the whole fuck the patriarchy thing.
thank youuuu someone had to say it
yes and yes
yep!!!
she’s gonna be in a movie with a director who was sa accusations she doesn’t believe in all that
People want female artists to be so outspoken about social issues, but when they do, like Halsey does for example, they flock to call her annoying and "too much". You can never satisfy the public as a woman.
I don't see people weighing whether men meet the standards of speaking out enough against general injustices regardless of how much it affects them personally 🙄
Trin! The Spider-Man kiss is likely a reference to Kirsten Dunst, who Jake dated during that era. He has said that he’s only ever fallen in love once and it was with her. Probably a little nod from present-day Taylor to the actual “one real thing he’s ever known”.
the thing is, taylor isn’t re-recording for the sake of bringing up the topic of her past relationships, it’s about her getting to own her songs which were sold off without her permission. so this is just a celebration for taylor because now she owns red.
1) Your hair looks so good!! 2) your analysis on their body language in the car + kitchen is something I didn’t even pick up!! 3) john mayer is shaking in his chelsea boots rn
idk why people think its so unbelievable she wrote "fuck the patriarchy" when she was 21. It was 2011 in the age of Tumblr. If you didn't say fuck the patriarchy before logging on, your account was automatically sent to cyber hell. Besides, she hinted the song was explicit for years now, before she was even allowed to work on any of the re-recordings, so I don't think its that crazy.
yeah people are so disbelieving that "innocent oblivious" Taylor was the type of person to write that in 2011, but she was definitely the type of person who would cut a line like that out of the song. she wrote "Nothing New" and "Lucky One" about women fading and being replaced in the industry. she drank and swore and had sex long before she started including that in her songs. her persona takes years to catch up with her actual self.
especially if that was either a keychain he had or something he said to her while tossing the keychain (it's kind of unclear) considering how specific this song is in terms of lyrics it makes sense she'd reference that directly?
Plus Fearless era Taylor was unhinged, like wouldn't she do something like that only to have her Team say "No" much like they tried to do when she was thinking about starting to express her opinions publicly in Miss Americana?
Taylor has spoken out about queer issues and for smaller, poorer creators in multiple occasions, it just doesn't get the attention other things she says do. Though I understand why you would get that impression.
lmao she’s called a white feminist for a reason the woman never brings attention to what woc going through
@@maria-ie6zd Hear me out maybe because she thinks it’s not her place to talk about those issues since she she’s a white women
but when she talks about it they hate on her anyways 🙄 she can never win
@@maria-ie6zd idk about you, but as a gay woman i don’t want straight women talking about my experiences as if they relate to it. i think it’s smart of her to not talk over poc. she obviously doesn’t feel like it’s her place, which is fine.
@@maria-ie6zd you've made the exact same comment so many times
The fact that Trin can relate to a lot of this TRIN DESERVES BETTER
Yess
She’s being really hateful lol
I really love how Trin always analyzes every important scene and shot, it makes watching her videos even more exciting and it makes me wonder if she would ever pursue a career in film because I can see from miles away that she's very talented at it.
As I listen more and more to this song it feels less like 10 minutes, it´s insane
I totally get your point - it made me uncomfortable, too, and I haven’t watched the short film since the first time I did.
However, I’m careful not to infantilize Sadie. She’s an adult who consented to doing a job. In fact, she’s the first person Taylor reached out to. If Sadie had said no, the short film apparently wouldn’t have been made at all.
i think it really fits how taylor casted dylan & sadie, because obviously she could've cast other people with a smaller age gap but that it literally the point she wanted to make. bc it is not supposed to be a romantic lovingly music video where people start to ship dylan & sadies characters, but to point out how weird it is, & also have them make out to make viewers uncomfortable really helps with that..
i do have to say that taylor does now speak out a lot about lgbtqi, gender and racial problems in our society.. like she mentioned in miss americana she was always advised (or more likely shut up) about speaking her truth and what she really believes. her talking about feminism doesnt only apply to her, just now in the short film it does, because it is about her experience in that situation a couple years ago..
also the line about the keychain & 'f*ck the patriarchy' wasnt supposed to be her talking about what feminism is but what jake at that time saw as a good comment about how he helped her and stood up for feminism.
the 'spider man' kiss was also more a hint at jake being in a relationship with kirsten dunst around the same time he was/ ended it with taylor.. & not really a hit at him playing mysterio years later..
(edit: i think someone already commented about kirsten, so yes i agree with them hahah)
stop defending her when she has done problematic things at the end of the day she is a privileged straight white woman.
“I don’t hate you on Taylor’s behalf, I hate you on a personal level”
-trin lovell
No
the intro made me feel like i was watching a sci fi documentary 😭
it’s literally a full on investigation
the age gap was indeed necessary cause even the lyrics talk explicitly about this.
i saw a thing saying that the spider-man thing is actually a nod to jake's relationship with kirsten dunst and it proves the symbolism suggests that it wasn't real for jake but taylor wasn't aware that it wasn't real
I read that somewhere too and that's also why Taylor Swift's character's hair in the short film is red
"I have to point out at the uncomfortable age difference. Sadie Sink is 19. Dylan is 30. I'm 19, and would I want to pursue Dylan O'brien as a 30 years old man? YES, I WOULD"
We hear you queen
I hear what your saying about Taylor, Trin I do but you should watch Miss Americana but you are right how she only talks about how things affect white women but also she supports the LGBTQ + community a lot. But I get that it is mostly how things affect her.
she supports the lgbtq+ community by at least being fruity
@@blondedivy 😭
Okay, but Taylor has done a lot of things to help different communities. The only reason it's not talked about as much is that she doesn't boast about it. She'll never be able to win because if she starts talking about these issues, then she's cloud chasing, but if she minds her business, then she doesn't care.
here to give my 2 cents (have been a taylor swift fan since 2009 and have been watching trin for a while too)
1. about the whole activism thing - she does do a lot of things but the media doesn't choose to cover it because it doesn't suit their narrative of taylor being this white unbothered artist. she does have a lot of privelege and she had said the same many times. im from India and honestly if she ever spoke about the women's issues over here I'd feel a bit resentful because it not from experience but based on what she's read in media. when someone hasn't experienced it, I'd rather they not talk about it.
2. the whole age difference thing between the actors - guys, they're two CONSENTING adult actors. im sure taylor would've made the space very comfortable for Sadie to object to anything she isn't comfortable with.
no hate to taylor or trin, love them both!
i highly agree !!!!
The Spider-Man kiss scene is in reference to Kirsten Dunst who was Jake’s first love and like Taylor is basically saying he is trying to relive his relationship with Kirsten when they where around 20 through this newer relationships
I think it’s important that the fans understand that one thing we learned from the 10 minute version is they dated off and on longer than 3 months, as quoted in the line “and there we are again when nobody had to know…” and no one has really pointed that out yet.
The car scene actually happened! Jake and Taylor were driving upstate and some paparazzi were following them and Jake was worried about Taylor so he called the police (hence the shouting but he actually did it inside the car with Taylor!) That must be so traumatizing :(
There are pictures because its paparazzi
about the activism topic: i feel like taylor as a straight, white woman would rather give people of color or lgbtq+ folks the chance (or platform) to speak up about these topics themselves, instead of being a voice *for* them. not that she doesn't support it, but i think she just can't speak from experience and it would be kind of wrong if she wrote a song or anything about it.
doesn’t that mean she should at least use her privilege to advocate for LGBTQ+ folks or POC?? if all white, straight people stay silent, then we won’t get anywhere in society.
but she doesnt tho? she doesnt give woc a platform to share their experiences and she doesnt amplify tehir voices
@@burnt.norton she does support by retweeting, posting, and donating. That’s honestly all she should be doing tbh. As a woc who’s apart of the lgbtq community, I’d rather not hear her hot takes on what she hasn’t experienced. And if we’re being honest, whenever she HAS shown support, people call it performative so there’s no win. She should just stick to donating all that money to these communities
@@rodsitamara she did though 💀
yeah it would be fucked if she made a song from my people's perspective. like literally wtf. I'm glad You Need to Calm Down was from the perspective of an ally, and was just an anti-hate song instead of a gay anthem
I saw someone explain the about the Spiderman kiss, so here you go: "when she says "The only real thing you've ever known" they're showing a very familiar kiss, the spiderman kiss. Jake Gyllenhaal dated Kristen Dunst who we all know played Mary Jane. There's an old interview of Jake saying that he'd only fallen in love once, he was talking about Kristen. I think young Taylor was referring to herself when she said that, but now, old Taylor looks back at it and knows it wasn't her, so maybe it could be a nod to that, or maybe I'm just overthinking it. But also, in the spiderman movies, Mary Jane is the one who initiates the kiss with first Peter, and then another love interest as if trying to have the same magic, the same spark but after it happens, she realizes it's not the same."
The activism thing. Tbh, as much as I love Taylor Swift, I wouldn't want her to write songs about the LGBTQIA+ or about POCs because she had no idea what we been through. And instead of actually fighting for our rights, the media will put it out as Taylor, a famous white singer, is speaking up for these people. Which definitely plays into white heroism. I would like it better if she supports them and give them the platform instead of being the representative of fighting for our rights. I don't if you understand what I mean 😅.
Another thing, what do you mean she does not speak of it now, did you even hear her song, The Man? Also, just because you are not speaking up for it in the past, does not mean you don't support it. I hate that mindset. Its like you are asking for people to never change their beliefs and the things they support in. Does that mean that when my parents don't like gays before but now they accept it because they had been educated, you will not believe them?? Even if they actually change and fully support it now? There are things you regret supporting before, you change so why can't other people change too? Wow.
I suggest that Trin should watch Miss Americana to further understand Taylor Swift.
Another thing, I find it weird that everyone is so disgusted by the casting when it is the point of the film. Also, don't be a hypocrite, there are so many series and movies that have a huge age gap that nobody criticize. What the heck is with that???? Double standards? Just because Taylor is highlighting how disgusting it is then it's not alright to do the casting, but if it's used in other films it's cute and quirky? Wow. Just wow. (I'm not targeting Trin, it's also for the people in the comment section that acts like Taylor is so evil for choosing Sadie and Dylan. Srsly.)
Yeah I personally find it weird that Taylor “writing about things that only affect her” is an actual criticism. As long as she isn’t being discriminatory, she doesn’t have to write about other peoples struggles (although it is nice when people show their support, that is not what I am asking from Taylor swift as an artist). Anyways that just my opinion.
mmmm smells like using swifties for views 🤔
its not abt her writing songs abt it i feel like she should use social media and what not
@@rodsitamara wtf? She literally use her social media for it. Have you ever visited her Twitter??? If she shows that she's supporting feminism, people felt like she's only performing for the public. But if she did not, then she's a hypocrite. What do you exactly want her to do? Her alone, showing her support for feminism, being against homophobia and racism is enough to influence millions of her fans to do that, too. What she's doing is enough, asking for more is too much especially when her job is to create music and not preached about what she believe in. I don't see people pressuring and criticizing other singers like Arianna Grande to actively advocate feminism. So why is it so different for Taylor Swift?
@@nyxcole she actively chooses to talk abt feminism however only talks abt white ppl. she should talk abt her experiences as a woman but give platform IN SOCIAL MEDIA to woc because SHE decided to speak on it.
she is a white feminist because she doesn’t consider intersectionality and largely ignores woc instead of amplifying their voice.
i like her but she needs to educate herself esp cos her being the “alr right icon” and not speaking up on it hurt so many poc fans. she doesn’t have to write songs abt it cos obviously she hasn’t experienced racism and sexism conjoined but she needs to use social media like i stated.
don’t speak abt things you do not understand if u are white, if you are not, i hope u get where i am coming from
His keyring said "fuck the patriarchy" honestly think it was just a visual lyric more than anything ... but im not one to know the real details ... she also revealed there was one a swear (curse) word in the song a while back so I'd like to believe it was the same lyrics from 2009
The line that breaks me is " After plaid shirt days and nights when you made me your own
Now you mail back my things and I walk home alone"
She lost her virginity to him, which for a girl that age and that point in her life was like a big deal. She thought it was going to last and she did it out of love when he never even said that he loved her. The impression that it gives is that she was just another girl to him but he was massively important to her
As a Mexican- American women. I don’t feel comfortable speaking about black women oppression when I can’t relate to being dark skin. I’m a tan Mexican but I’m not dark dark. I can’t speak for Asian, Native American women, Muslim. I stand up for them but I can’t speak for them. If yk what I mean.
Yes This!! I´m mexican and I have light skin, w green eyes. For me I feel really weird when these topics come up because i dont think i fit a category. So when I think about what I should "stand for" or "defend" im puzzled. I can't even think about what Taylor must feel, being who she is, everyone would jump in saying she thinks herself a "white savior" of some sort? idk.. i kinda get it sis... Taylor is doing what she can and not everything needs to be public.
WAIT, YOU TOO??? TRIN NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS I WOULD’VE IMAGINED THIS IM SO HAPPY 😭😭😭
the point of having a real big age gap between the actors is that it makes you uncomfortable even though you know both sadie and dylan are acting and most likely have good support for any issues they have with what they had to act, and then you realise how disgusting it is when they it’s actually in real life and how taylor must have been gaslit and manipulated
It's really really sad that almost every reaction video I've seen to that kitchen scene, everyone can relate to that and they all get flashbacks... it's sad how we've all been in a toxic relationship at some point in our lives and just tried to forget it and a scene like that just brings it all back up...
just a little correction queen she also directed her the man music video back in the lover era and that was her directing debut
This album and short film has reminded me again about how men truly ain’t shit.
Right I wish I liked vagina lol
I think somebody already said this, but there’s a theory that the scarf was supposed to symbolize her virginity that he “took” from her. That’s why at the end of their relationship he still has the scarf because he will always have it. Not that virginity is something that people can take from you, but it can feel like that sometimes.
Someone else said it was her innocence because she loved him so much just for him to take advantage of it
@@usernotfound.......1918 yes I like this better!
why she gave it to a woman in the next mv then
@@fosaire I personally think that symbolizes the fact that after her, he still in relationship with 20 year olds. Taylor in that mv wasn’t real. It’s all in his head, his fantasies because he still think about her even after the breakup. If the scarf really symbolizes her innocence. And that mv is from Jake’s pov, Taylor passing on that scarf, the innocence to another girl is because he still seek for it or something. One thing that ties Taylor and all the other girl he dated after is that innocence a 20 something years old still has.
No... I don't think so.
As a person that got out of a traumatic 6 month relationship around a year ago I relate to this being about a 3 month relationship. Like, it might not have lasted long but the healing process sometimes takes even longer than the actual relationship. I wish I was talented like her to be able to profit out of it though, all I got from my recovery process was an addiction to nicotine
Is portraying the age gap wrong or are you just uncomfortable ?
Edit: I think this comes down to a misunderstanding of why Age gaps are problematic in the first place… She said it herself, shes capable of wanting to kiss Dylan. Doesn’t mean they want to be in a relationship that would have problematic power dynamics due to different phases in life. I don’t know how Sadie is being treated like a child when she’s incredibly intelligent, professional, and most importantly of age. It’s not even like she’s freshly 18 and they’re finally getting the “ok”. They’re both actors doing their job while maintaining boundaries, they’re capable of making those decisions for themselves. The importance is whether or not Sadie or Dylan were given the SPACE and RESPECT to address those boundaries. I don’t want to say it’s infantilization but I don’t know another word for it. If we can’t even portray age gaps in media when 2 huge actors are given the room to collaborate with another artist (largely on their own in terms of what was portrayed) what the hell is that precedent for everything else…?
She‘s just uncomfortable and quite frankly should get a grip of herself
it’s not wrong, they’re both consenting adult actors and it’s not real. it’s acting. the most they did was kiss, if sadie or her parents weren’t comfortable with it, they would have stopped it. trin is just being a bit dramatic tbh.
@@Sixgirlss I also heard some kissing was improvised and their ideas so it’s like?? Can people not contribute to conveying a scene when they’re informed and consenting?
yeah actors kiss older/younger people all the time. it's acting. other movies just don't make it as obvious that there's a gap. tbh Trin is lowkey really performative sometimes. her commentary for Promising Young Women was for the most part fine, but it got iffy once or twice. in the age of the Internet (especially Twitter) everyone goes through that phase I guess.
@@Sixgirlss she’s not uncomfortable with Sadie and Dylan she’s uncomfortable with seeing it portrayed
YAAAAAAASS TRIN!!!!!!
THE VERY FIRST NIGHT STAN. SUPERIOR! (Also I really hope Taylor responds to your Teen Wolf question because we have to know!!)
Also their relationship was more than 3 months actually, from what we know it was on and off for a while…they were just publicly together for 3 months. (Lines up with what she details in WANEGBT, I Almost Do, The Moment I Knew etc…). Don’t ask me how I know this.
Also I feel like the fadeout outro works because of how heavy the rest of the song is. It especially hits at the end of a 30-track album, but that’s just my opinion haha
This! I also believe they dated way longer. They dated 3 months before their first break up. And then got back together in secret. Which make sense why she included the line and there we are again (after breaking up) when nobody had to know, you kept me like a secret but I kept you like an oath..
I disagree with your thoughts regarding how Taylor talks about feminist issues that only affect her. I don't know... I just feel like it would be a little overextending for Taylor to giverher opinion on all forms misogyny, especially if she's never experienced them. (Then we would have another Brie Larson on our hands and no one wants that, lol.) I'm glad Taylor shares her own experiences with the patriarchy with great art like this, because it could help some women feel seen and understood. Not all women, but some. I just think her personal pain when it comes to the patriarchy should be seen as just as valid as the experiences of women of color and trans women and queer women, and I really don't understand the mentality of needing to validate everyone's experiences in your art. Your art should be personal. It should reflect your own life and what you personally feel strongly about. If Taylor feels strongly about fucking the patriarchy because of her own personal experiences as a white straight cis woman who dated a man 10 years older than her, why she should then have to stand up for all women. those women can stand up for themselves. But that's just my opinion.
Trin: “he’s looking at her, look, look at him!”
also Trin: *covering half of Dylan’s body*
YESSS, I’m pumped to see your thoughts on this!!!! It’s like my worlds are colliding lmaooo
ahhh i love hearing your artistic opinions!! i feel like a lot of commentaries are more about making jokes (which i also love), but it's so interesting to hear what your thoughts about different shots are and how your likes and dislikes compare with mine!! lmao i sound like such a nerd but ig i am
the crazy part is that the keychain was actually jakes.... lmfaoooo
When she says f**** the patriarchy, she’s saying that his keychain said that, it’s not her saying it
Im actually shocked that you don't like it. It's just story telling about her personal experience in a terrible relationship and I definitely wouldn't have given it lower than an 8/10 lol. Especially all of the shots and how everything ties together.
I think the reason the shots are too low is because of how Taylor felt like a little child while in the relationship, idk though.
Yesssss I have been obsessing over this song and film from the second it came out, Taylor did the most amazing job as a director, honestly a queen
Never understood the need for celebrities to address social issues in America. They’re so far removed from any of our realities that speaking on it on our behalf or calling it out without a strong, nuanced understanding of a lived experience doesn’t really make sense to me. In no way does it encapsulate the magnitude of any of the issues they’re ~forced to address nor can it affect the change they want to on a federal level. It’s good to be educated, to think of others, to recognize and learn from other people’s truths etc., but some just seem awful quick to jump down their throat for the slightest misstep; and at the same time, so unwilling to do anything but be hostile towards them even if they’re genuinely trying to do better. Life exists outside social media, but people here seem to think that their silence on specific issues is a reflection of who they are and what they do when it’s not. The way I see it, they’re expected to speak up on ALL the issues that come through the internet and deal with the accusatory culture that comes with refusing to do just that.
I agree that not every celebrity has to speak about social issues, but if you call yourself a feminist like taylor does, then yes, you’re expected to be an intersectional feminist and be an activist for marginalized groups as well. If you’re only a feminist for white issues, then you’re just a hypocrite and people have every right to be annoyed
@@ryndesu8299 Yep, definitely agree with you. Taylor is hyper articulate on one subject and one subject only: her. If the issue doesn’t directly affect her, she struggles to see it and understand it. I can see her general ignorance and I understand asking more from her especially since her speaking out seems like her trying to further her own interests. Just strange to see people in social media perceive themselves as moral arbiters of the universe.
@@ryndesu8299 Well, I disagree on some parts... she has done her role as a woman to speak about these matters, donated to marginalized groups, talked about sexual assault, and how women are overlooked. She's called out toxic men in the music industry, and not just that have wronged her but others who have wronged younger creators. She's spoken out, fought, and tried everything in her power to make a difference. You just don't hear about it because it's clouded by others saying she's "attention-seeking" or "doing it for her own benefit." But who's to say she also doesn't speak on POC issues because she's not a POC. She's brought these issues to light on her Twitter, but she doesn't talk about it much because she has no place or right to talk about topics she's never faced. It's unfair for her to speak on things she's never experienced.
Im sorry but Trin, your editing in this video was ON POINT. There was definitely different things I've never seen before in your videos and IM OBSESSED!
I feel like the age gap, even if she didn't make it exact, needed to be present to accurately portray what the relationship was. It wasn't two grown adults who are equal in a toxic relationship, there was this overarching and ever present power imbalance. Without the age gap that point can be missed.
Literally so happy you’re doing a video on this 😭❤️
trins video quality has been skyrocketting i love you trin work those bangs girl
Omgggggg this short film was so good I am so excited to see you react to this
Talking about lack of representation and support while Swift and Blake casted the most inclusive extras for their most reagent m/v. Did not make a big deal off of it, if you want to notice it is there if you don’t then that’s on you. And just like that she’s done much more on different subjects but it’s all very quietly done, no headlines written about it bcs it’s better to write about how many exes she has, am I right?
ik i'm pretty late commenting but Trin is the first person i've seen actually address Taylor's feminism and how it could be better and i really appreciated it. Remember it's okay to hold people accountable for things and still love them!
that start omg trin you killed it, loved this video!
I STILL CANT BELIEVE TAYLOR WAS IN NEW GIRL
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS LOVE YOU
love ur reaction, quick side note miss trin is actually so right for constantly collabing with Raycon. I let myself be influenced by you and bought them like a year ago and my life was changed for the better. so thank you for your service bestie
OMG IM SO HAPPY RN!! Thank you!!
15:36 "LOOK WHERE HIS FCKING EYES ARE"
**trin covering his face**
I love how smart Taylor was with the casting cause that’s the real age cap they had
I’m so happy to see the progress Trin made in her videos editing ✨
you and cindy posting the same day
"sadie sink is 19, dylan o'brien is 30 years old, i'm 19--"
YOU'RE WHAT bestie i thought you were at least 23
this feels like a film dissertation and i love it
IM SO HAPPY YOURE DOING THIS OMGGG
i really like your analysis and just the things you pick up on that i didn’t even notice i think its rlly cool
i hate when viewers are like “ew this made me so uncomfortable” like that’s the whole point…it’s supposed to make you feel uncomfortable about their whole relationship, a newly turned adult and a man year away from 30
Yeah but actors ALWAYS play characters that aren’t their actual age so she could’ve picked someone older
@@auroragonzales2955 what difference does that make to you? sadie did a wonderful job and was obviously comfortable doing it. i don’t get why y’all are so mad about it, it’s not a real relationship between sadie and dylan. it’s acting and they’re both consenting adults.
I disagree with some of your points in this video but some people are being really nasty in the comments and it's a really bad look for swifties honestly.
Trin is allowed to state her opinions there's literally no need to be so mean about it.
I was feeling like shit today girl. THANK YOU FOR POSTING A VIDEO I LOVE YOU
TRIN YAS SLAYYY YOURE SO REAL FOR THIS
Girl what are you talking about?
Taylor most of the time just silently gives a lot of money to important charities and people that are in need of it instead of just talking about their problems which is really classy imo and she is a big advocate for LGBT community and she once directly even called out Trump on twitter during BLM protesters were going on. She is doing more than most celebratitis do.
TRIN IF UR READING THIS I LOVE YOU OMG stay strong against these comments & tweets. i personally don't see many people being OK with the age gap in terms of shipping dylan and sadie or romanticizing the age gap (though i'm sure there are a few people and that's gross and weird and awful). like many have said the age gap comes off as intentional and needed to reflect the real situation between taylor and jake to make a point. idk there was a lot of smooochinnggg and it gets uncomfortable..as it should be. the point is to say "this isn't ok" and to be uncomfortable, which u were like ?? so i completely respect and understand ur take !!
bestie i loveeee ur colour grading for ur videos recently!! ugh
HAIR TUTORIAL PLEASE OMG!! i was thinking about cutting my bangs and this look kinda convinced me:))