Review: Xencelabs Quick Keys shortcut remote
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This is a fantastic shortcut remote for digital artists.
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The tech just keeps getter better and better. If I was still in my younger creative years, I'd jump on this in a heartbeat, but at 78 and already having a very good system that I understand and know how to use, If it "ain't" broke I probably won't fix it, but this looks like a winner! I'm not sure the young folks today really know what they have to work with. But then, I go back to when we used a pen and paper lol!
YES!! i really need it ... iam supposed that there is not much of options aside from the xpen or wacom remotes
its hard to get the clip remote
so this is great !
If you are in EU , I got my Tabmate from Amazon Japan for around 65€ , and it arrived in 4 days. Pretty happy with it.
Thanks for this review! It's very thorough. Not sure if they have updated this since your review but in the My Quick Keys settings section the five modes at the bottom can be used for just one application. So in essence you'd have 40 shortcuts per application. The big plus symbol up at the top of this section adds a program. Right now you are using the other/general application mode. If you added a program like Photoshop then you could program up to 40 shortcuts for just Photoshop. If you were to add Illustrator you'd get another 40 and so on. The lone button at the bottom switches between the sets of keys per application. I bought the bundle and it is amazing. I can't believe how many options for shortcuts there are. It's ridiculous. 3 buttons on the tablet itself. It comes with two pens, one skinny and one standard. The skinny pen has two buttons and an eraser on the end. The standard has 3 buttons and a built in eraser on the end so if you flip the pen around you are automatically erasing. This can also be programmed to whatever you want. This bundle is really well done. You can tell they really had artists in mind when designing it.
Hey brother I need some assistance…I just installed the drivers for my Quick Keys (MacOS) and I’m having trouble with the configuration…the included app presets don’t work properly and the SET button just switches between the five “OTHER” default groups, not the ones created for the app presets.
Same with the dial button, pressing it will switch to the “OTHER” default dial configurations, not the app presets.
I’ve been fiddling with this thing for hours, no proper user manual or troubleshooting guide to be found…online information about this remote is pretty sparse. Gadget looks/feels great but frustration is making me consider a return/refund from Amazon.
Hope you can help!
The display that shows the name of the shortcut key is brilliant. I've used remotes in the past and you're constantly thinking "OK, this is Photoshop so KEY1 is zoom in... wait, no wait, KEY1 is brushes" and they become very frustrating.
It's useful if you have too many shortcuts to remember
Hi. Thanks for the video. Does anyone know if it will work with Huion Kamvas display tablets (24 Plus) on Win10? Seems a way better option than Huion's keypad. I've asked Xencelabs but got no response as yet.
Really hope there's something between Wacom remote and this. The biggest downside of Wacom remote to me is that the touch ring doesn't have haptic feedback and you can never know if you make enough turn or not. And there's no way on Wacom to change button set without using the setting utility. Though I'd say having 17 buttons is definitely a big plus, especially for animators (unless they already have another transport controller to use alongside). For illustrators I guess 8 is kinda enough? (Shift, ctrl, alt, space, free reform, save, screen keyboard and there's one spare button, maybe for duplicate layer if you are a vector artist.)
does it work with Galaxy Tab or iPad? or any kinds of tablet?
Need a Bluetooth model to use for clip studio on galaxy tab s8 ultra
This is really nice for portable, i like using my tourbox because each button is easier to pick without looking, here buttons seems too similar it will unglue my eyes from my canvas, not good.
V2 should replace oled with eink, much better for this use case imho
@Teoh Yi Chie Excellent and thanks for your review it seems to me an incredible product, a question you know if the control will not have problems with the compatibility of controllers in a Huion Kamva 22 Plus or in the pressure of the pencil? or will there be some way that you can work with both products.
Thank you
Nice review.
Not sure how OLED will fair over time with burn-in. I feel they should've used a inverse e-ink display.
I been looking into software to make your phone or tablet into shortcut pads with touch based jog wheels.
It's fine, my intuos 4 had it and never had a problem. 8 years of daily use.
@@slayyou Good to know!
Why don’t they make this with Bluetooth 😭
Not gonna lie, when I first found out about Xencelabs (through Brad Colbow's video) I thought they were yet another Wacom alternative. And not the kind like XP-Pen or Huion, but the more "eh" ones like Veikk or Bosto. I didn't know that they weren't trying to be a Wacom alternative but rather a Wacom competitor. I hope they release their own pen displays soon.
Me too, until I saw their prices and wonder what's going on
@@teohyc Their marketing is about being "Ex-Wacom employees" (or so I keep reading) and thus being close to a true competitor rather than a knock off.
But then you go and try to check them out and you can't find much on the internet (You can find however that they belong to the Chinese company Hanvon Ugee (so much for their "we are a global company!") which is also, the owner of XP-Pen, IMO they're just trying to rebrand to get a better position), their own page doesn't say much, and their "Meet our team" page only has marketing and administrative employees and not a single engineer or tech guy to show off so... At least for me they sound shady and I consider them another yet another knock off, just one more aggressive, the most considering their "issue" where you needed to uninstall Wacom's drivers for theirs to work properly...
Whether they manage to make a more premium-feeling product or not, that's for you pro artists and tech reviewers to decide but, whether in the end they're just another knock off or not IMO will eventually depend on whether they manage to innovate or just conveniently match Wacom's R&D. Until then, unless the difference is big or step down their pricing more, I'd rather go with a cheaper one as I have now or a proper Wacom if I ever invest that much. At least having a big community still means better chance to find a fix for any issue which is a big pro in my book, plus being (until proven otherwise IMO) the actual company doing the heavy lifting in R&D means that's the best investment in the long run, can't justify a similar price for the Xencelabs if their investment in R&D out of that price ends up probably being negligible in comparison... Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, specially true since as I've said it is hard to find information about them other than being XP-Pen's shady and expensive sibling.
@UChnHyDgcXn2svxoAMAzRwtQ Yeah I guess, I have no problem with the product itself other than the price (as I said if there's a fair chance they're just ripping their tech from Wacom it doesn't justify paying them similarly if they end up having a huge margin due to low R&D, it should be more middle-ground and not toe to toe to be fair, plus it doesn't really make Wacom any more worried since they still have the prestige and higher user base in a toe to toe competition so the impact of such "competition" for us is arguably small, IMO at least), I'm just annoyed at the company itself given their lack of information and how you end up finding up they're just another instance of Ugee if you dig a little, it just screams shady, but to give them the benefit of doubt as I said it'll depend on how they go from here in the future, if they bring new things to the table or if they're just going to put a shinier case on Wacom's products (which could always use a nicer design but I doubt Xencelabs will push them that much harder than said decent cheap options already do).
The dial can be used with Premiere Pro? Scrub timeline, expand audio and video tracks etc.
Was wondering if you're color blind? Because you called green orange.
I'm wondering the same thing. Please advise.
It's a cool gadget. I wish it used a clicky dial, like what you see on expensive stereo systems. Or did I see that wrong?
Thank you, btw, for recommending Makoto Shinkai films to me. I've been going through his filmography very slowly, but really enjoying them.
A perfect review for a product I was on the fence about picking up… and I normally scrub around in reviews but you have such an interesting voice I found myself watching all the way through 😂
@Teoh Yi Chie please can you tell me whether this works davinici resolve? I need something like this for video editing!
You completely missed the fact that you can set up different application profiles and then have 40 shortcuts per application profile, not just the 5 sets that you have mentioned!
does it work with huion tablets?
Thanks so much for this review, this was extremely helpful. I will be placing an order today.
Does it work with tablets of different companies too? Os just Xencelabs?
Good review Teoh. I was convinced that the remote could only be used with the tablet. Does this work with Mac OS as well?….
It works with MacOS
@@teohyc OK Thanks!
Hi. Like your reviews! :). Thanks. Let me ask you, so if I use Macbook Pro with a wacom tablet this will work, correct?
This looks much nicer than the XP-Pen shortcut remote!
(4:48) OLED?!?! I actually thought it was e-paper! Wow!
can never find the remote
It's in the gap between the two sofa cushion
Does anyone know of a bluetooth device that is similar to this?
idk i still prefere a razor tartarus with custom button layout :D
Why is it not for ALL peoples. Why only for artists?
Can the dial be programed to control the volume.
Can i use this with maya or houdini? not with pen only for the shortcuts?
Does it work with any graphic tablet??
With pen tablets and pen displays yes. But not with iPad, Samsung or other portable tablets.
@@teohyc THAT'S SO AWESOMEEE
hi teoh. is this compatible with xp pen pen displays?
Yes, but xppen has their own remote too
@@teohyc yes, the xpen have their own remote too but the design is more like a num pad compare to this remote by xencelabs is similar to the wacom remote were I can grip it with my hand while drawing.
@@oishi454 Oh yeah, I do have some difficulty with holding the xppen remote and trying to press the bottom most buttons. That xppen remote is probably best used rested on the table.
hi.. Screenshot Quick Key shortcut can't be add... please tell me the method to add Screenshot... 😪
WinKey Shift S
For portability I use a numeric blue tooth keypad. Works great, small, light, feels natural and it cost me $24. BTW I have the Wacom remote and I hate it.
Can you rotate with that knob?
Can you set the wheel to "alt"+ scroll?
Does it work for excel?
I should be receiving mine tomorrow. I wonder now though, can sets be set for different devices or does it only sync up to one device at a time? Thanks!!!
Not sure what you're asking
I just got this right now and my huion is having problems like no pen sensitivity while using the quick keys remote. Sigh...
Could be a Windows ink settings issue. Toggle that on or off from Xencelabs or Huion driver to troubleshoot
I want to know if this thing can be used with Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve to scrub through video?
I don’t use those two apps. But if there are keyboard shortcuts for scrubbing, then yes you can assign those to the dial/wheel
Can you program it on one PC and than use it on another PC ?, (are the programmed keys stored on the device itself ?)
I really want to know this as well!
Hey Toeh! Can you use the dial for button presses for left and right on the keyboard?
Yes
Good remote
Does this thing also work on the ipad pro 2020?
No. There's no driver for iPad
Hi, so far I have been pretty happy about the remote except for one problem: if I use the right-click function , Xencelab's programme crashes and I need to restart it. I tried remapping it to another button and using it for another programme but same problem. Does anyone have any idea of where the problem might be? I am using it with a Wacom Intuos pro S tablet with shortcuts disabled. Cheers!
Unfortunately I no longer have this to test. You should contact Xencelabs to let them know
@@teohyc Ok, thanks
Is this better than tourbox???
I've not used Tourbox so I can't say much.
Tourbox looks better for making increment changes. E.g. brush size, rotate.
Are Xencelabs Quick Keys used in Wacom cintiq 16?
Xencelabs driver should be able to work alongside Wacom
@@teohyc thank you
Probably wishful thinking, but does this remote work with ipad? Or is it just for PC?
Only on Windows and MacOS. There's no driver for iPad so you can't assign shortcuts
@@teohyc Thanks for letting me know! Dang it :( I was hoping it would be like an 8BitDo controller, where you can assign inputs to the buttons on PC and they are stored on the device itself for use on other devices unlike needing a driver. The only shortcut remote I know of for ipad only works with procreate and I struggle to remember keyboard shortcuts..
Also I was wondering the following. I´f I´d like to assign 15 shortcuts can I assign two sets for photoshop and that way have to sets of buttons assigned to one app?
You can
@@teohyc Great! Thanks so much
Thanks Teoh for showing us this control, it looks very interesting! I wanted to consult you, if in your opinion: is this control more recommended than the Tourbox Neo? or is it better to invest in the Loupedeck? My workload is more with video, photo, audio and lately, I am waiting for the update of the Huion Kamvas pro 24 to give hard to the drawing, what would you recommend? Thanks for your time Teoh!
Tourbox Neo has three dials so it's good if you need to do increment changes to settings, e.g. brush sizes, zoom, rotate. I'm not sure how Loupedeck works though. That looks expensive. Huion will launch new 24-inch pen displayS very soon.
Thank you very much Teoh, and we certainly can't wait for you to show us the new Huion updates! The truth is that you help us a lot Teoh! Have an excellent week! 😎👍
Nice review. Do you know if the knob can adjust media volume in Windows 10?
You can't
@@teohyc Bummer, thanks. Can the function buttons be programmed to type strings of text? I.e. 1 button press types out an email address
@@RSPyro You can't. You'll need a keyboard shortcut remote that can store macros.
I think you could if you can setup a short-cut key for the volume adjustment. If you search the web there are some posts about how to do that. If there is a keyboard combination of keys, they can be programmed into the unit.
Can you use the dial to rotate the canvas/layer? Please answer… thanks!
Yes! The preset modes for the dial are: 1) Zoom In 2) Rotate (canvas) 3) Brush Size 4) Layer. But you can customize these to anything. Ask me anything about this. I frigging love this bundle.
@@duvalkMAS Yeah, that is so cool! I just ordered mine and this will really speed up my drawing process ^^
@@duvalkMAS I can't wait to get my hands on it! Do you already have it?
@@ayan4697 hey there, I am also interested in using this for art, what's your impression of it so far?
Can this be used with the iPad?
No
@@teohyc thank you for the quick reply!
@@teohyc But can this work with the Huion Kamvas 22 Plus? I just ordered my quick keys remote and I've heard that it messes up the pen sensitivities of some brands of pen displays.
@@ayan4697 It should work
Other than the dial and USB C, the Wacom XpressKey still looks better (and that could do with a bluetooth mode).
Do you really need the display? Sure, at first it's useful, but you should come to know what buttons do what. Is that not what the patterns on the (possibly from the same factory as Wacom's) buttons are for?
The display is good for people who use multiple apps, and but don’t use certain apps that often to remember the shortcuts.
Pro workflows often include an unreasonable number of aplications.
Display is a must. you can configure up to 40 shortcuts per application. Apart from your most used shortcuts you won't remember them
I thing very annoying: 8 shortcuts instead of 10. Would have been cool to have one set dedicated to numbers (0 > 9), which is now impossible.
Thx for the review! :)
I just got my quick keys unit today and mainly got it for Lightroom editing. I want to be able to sit back and click a button for Exposure and then adjust with the dial, then contrast...My problem is I can't find a way to accurately set the control (say exposure) with focus so that I can use the wheel. I've been using a Behringer Midi controller til now, and it interacts directly with the controls. Its not as quite an elegant solution but so far it works better than the quick keys. Anyone have any suggestions?
Do you know what the shortcut keys are for Exposure? It might be possible to program Dial Click Sequence mode to Exposure and then program the two directions of the dial (clockwise and counterclockwise) to adjust the exposure settings. So the default first setting is zoom and when you select the zoom setting it takes you to customization. So you can choose any keystroke for the main setting. For instance Zoom is the default setting and the two dial directions are set to zoom in (ctrl +) and zoom out (ctrl -). I don't use Lightroom so I don't know what the shortcuts are for Exposure but as long as there is a shortcut you can program it. Another example is Brush (B) then Enlarge ( ] ) and Reduce ( [ ). Hope that make sense.
I'm thinking of purchasing the quick keys... just wondering if you ever figured out how to work this with lightroom? Thanks.
Only 8 shortcut keys for each app. And only for 5 apps. Not useful or practical at all. Why even create such a remote?
it can do 40 keys per app. 5 sets of 8 for each app.