Charles and Camila's Private Dinner | The Crown (Josh O'Connor, Tobias Menzies)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Charles (Josh O'Connor) invites Camila (Emerald Fennell) to the palace to have a private dinner and talks about some deep feelings disguised as a prank.
From Season 3, Episode 8: Dangling Man
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The casting was so kind to the characters of Charles and Camilla that I accidentally rooted for their relationship.
Why accidentally? You can root for them.
Hey, good morning!
"Why was Queen Victoria like the weather in Britain? Because she reigned and reigned and reigned and reigned and never let the sun come out." A joke our great grandparents told.
“Until she dies, I cannot truly be alive” … Jesus (and by the look on her face, she was equally as shocked for a second)
"fully" I'm guessing😅😅 not that important, not attacking at all..
I mean, that is the unspoken truth for anyone in a hereditary position...you get nothing until the current title holder passes away, whether it's royalty or the aristocracy. Unless they abdicate, which you do see in other European royal families, but not in this one, usually.
This is fiction, not the truth.
@@gnas3390 Didn't Charles say a similar thing to Charles Spencer when John Spencer died?
@@stevebbuk9557
Both Charles and Charles Edward Spencer
felt the same way about their parent who
held the title.
Unfortunately, Charles E. Spencer has
followed in his father's (and grandfather's)
footsteps regarding his treatment of his
3 wives (He is now being divorced from
wife #3)
I still find these two revolting. By the way they behaved. I know they must be very happy together now. But it was at someone else's expense.
How about the two people whose actions were at someone else’s expense being the parents of Diana who divorced when she was eight. Didn’t that divorce of her parents shape her destiny more than the divorce from her husband?
@@Johngeorgesmith what does the divorce of her parents have to do with the fact that her husband cheated on her? There are many, many, mny people who come from a family were parents weren't together and why still were and are very happily married.
@@normadesmond6017 Diana’s parents divorced when she was very young and vulnerable. I believe she was also a very sensitive child and their divorce which was not pleasant btw scarred her psyche for her life. It left an empty hole in her and a tremendous and unfortunate neediness for love and attention which really no one person could fill completely nor the attention and admiration of the world. You see, when parents divorce and their child is young and perhaps more sensitive than the average child, those parents are taking the chance of making their child a broken empty person for life because the divorce destroys the child’s sense of stability. Many intelligent and compassionate parents know so they will postpone an inevitable divorce until their children are at least 18 and off to college or work and have developed a more stable psyche. Diana’s parents set the course for her turbulent and troubled life. Charles for sure had his own childhood issues and that made them both a horrible match. Two people with deep insecurities looking to the other insecure partner to support them. Unfortunately the wounds of Diana’s parents divorce at young age made her the more broken of the two. Camilla, who came from a more stable, non-divorced family, and who is a stronger person mentally and psychologically was the right match to prop up insecure Charles. He needed Camilla to get through the pressure cooker life he was born into. Diana and Charles were two drowning souls of little or no use to one another. Charles, the stronger of the two, found his life raft in Camilla and ultimately he had a strong instinct to survive. Unfortunately Diana never found that life raft she was always looking for since her parents set her up for a troubled life when they divorced when she was too young to handle it. Does that make sense?
@@normadesmond6017 Also, is it not true that all children of divorce become broken people in some way and to some degree? No child wants to be a child of divorce.
@@JohngeorgesmithThat is wholly separate from the subject they are talking about. It doesn't negate what Charles and Camilla did at all and it is ironic how you focus on Diana and her parents being divorced but not about her sons being impacted by the divorce.
The actress playing Camila is so wonderful that she makes Charles look like a lost child doing what Dickie told him to do, “sow his wild oats!”
That’s Emerald Fennell. She comes from an aristocratic family and is also a movie director. She directed “Saltburn”.
Emerald Fennell
He did have a choice. He knew the rules and the ramifications. He chose to be a deadbeat loser and marry Diana and carry on with Camilla. Both were despicable when your actions and side games are at the expense of another person. He asked for her hand in marriage. Had he no intentions of leaving the Camilla bs behind, he should have never married. Can't have your muffin and eat it too.
He's probably never had that much fun ever before. And for a long time after this date.
Lives a very priviliged life, still unhappy
A beautiful prison is still a prison.
That's Depression for you, bud. Can't buy your way out of it.
@@teddykgb3865
Too bad HMTQ didn't
arrange for Andrew
Parker-Bowles (career
military) and his Mrs.
to be transferred
abroad for a couple
of years.
There is no way that
they could have kept
that house in
Gloucester if he was
not stationed in UK.
(Gloucester is in
western England,
not too far from
Wales.
Camilla's family is from
"Camilla was raised in East
Sussex and South Kensington
in England, UK"
Andrew Parker-Bowles was
born in Surrey and was raised
in Berkshire. Both in SE England.
Charles longed for the very thing he was never prepared to take on.
He should have tried to make things work with Harry and Meghan.
@@tiffanyferguson829he was jealous of them eclipsing him exactly like he was jealous of Diana. Very insecure and needy man. Not great traits for a king! 😒
@@tiffanyferguson829harry married trash
Charles did not want, nor was he encouraged to take on the responsibility of marriage and children at a younger age. He
was very happy to be a playboy prince and to have multiple affairs, many with other men's wives. It appears that he was
taking advice from both uncle Dickie and the Duke of Windsor.
@@tiffanyferguson829
Charles wasn't the problem
with Harry and Meghan.
Harry's jealousy of his
brother and Meghan's
refusal to bend to royal
rules and to respect
HMTQ was the problem.
[Meghan had the mistaken
notion that her behavior
would change a 1,000 year
institution]
Neither William or Harry
were thrilled when their
father married Camilla.
But William realized that
if Camilla made Charles
happy it was better for
his father to not be alone.
In all fairness, Camilla has
been very nice to Catherine
and she has tried to be a
good grandmother to George,
Charlotte and Louis.
For his part, Charles has tried
to get on with Camilla's
children and welcomed her
grandchildren too.
William and Catherine do not
hang out with Camilla's
children/grandchildren but
they are on friendly terms
which makes the holidays
and vacations pleasant.
God forever moaning 🙄🙄😂😂😂
no it was a set up for the trick card
Its bad enough him being King now.. . but for her to be Queen!!!! Utterly disgusting!!
Charles seems to be perfectly miserable.
He was. So was Diana
A bunch of crybabies. Anyone else in their position would be galloping about on their twenty gorgeous horses having the time of their lives.
Camilla is the mother, he never had, and a lover in one
Just like Wallis .
Charles is a child. Diana dared to outshine him. Charles was jealous of her. It was easy for him to love Camilla because with her, he could be the star. So loving Camilla was a huge insult to her.
Diana just shone. It came naturally,
She spread her legs for a married man and he went in. Now we're supposed to be impressed with the love they have for each other?
🤢
Wasn't he single when they first hooked up?
He wasn't married when they began dating, Diana came after her
@@xashes6552 Yeah, Diana was the real sidepiece, not Camilla.
Charles was pressured into marrying, his bed hopping was making him a liability.
I literally have no idea what was so amusing about the conversation or the confetti in the face was-even after watching this scene 5 times trying to figure it out. Not my sense of humor I guess. I guess speaking frankly is considered shocking by some people’s standards 🤷🏻♂️ 🤷🏻♂️ 🤷🏻♂️ and that confetti is funny.
I think it was a way of showing us how Camilla "gets" Charles in ways Diana never could.
@@AndyBluebear-fi9om I can see that. Yes. Personally, I don’t like Charles and I truly LOATHE Camilla. She’s frumpy and plain and just not Diana-but to each his own. He wanted Miss Camilla and he got her. But calling Camilla a queen just makes me ill quite frankly. To me there’s nothing graceful or royal about her.
Charles the cheater and Camilla the home-wrecker King & Queen of Adultery
He was always a jerk
Fuckin weird vibes
He doesn’t deserve to be king. I can’t wait to see William become King. He is definitely fit for the role.
William is a scumbag too. Cheating on Cathrine.
What is so funny in these pieces of paper burst to her face? Why is she laughing so hard? I did not catch the joke...
That’s cos it’s funny only to him.
Charles just sounds like he is whining, annoying.
less straightforwardly and singularly than you do. Buck up. Look more deeply, express yourself more precisely.
Always did ,you can see where Harry got his whining from
He’s a top 5 most disliked characters for me and all the others were rapist murdering psychos but he still makes the list
That says way more about you than him. Sorry but how can you include that man on the same list as murdering psychos? Over 40% of married couples divorce - are they also all to be condemned?
@@lucindaarmour4685 In my opinion, if we had laws to punish cheaters, they would be less of them. How is it complicated to broke up with someone if you want to sleep with someone else? Cheating shouldn't be so frequent.
@@bulbasaurtheboss4420 There are countries that have laws for cheaters. The same countries that strip women of their rights. Women accused of adultery (that would include Diana) are incarcerated and executed. Be very careful what you wish for. In liberated nations we understand that human will is free. As it should be. People should stay in a relationship through choice, not law.
@@lucindaarmour7422 I didn't say people should be executed, and as justice is supposed to be, you should have to give some proofs in that case. And it shouldn't apply only for women obviously. Law punish those who commited murders but they're not executed in my country, death penalty is not possible anymore here for years, so it didn't cross my mind. So you don't have to dramatize everything, we can obviously have laws without that bad things resulting.
@@bulbasaurtheboss4420 Totally agree but its a very slippery slope. What restrictions would you like on peoples private lives and autonomy? What exactly would they be fined for? What acts, what intentions, what relationships? We are all impacted by infedelity but creating law around free will between consenting adults is a deeply dangerous road to treat. And is no deterent. You will remember the decades whites and blacks were not allowed to be in relationships in South Africa during the appartied era. It didnt work. Love is love. Attraction is attraction. Prison time did not deter them.
Camilla has always got what she wants.Poor Diana 😢
Charles is emotionally immature. His mother was never there for him.
I'm glad he found happiness with Camilla at last. Charles is a good man. He was pressured into marrying Diana when all the while he loved Camilla and was always faithful to her. Till the end, when his dreams came true.
I'm sure he will make a very good king.
A good man? He betrayed his wife and children time and time again. He was jealous and small. A worm of a man.
Let us not forget; well never know if these scene's are unfairly overdone or actually way less worse than what actually happened
Am I the only one wondering what was actually inside that envelope?
oh poor baby.....whiner...🙄
Wish they’d used “A Girl Like You” by Edwyn Collins in this scene instead of Beggin’ You!!
Ironic how when he finally was made King few time passed until having cancer and having to rest and not reign, I cant help but think that Karma is very real.
I wanna know the name of that song
Måneskin - Beggin'
2:45 who not whom jfc
No respect for King Charles, and I understand he has been through things.
He tells her the author was an American man and she asks if he was a prince. Airhead
BORING!!!!!!!!
Can’t be Free and Imprisoned at the same time. Judging by how much he complains I’d say he’s imprisoned 😆
That’s why he didn’t want Harry and Meghan to leave because he was jealous he couldn’t do the same.
Some cheap acting
I say God bless him. God bless them both.
God bless him, sad that his position makes him easy prey to female schemers like that adultress
@@MegaJohny56takes two to tango…
@@AgentClaytonWebb this is true
@@MegaJohny56 She is the love of his life, regardless.
@@MegaJohny56How was she the schemer if he kept repeatedly reaching out to her? She was the only woman who could make him happy so he kept seeking her out and she gave in, perhaps out of pity for him, not wanting him to be totally miserable without her which in all likelihood he would be if she rejected him.
Dickie Mountbatten's advice ("Let Charles sow his
wild oats") has, obviously, backfired!
Forcing Diana to maintain a full working royal schedule
while her children were young also backfired.
*If Charles had married a young woman, when he was young:*
1.) He would not have been such an old fogey. By the
time he got married all of his social group had been
married for years and had their families.
2.) The baby making would have been over by the time
he was in his early 30's (the age he married Diana) or
perhaps by age 36- 39.
Royals are not poor. Royals can afford nannies as well
as have children that are fairly close together since the
wife does not have to work outside of the home (for
the basics of life)
3.) Ten years before he married Diana, HMTQ and
Prince Philip were also 10 years younger.
A younger Charles, married to a younger woman
could have taken more time off his royal duties to
be with his wife and children. And/or stayed close
to home and let his parents take the foreign trips.
4.) There was no reason to force Diana to have a full schedule when the boys were young. By the time both
of them were in boarding school that would have been
the time for her to jump into many royal appearances.
I think the real point is Charles should never have been forced into marrying Diana in the 1st place based on such ridiculous requirements. He was never allowed to marry as he wanted b/c of his role. Remember there was a huge age gap between the 2 of them as well. His family wanted it. Her family wanted it. She never really understood it was not a love match.
@@lizetteolsen3218
EXACTLY!
>"She [Diana] never really understood
it was not a love match"<
*That (above) is the root of the problem!*
1.) *She was young and naive.*
She was young, had a lot of silly
notions about romance (her step-
grandmother's novels were her
her first choice of reading material)
2.) *Lack of parental guidance*
She came from a very dysfunctional
home. All of the siblings detested
their step-mother. The two older
girls were already at boarding school;
that left Diana and Charles Edward
at home to deal with her. Both were
packed off to boarding school at a
very young age -- asap to get them
out of the house (look what happened
to her brother!)
3.) Charles and Diana barely knew each
other (12 dates?) when they got
married.
Everybody can hate Camilla but it is not Camilla's fault they fell in love Charles never hided his feelings for her you know what you want to know someone to blame blame the one who ruled the crown it's true between them 2 that laugh..the way she ran up the stairs he really loved her
Huh? Word salad makes no sense
Pure Viktor Frankle.
HRH had a sophomoric sense of humor and probably still does. Charles loves Camilla because With her he can be himself, not just the prince of Wales. Diana and Charles’s marriage was doomed because Diana was searching for a daddy figure to fawn over her but Charles needed a nurturing mummy substitute. He found her in Camilla who is his safe harbor. She knows how to manage his moods and jolly him out of himself. One wonders if she still has to call him Sir in private. If she does, it’s sardonic.
Diana was 19. Your nasty vicious attack on her is just reminiscent of the total failure of her family too, to be loving and nurturing. Diana was the one the mattered to most of us. They could never stand again after we’d seen her. And were expected to endure adulterers and hypocrites.
@@Kate-lk6tw Yes, Diana was 19 when she got engaged. She may have been immature for her age but she knew which side her bread was buttered on. She knew going into the marriage that Charles’ heart was engaged elsewhere and she went through with the wedding anyway because she wanted to be Princess of Wales so bad she could taste it. Both families in this match were keeping a lot of very nasty secrets from each other because the elders on both sides were determined that this dynastic marriage go forward. Charles and the royal family were hiding the fact that Charles never really intended to be faithful; meanwhile the Spencer family was hiding Diana’s mental instability. The match was doomed from the off. Both sides played a part to each other to get what they wanted, and then they couldn’t live with the terms of what they had done. Charles certainly was an adulterous hypocrite…. So was Diana. She retaliated for Camila by sleeping with a dozen men, most of whom were married. To punish Charles, she threw herself down the stairs at Sandringham while she was pregnant with William. It wasn’t an actual suicide attempt but she could’ve killed the baby. On another occasion when she was in her 30s, she shoved her stepmother Raine down the stairs at Althorp. I’d say that qualifies as a “vicious attack”. Diana was done wrong by, but she got her own back, and her children suffered the collateral damage. Saint Diana was a myth she created with the aid of the press.