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NBA doesn't want Cade averaging 30 pts per came this early in career yet on the pistons. Cause if he gets a fair whistle he goes to the line 3-6 more time a game. Cade is already almost a 90% ft shooter. With a fair whistle he is in the all star game. And pistons in the play in.
@@greenecarlos93he’s also literally mirroring the same number of Paolo who was an almost unanimous all star this year. I seriously do not get the Cade hate from people, he’s been awesome, and it’s even more impressive that he’s done so in the situation he’s been in this year & his entire career Also, everyone literally forgets to mention that it’s pretty much his second year while coming off an injury. “Groupthink” really is a crazy thing, people just aren’t watching but instead going off narrative
@@WhalesWatching Cade was suppose to be luka lite while people were saying JSJ should have been 1 and Paolo 3. Not to mention the magic are in the playoff race while the pistons are the worst team in the league
@@cameronbolden5064 you talking team success while we are talking individual players not to mention the magic have a ton of plus defenders and two big wing players that can get buckets just a better roster in my opinion
@@cameronbolden5064 no, i’m not arguing that cade should have been an all star. i was a bit misleading with that. i’m just providing context to his season, he’s been awesome. there’s no question that he’s a offensive engine. he’s been given the worst roster in the league, but he’s someone still progressing as an efficient leading guard (while also getting the worst whistle of any leading guard in the league). My point is that this video questions Cade’s validity as No.1 option, while he’s only progressed in all of the areas that we wanted him to after his rookie year. He’s been a leader on & off the court, and has dragged this putrid team to their wins. I’m not comparing the two teams and their success, but there’s no way Paolo & Cade can be putting up the exact same numbers with one being a No.1 option/all-star while the other is a disappointment. It’s all about context. If you watch the film & pay attention to how Cade has progressed in so many areas rather than narrative, it’s clear that Cade is a number one option
Anthony Edwards first 124 games: 21/5/3 on 43/34/78 splits Cade’s first 124 games: 20/6/5 on 43/33/85 splits So I’m assuming you think Ant also doesn’t have superstar potential?
Cade has been on a heater recently, but it feels more like he's finding his game and not just a hot streak; I kinda wish that you waited until this season's end to make this video
I understand why cause if he got calls he would be averaging 8+ free throws a night . It would put cade in top 7 in ppg in NBA. The NBA is not ready for cade,and the pistons to be great again.
Put him on any other team in the nba and he’s one of the most sought after players in the league the lack of basketball knowledge by people like terranova are the only issue with him… nba 2k has ruined the basketball community fr
When guys like KD, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Demar, Steph, AD, Harden, Kyrie, and even Richard Jefferson are saying Cades good then frankly it doesn't matter what any ill informed fan says. His colleagues know what's up Another great vid Nova
He has a roster, all the vets and most the scrubs gone now. Now cade and the youngins can play. Duren, Asuar, Stew, Ivey Cade, Sasser, Grimes, and Simone. Everyone else will be gone next year except Wiseman unfortunately.
@@24kminds yea now most of the scrubs are gone but monty still plays someone like wiseman 15-20 min a game.. but with this roster now i think cade is gonna blossom
Im a raptors fan and im still a huge believer in Cade. Hes still arguably the best player from the 2021 draft but he just needs a better team to showcase his stardom more.
Last year he had several plays where he got the block rebound and assist in the same play. 1 was against the Warriors and another I think was against the Hawks
Imagine bringing up cades ability to finish at the rim and never bring the lack of spacing early in the year that allowed opponents whole team to collapse into the paint for free
exactly! context is everything. my question to anyone who makes videos like this questioning Cade is this: what other prospect in Cade’s class, or any other class, would be succeeding on this Pistons team??? The answer: none
22/7/4 on solid shooting has been really good for a guy that hasn't even played two seasons worth of games in the NBA yet and has by far the worst supporting cast of any top pick in the past decade. He's 5th in the number of drives per game, 10th in the number of points on those drives, and has a pass % above 35% on those drives. So there's a lot more to his game than the mid-range and three point shots. He's also 9th in assists this year with a rapidly improving assist::turnover ratio. He's showing he's the best player from his draft class. And right in-line with the development curve that Devin Booker had.
Cade is definitely better than Harden. Who is playing better than Cade from his draft class? I don't see anyone. Cade's only real weakness is the turn-overs. He actually can correct that. I see him improve his 3-ball faster than I've ever seen someone improve their shot. Cade's release is higher and his form is more fluid. Maybe, his defense could be better, but I've seen him get some great blocks.
Cade might be better than Harden at this point in Harden's career, but that's not to say he's better than peak Harden obviously. As for Franz, Scottie, Evan, and Cade, I think Cade is the easy choice over those guys as only Franz can come close to the ability to create for himself and others. Cade is the better shooter of any of them. Scottie and Evan are obviously much better defensively and I think they would be amazing 2nd guys on a team, but don't have the potential to lead a team like Cade and maybe Franz could.
@@michaeltomak152 Franz is already a second option and Scottie scores just as good as Cade, maybe slightly worse, is a slightly worse playmaker, a much better defender and a better rebounder, id take Scottie over both
If Cade got somebody like Reed Shephard playing next to him, he would go next level. Having other shooters will give him more space. The problem with Ivey is that he collapses the spacing offensively because he's such an amazing threat to drive. He also doesn't play much defense. Reed fixes both of those problems. He's a lights out shooter and plays good defense. Ivey would be an awesome 6th man.
Cade is the best player in The 2021 draft and the only ones that are close are sengun,scottie and Mobley but look at the team they have scottie had pascal,og around him Mobley has dmitch,garland,jarret and sengun now has fred and brooks and who does Cade have besides Ivey and duren who are in year 2 and don’t forget he has to play with wiseman and killian and bagley 3 known busts Cade will get his flowers soon if the gm builds around him
Luka and Shai are both play very slowly and do not use their athletisism whatsoever. And yet they're the two best guards in the league by a mile. How is lack of burst a knock on Cade when it's proved the best of the superstars also lack it? And his rim efficiency will come. Anyone who watches pistons games can see the lack of spacing, and the fact he gets NO FOUL CALLS. That's not an issue
His jersey will hang soon on the Pistons homecourt rafters. "Cunningham wears the number 2. in honor of chuck Daly, who managed the bad boy Detroit pistons. the jersey had been retired by the pistons, however, Cunningham asked daley's family to un retire the jersey. as Cunningham wants to restore what Daly built."
His first 14 games coming off a broken shin he was bad😳. Since then 23/8/4 on 48/39/86 splits in the worst situation itl shows no signs of a future superstar 😂
Not Cade's fault still believe he's a stud. Got a delusional coach, delusional owner and gm. This is their fault team is bad. He's a beast. Still believe he is gonna be star believe in him. Needs to do it on another team.
@@TheGallant9 arn tellem horrible if cade gets some fair calls he'll be averaging 27 ppg right now. Cade can easily average 28 pt 9 as 7 reb next year with pistons making playoffs.
How good can Cade be?
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His efficiency around the rim is also a direct result of his unfair whistle. Cade gets zero respect from officials.
NBA doesn't want Cade averaging 30 pts per came this early in career yet on the pistons. Cause if he gets a fair whistle he goes to the line 3-6 more time a game. Cade is already almost a 90% ft shooter. With a fair whistle he is in the all star game. And pistons in the play in.
100%!!
Cade’s shooting 45/36/85 splits this year which is about normal for a lot of really good offensive players
Cade since Christmas been shooting 49/43/81
@@greenecarlos93he’s also literally mirroring the same number of Paolo who was an almost unanimous all star this year. I seriously do not get the Cade hate from people, he’s been awesome, and it’s even more impressive that he’s done so in the situation he’s been in this year & his entire career
Also, everyone literally forgets to mention that it’s pretty much his second year while coming off an injury. “Groupthink” really is a crazy thing, people just aren’t watching but instead going off narrative
@@WhalesWatching Cade was suppose to be luka lite while people were saying JSJ should have been 1 and Paolo 3. Not to mention the magic are in the playoff race while the pistons are the worst team in the league
@@cameronbolden5064 you talking team success while we are talking individual players not to mention the magic have a ton of plus defenders and two big wing players that can get buckets just a better roster in my opinion
@@cameronbolden5064 no, i’m not arguing that cade should have been an all star. i was a bit misleading with that. i’m just providing context to his season, he’s been awesome. there’s no question that he’s a offensive engine. he’s been given the worst roster in the league, but he’s someone still progressing as an efficient leading guard (while also getting the worst whistle of any leading guard in the league).
My point is that this video questions Cade’s validity as No.1 option, while he’s only progressed in all of the areas that we wanted him to after his rookie year. He’s been a leader on & off the court, and has dragged this putrid team to their wins. I’m not comparing the two teams and their success, but there’s no way Paolo & Cade can be putting up the exact same numbers with one being a No.1 option/all-star while the other is a disappointment. It’s all about context. If you watch the film & pay attention to how Cade has progressed in so many areas rather than narrative, it’s clear that Cade is a number one option
Anthony Edwards first 124 games: 21/5/3 on 43/34/78 splits
Cade’s first 124 games: 20/6/5 on 43/33/85 splits
So I’m assuming you think Ant also doesn’t have superstar potential?
😂😂😂😂 exactly RUclipsrs been saying the same things for 2 years without actually watching games or seeing if this man has improved
😂😂😂😂 exactly RUclipsrs been saying the same things for 2 years without actually watching games or seeing if this man has improved
Facts! I would like for him to answer this question 🤣
Oh wow, thanks for this! I did not realize the similarities, but this is a great stat pull! Good shit
Ant plays Both ends and is a impact player cade just don’t impact the game he get his numbers but it don’t impact the game
Cade has been on a heater recently, but it feels more like he's finding his game and not just a hot streak; I kinda wish that you waited until this season's end to make this video
Cade continues to have the absolute worst whistle in the league. I don’t understand how he doesn’t get calls
Because he plays for the Pistons and the league hates the Pistons.
I understand why cause if he got calls he would be averaging 8+ free throws a night . It would put cade in top 7 in ppg in NBA. The NBA is not ready for cade,and the pistons to be great again.
Put him on any other team in the nba and he’s one of the most sought after players in the league the lack of basketball knowledge by people like terranova are the only issue with him… nba 2k has ruined the basketball community fr
@@04billups90 this what happens when casuals talk basketball. You should hear bro talk about Josh Giddey 😂
Cuz No one care about the bottom team
When guys like KD, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Demar, Steph, AD, Harden, Kyrie, and even Richard Jefferson are saying Cades good then frankly it doesn't matter what any ill informed fan says. His colleagues know what's up
Another great vid Nova
this is a dumb video.. he is clearly a franchise player, he just needs a roster of real nba guys around him
He has a roster, all the vets and most the scrubs gone now. Now cade and the youngins can play. Duren, Asuar, Stew, Ivey Cade, Sasser, Grimes, and Simone. Everyone else will be gone next year except Wiseman unfortunately.
@@24kminds yea now most of the scrubs are gone but monty still plays someone like wiseman 15-20 min a game.. but with this roster now i think cade is gonna blossom
@@y.j0hnnyboi112 What's wrong with Monty playing James Wiseman. He will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season.
Im a raptors fan and im still a huge believer in Cade. Hes still arguably the best player from the 2021 draft but he just needs a better team to showcase his stardom more.
🎯 he's on the right team. And whoever would argue that will take it back later.
Dude has Duran Ivey Ausar Stew, They had boogie Harris and burks and other guys they have talent
He is the best player from that class it’s not arguable
@@TacoVellyour retarded
Mfs don’t watch Detroit pistons play . Smh
If you think Cade isn’t superstar material, you’re not someone with reliable basketball iQ
give Cade the MAX contract
Yall fail to talk about his defense
Last year he had several plays where he got the block rebound and assist in the same play. 1 was against the Warriors and another I think was against the Hawks
Imagine bringing up cades ability to finish at the rim and never bring the lack of spacing early in the year that allowed opponents whole team to collapse into the paint for free
exactly! context is everything. my question to anyone who makes videos like this questioning Cade is this: what other prospect in Cade’s class, or any other class, would be succeeding on this Pistons team???
The answer: none
22/7/4 on solid shooting has been really good for a guy that hasn't even played two seasons worth of games in the NBA yet and has by far the worst supporting cast of any top pick in the past decade. He's 5th in the number of drives per game, 10th in the number of points on those drives, and has a pass % above 35% on those drives. So there's a lot more to his game than the mid-range and three point shots. He's also 9th in assists this year with a rapidly improving assist::turnover ratio. He's showing he's the best player from his draft class. And right in-line with the development curve that Devin Booker had.
Cade is definitely better than Harden. Who is playing better than Cade from his draft class? I don't see anyone. Cade's only real weakness is the turn-overs. He actually can correct that. I see him improve his 3-ball faster than I've ever seen someone improve their shot. Cade's release is higher and his form is more fluid. Maybe, his defense could be better, but I've seen him get some great blocks.
Cade is not better than Harden lol, and currently I would take Scottie and Franz without a doubt over him and possibly Mobley too
Cade might be better than Harden at this point in Harden's career, but that's not to say he's better than peak Harden obviously. As for Franz, Scottie, Evan, and Cade, I think Cade is the easy choice over those guys as only Franz can come close to the ability to create for himself and others. Cade is the better shooter of any of them. Scottie and Evan are obviously much better defensively and I think they would be amazing 2nd guys on a team, but don't have the potential to lead a team like Cade and maybe Franz could.
@@michaeltomak152 were u insinuating that Scottie can’t create for himself or others???
@@michaeltomak152 Franz is already a second option and Scottie scores just as good as Cade, maybe slightly worse, is a slightly worse playmaker, a much better defender and a better rebounder, id take Scottie over both
@@sir.muffiniii7011 I'm insinuating that Scottie isn't as good of a self-creator or creator for others, not that he can't at all.
Strange time to post this video when he’s been playing superstar level the last couple weeks, with literally no whistle
If Cade got somebody like Reed Shephard playing next to him, he would go next level. Having other shooters will give him more space. The problem with Ivey is that he collapses the spacing offensively because he's such an amazing threat to drive. He also doesn't play much defense. Reed fixes both of those problems. He's a lights out shooter and plays good defense. Ivey would be an awesome 6th man.
Cade is the best player in The 2021 draft and the only ones that are close are sengun,scottie and Mobley but look at the team they have scottie had pascal,og around him Mobley has dmitch,garland,jarret and sengun now has fred and brooks and who does Cade have besides Ivey and duren who are in year 2 and don’t forget he has to play with wiseman and killian and bagley 3 known busts Cade will get his flowers soon if the gm builds around him
Luka and Shai are both play very slowly and do not use their athletisism whatsoever. And yet they're the two best guards in the league by a mile. How is lack of burst a knock on Cade when it's proved the best of the superstars also lack it?
And his rim efficiency will come. Anyone who watches pistons games can see the lack of spacing, and the fact he gets NO FOUL CALLS. That's not an issue
Wym Shai doesn’t use athleticism? Shai’s always blowing by people
at the very least a second option on a winning team imo. he’s been playing great the second half of the season
Cade will be a superstar
His jersey will hang soon on the Pistons homecourt rafters.
"Cunningham wears the number 2. in honor of chuck Daly, who managed the bad boy Detroit pistons. the jersey had been retired by the pistons, however, Cunningham asked daley's family to un retire the jersey. as Cunningham wants to restore what Daly built."
Really it's 2 nba seasons since he got hurt early in his 2nd season
His first 14 games coming off a broken shin he was bad😳. Since then 23/8/4 on 48/39/86 splits in the worst situation itl shows no signs of a future superstar 😂
wonder if the city of detroit just kills players drive and heart.
Cade is THAT GUY but look at his team
Not Cade's fault still believe he's a stud. Got a delusional coach, delusional owner and gm. This is their fault team is bad. He's a beast. Still believe he is gonna be star believe in him. Needs to do it on another team.
how the hell did he get drafted frist
I don’t see him being that guy he just don’t have it in him
He already better than booker was at the same age
@@ry_an. booker trash
I think he should be go to spurs
When Cade gets traded to the spurs or magic for a 2nd round pick>>>>
No thank you
Why would the pistons fire troy weaver?
Folks be mad at Troy for Casey short comings as a coach. The owner was the Issue along with Arn Tellem forcing Troy to hire his son's clients
@@TheGallant9 🎯
@@TheGallant9 arn tellem horrible if cade gets some fair calls he'll be averaging 27 ppg right now. Cade can easily average 28 pt 9 as 7 reb next year with pistons making playoffs.
He’s ok at drafting, but he’s terrible at trades and overall roster construction
@@obi3924 weaver good at both.